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Airbornelawyer
09-08-2022, 15:06
Condolences to our British, Canadian, Australian, New Zealand, Jamaican, etc. members, comrades. colleagues and friends.

Badger52
09-08-2022, 15:09
For many, the only British monarch they've ever known.
Rest in Peace.

Roguish Lawyer
09-08-2022, 15:39
Condolences to our British, Canadian, Australian, New Zealand, Jamaican, etc. members, comrades. colleagues and friends.

I prefer to continue extending the middle finger we raised to the British Crown in 1776, thank you very much. Commie! :D

Airbornelawyer
09-08-2022, 16:02
I prefer to continue extending the middle finger we raised to the British Crown in 1776, thank you very much. Commie! :D
Some of our ancestors raised the middle finger in 1773 at the Boston Tea Party, in 1774 after the Intolerable Acts were passed, and in 1775 at Lexington and Concord. You Johnny-Come-Lately types are always jumping on the bandwagon after it's started rolling.

Anyway, George III was a Hannoverian of entirely German ancestry. Elizabeth II was a Saxe-Coburg-Gotha of mostly English ancestry. Though, technically, Charles III is more German than she was, since Prince Philip was descended from the House of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg.

Roguish Lawyer
09-08-2022, 16:25
Some of our ancestors raised the middle finger in 1773 at the Boston Tea Party, in 1774 after the Intolerable Acts were passed, and in 1775 at Lexington and Concord. You Johnny-Come-Lately types are always jumping on the bandwagon after it's started rolling.

LMAO, guilty as charged!


Anyway, George III was a Hannoverian of entirely German ancestry. Elizabeth II was a Saxe-Coburg-Gotha of mostly English ancestry. Though, technically, Charles III is more German than she was, since Prince Philip was descended from the House of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg.

So you're a racist too, eh? :D:D:D ;)

Airbornelawyer
09-08-2022, 17:44
I am of both German and English ancestry, so I cannot be racist. That's how it works, right?

FWIW, besides English, I have Scottish, Welsh, Irish and Norse ancestry, so I have pretty much the entire British genome covered. By that measure, I am more qualified than Charles III for the throne. I also have some African ancestry, so I am more than willing to settle for being King of the Bahamas.

Roguish Lawyer
09-08-2022, 19:25
I am of both German and English ancestry, so I cannot be racist. That's how it works, right?

FWIW, besides English, I have Scottish, Welsh, Irish and Norse ancestry, so I have pretty much the entire British genome covered. By that measure, I am more qualified than Charles III for the throne. I also have some African ancestry, so I am more than willing to settle for being King of the Bahamas.

:eek:

JJ_BPK
09-09-2022, 06:55
My contrarian thoughts..

She was the longest sitting despot in the last 500 years


She held India and other nations as virtual slave states to this day
She destroyed Irland with an archaic religious mantra based on some fat uncle who liked to kill his wives.
One son is a pedophile
One son had his wife killed while he pound another guy's wife
And her grandson married a hooker.


She has so demeaned the peoples of NI, Scotland, Wales, Antigua and Barbuda, Australia, The Bahamas, Belize, Canada, Grenada, Jamaica, New Zealand, Papua New Guinea, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Solomon Islands, Tuvalu that they think they can't survive without her.

She is one of 40 monarchies that still exist.
The World could do with fewer of these types of people.

My $00.000002
Byte Me
:munchin

Box
09-09-2022, 07:01
One son is a pedophile
...no proof. In fact, according to our own government, there is more proof that Donald Trump may or may not have failed to pay some of his taxes.

One son had his wife killed while he pounded another guy's wife
...bite your tongue. That's the King of England that you are talking about

And her grandson married a hooker.
...shame on you. Slut shaming is so two-thousand-and-late

Golf1echo
09-09-2022, 07:13
Ironic that as the British Crown transitions we have a demented president who thinks he’s king george III…

bblhead672
09-09-2022, 08:23
The WEF King ascends to the British throne (https://2ndsmartestguyintheworld.substack.com/p/the-wef-king-ascends-to-the-british)

With the death of Queen Elizabeth II, humanity, and in particular, western civilization, has lost an absolute giant. She was a remarkable person from a remarkable era. She will be missed. (2SG: she was perhaps most remarkable in her knighting of pedophile necrophiliac Jimmy Savile who had full access to Buckingham Palace, and was rumored to have supplied the queen herself and her associates with young children.)

Her successor, on the other hand, can best be understood as the WEF (World Economic Forum) king. King Charles is truly a king for our times, in the worst possible way imaginable. He is a perfect representation of the western ruling class and its pernicious agenda.

Charles, to put it bluntly, is an anti-human reprobate, who has lived a life of disgrace, hypocrisy, and corruption. But his lifestyle is the least of the issues at hand. Charles is a king who has embraced and promoted the most destructive causes of our times.

I've never understood Americans fascination and fawning over the "royal" family. Guess some people have a deeply ingrained need to be lorded over by their "betters".

Box
09-09-2022, 09:30
I've never understood Americans fascination and fawning over the "royal" family. Guess some people have a deeply ingrained need to be lorded over by their "betters".

For all of human history, people have beaten one another to DEATH with clubs and stones. We've driven bayonets through each others chest. We said "cleared hot" to an airplane that's going to drop a 500 pound bomb on a 32 ounce village because a guy with an RPG fired a rocket at us...
...weeelllll fuck that guy, and his family, and anyone else within a 500 pound blast radius.

Why?
Because men and women want to live free of the tyranny of kings and queens.

We are outraged when they fuck around on their wives.
We are outraged when they call one another racists.
We are outraged when they don't support our causes.
We are outraged when they cavort with pedophiles.
We are heartbroken when they drop dead.

Don't forget - this is a lifestyle of compassionate loving leaders that have someone else break their fucking shoes in because royalty can't be bothered with the possibility that their feet may get sore.

A 96 year old lady that has perfected the art of insulting people through her choice of hats, broaches, and dress colors, dies from natural causes, and suddenly we are all supposed to behave like some omnipresent benevolent spirit has been cut down in their prime by a godless tragedy...
Otherwise, I am sympathetic to the loss of a loved one - a friend, a mother, a grandma...


Pfft...
...has anyone checked on the any of the American children that were orphaned just this past this weekend due to drug abuse and domestic violence?

No?
Oh well.
God save the King and all that jazz.

mojaveman
09-09-2022, 13:48
I've never understood Americans fascination and fawning over the "royal" family.

I've thought that too but then realized we don't have a royal family. The only group that might come close would be the Kennedy's, but they weren't very regal. :p

Like a few others have already said, the British were second to none when it came to exploiting the rest of the people in the world.

She was a class act for seven decades though.

Anyway, rest in peace Queen Elizabeth.

JimP
09-09-2022, 14:38
Hmmmmm, in light of Box's post, I think I'll make myself a Bologna sandwich this weekend. I hope my beer is really cold when i get home tonight....

Someone say something about royals...?? My GAS meter ain't budged.

Time moves on. Ain't none of us busting out of this place alive.

Swoop
09-10-2022, 06:01
1776…nuff said


DOL

PSM
09-10-2022, 12:25
I've never understood Americans fascination and fawning over the "royal" family. Guess some people have a deeply ingrained need to be lorded over by their "betters".

Americans line up in Anaheim and spend hundreds of dollars (for locals) and thousands of dollars (for inlanders) just to visit the House of the Mouse.

GratefulCitizen
09-10-2022, 14:01
The woke crowd should be happy about what’s happened in the U.K.

A woman became the new prime minister.
A man became the new queen.

Badger52
09-10-2022, 14:36
The woke crowd should be happy about what’s happened in the U.K.

A woman became the new prime minister.
A man became the new queen.:D

JJ_BPK
09-10-2022, 15:13
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A man became the new queen.

:lifter:D:lifter

Badger52
09-10-2022, 16:02
:lifter:D:lifter
Stop it! Milley is jealous and wants to know where he can get one of those sashes.

Surf n Turf
09-10-2022, 17:28
A timely article about Elizabeth, and how she failed her “subjects”, country, and the world, because she just “didn’t try” to “say something” and take a more difficult path.

SnT

Lament For the Hollow Crown

Say what you will about Æthelred. He may not have prevented the Danes from establishing themselves in the British Isles, and ultimately displacing the Anglo-Saxons as Albion’s aristocracy. But at least he tried.

He recognized that this would be a bad thing, and he did what was in his power, as best as he knew how, to prevent it.

It would be unfair to hold Elizabeth II to account for presiding over the dissipation of the empire her pirate queen namesake had first started to build centuries before, for the centrifugal forces at work were so far beyond her control that she’d as well have ordered the tide not to come in

The land Elizabeth II inherited was exhausted from the wars, it is true. However, in most other ways it was a vastly better land than the one that she left behind. Its demographic structure had remained essentially unchanged for thousands of years, with what incursions there were – the Angles, the Saxons, the Danes, the Normans – being cousin peoples whose blood and customs were not so dissimilar. The Church was strong, as was the family; the streets were safe; and the ancient liberties of the Englishman to property, to self-defense, and to speak his mind were honoured by law and custom. The same was true of England’s strong young daughter colonies in Canada, Australia, and New Zealand – while necessarily rougher around the edges than their more settled and genteel motherland, they had immense social capital, their people tough and confident, their institutions well-run and honest.

Elizabeth sat placidly by as, one by one, the ancient rights of Englishmen were stripped from them. No longer may they bear arms, or even defend themselves should they be assaulted or their homes invaded. No longer may they speak their minds, for should they speak too plainly they risk a visit from the police, who may either arrest and charge them with hate speech for saying unflattering things about any of the myriad protected groups, or simply be hassled over ‘non-crime hate incidents’ should their blaspheming not quite cross the deliberately fuzzy legal boundary between that which is permitted and mandatory, and everything else.

I mourn, not the Queen who was, but the Queen who should have been
.
All you had to do, my Queen, was say something. Had you but done that, had you once spoken up for us, it would all have been so very different. It might not have changed things, but we’d have known that you cared.
But it’s too late now.

https://barsoom.substack.com/p/lament-for-the-hollow-crown?utm_source=email

Airbornelawyer
09-13-2022, 15:51
I just saw an image of Elizabeth's children following the Queen's casket yesterday. All were in uniform except Prince Andrew. Apparently, after the Epstein island matter, Andrew not only lost his ceremonial appointments, but also the right to wear the uniform? A bit ironic, since he and King Charles are the only ones of the four to actually have served in the military - Princess Anne's and RM washout Prince Edward's appointments are entirely ceremonial - and Andrew is the only combat veteran of the four.

JJ_BPK
09-14-2022, 05:47
Great article,, BUTT

A timely article about Elizabeth


Not to hi-jak the thread, but we need a quick dump on SUBSTACK and with-in that John Carter and BARSOOM?? (not the John Carter of ER Burroughs)

Thanks

JJ_BPK
09-14-2022, 05:53
I just saw an image of Elizabeth's children following the Queen's casket yesterday. All were in uniform except Prince Andrew. Apparently, after the Epstein island matter, Andrew not only lost his ceremonial appointments, but also the right to wear the uniform? A bit ironic, since he and King Charles are the only ones of the four to actually have served in the military - Princess Anne's and RM washout Prince Edward's appointments are entirely ceremonial - and Andrew is the only combat veteran of the four.

It appears that Queen Chuck has dick-taded that his brother the Pedo can wear his uniform, but his son who married the hooker can't be seen in uniform.

This is a ROYAL ceremony, so protocol overrides any semblance of rationale.:munchin

JJ_BPK
09-14-2022, 09:16
It appears that Queen Chuck has dick-taded that his brother the Pedo can wear his uniform, but his son who married the hooker can't be seen in uniform.

This is a ROYAL ceremony, so protocol overrides any semblance of rationale.:munchin

I stand corrected,,

Andrew did not wear a uniform, but he had all his bling,, as did Harry


FOXNEWS had earlier said Andrew had a special exemption from Chuck? :confused:

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/prince-harry-not-allowed-wear-uniform-queens-vigil-prince-andrew-reportedly-gets-special-approval

Scimitar
09-14-2022, 20:10
I am of both German and English ancestry, so I cannot be racist. That's how it works, right?

FWIW, besides English, I have Scottish, Welsh, Irish and Norse ancestry, so I have pretty much the entire British genome covered. By that measure, I am more qualified than Charles III for the throne. I also have some African ancestry, so I am more than willing to settle for being King of the Bahamas.

Well then - Airborne Lawyer for King. Down with King Charles! :D

JJ_BPK
09-15-2022, 13:24
That look you get when your father gives your brother a 1.2 BILLION UKP (TAX-FREE) hand-me-down estate he got from your Grand Ma,


and you got NOTHING.. :eek::eek::eek:




Prince William just inherited a $1.2 billion estate thanks to a medieval rule
BY Chloe Taylor, September 14, 2022 at 10:16 AM EDT


https://fortune.com/2022/09/14/prince-william-inherits-duchy-of-cornwall-estate-from-king-charles-queen-death/?fbclid=IwAR1pYQmrLgOqxtzpVMs0IPB9sYhgMV8zbnI5JCws hqxeDnb7dGLg0BTp3b4

Badger52
09-15-2022, 15:04
You're killin' me.
That look you get when...you know you have to go back to Hollywood and be "the boss" of your paltry $14M house. Because it's now just "a house" and your brother has a GENUINE . BLOODY . ESTATE. with helipads and deer running around and - running the a/c anytime he wants.
:boohoo

Trapper John
09-18-2022, 11:18
Well, I guess most of you realize that I can take a pummeling and so I'm willing to give voice to some unpopular views: Yeah we separated from the Monarchy in 1776! But let's step back for a moment and recognize that the Monarchy representing the British Empire has existed for nearly 1,000 years. More than any other institution in human history. Advancing Christian values, the sanctity of the individual, teaching governance, introducing economic capitalism around the world and lifting the poor from poverty on every continent are just a few of the accomplishments.

As the longest serving Monarch, Queen Elizabeth II oversaw the "decolonization" of the Empire, once again, largely to the advancement of individual freedoms. To be sure there were colossal failures of the new nation states. But rather than wag our collective fingers at the Monarch for such failures, we would have been well advised to take a lesson and not attempt to democratize other nation states as we have tried in the Middle East for instance.

As a conservative Populist, my political views couldn't be further from those of a monarchist! But when I step back and examine the historical impact of the Monarchy of the British Empire and QEII's role, I am humbled and in my opinion, she truly stood for duty honor and country in the representation of her institution. There is only one other person in my lifetime, that so thoroughly stood for duty, honor, and country in the representation of his institution. Yeah that's right, I just drew a connection between Gen Douglas MacArthur and Queen Elizabeth II.

I am sure they are both resting in God's grace and deservedly so.

Let the pummeling begin. :D

Scimitar
09-18-2022, 16:57
Well, I guess most of you realize that I can take a pummeling and so I'm willing to give voice to some unpopular views: Let the pummeling begin. :D

Well said Trapper - But maybe it's the colonial in me.

It's true, we can so easily suffer from the fallacy of perfection. Yes, we should analyze and learn from our mistakes, and try to avoid them in the future; but let's not fall into the same fault as the "crazy-far-left" is right now, and throw everything out that isn't perfect.

My opinion - She really was the best of us. Rest in peace Ma'am.

S

Badger52
09-19-2022, 05:05
Here's a thoughtful (imo) piece by Neil Oliver, reflecting on the additional meaning of so many mourners travelling & enduring the lines to pay their respects. Pretty good, and he has the Brit creds to with it. Opening paragraphs:

When Winston Churchill lay in state in Westminster Hall, in 1965, journalist Vincent Mulchrone described two rivers running through London, one made of people, dark and silent as the night-time Thames.

Now another river of other people is flowing through an altogether different London, all the way to that same Hall and, this time, the coffin of The Queen. Westminster Hall is still there. Britain is still there. I’ve wondered if it’s a glimpse, at least in part, of the silent majority we hear so much about but seldom see.

It would be wrong to generalise, to imagine we could know the motivations of every person in that long line. But so many people moving as one, in the same direction at the same time surely suggests something shared. My hunch, for what it’s worth, is that many are also grieving the passing of the world they grew up in – a world of long-lived certainties – old certainties that seem to have died too at some point in the past few years.

Full Transcript here. (https://www.gbnews.uk/gb-views/pain-will-not-be-felt-and-endured-by-faceless-masses-but-by-those-individual-people-says-neil-oliver/367706)

bblhead672
09-19-2022, 07:24
Well, I guess most of you realize that I can take a pummeling and so I'm willing to give voice to some unpopular views: Yeah we separated from the Monarchy in 1776! But let's step back for a moment and recognize that the Monarchy representing the British Empire has existed for nearly 1,000 years. More than any other institution in human history. Advancing Christian values, the sanctity of the individual, teaching governance, introducing economic capitalism around the world and lifting the poor from poverty on every continent are just a few of the accomplishments.

As the longest serving Monarch, Queen Elizabeth II oversaw the "decolonization" of the Empire, once again, largely to the advancement of individual freedoms. To be sure there were colossal failures of the new nation states. But rather than wag our collective fingers at the Monarch for such failures, we would have been well advised to take a lesson and not attempt to democratize other nation states as we have tried in the Middle East for instance.

As a conservative Populist, my political views couldn't be further from those of a monarchist! But when I step back and examine the historical impact of the Monarchy of the British Empire and QEII's role, I am humbled and in my opinion, she truly stood for duty honor and country in the representation of her institution. There is only one other person in my lifetime, that so thoroughly stood for duty, honor, and country in the representation of his institution. Yeah that's right, I just drew a connection between Gen Douglas MacArthur and Queen Elizabeth II.

I am sure they are both resting in God's grace and deservedly so.

Let the pummeling begin. :D

Well said.

QEII may be the last of the monarchs who will be remembered for their humanity.

Badger52
09-20-2022, 19:55
Reflecting on a recently read book, War of the Running Dogs (https://www.amazon.com/War-Running-Dogs-Malaya-1948-1960/dp/0304366714), it occurred to me that she was in place for most of the "Malayan Emergency." There was clearly influence midway through (from Whitehall) to insure that things were treated as a civil police matter, and to invest the populace in the outcome while aiding them on the tactical side. (Also, the term "hearts & minds" was already in play by the Brits.) One can reasonably debate what was either relocation of the population to deprive the insurgents, or call it forced internment. Probably some of both because the citizenry didn't like being preyed upon. In the end it worked.

I wonder if she had any influence upon this direction early in her reign simply by virtue of either her nature or the preparation she received, regardless of not being a boy, in terms of affairs of state. It was an approach that turned out to be the right one, was accepted and implemented by those on the ground responsible and, for all its warts, (now) Malaysia didn't fall Communist and remains a federal state.

Lots has transpired in those 70 years.

Box
09-20-2022, 21:09
Brandon really did the uNiteD sTateS proud...
-refused to ride the bus with the lesser world leaders
-showed up late to the funeral
-needed a cue card to put down his thoughts in the condolence book

class act Brandon- keep up the good work