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NousDefionsDoc
04-05-2005, 19:25
If you could own any weapon from history, what would it be?
For me:
1. The pistol used to assassinate Jorge Eliécer Gaitán
2. The rifle used to put Checito down
3. The rifle used to put Camilo Torres Restrepo down
4. The gun Castro gave to Allende which he then used to kill himself
5. The gun that gets UBL
Any jian used in an assassination.
If you could own any weapon from history, what would it be?
5. The gun that gets UBL
hmmm....when i was active, i would have liked to have had the gun that might have killed me...
the gun that gets UBL is not yet a weapon from history, but i guess admins have certain privileges.... :cool:
a Ferguson Rifle from the Revolutionary War era...
the rifle my g-g-g-g grandfather carried at King's Mountain...
the rifle my g-g-g grandfather carried during the War of 1812...
the M1 my dad carried in Korea...
and the Gatling gun that Custer wanted at the Little Big Horn...heck, any Gatling gun...
and a GAU 8...any GAU 8...for personal protection... :D
Jack Moroney (RIP)
04-05-2005, 19:44
The M-1911 that jammed when a sorry assed troop tried to shoot me. Got to be a lucky charm. :D
Jack Moroney
NousDefionsDoc
04-05-2005, 19:46
the gun that gets UBL is not yet a weapon from history, but i guess admins have certain privileges.
Roger:
Avatar changes, title changes, sig line changes, shot records... :p
You KNOW what I meant!
NousDefionsDoc
04-05-2005, 19:47
The M-1911 that jammed when a sorry assed troop tried to shoot me. Got to be a lucky charm. :D
Jack Moroney
Whoever has it should give it to you mounted on a plaque with a gold horseshoe and a rabbit's foot.
Roger:
Avatar changes, title changes, sig line changes, shot records... You KNOW what I meant!
yeah, i know what you meant...i'm just appallled that you wouldn't want the sword that beheaded Mary, Queen of Scots or Charles the First... ;)
NousDefionsDoc
04-05-2005, 20:00
I have a Harsey AF Fighter - what would I want with any other blade? :lifter :)
I have a Harsey AF Fighter - what would I want with any other blade?
personally, not a knife fighter...the only blade i want is one to shave with...
you list is interesting, though...i take it you are aware of the type and caliber of the weapons on your list...
NousDefionsDoc
04-05-2005, 20:07
Not all of them. I know where at least one of them is though and if they ever leave the case unguarded long enough... ;)
I believe Che was put down with a M1 Carbine.
It wouldn't surprise me if Torres Restrepo was as well.
Gaitán was shot twice with a 7.65 caliber pistol
What I have seen on Allende is AK 47
I believe Che was put down with a M1 Carbine.
It wouldn't surprise me if Torres Restrepo was as well.
you suspect that 8th Group may have had a hand in both, i take it...?
there is a definate 7th/8th Group bias to the list...
NousDefionsDoc
04-05-2005, 20:18
you suspect that 8th Group may have had a hand in both, i take it...?
there is a definate 7th/8th Group bias to the list...
Just my AO. 8th Group may have trained the soldier that got Torres Restrepo. We know they had to do with Checito.
We know they had to do with Checito.
i've known several guys who were in the AOR when Che passed into the next life...i've met several hundred, it seems, who were on the A-team that was in the neighborhood when the deed was done....largest A-team in history, i guess...
Peregrino
04-05-2005, 23:16
yeah, i know what you meant...i'm just appallled that you wouldn't want the sword that beheaded Mary, Queen of Scots or Charles the First... ;)
Mary Queen of Scots didn't rate a sword. The English didn't want it becoming a "revered" icon. They used an ordinary axe that promptly went back to chopping wood. Not sure about Charles though. :munchin
Mary Queen of Scots didn't rate a sword. The English didn't want it becoming a "revered" icon. They used an ordinary axe that promptly went back to chopping wood. Not sure about Charles though. :munchin
i seem to recollect you are right...i believe Charles went by the axe as well...Henry the VIII seemed to permit his ex-wives the honor of a sword, though...
NousDefionsDoc
04-06-2005, 06:21
i've known several guys who were in the AOR when Che passed into the next life...i've met several hundred, it seems, who were on the A-team that was in the neighborhood when the deed was done....largest A-team in history, i guess...LOL - The largest A Team in 7th Group history was the one at the Pacora Bridge during Just Cause. A/1/7 had one heavy Team there and I have met all 2,000 of them. :)
rubberneck
04-06-2005, 08:35
The spear of Longinus.
soulsedition
04-06-2005, 08:39
I'd like the Antique kidney dialisis (sp) machine that finally fails on UBL.. I'd have it chromed.
LOL - The largest A Team in 7th Group history was the one at the Pacora Bridge during Just Cause. A/1/7 had one heavy Team there and I have met all 2,000 of them. :)
Reminds me of the amount of guys on the balcony at Princes Gate in 1980, one former SAS veteran estimated it to be over 15000...
I think the McMillan Tac .50 that made the shot, is still in the Recce Wpn Vault. I'd like that.
The pistol, that Hitler used to kill himself.
Some might take offense to this one, I intend none. The rifle that took out JFK. It is historically significant.
An MP5, that was used at Princes Gate.
And since someone has already got dibs, on the weapon that takes Usama out. Then I want one of the brass casings. Or a piece of the Laser Guided Munition that does the deed.
Something from Entebbe would be nice too, or one of the pins from a flashbang used when GSG9, did the plane at Mogadishu.
aricbcool
04-06-2005, 15:02
The musket that fired the "shot heard round the world" from the American Revolution.
more than that...
The katana carried by Miyamoto Musashi.
JAGeorgia
04-06-2005, 17:07
1. The saber and Remington revolver my gggrandfather carried in the Kansas 13 Volunteer Cavelry in the CW before being captured by Gen. Stand Waite and held as POW at Camp Ford.
2. The first rifle carried to guard the Tomb of the Unknow.
3. Billy Dixon's Sharps 45-90
4. With respect to this forum, greatness occasionally transcends service branch. Any weapon used by GySgt. Carlos Nathaniel Hathcock III (RIP).
5. Alvin York rifle.
brownapple
04-06-2005, 19:24
The Enola Gay :)
aricbcool
04-06-2005, 22:41
The Enola Gay :)
Nice.
NousDefionsDoc
04-06-2005, 23:07
The spear of Longinus.
I wish I had said that.
The knife Abraham was going to use to kill his son.
(Since we are going way back :o )
knife (http://gallery.euroweb.hu/art/r/rembran/painting/biblic3/abraham.jpg)
Smokin Joe
04-07-2005, 01:42
St. Michael's Sword
And this one
The katana carried by Miyamoto Musashi.
The Enola Gay
it's the PRP for you...i ain't carryin' the ammo...
Leozinho
04-07-2005, 20:45
4. The gun Castro gave to Allende which he then used to kill himself
This one. Or rather the one he was carrying when he died, since I don't think for a minute that he killed himself. The weapon is said to have been an AK with a plate on the stock bearing the inscription To my good friend Salvador Allende, from Fidel Castro.
I've been in the courtyard of La Moneda, but didn't get to see the spot where he supposedly died.
NousDefionsDoc
04-07-2005, 21:17
His BG said he KIAd himself. I don't know why he would need to lie now and with all the other cliams out there. History Channel actually has a pretty good special on the whole thing. They showed a picture of the plate I believe.
Leozinho
04-07-2005, 23:07
I'm partly basing my belief on what should be the number 1 rule of a golpe - Be sure to kill - not exile, not jail - the sitting ruler. It's to easy for the former leader to build support and come back.
Venezuela violated this rule not too long ago, and we saw what happened. Fujimori left before rule no. 1 could be completed, and now he's making noises about coming back.
The corrollary is for sitting rulers to have no mercy with would be putschists. Somoza was famous for eliminating potential rivals. (Of course, he ultimately fell victim to Sandinistas that made sure to follow rule no. 1.)
Carlos Andres Perez in Venezuela failed to head this rule, and made Chavez famous by giving him a microphone and putting him on live TV after Chavez's coup failed. Chavez was supposed to only ask the remaining coup plotters to give up, but he made an impassioned speech vowing to fight another day and his political career was launched. CAP couldn't have known what an orator Chavez would prove to be. ) But I digress.
It's hard to know what happened with Allende since so many of the people with Allende that day were killed or disappeared. I think that Pinochet has said his intention with the bombardment of the palace was to prompt Allende to committ suicide, which seems too convenient. If he killed himself, it only means he beat Pinochet to it.
Personally I'd like:
Wild Bills 36 navy's
Billy the Kids Colt double action
Whatever the hell Wyatt Earp had(since historians say there was never a buntline special)
And a gun John Wayne owned. That would be cool.
If you cant tell I really like old colts. Only guns I like better than my usp.
If you could own any weapon from history, what would it be?
For me:
1. The pistol used to assassinate Jorge Eliécer Gaitán
2. The rifle used to put Checito down
3. The rifle used to put Camilo Torres Restrepo down
4. The gun Castro gave to Allende which he then used to kill himself
5. The gun that gets UBL
Who are these people? UBL is the only one I've ever heard of. The must all be from an insignificant area :D
My weapons would be a tommy gun that was jumped on normandy.
and a .45 luger (worth like a million dollars)
If you could own any weapon from history, what would it be?
For me:
1. The pistol used to assassinate Jorge Eliécer Gaitán
2. The rifle used to put Checito down
3. The rifle used to put Camilo Torres Restrepo down
4. The gun Castro gave to Allende which he then used to kill himself
5. The gun that gets UBL
From your list, number 3.
TitratetoEffect
04-10-2005, 18:52
The pistol that was used to shoot Archduke Ferdinand...not in my AO but a pretty significant firearm in history.
Phil
i guess you could add the Sten used to kill Rudolph Heydrich, although in the end, it was the horsehair cushioning in the seat of his staff car that got him...the ice pick (or axe) that was used to kill Trotsky...Lizzy Borden's hatchet... :D
elmntskater1588
04-11-2005, 18:43
Oj's Knife, Because any one who could get out of that deserves a pat on the back.
Oj's Knife, Because any one who could get out of that deserves a pat on the back.
the only purpose for a pat on the back would be to make sure he was centered over the trap door of a gallows... :mad:
Spartan359
04-11-2005, 21:06
1. Any sword used by the Spartans at the battle of Thermopile.
2. The pistol used by John Wilkes Booth to kill Lincoln.
3. The CAR-15 used by "Mad Dog" Shiver in Vietnam.
4. The Sherman my Grandfather used in Korea.
Ambush Master
04-11-2005, 21:47
#1 My Second CAR-15, it saved my life on NUMEROUS occasions !!
#2 My First Car-15, it also saved my life on several occasions !!
#3 The Browning Hi-Power that I carried for that whole tour 1970/1971 (revered for the same reasons mentioned above .) !!
Manstein
04-12-2005, 08:31
Simo Häyhä's Mosin Nagant M28 rifle and his Suomi K31 SMG.
542 confirmed kills in a period of 100 days. Widely regarded by historians as the greatest sniper ever, although that is up for arguement. His record is pretty impressive considering he didnt use a scope on his rifle, instead opting for the iron sights.
"Mr. Häyhä stated that he used the Mosin Nagant M28 rifle as his "sniping" rifle. This was indeed a standard issue rifle with iron sights, which is somewhat amazing as many of his targets were engaged at 400 yards or more. He had been given a Swedish Mauser equipped with a scope but he preferred the M28 to the scoped rifle . (Note: It has been reported that the Swede Mauser was given to Mr. Häyhä in February of 1940. I did not have time to confirm this but will try and find out if this is true in May 2001 when I return to Finland.) Simo Häyhä told us there were many reasons he liked the M28 over the scoped Mauser. One was that the M28 was more suited to his size of 160cm. He also stated that the scoped rifle forced him to raise his head a bit more than he liked, and this added profile might have given a Red Army sharpshooter too good of a target. He also made the point that he had always used iron sights and was used to them. Lastly iron sights were not prone to breakage or fogging which was a real worry in the snow and ice of Finland during the Winter War. "
http://www.mosinnagant.net/finland/simohayha.asp
Bravo1-3
04-12-2005, 14:22
The shotgun that Kurt Cobain killed himself with -- So I could mount it on a plaque for its part in making the world a better place.
One of the 50's from Richard Bong's P-38 Lightning.
Spartan359
04-12-2005, 21:46
Hey Ambush Master, what happened to your first CAR-15? If you don't mind me asking. :cool:
Detonics
04-13-2005, 00:25
I'd have to pick between:
Teddy Roosevelt's L.D. Nimschke engraved Colt SAA
A Parker Invincible SxS shotgun
The "Dukes" 1892 Winchester
The shotgun that Kurt Cobain killed himself with -- So I could mount it on a plaque for its part in making the world a better place.
unfortunately, it was not a murder-suicide situation...he left behind not only his so-called music, but his crack whore wife...
CPTAUSRET
04-13-2005, 10:03
yeah, i know what you meant...i'm just appallled that you wouldn't want the sword that beheaded Mary, Queen of Scots or Charles the First... ;)
Since we are quibbling in a funny lighthearted way :D.
I thought an axe was used to behead 'Mary Queen of Scots', and it took him 3 tries if memory serves correctly.
Sorry, I just finished reading the whole thread, this has already been mentioned.
Terry
AM's: CAR-15's, M34's, M33's, V-40's, Knife, and his Browning HP. Toby's RPG too. :)
Ambush Master
04-13-2005, 18:41
Hey Ambush Master, what happened to your first CAR-15? If you don't mind me asking. :cool:
It took an AK round through the Mag-well and pinned my finger in the trigger guard !!! I had to sit down in the middle of the fire-fight and pry it off !!! I destroyed it and went to my Hi-Power.
Spartan359
04-13-2005, 21:17
Better to go through the mag-well than you. :D
Sorry, I just finished reading the whole thread, this has already been mentioned.
yeah, my chops have already been busted for a faulty memory...i do recall three whacks, now that you mention it...and it seems she went to her execution wearing a wig...the lengths some folks go to for fashion...
CPTAUSRET
04-13-2005, 22:47
yeah, my chops have already been busted for a faulty memory...i do recall three whacks, now that you mention it...and it seems she went to her execution wearing a wig...the lengths some folks go to for fashion...
And she had hidden a small dog from her captors, it was hiding beneath her skirts, and only left it's hiding place upon her death.
You guys sure you're not talking about Paris Hilton? ;)
Cincinnatus
04-14-2005, 09:15
Actually, one account I read of her execution had the wig thing as a last defiant gesture. The executioner grabs her hair to show the crowd her head and gets... a handful of wig! Don't know if there's anything to this, though.
CPTAUSRET
04-14-2005, 09:45
Actually, one account I read of her execution had the wig thing as a last defiant gesture. The executioner grabs her hair to show the crowd her head and gets... a handful of wig! Don't know if there's anything to this, though.
There wasn't really a crowd, just the council who were carrying out the execution, and of the course the executioner who must have been nervous as hell.
I have also read the same story re the wig.
Terry
just to derail this a bit further, there is rather gruesome, but interesting, account of execution by drawing and quartering in "Discipline and Punish: The Birth of Prison," by Michel Foucault. The executioners weren't properly prepared (unsharpened axes, poor coordination with the horses, etc.) and this made the execution much more excruciating and difficult than necessary.
The Reaper
04-15-2005, 11:27
The executioners weren't properly prepared (unsharpened axes, poor coordination with the horses, etc.) and this made the execution much more excruciating and difficult than necessary.
For them or the victim?
TR
I'd imagine for both. You can actually read part of the account at amazon.com, as it is the first chapter. I certainly wouldn't want to (literally) cut apart a live human being.
The Reaper
04-15-2005, 11:54
I'd imagine for both. You can actually read part of the account at amazon.com, as it is the first chapter. I certainly wouldn't want to (literally) cut apart a live human being.
That would depend on who it was.
TR
Roguish Lawyer
04-15-2005, 11:56
That would depend on who it was.
TR
LMAO -- nice!
mojaveman
12-21-2010, 12:19
I'd like to have one of the M1893 Spanish Mausers that were being fired from the top of San Juan Hill at Teddy Rosevelt and his Rough Riders while they were at the bottom of it.
Their experience with the new rifles were enough that the U.S. government adopted the M1903 Springfield and discontinued usining the .30-40 Krag-Jorgensen.
There are a few in museums and in private collections but worth a whole lot of money.
rubberneck
12-21-2010, 14:37
This thread has been dead for five years but since someone else brought it back to life I'd take Patton's pearl handled Colt Peacemakers.
Reading rubbernecks and mojave mans posts. One mentions the M93 Mauser and then Patton's 45s. Reminded me of a picture of Patton in Sicily. The good general described the M-1 Garand as "The Greatest Battle Implement Ever Devised". But he would ride in his jeep with both the M-1 and a K98k Mauser.
As mojave man says, the M-93 Mauser prompted the U.S. to adopt the 1903 Springfield. It also caused Springfield and the U.S. Government to have to pay to Mauserwerke about $200,00.00 for patent rights for building the 03 on a Mauser type action.
An original ASP with a story.
http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg/usa/asp-e.html
The M1911 Sgt. Alvin York used to shoot the five German soldiers "like turkeys, back to front..."
If you could own any weapon from history, what would it be?
Imaginary - Anduril, Flame of the West, the sword of the King of Gondor.
Real - the pistol COL Joshua Chamberlain wielded in the 20th Maine Volunteer Infantry Regiment's defense of Little Round Top on 2 July 1863.
Richard :munchin
ReefBlue
12-21-2010, 18:20
I've been wanting to build an Oswald rifle (scope is tough to find), so I'll go with the real thing instead.
This thread has been dead for five years but since someone else brought it back to life I'd take Patton's pearl handled Colt Peacemakers.
FWIW at least from the movie,
[about his pistol grips]
Patton: "They're ivory. Only a pimp from a cheap New Orleans whorehouse would carry a pearl-handled pistol."
I would choose " The Drying Pole."
ProdigalSon
12-21-2010, 20:33
Real - the pistol COL Joshua Chamberlain wielded in the 20th Maine Volunteer Infantry Regiment's defense of Little Round Top on 2 July 1863.
Funny you mention that, I just found out who owns it is an old Jr. High friend who collects CW artifacts. Price tag a couple years ago was $5k give or take. As old collectors get out, with no interest from family members, they simply sell items off for what they can get. Appraised price is $20k, give or take a few thousand.
Maybe I can get him to post a couple pics if your interested.
dr. mabuse
12-21-2010, 20:50
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Any one of the four Model 1895 ten-barrel Gatling Guns in .30 made by Colt's Arms Company. These proved very effective supporting the advance of American forces at the Battle of San Juan Hill, where three of the Gatlings with swivel mountings were used with great success.
or...
Clyde Barrow, used a shortened BAR (stolen from the National Guard) during his spree in the 1930s. I'd like that too......jd
doctom54
12-21-2010, 22:54
And York's 1903.
Alvin York actually used a 1917 Enfield but I agree it is one I would like (I have a 1917 Enfield just not Yorks')
rubberneck
12-21-2010, 23:05
Imaginary - Anduril, Flame of the West, the sword of the King of Gondor.
If were going there than I'll take the one ring to rule them all.:D
If were going there than I'll take the one ring to rule them all.:D
That wins....can I change my choices?
....jd
dr. mabuse
12-21-2010, 23:41
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Ret10Echo
12-22-2010, 05:55
Berdan Sharpshooter's rifles:
Colt Model 1855 Revolving rifle
1859 .52 Sharps (dual trigger)
I'd also like to have the rifle with the bullet through the scope belonging to the Viet hamburger Carlos beat to the punch.
dadof18x'er
12-22-2010, 07:47
1. the sling David used on Goliath.
2. a KARL mortar.
mojaveman
12-22-2010, 11:23
The spear that pierced Jesus on the cross
One of the daggers used to kill Julius Ceaser
Dude, I'm a little worried about you. :p
dr. mabuse
12-22-2010, 11:25
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If you could own any weapon from history, what would it be?
Kinda funny to read back through this thread and see how many respondents actually answered the original question - the terms 'any weapon' and 'it' being singular. :rolleyes:
And so it goes...
Richard :munchin
Kinda funny to read back through this thread and see how many respondents actually answered the original question - the terms 'any weapon' and 'it' being singular. :rolleyes:
And so it goes...
Richard :munchin
Weapons are like potato chips.
Weapons are like potato chips.
Greasy? ;)
Richard :munchin
Irishsquid
12-22-2010, 13:40
The Enola Gay :)
The Bocks Car. Apparently, my Grandpa was part of the ground crew.
Barbarian
12-22-2010, 14:14
The J. M. Browning M1911 prototype that was delivered to the Springfied Armory. Bet that thing still runs.
Historical: vasily zaitsev's m91/30
Sentimental: My Grandfather's m1 or my Uncles m16a1
My Grandfather's Thompson (5th Rangers lead the way!)
My Fathers's M16.
A sword from Marathon.
CombatMuffin
12-23-2010, 12:19
The gun, whatever it may be, that took Pablo Escobar's life...
If I had to choose a more recognizable historical weapon, it would be Tizona, El Cid's sword.
rocknrolla
12-23-2010, 12:53
Clyde Barrow's B.A.R.
cat in the hat
12-23-2010, 13:32
Hatchet Jacks bar rifle
cause it's a genuine Hawken, and you can't go no better than that.
If you could own any weapon from history, what would it be?
1. The hot chick in Terminator III, who kicked Arnolds ass.
2. The clubs used by the Monkey/Ape types in 2001 Space Odyssey.
3. Goliath's sword used by David in his reign as king.
4. Plasma rifle in a 40 Watt range.
and...
5. Ghostbuster's "Don't cross the streams,...it would be bad, ...thanks for the safety tip."
Dozer523
12-23-2010, 23:10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DYx33x0_ns
mark46th
12-28-2010, 10:25
Sentimental value- The sabre my Great-great grandfather , Sgt Garrett Clay Selby(Yankee Cavalry), was carrying when he was KIA at Gettysburg.
Cinematic- One of Clint Eastwood's hoglegs from Josey Wales...
Historical- Wyatt Earp's Buntline Special.
Rob_0811
12-28-2010, 14:20
Ernst Rudel's Stuka
mojaveman
12-28-2010, 22:48
Ernst Rudel's Stuka
Major Erich Hartmanns Messerschmitt ME-109G6
Complete with black tulip painted on the nose.
Peteyboy
06-07-2011, 19:06
Damn all the good ones are taken, since people have already took Hitler's suicide weapon and the daggers that killed Cesar. I guess I might have to go with......... The rock David used to kill Goliath. and any weapon my Great Uncle used in Vietnam for sentimental purposes.
LOL - The largest A Team in 7th Group history was the one at the Pacora Bridge during Just Cause. A/1/7 had one heavy Team there and I have met all 2,000 of them. :)
HaHa!
There would have been 2001 there had I not been in a DAMN cast from a class II sprain from practicing fast roping all day long prior to the main event. Didn't slow me down after the first few days though. :p
I would like to own John Wilkes Booth's Gun.
blue02hd
06-07-2011, 19:40
Death Star
ZonieDiver
06-07-2011, 23:28
Death Star
:D
Peteyboy
06-08-2011, 15:23
:D
DAMN REBELS!:mad: