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Roguish Lawyer
01-21-2025, 13:45
Did all y'all see that there executive order restoring the name of Mount McKinley? Anyone hear anything about restoring names of bases like Benning and Bragg? :munchin
mojaveman
01-21-2025, 14:31
If he can rename the Gulf of Mexico why not? Spent time at both. They'll always be Benny and Bragg to me. :)
I wish. I think the Confederate stigma is too powerful…. pretty much synonymous with Nazis. 😢
I wish. I think the Confederate stigma is too powerful…. pretty much synonymous with Nazis. 😢
That's a pretty harsh comparison, not one that I would draw. I have ancestors buried in the South and at Antietam and I have a great deal of respect for Confederate soldiers. I have absolutely no respect for the Nazis. The renaming of those bases and the destruction of Confederate memorials was no more than knee jerk pandering by guilt ridden idiots. YMMV
Let me clarify… proud Southerner here . My point is that point of view is held by many who wanted the name changes and confederate statues removed.
Badger52
01-21-2025, 20:40
Once he's confirmed, I'll wager the new SECDEF will have a view on that.
I’m pretty sure the incoming SECDEF has said that he intends to reverse back to the original names of these bases. I just wonder what the actual cost (I’ve heard it was upwards of $20M) was to rename them in the first place? They were renamed by the woke trying to remake history in an attempt to make themselves relevant (didn’t work in my opinion). Hopefully it doesn’t become a trend with each new administration to rename back and forth.
BTW, they will always be Bragg and Benning to me.
DOL
The Confederate Generals names have been removed from the Ranger memorial at Fort Benning. Their brick spaces have been replace with just blank bricks.
WarriorDiplomat
01-22-2025, 11:26
Let me clarify… proud Southerner here . My point is that point of view is held by many who wanted the name changes and confederate statues removed.
Non Southerner here and I disagree, 99% of people did not know or care about the base names of those their are a tiny minority who are activist scum who are Contras just because their is a small minority who understands the history and naming the rest are fence sitters/reactionaries who just go along to get along. The real issue is the politicization of racial subjects the Democrats choose to use to divide us We don't know for sure what they will do now since it seems their radical narratives have run out of steam for now
Badger52
01-22-2025, 19:16
Non Southerner here and I disagree, 99% of people did not know or care about the base names of those their are a tiny minority who are activist scum who are Contras just because their is a small minority who understands the history and naming the rest are fence sitters/reactionaries who just go along to get along. The real issue is the politicization of racial subjects the Democrats choose to use to divide us We don't know for sure what they will do now since it seems their radical narratives have run out of steam for now
I'll buy that for a dollar. :cool:
[Beethoven's Fifth] "Nobody caaared. Nobody caaaaared."
Daughter & I have mutual 'schoolhouse' & she retired there outside Augusta. So when this horsehockey started I sent her on a mission to the PX to snatch a bunch of Fort Gordon logo'd merch.
bblhead672
01-23-2025, 09:18
Apparently I never gave the base names much thought - I didn't realize they were named after Confederate Generals until the left started their hissy fits.
If it costs $20mil to change them all back, no big deal. That's a pittance of Pentagon's daily wasted money.
Any father knows, sometimes you just have to spank the kid to let the other’s know you’re ready, willing, and able. Re-name the bases because they did it out of spite and need to be spanked over it.
Get rid of the chicks in combat arms because that’s the right thing to do. Revoke the tab orders of any / all tabs issued to the split-tails.
Do it because they need an ass-whopping!
... 99% of people did not know or care about the base names
Not to mention how few people realize that it was actually a bunch of racist democrats at the turn of the last century that DEMANDED that those bases be named after a bunch of failed confederate officers. Those very same states - and the democrats that represented them - were refusing to cooperate with the federal government with regard to ramping up for our involvement in WW1. The concession was to let the racist democrats name a few training bases after their long defeated anti-heroes.
...it seems like democrats have always had the taste for resisiting the federal governmnet when they aren't in charge
...there is a small minority who understands the history and naming the rest are fence sitters/reactionaries who just go along to get along.
Many of THOSE in that same majority still don't realize that they should be outraged at George McClellan STILL having a military base named after him...
...considering his performance during the Civil War was borderline seditious - and that he was fired for intentionally slow rolling any effort at victory - and that after he was fired, he ran against Lincoln on a platform that should he be elected to the Presidency, he would end the war and let the confederate states keep their slaves...
...and Lord knows how many of those same "change the names of military bases" crowd would be willing to talk about good ole Georgie's comments about the smell of billy-goats
...yet, they are somehow A-OK with letting George McClellan's racist legacy endure
The real issue is the politicization of racial subjects the Democrats choose to use to divide us
I'd say the REAL, real issue is that the leftist, Marxist, racist, fascist, totalitarian, seditious democrats zealously push the politicization of ANY subject that will further divide Americans deeply enough to allow the leftist, Marxist, racist, fascist, totalitarian, seditious democrats to seize, expand, consolidate, and retain their power over the lives of otherwise "free" Americans.
If it were up to me (and clearly it isn't) I'd solve the entire problem by naming every single base, camp, fort, post, depot, or station after the city where it was located.
BAM - DONE
Then you eliminate the problem of trying to figure out where in the fuck something is even located...
Bliss, Hood, Martindale, Cavazos, Eisenhower, Sam Houston
...where in the fuck are these places?
For fuck sake, Ft Sam isn't anywhere NEAR Houston.
...but a simple solution would mean there would be nothing for the outrage peddlers to peddle
...no wedge to divide the voters
...no platform for activist politicians to campaign on
Besides, spending 20 million dollars worth of taxpayer dollars every time we fight the battle of ideologies...
...it provides a well needed injection of cash into the local politicians slush fund
...it provides a well needed injection of cash into the local economy
Rinse and Repeat
Any father knows, sometimes you just have to spank the kid to let the other’s know you’re ready, willing, and able. Re-name the bases because they did it out of spite and need to be spanked over it.
Get rid of the chicks in combat arms because that’s the right thing to do. Revoke the tab orders of any / all tabs issued to the split-tails.
Do it because they need an ass-whopping!
AMEN!
Badger52
01-23-2025, 19:40
Any father knows, sometimes you just have to spank the kid to let the other’s know you’re ready, willing, and able. Re-name the bases because they did it out of spite and need to be spanked over it.
Get rid of the chicks in combat arms because that’s the right thing to do. Revoke the tab orders of any / all tabs issued to the split-tails.
Do it because they need an ass-whopping!Doctrine of accelerationism. I'm in.
If it costs $20mil to change them all back, no big deal. That's a pittance of Pentagon's daily wasted money.
I get it, but $20M here and $20M there adds up after awhile and those $M’s could be better used elsewhere in support of the troops I’m sure.
But I like what Box is saying about renaming them after the city they’re in; “Fort Fayettenam” has a nice ring to it! :lifter
“Fort Fayettenam”
You are dating yourself, sir. I know. I remember that term from a long time ago. :D
When I went through Basic at Ft. Polk, we all thought that it was named for President Polk. Ironically, it's now called Ft. Johnson and, unless they have added a "Fort Naming History" in the training, most will think that it's named for one of the President Johnsons, likely LBJ.
bblhead672
01-24-2025, 15:01
When I went through Basic at Ft. Polk, we all thought that it was named for President Polk. Ironically, it's now called Ft. Johnson and, unless they have added a "Fort Naming History" in the training, most will think that it's named for one of the President Johnsons, likely LBJ.
(Irrelevant to thread) My father was stationed at Ft. Polk when he met my mother.
Fortunately for me he survived his journey across N. Africa, Sicily, Italy and S. France.
^^^^^^^^^ I know that you do not need me to inform you of this… Your dad‘s a hero!
Roguish Lawyer
01-26-2025, 13:54
...it provides a well needed injection of cash into the local politicians slush fund
Y'ain't no dimwit, are ya? LOL, I see hwat ya did over yonder
Roguish Lawyer
01-28-2025, 08:09
https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1883911512726655255?s=46&t=9hgPHvEDyEy_KGZNcnMEWQ
This is awesome
Changing the name doesn't change the place - "a rose by any other name" - and all that jazz...
In fact, I'll go as far as to say that I totally support these programs - but I'm just not going to celebrate them. If I am discussing 'Infantry Stuff' then simply refer to it (CORRECTLY) as the MCoE. If it is a discussion about parachutes or airdrop, I reference (CORRECTLY) the Quartermaster School. I have also taken to using "on the installation" in most of my correspondence - especially when I am referring to 'Installation Range Control'
The single fact about the entire charade - is that when racist democrats DEMANDING these places be named after confederates - the US government accommodated them in the spirit of reconciliation and unification. The original naming of these installations was NOT done - as many of these ignorant ill-informed activists would try to make people believe - was NOT done to be divisive. It is however, a terrible shame that there are so many activists that live a life devoid of any meaning but that which is derived from stirring up shit over things that simply don't matter to sane people.
That is all.
Roguish Lawyer
02-10-2025, 23:33
https://mol.im/a/14383115
https://mol.im/a/14383115
So, in the SecDef's renaming of Bragg back to Bragg, but not the original Bragg, but a different Bragg ... Is that:
1) Cowardly
2) A Compromise
3) A masterful Trolling
4) Something else
Oh and by the way, Google maps updated the name of the Gulf ...
Forever and always, Amen
Looks as if Pete agrees with you ... Or you agree with Pete.
But which Bragg are you talking about ??? :confused:
Maybe it’s my overly conspiratorial mindset, but isn’t it strange that the ONLY base the lib-tards didn’t rename for someone else was Bragg? It’s not like there aren’t plenty of MOH recipients from either SF or the 82nd they could have picked from? Just seems kinda…. Well…. Back to watching the Billionaires continue their RICO investigation of the USG…..
The Reaper
02-11-2025, 22:05
Well, Air Freaking Borne!
Tip of the hat to POTUS and company.
Rumor is that SecDef did PT in Germany this morning with 1/10 SFG(A).
TR
Airbornelawyer
02-12-2025, 07:50
So, in the SecDef's renaming of Bragg back to Bragg, but not the original Bragg, but a different Bragg ... Is that:
1) Cowardly
2) A Compromise
3) A masterful Trolling
4) Something else
I suppose it's a combination of 1-3, but I'm inclined more toward 1 than 3. It still says the hatemongers of the woke left, who stand for no principle but preserving their own outrage and attendant sense of superiority, get to define how we as a country address our history.
1stindoor
02-12-2025, 08:34
Well, Air Freaking Borne!
Tip of the hat to POTUS and company.
Rumor is that SecDef did PT in Germany this morning with 1/10 SFG(A).
TR
Verified. Which drove the "haters" into a frenzy. It's like Christmas everyday.
Airbornelawyer
03-08-2025, 18:05
As of March 3, 2025, Benning is Benning again, although now named after WW1 DSC recipient CPL Fred G. Benning.
As of March 3, 2025, Benning is Benning again, although now named after WW1 DSC recipient CPL Fred G. Benning.
Now if we can get the weaker-sex out of combat arms, rescind the tabs issued to the split-tails, and get rid of the rest of the woke bull-shit.
I suppose it's a combination of 1-3, but I'm inclined more toward 1 than 3. It still says the hatemongers of the woke left, who stand for no principle but preserving their own outrage and attendant sense of superiority, get to define how we as a country address our history.
Well it was passed into law to change the names by Congress, it cannot "just be changed". So they just did an okey doke round the corner and named it after a different Bragg, so as not run foul of the 2021 law but still a middle finger to the left. Otherwise they would have to wait on congress to rescind, but congress moves like pond water. So this was the most expeditious route. It's almost like they are taking into consideration 2nd and 3rd order effects. The game has changed, the moves are more eloquent, but the style is unmistakable.
Well it was passed into law to change the names by Congress, it cannot "just be changed". So they just did an okey doke round the corner and named it after a different Bragg, so as not run foul of the 2021 law but still a middle finger to the left. Otherwise they would have to wait on congress to rescind, but congress moves like pond water. So this was the most expeditious route. It's almost like they are taking into consideration 2nd and 3rd order effects. The game has changed, the moves are more eloquent, but the style is unmistakable.
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