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How the hell did we end up here? I don't think this will end well for America.
The socialist democratic party is determine to end constitutional order.
The police are neutered, free speech is socially unacceptable, law school has become a training ground for legal subversion, there no doubt the silicon valley elites and all the alphabet agency and MSM are monitoring SM, and certainly this site. All this in addition too, a proxy war, and a presidential agenda, run by a former administration which has open our boarders for yrs, making us vulnerable to enough saboteurs to ignite this smoldering mess.
Tic, tic,.
How? Why, it is standard fare for Banana Republics and other forms of sham democracy.
I'm surprised it hasn't happened sooner. Future politicians will need to learn bolthole techniques from deposed leaders of central African/American shitholes.
bblhead672
03-18-2023, 16:37
How the hell did we end up here?
Slowly, then all at once.
Tic, tic,.
Indeed. In the precipice hangs our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.
Gents,
I’ll throw this out there.
BLUF: The average a-ME-rican person could care less about any of this. They’re fed, housed, medicated, and entertained (and better than anyone else on the planet to include the “wealthy” in the rest of the world).
The media, dimocraps, repub-lik-cants, and average bureaucrat are scared to death of a “leader” of any kind. They HATE the military because of it. They HATE big business because of it. They believe that “Policy” (the root word of politics) can “Save us all from _______ problem”. The previously mentioned commie scum HATE leaders because they themselves could not lead a dead horse to the ground (and by extension leaders could, if properly motivated, wipe their worthless parasitic asses from the face of the earth).
They, the losers that are attacking the former POTUS, have NO chance of “winning” anything at all. They are completely incapable of “winning” because they can’t even define it. The average a-ME-rican CAN define “win”. They do so EVERY F’N TIME their favorite sports-ball team plays on Sunday! They KNOW their politicians are complete life losers and want nothing NOT A DAMN THING to do with ANY of them.
Do NOT underestimate the Average Joe’s ability to ignore the children in the district of clowns to the point of making them as irrelevant as a noisy kid at Walmart.
I’m gonna go make sure the builder of my new house is putting the shower-heads in the right places to keep the Mrs. Happy.
WE WON, they CAN’T WIN! Don’t let yourselves get down because some ass-hat’s kid is whining about not getting a toy or being made to eat their fucking peas!
Trapper John
03-19-2023, 10:05
Indeed. In the precipice hangs our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.
Agree with you but, with the following caveat: my honor is and always will be in my control.
So to the neo-fascists that may be covertly peeking in on us - be vewy, vewy caweful! :D
GratefulCitizen
03-19-2023, 12:38
Maybe the potential arrest rumors are true, maybe they aren’t.
Either way, Trump stole a march.
He just stole the news cycle and gave himself a platform.
He just forced everyone to take a side and lock themselves in for future political battles.
Even inaction, whether it be from potential friends or foes, pins them into a position.
Meanwhile, Trump is free to maneuver.
Trump has the initiative.
We’ll see how effective he is in exploiting it.
(1VB)compforce
03-19-2023, 13:41
Maybe the potential arrest rumors are true, maybe they aren’t.
Either way, Trump stole a march.
He just stole the news cycle and gave himself a platform.
He just forced everyone to take a side and lock themselves in for future political battles.
Even inaction, whether it be from potential friends or foes, pins them into a position.
Meanwhile, Trump is free to maneuver.
Trump has the initiative.
We’ll see how effective he is in exploiting it.
And then, if and when he goes to trial, "I preemptively pardoned myself while I was in office"... The "crime" predates his presidency.
Roguish Lawyer
03-19-2023, 13:47
Do NOT underestimate the Average Joe’s ability to ignore the children in the district of clowns to the point of making them as irrelevant as a noisy kid at Walmart.
I'm sorry, but I couldn't disagree more. We are on a very dangerous path and it is going to get harder and harder to do something about it because the schools, the press, and Hollywood are controlled by Marxists who are focused intently on indoctrination. The regulatory agencies are out of control doing un-American things without Congressional authorization.
We are finally going to leave California, which is a precursor to what will happen everywhere else. Not only is Atlas Shrugged/1984 happening here, but we are losing the ability to defend what is left of the country against foreign threats.
I think we are fucked. And you FBI guys spying on American citizens can go fuck yourselves for being part of the problem. Pardon my French.
I understand the angst. I agree with the superficial indicators. I see all the same things you see.
That said, it’s not that bad. Yes, the USG is a completely corrupt and worthless pile of donkey dung. The average state government is barely capable of anything besides harassing their citizens at the local DMV while doling out “free” tax dollars to non-producing leaches.
But! But! But! NO ONE GIVES A SHIT! Go to the local Walmart and look around! NO ONE CARES! Not. One. Bit.
Do you know why?
They are FAT! They have so much food available 24/7 that they will NEVER be hungry.
They have so much clean water they literally SHIT in it! NO WHERE ELESE ON THE PLANET is that the case! NO. WHERE. ELSE.
In spite of the completely worthless sacks of shit that inhabit our “governing bodies” we are living better and longer lives every year.
Yes, I said in spite of. Not because of!
The “because of” is the real powers in the USA…… Big Business. You know. Guys who build buildings. Buy for $1 and sell for $2. The guys who invent shit. The guys who fix shit when it breaks. And at the head of those organizations are actual Leaders.
Those Leaders will NOT, NOT NOW, NOT EVER allow some worthless shit-bag “policy maker” to interfere with the bottom line.
Back to my YouTube videos with the family pets……
Roguish Lawyer
03-19-2023, 15:11
Those Leaders will NOT, NOT NOW, NOT EVER allow some worthless shit-bag “policy maker” to interfere with the bottom line.
I work with a lot of those people on a regular basis, and I hate to tell you that it's not true. They are caving in -- look at all of the DEI BS we see everywhere. It is hitting the bottom line. It sure is in my business.
As soon as I can locate Atlantis, I am moving there. Who is John Galt? In the meantime, we are going to settle for Tennessee.
I work with a lot of those people on a regular basis, and I hate to tell you that it's not true. They are caving in -- look at all of the DEI BS we see everywhere. It is hitting the bottom line. It sure is in my business.
As soon as I can locate Atlantis, I am moving there. Who is John Galt? In the meantime, we are going to settle for Tennessee.
This proves my point. You, and your businesses are LEAVING the state where the clown-show has decided “we’re in charge”. That shit won’t last long. Temporary “hits to profit” are not the same as “permanently effecting” the bottom line.
The simple fact that the USA is really 50ea separate Countries negates the bigger issues found in the more-worthless places.
All of these things are cyclical and are to be expected.
I am playing from memory here, but I think that the US has seen ~7 different political shifts over our ~245 years? There was only 1 that resulted in a full blown shooting match, but all were kinda stressful. The last one was around the 1930’s during the Depression.
We are due.
We are NOT done.
We, the USA, are INVINCIBLE!
Any and all reasons you can give for the fall of _______ civilization do NOT apply to us. Geography. Demography. The fact we are a “settler” nation. Our distinct form of government and decentralization of power. And, if all else fails, the right to kill a tyrant.
There are exactly 2 defining characteristics of a true American:
1. An American will give the shirt off his back to ANYONE who deserves it
2. An American will tell anyone who doesn’t to FUCK OFF
Badger52
03-20-2023, 04:04
As soon as I can locate Atlantis, I am moving there. Who is John Galt? In the meantime, we are going to settle for Tennessee.I wish you continued resolve in a liberating act. (I left in '69) You can be John Galt where you plant your feet. Carry a smile.
:)
I wouldn't worry about the banana republic repercussions if it wasn't for the fact that there are almost ZERO republicans that are capable of communicating that arresting your political foes can go both ways...
...because most of them are crooked to begin with
Their solution is to eliminate the ones that are most likely to lift up the rug to show how much dirt has been shoveled under it.
"Justice"
You keep using that word...
mark46th
03-20-2023, 11:31
I agree, Box. If Trump gets elected again, I hope he goes after everyone from both parties who let this happen and goes after these morons with a vengeance...
I agree, Box. If Trump gets elected again, I hope he goes after everyone from both parties who let this happen and goes after these morons with a vengeance...
The sad truth is that should Trump get elected again, the republicans in the senate will interfere and block his agenda again and once the midterm ballot box stuffing is completed, the democrats will take the house again and they will impeach him again while the same republicans enable and assist the democratic party at derailing any meaningful republicans gains again
I agree, Box. If Trump gets elected again, I hope he goes after everyone from both parties who let this happen and goes after these morons with a vengeance...
Trump's ego is his own worst enemy. I think that is the biggest obstacle to him getting re-elected. He and Hillary are tied in my opinion for screwing up the worst during any election campaign .
For all of his twitter rants and blustering during speeches, he didn't clean house like he should have when it because obvious that he needed to and it hurt him.
The incompetent politicians (yeah, I know, redundant) are terrified of Leaders.
Trump was / is a business leader. Results at the cost of all else are what matter to a business man. Profits are paramount.
As for Desantis, he was a military leader and is a Governor of a state. For those jobs, the results have to be balanced between “the accomplishment of my mission and the welfare of my people”.
Both of these guys scare the hell out of the policy makers who couldn’t lead a dead horse to the ground. They BOTH prove just how worthless the bureaucracy is at actually accomplishing anything besides the ever observable “self licking ice cream cone”…….
My prediction, Trump gets the Republican Nomination, and the eventual Dim-O-Crap candidate (Brandon won’t be it) will win by a narrow margin.
The Left WANTS to run against DJT and this is one of the ways that he get’s the nod….
The incompetent politicians (yeah, I know, redundant) are terrified of Leaders...
I respectfully disagree.
The only thing politicians are afraid of is losing power.
They are not afraid of Donald Trump nor are they afraid of Ron Desantis. They hold their detractors in contempt; they are too distracted by hatred and contempt to fear their opponents.
It's why Joe Biden threatened Ukraine to drop an investigation that could implicate his son while all other democrats impeached Trump because he pushed for Ukraine to broadly investigate corruption in government.
They don't want to indict Trump out of some nonspecific fear that he will expose them - they want to destroy him because they hate him. They hate his voters. They hate their opponents but they fear NOBODY.
If leftists were afraid - they would stop doing what they have boldly and proudly been doing for generations.
It's why they have 1% riots in central park - it's why they overthrow police stations in Oregon and violently control entire sections of an American city for weeks on end. Is why they say "no one is above the law and then refuse to prosecute crimes against American citizens
It is republican politicians that are afraid - not democrats. It is the republicans that cower in fear anytime they are challenged on the public stage. It is republicans that attack their own political party with their shameless virtue signaling and pandering to Democrats that will NEVER support them.
Most Democrats are fearless and bold.
Most Republicans are cowardly and timid.
...it may not be a popular position, but its the objective truth that I see every time I turn on the news
Rinse and repeat.
Badger52
03-20-2023, 20:13
The sad truth is that should Trump get elected again, the republicans in the senate will interfere and block his agenda again...[/I]Yup. They, and their committees, are the top cover for the additional branch of government.
bblhead672
03-21-2023, 15:44
It is republican politicians that are afraid - not democrats. It is the republicans that cower in fear anytime they are challenged on the public stage. It is republicans that attack their own political party with their shameless virtue signaling and pandering to Democrats that will NEVER support them.
Most Democrats are fearless and bold.
Most Republicans are cowardly and timid.
...it may not be a popular position, but its the objective truth that I see every time I turn on the news
Rinse and repeat.
I agree 100%. Spineless cowards.
bblhead672
03-21-2023, 15:46
Read several places the last few days warning people not to go out and protest if Trump is arrested. The left is salivating at the prospect of throwing more Trump supporters into the gulag.
Many are also saying f**k protesting for Trump...look what that got the last group of people who did so on 1/6. Trump hasn't lifted a finger nor spent a dime helping those political prisoners.
Read several places the last few days warning people not to go out and protest if Trump is arrested. The left is salivating at the prospect of throwing more Trump supporters into the gulag.
Many are also saying f**k protesting for Trump...look what that got the last group of people who did so on 1/6. Trump hasn't lifted a finger nor spent a dime helping those political prisoners.
Not only that, but Trump is performing the same routine he was performing in the run up to 2016 and appears he hasn't learned a thing over the past 6-7 years. It's like he was never President.
Badger52
03-22-2023, 05:12
With the slitherer ("I will do ANYthing to stay out of jail") Cohen as Bragg's lead witness, they're in a weak position unless the likely leftist grand jury is in a coma. His former attorney, with waiver of attorney/client privilege in hand, completely roasted Cohen.
Doesn't matter; this is the regime of "the process itself IS the punishment."
With the slitherer ("I will do ANYthing to stay out of jail") Cohen as Bragg's lead witness, they're in a weak position unless the likely leftist grand jury is in a coma. His former attorney, with waiver of attorney/client privilege in hand, completely roasted Cohen.
Doesn't matter; this is the regime of "the process itself IS the punishment."
"Jury"
...it doesn't mean what it used to mean.
tom kelly
03-22-2023, 16:29
The sad truth is that should Trump get elected again, the republicans in the senate will interfere and block his agenda again and once the midterm ballot box stuffing is completed, the democrats will take the house again and they will impeach him again while the same republicans enable and assist the democratic party at derailing any meaningful republicans gains again
Will Brain Dead Joe Biden Run again ? Why Not, Democrat John Fetterman got elected Senator, anyone seen him recently ? Also, when Trump was sworn in last time as POTUS, Jim Comey the FBI Director sent agents into the WH...Trump did eventually fire him, but did not make him feel the pain for his transgressions...IMHO....Nothing will happen...
Will Brain Dead Joe Biden Run again ? Why Not, Democrat John Fetterman got elected Senator, anyone seen him recently ? Also, when Trump was sworn in last time as POTUS, Jim Comey the FBI Director sent agents into the WH...Trump did eventually fire him, but did not make him feel the pain for his transgressions...IMHO....Nothing will happen...
The only thing that would have made a difference (IMHO) would have been for the Trump DOJ to go after the guy like they were a pack of wild hyenas going after a baby zebra with hip dysplasia for admittedly leaking presidential notes to the press with the stated intent of triggering an investigation. The Trump DOJ should have absolutely and ruthlessly eviscerated that guy on the public stage - "nobody is above the law" and all that jazz.
Dont arrest him.
Dont jail him.
Fucking destroy him - scorched earth - him - his family - his friends - his neighbors - even fuck over the kids he traded baseball cards with when he was in elementary school...
That man should have spent the next three years of his life pimping out his wife and sucking dicks in a run down bowling alley parking lot to pay for the legal bills to defend himself against the government. Anyone within free wi-fi signal internet range of that man should have gotten the message "fuck around and find out" - but putting an "R" after your name when you are in office makes you afraid of the dark. Instead, that guy and his fellow conspirators literally got away with treason - and because of that, the NEXT "R" is going to get the exact same treatment because democrats are savages and republican politicians are just greedy corrupt cowards - they just happen to sell a better flavor of kool aid than the democrats do.
Shit - if the democrats would drop their hatred of guns and drag queen story hour - I'd start voting for them - its not like there is much difference beyond that.
and that makes me sad
Badger52
03-24-2023, 04:18
Dont arrest him.
Dont jail him.
Fucking destroy him - scorched earth - him - his family - his friends - his neighbors - even fuck over the kids he traded baseball cards with when he was in elementary school...
That man should have spent the next three years of his life pimping out his wife and sucking dicks in a run down bowling alley parking lot to pay for the legal bills to defend himself against the government. Anyone within free wi-fi signal internet range of that man should have gotten the message "fuck around and find out" - but putting an "R" after your name when you are in office makes you afraid of the dark. Instead, that guy and his fellow conspirators literally got away with treason - and because of that, the NEXT "R" is going to get the exact same treatment because democrats are savages and republican politicians are just greedy corrupt cowards - they just happen to sell a better flavor of kool aid than the democrats do.
"pour encourager les autres"
Even Barney Fife knew.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kamala-harris-declines-comment-trump-indictment-zambia-president-weighs-in
However, Hichilema took the question and attempted to explain his feelings on the matter from the perspective of the Zambian government.
"The indictment of President Trump — what does that mean to the rule of law? Let's remove names from your question," Hichilema told the reporter. "Let's put what we decided we would do to govern ourselves in an orderly manner. [We] passed our constitutions — bedrock law. Then, secondary laws, other regulations create a platform or framework around which we agreed either as Americans or as Zambians to govern ourselves and so to live within those confines."
"And when there's transgression against law, it does not matter who is involved. I think that is what the rule of law means. This is universal," he continued.
Hichilema went on to compare the Trump indictment and partisan tensions to corruption in his own nation."And here, Vice President, we have a scenario now when we fight against corruption which has taken away resources from children and the sick — sometimes names are thrown into it and perceptions are created that are totally inappropriate," he said. "Because transgressions against the law, if you take what belongs to the public, you have offended the law and the name does not matter."
President Hichilema will be very disappointed with his meeting POTUS.
Badger52
03-31-2023, 19:14
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kamala-harris-declines-comment-trump-indictment-zambia-president-weighs-in
President Hichilema will be very disappointed with his meeting POTUS.
He embarrassed her really bad; saw that. He was articulate, understood what he was about and not in awe at all at being visited by the Queen of Word Salad.
The President of El Salvador called and told little Tony Blinken not to ever lecture his country again.
Badger52
He embarrassed her really bad; saw that. He was articulate, understood what he was about and not in awe at all at being visited by the Queen of Word Salad.
The President of El Salvador called and told little Tony Blinken not to ever lecture his country again.
Agreed.
But this situation, as it progresses into arrest and the long social media trial will increase the divide. There is no doubt in my mind, that there are those who lack the mental and emotional discipline, will act out in a violent manner, attacking their fellow Americans for whom they support, rather than those who have wrought this destruction upon us.
When that happens it will cascade. My hope is that we remain calm in the turmoil, focusing the aperture on those deserving of a true Biblical reckoning.
GratefulCitizen
04-01-2023, 01:46
The current political tensions would present an ideal situation for a false flag.
Such an event could then be used to justify extreme actions to protect against another “insurrection”…
The current political tensions would present an ideal situation for a false flag.
Such an event could then be used to justify extreme actions to protect against another “insurrection”…
Agreed, but hope not :[
Badger52
Agreed.
But this situation, as it progresses into arrest and the long social media trial will increase the divide. There is no doubt in my mind, that there are those who lack the mental and emotional discipline, will act out in a violent manner, attacking their fellow Americans for whom they support, rather than those who have wrought this destruction upon us.
When that happens it will cascade. My hope is that we remain calm in the turmoil, focusing the aperture on those deserving of a true Biblical reckoning.
It will remain calm. “Cooler heads” are prevailing. The opening day of Major League Baseball was Thursday. The NBA Playoffs start on the 15th of April (so about 2-weeks). And let’s not forget NASCAR is in full swing throughout the summer.
The “aggrieved class” may make some noise, the “morally righteous” may jump up and down on TV, and the clowns in the capital will do all they can to ensure they have a job come Christmas, but the ~85-90% of a-ME-rikans are more worried about “Owe My Balls” and “Brawndo the Thirst Mutilator” (it’s got more molecules and is what plants crave).
No. One. Cares.
GOOD!
WE. ARE. FAT.
WE. ARE. SAFE.
WE. ARE. FREE.
The morons who are televising this mess are only trying to up their viewership to sell more shit.
If you are tired of seeing this crap, stop fucking watching it and start watching something productive.
I’ve been watching videos of a guy on a power mulcher mowing crazy yards for old people, old episodes of hoarders, and every now and then, I’ll watch a gun video……
Happy Saturday
Badger52
04-01-2023, 06:24
The current political tensions would present an ideal situation for a false flag.
Such an event could then be used to justify extreme actions to protect against another “insurrection”…If they've thought about it at all they're probably glad that the national Capitol isn't physically located more in the center of the country. Logistically, getting to it would be much easier for the peasants, the better to throw a tailgate party with the proper accoutrements.
I'll wager there's already a DHS threat assessment for 19 April.
Trapper John
04-03-2023, 09:26
We are on a very dangerous path and it is going to get harder and harder to do something about it because the schools, the press, and Hollywood are controlled by Marxists who are focused intently on indoctrination. The regulatory agencies are out of control doing un-American things without Congressional authorization.
I think we are fucked. And you FBI guys spying on American citizens can go fuck yourselves for being part of the problem. Pardon my French.
You are correct! And confounding the problem is the BRIC alliance designed to unseat the $ as the world's reserve currency. If that happens, we are screwed for generations!
IMHO we are in a multi-front war that has not yet gone kinetic.