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Surgicalcric
02-26-2004, 23:28
In light of a rising number of military vehicle accidents being incurred in the WOT and subsequent number of service members injured and in some cases killed an idea was posed to me that it may be an idea to go over some of the protocols and civilian Fire/EMS related skill sets as they pertain directly to MVA’s.

Some of the items covered would include, but not be limited to: windshield survey and initial manpower considerations, scene safety, vehicle stabilization, HAZMAT considerations, patient extrication and immobilization, MOI and injuries common to various types of accidents, on scene care, stabilization and transportation considerations of patients involved in motor-vehicle accidents.

I would be more than happy to cover this if there are those of you who would be interested in discussing it. I understand this is primarily a SF forum and the likelihood of an 18-D responding to MVA’s is not great but I thought I would throw it out there.

James D

NousDefionsDoc
02-26-2004, 23:31
Absolutely. Good idea Crip!

Sacamuelas
02-26-2004, 23:38
Good idea surgicalcric!!

Ready here. I say skip the civilian HAZMAT part though..

Sacamuelas
02-27-2004, 00:15
Originally posted by Surgicalcric
I would be more than happy to cover this if there are those of you who would be interested in discussing it. I understand this is primarily a SF forum and the likelihood of an 18-D responding to MVA’s is not great but I thought I would throw it out there.
James D

http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/1059556/posts

That should good enough reason for anyone on this board to understand why it is important to review MVA evaluation/treatments. It won't always be the 18D who is available to treat... it may very well be a team member who has to treat the 18D. Obviously, it can and will happen. RIP Sergeant Wood.

I am sure you have everyone's attention. You should anyway IMO.

shadowflyer
02-27-2004, 10:17
I would love to discuss it as this will be coming up in my next quarter of Medic school.

Eagle5US
02-27-2004, 10:24
And without getting TOO overboard, try to keep in mind what the crews may or may not have in their vehicles pending the scenario involved...
Most first on scene bubbas aren't going to be able to grab the dehydrated spine board out of their glove box with the inflatable head blocks and the springloaded traction splint.
If you put the scenarios in the war time setting...keep in mind what YOU THINK the soldiers there may also have available, security, what caused the accident (landmine, IED, ambush) and some possible associated injuries.
The best of anything is usually the basics...you're on!!!

Eagle

Surgicalcric
02-27-2004, 10:35
Sir:

I was just going to cover the basic MVA hazards, MOI, and considerations.

I thought I would stay away from alot of the treatment modality as I dont have the tactical experience nor a working knowledge of equipment often found on the battlefield.

I will get started on it this afternoon.

Eagle5US
02-27-2004, 10:42
Originally posted by Surgicalcric
Sir:

I was just going to cover the basic MVA hazards, MOI, and considerations.

I thought I would stay away from alot of the treatment modality as I dont have the tactical experience nor a working knowledge of equipment often found on the battlefield.

I will get started on it this afternoon.
Don't shy away from the thin branch, it may be stronger than you think...give some some thought to a tactical scenario. There are medics in theater who will be able to chime in with some assistance who are driving breakneck speeds all the time. Use them as a resource.
Start basics...goooooood
stay basics...baaaaaaadddd

Give it a shot...couldn't hurt, and we'll all learn something.

Eagle