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The Reaper

04-28-2005, 19:00

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,154969,00.html

Akbar Sentenced to Death for Grenade Attack
Thursday, April 28, 2005

FORT BRAGG, N.C. — A military jury sentenced Sergeant Hasan Akbar (search) to death for the 2003 murders of two officers in a grenade attack at an Army camp in Kuwait.

The 15-person jury deliberated seven hours after hearing a barely audible and unsworn statement from Akbar, who said he was sorry.

The same jury took just two-and-a-half hours to convict him of two counts of premeditated murder and three counts of attempted premeditated murder.

The sentence will be the subject of an automatic appeal. If Akbar is executed, it would be by lethal injection.

Akbar gave no visible sign of outward emotion.

After the sentence was announced, Military Police cuffed Akbar's hands and shackled his legs and took him from the courtroom. Then judge called jury back in and told them they couldn't discuss anything that went on during deliberations.

Doc

04-28-2005, 19:06

Does anyone know how long it will take before he's executed?

I know the right answer is too long, just wondering if our esteemed counselors might give an informed answer.

Doc

brewmonkey

04-28-2005, 19:18

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article.php?scid=32&did=988

No one has been executed since 1961 but the death penalty has only been re-instated since 83.

Looks like we will have a new visitor in town.

Edit- Akbar will make #8 on death row. I do not know how long the first one has been there so I don't think we can guesstimate the current time frame. I would think with President Bush in the White House they would be speeding these things up though...:D

The Reaper

04-28-2005, 19:22

The last execution at the USDB was in 1961.

In 1983, a military appeals court ruled the military death penalty unconstitutional because of sentencing guidelines didn't require a finding of "aggravating circumstances." As a result, the seven inmates then on Leavenworth's Death Row had their sentences commuted to life imprisonment.

In 2001, there were six inmates on the USDB Death Row.

The Death Row inmates there can appeal through both military and civilian court systems.

With no executions conducted since 1961, they might get to Akbar by 2028 or so, but odds are that he will never be put to death.

TR

jasonglh

04-28-2005, 20:10

I think I read in one article that the cases are automatically appealed?

SOGvet

04-28-2005, 20:43

As much as I'd like to see them execute the worthless POS, 40-50 years living in a 6' x 10' room is punishment enough for me.

I'd never be able to deal with it.

CSB

04-28-2005, 20:53

Appeals are automatic, beginning with semi-administrative (the convening authority, CG, XVIII Corps), up through Court of Military Appeals, etc., then jumping to Supreme Court of the United States.

10 - 15 years is a reasonable estimate.

CSB

04-28-2005, 21:02

By the way, notice the "unsworn" statement. He could have taken the stand and testified like any other witness, but instead he elected to make an "unsworn" statement.
The Difference: While an unsworn statement is an authorized means of presenting information to the sentencing authority, the accused cannot be cross-examined on it by the prosecution. He stands up, says what he wants to say, and gets to sit down. Of course, the prosecution is permitted to rebut any factual assertions made by the accused in his unsworn statement, but unless the trial counsel has a waiting room full of every possible rebuttal witness standing by in the waiting room, "facts" often go uncontested.
The military judge then informs the court members that they may consider the unsworn statement, but when assigning it weight -- if any -- they should consider the fact that it is unsworn.
If he had taken the oath and testified like a real soldier, his statement would have had the same weight as any other witness, but then he would be cross-examined by the prosecution.

The Reaper

04-28-2005, 21:09

Good to see you here, CSB.

TR

drawbreaker

05-16-2005, 14:56

I just got back to Ft Leavenworth after 4 months of re-class and Airborne training at Ft Benning. The research I've done (I used to work on the USDB side of the House and have a lot of frineds that are SHU Guards) says that this guy is granted one hour per week for exercise, but other than that, since he is a Death Sentence Inmate in the Special Housing Unit, he gets nothing EXCEPT appeal time. A few guys that were there that night in Kuwait work in the USDB now and have been either ordered to new duties or put on different schedules where they cannot have any interaction with him.
So far as anybody is concerned here, this waste of of life is already dead.

NousDefionsDoc

05-16-2005, 15:12

Pete

08-28-2014, 04:01

Appeal scheduled for Hasan Akbar, soldier convicted of murder at Fort Bragg

http://www.fayobserver.com/military/appeal-scheduled-for-hasan-akbar-soldier-convicted-of-murder-at/article_84e32115-bfc0-5523-b244-76b2ee5bf39f.html

"A soldier convicted and sentenced to death on Fort Bragg in 2005 will have his appeal heard in a military court later this year.

Hasan Akbar, 43, was sentenced following a 12-day court-martial in which he was found guilty of the March 2003 murders of Army Capt. Christopher Seifert and Air Force Maj. Gregory Stone...."

CSB called it - 9 years almost to the day.

miclo18d

08-28-2014, 05:24

I had totally forgotten about this incident. Thanks for bringing it up TR.

Though I agree with his rear end languishing/suffering in that cell for decades, people are very adaptable to their situations. Many inmates make a prison a microcosm and live comfortably within it. Not to mention how much it costs to house these animals.

I personally would just assume to take them out back of the court house and put a bullet in the back of their skull. No worrying about wrong dosages or if the contacts are on his head well enough or if he has had enough appeals, etc.

50 rds of 9mm ---> ~$15 ---> $15/50 ---> $0.30
Payment for the salaried bailiff (let's say like an hours pay at 40k/yr) ---> $20
Cleaning crew ---> $18/hr (median)

We are in for about $38.30.
Maybe more for disposal, etc.

cat in the hat

08-28-2014, 08:36

how about they keep him locked up until next time POTUS wants to make a prisoner swap?

Guymullins

08-28-2014, 13:02

how about they keep him locked up until next time POTUS wants to make a prisoner swap?

Talking about the POTUS, any military execution must be signed off by him after a review by the military high command. A Notice of Execution is then signed by the Secretary of the Army. This document is read out just before the execution takes place. All Military executions are now by lethal injection, with the possible exception of those carried out in the field.

Pete

11-19-2014, 05:44

Soldier condemned in 2005 officer killings in Kuwait makes appeal to save life

http://www.fayobserver.com/military/soldier-condemned-in-officer-killings-in-kuwait-makes-appeal-to/article_cd2ca60d-cd1c-56a3-889b-03afa4d06cb7.html

"A former U.S. soldier sentenced to death for killing two fellow soldiers and injuring 14 others in an attack in Kuwait is pinning his hopes of staying alive on an argument jurors should have never seen his diary.

Attorneys for 43-year-old Hasan K. Akbar argued on Tuesday that the one-time sergeant's writings, which include details of how he converted to radical Islam, were so inflammatory, that without the proper context, jurors were most likely to focus on the most damaging parts while considering whether to impose a death sentence......"

Truth Hurts.

UWOA (RIP)

11-19-2014, 08:19

This is one of the times that I feel death by injection is the preferred method. In this case, however, the lethal dose should be combined with pig's blood, and the asshat informed of the mixture ... so he knows he won't be going to meet his virgins ....

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(1VB)compforce

11-19-2014, 08:41

Attorneys for 43-year-old Hasan K. Akbar argued on Tuesday that the one-time sergeant's writings, which include details of how he converted to radical Islam, were so inflammatory, that without the proper context, jurors were most likely to focus on the most damaging parts while considering whether to impose a death sentence......"

Truth Hurts.

I don't give a damn what he wrote or whether he converted to islam. He was a soldier that betrayed his fellow soldiers' trust, threw grenades into a tent, fired his weapon into the crowd, injured 14 soldiers and killed two.

Take everything else including religon out of the picture completely and he still deserves to die.

bushmaster11

11-20-2014, 16:45

NF_NYC

11-20-2014, 18:25

Not subject, but related. Maybe I was slow but I could not find it.

There was an SF NCO who was from Egypt turned out to be mole for Muslem extremists. I heard one or two articles, but seemed to drop out of all news cycles.

What was the final outcome? Anybody know?

J R sends
DOL

I think you're talking about Ali Mohamed. I remember reading about him on Legacy of Ashes: The History of the C.I.A. (http://www.amazon.com/Legacy-Ashes-The-History-CIA/dp/0307389006) It's shocking to find out how easily spies and terrorists infiltrate our government. Another great example (off-topic because it's not related to Muslim extremists) is Ana Montes. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/feature/wp/2013/04/18/ana-montes-did-much-harm-spying-for-cuba-chances-are-you-havent-heard-of-her/)

frostfire

11-21-2014, 22:29

I think you're talking about Ali Mohamed. I remember reading about him on Legacy of Ashes: The History of the C.I.A. (http://www.amazon.com/Legacy-Ashes-The-History-CIA/dp/0307389006) It's shocking to find out how easily spies and terrorists infiltrate our government. Another great example (off-topic because it's not related to Muslim extremists) is Ana Montes. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/feature/wp/2013/04/18/ana-montes-did-much-harm-spying-for-cuba-chances-are-you-havent-heard-of-her/)

I would strongly recommend reading Legacy of Ashes with other literature on the same topic i.e. Ghost Wars, Center of the Storm, etc. You can tell even from the title the book is unapologetically biased against the agency.

Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - Mark Twain

Also:
https://www.cia.gov/news-information/press-releases-statements/press-release-archive-2007/legacy-of-ashes.html
https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/csi-publications/csi-studies/studies/vol51no3/legacy-of-ashes-the-history-of-cia.html

NF_NYC

11-21-2014, 23:33

I would strongly recommend reading Legacy of Ashes with other literature on the same topic i.e. Ghost Wars, Center of the Storm, etc. You can tell even from the title the book is unapologetically biased against the agency.

Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - Mark Twain

Also:
https://www.cia.gov/news-information/press-releases-statements/press-release-archive-2007/legacy-of-ashes.html
https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/csi-publications/csi-studies/studies/vol51no3/legacy-of-ashes-the-history-of-cia.html

Oh yeah, I definitely realized that 1/4 through the book. It's why I didn't buy the author's FBI book. From the previews it looked like an anti-Hoover reading. Not to mention the CIA totally ripped the book (as you linked).

I'll read other CIA history books eventually. I'm really fascinated by the beginning of the Cold War.

T-Rock

04-19-2015, 18:16

. Not subject, but related. Maybe I was slow but I could not find it.

There was an SF NCO who was from Egypt turned out to be mole for Muslem extremists. I heard one or two articles, but seemed to drop out of all news cycles.

What was the final outcome? Anybody know?

J R sends
DOL

According to retired FBI agent Ali Soufan, as of 2011, Ali Mohammed is still awaiting sentencing.

How he, an agent of Al Qaeda who answered directly to Bin Laden, became an agent for the CIA, an informant for the FBI, and a Sergeant who enlisted in the US Army, who taught middle eastern culture at the JFK special warfare center, simply blows my mind, as to how that all happened...

Here are some interesting links regarding Ali Abdul Saoud Mohamed:

In the brief video, his ideology seems to be perfectly congruent with the ideology of ISIS. (Ref. an Islamic State, Caliphate, Dar al-Harb, Dar al-Islam, etc.)
> http://youtu.be/V-GzTtF_2ck

Interesting documentary > http://youtu.be/faj6v4A6A4o

Interesting timeline > http://www.historycommons.org/timeline.jsp?complete_911_timeline_possible_moles_ or_informants=aliMohamed&timeline=complete_911_timeline

Another interesting timeline: http://www.peterlance.com/triple_cross_pb_timeline_2009.pdf

SF_BHT

04-19-2015, 18:54

According to retired FBI agent Ali Soufan, as of 2011, Ali Mohammed is still awaiting sentencing.

How he, an agent of Al Qaeda who answered directly to Bin Laden, became an agent for the CIA, an informant for the FBI, and a Sergeant who enlisted in the US Army, who taught middle eastern culture at the JFK special warfare center, simply blows my mind, as to how that all happened...

Here are some interesting links regarding Ali Abdul Saoud Mohamed:

In the brief video, his ideology seems to be perfectly congruent with the ideology of ISIS. (Ref. an Islamic State, Caliphate, Dar al-Harb, Dar al-Islam, etc.)
> http://youtu.be/V-GzTtF_2ck

Interesting documentary > http://youtu.be/faj6v4A6A4o

Interesting timeline > http://www.historycommons.org/timeline.jsp?complete_911_timeline_possible_moles_ or_informants=aliMohamed&timeline=complete_911_timeline

Another interesting timeline: http://www.peterlance.com/triple_cross_pb_timeline_2009.pdf

While in 5th SFG he taught our team classes. I guess they are still milking him for info...... I hope....

Pete

08-21-2015, 07:54

Military court upholds death sentence in 2003 ‘fragging’ case

http://www.sacbee.com/community/yolo/article31644701.html

"The nation’s highest military court has affirmed the conviction and death sentence for a University of California, Davis, graduate who admitted killing two fellow U.S. soldiers at the start of the Iraq War.

In a closely split decision, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Armed Forces rejected claims by Los Angeles native Hasan K. Akbar that his original defense team was ineffective. Akbar argued at trial that he was mentally ill when he killed two and wounded 14 in the March 2003 attack in Kuwait...."