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JJ_BPK
02-26-2022, 06:44
Why??


Is it a guise to sneak in low-yield man-portable nuclear weapons?
Could Putin be thinking of lighting a MOAB to spread the love dist?
Or is he worried the Ukraine's will invoke a "scorched-earth" exit policy to contaminate his ill-gained bounty


signed: confused :confused:





Chernobyl: Radiation spike at nuclear plant seized by Russian forces
By Victoria Gill, Science correspondent, BBC News
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-60528828


Why Russia's capture of Chernobyl might not be the biggest nuclear concern in Ukraine, February 25, 20227:56 PM ET, Wynne Davis, NPR, Instagram Twitter

https://www.npr.org/2022/02/25/1083210202/russia-chernobyl-ukraine

UWOA (RIP)
02-27-2022, 13:46
Today on Meet The Press, Chuck Todd brought up the possibility that Putin might be crazy enoug to use a tac nuke because things are not going well. Of course, no one on his discussion panel had a solutiion or deterrent to Putin going nuclear, even if only tactical. And, since we know that Russia not only has the capability, but also the desire to monitor US response/inclination, Putin has sniffed the option that troubles the West even more then conventional warfare.

So. what is the solution?

Hopefully, the weenies in the head shed come up with the following response: Let the Russians (Putin) know that, just as we were not adverse to supplying the Ukrainians with conventional arms and munitions to counter Putin's invasion, should a tactical nuclear device be employed in Ukraine, double that amount will be supplied to Ukraine to strike a responsive blow inside Russia.

It's a step up in military aid to Ukraine, but necessary only if Putin goes off the deep end and much like the MAD standoff utilized during the Cold War. I'm certain Putin would have second thoughts about the safety of his mountain redoubt if he faced the possibility of a tac nuke knocking on his door.

Just thinking ahead ......

Flagg
02-28-2022, 00:40
Today on Meet The Press, Chuck Todd brought up the possibility that Putin might be crazy enoug to use a tac nuke because things are not going well. Of course, no one on his discussion panel had a solutiion or deterrent to Putin going nuclear, even if only tactical. And, since we know that Russia not only has the capability, but also the desire to monitor US response/inclination, Putin has sniffed the option that troubles the West even more then conventional warfare.

So. what is the solution?

Hopefully, the weenies in the head shed come up with the following response: Let the Russians (Putin) know that, just as we were not adverse to supplying the Ukrainians with conventional arms and munitions to counter Putin's invasion, should a tactical nuclear device be employed in Ukraine, double that amount will be supplied to Ukraine to strike a responsive blow inside Russia.

It's a step up in military aid to Ukraine, but necessary only if Putin goes off the deep end and much like the MAD standoff utilized during the Cold War. I'm certain Putin would have second thoughts about the safety of his mountain redoubt if he faced the possibility of a tac nuke knocking on his door.

Just thinking ahead ......

500 metric tons of fissionable material(20,000 weapon cores) processed into commercial fuel in the Megatons to Megawatts program initiated exactly one year after the Soviet Coup in August 1991.

Ukraine gave up their nukes in 1994 with security guarantees from the US and Russia with the Budapest Accords.

Putin claims the Budapest Accord is invalid as it was with a previous government before thr 2014 Ukraine Revolution.

By that logic, Russia should lose their UN Security Council Veto post 1991 Soviet Coup and Revolution.

Anywho, with Putin’s seeming willingness to do anything/everything, and the less than 100% accountability of enriched material angle, the risk of a dirty bomb or nuclear detonation is greater than zero, if only pretext for a failing Russian effort.

JJ_BPK
02-28-2022, 06:51
By that logic, Russia should lose their UN Security Council Veto post 1991 Soviet Coup and Revolution. YES, 100% AGREED

Anywho, with Putin’s seeming willingness to do anything/everything, and the less than 100% accountability of enriched material angle, the risk of a dirty bomb or nuclear detonation is greater than zero, if only pretext for a failing Russian effort.


Putin is a 69 YO Commie ALMOST.
He is the head of a country that has failed miserably under his guidance, although it has made him a billionaire
He has not created his everlasting mark in the Grand History of Mother Russia
He looks at Biden, Xi Jinping, and other world leaders and knows his time as Grand Poobah is limited at best, purely on age factor.
He doesn't give a shit..


AND,, the world is sitting around pulling their pud, mumbling "we gotta do bad thing to Putin" while doing only enough to keep MSM and Proles content :mad:

Box
02-28-2022, 08:11
The problem is, "doing something" falls nicely into that old trope about the best day for planting a tree was 20 years ago.

The best day to do something about the current situation on Ukraine was 20 years ago - or moreif we are really going to address the root of these problems..
The same will be said about Taiwan in the coming months.

The even worse problem is that everyone knows it and none of them care because short term gains in profit don't mesh well with long term gains in geopolitical strategy. Incrementalism showing that eventually, the straws WILL break that camels back.


...turns out, Patton and MacArthur were BOTH right.

Penn
02-28-2022, 18:42
...turns out, Patton and MacArthur were BOTH right.

The trouble with that recollection is your knowledge and reference was natured by parents who were raised in the Great Depression and then saved civilization 10 years later.

In the interim, between those stark years and now, are three generations that have not felt, witness, or participated or contributed to save and create a more stable world. Today, less .5% enlist, while at least 50% via voting records and party affiliation, harbor a certain destain for a rational and conservative approach to security.

It's madding, there was one time, many years ago were we prayed just to get to dawn, I know that is happening Kiev right now, and there is nothing we can do, but pray for those poor soul unable to defend themselves, because they relied on the word of those who have no honor.