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Colin L. Powell (2021-10-18)
American Hero
“We have lost a remarkable and loving husband, father, grandfather, and a great American,” the family added.
“General Colin L. Powell, former U.S. Secretary of State and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff passed away this morning due to complications from Covid 19. He was fully vaccinated. We want to thank the medical staff at Walter Reed National Medical Center for their caring treatment,” the Powell family said in a statement posted to Facebook.
Quartz_MJC
10-18-2021, 06:49
RIP
rsdengler
10-18-2021, 07:09
So very sad, RIP Sir...
TOMAHAWK9521
10-18-2021, 11:04
Fair Winds, Sir!
He served honorably in the US Army and beyond in public service - for that - RIP.
For his political activities since he became a private citizen - not so much.
So bottom line - Rest In Peace.
He served honorably in the US Army and beyond in public service - for that - RIP.
For his political activities since he became a private citizen - not so much.
So bottom line - Rest In Peace.
My sentiments exactly, RIP GEN... Blue skies..
Along with all the accolades, let's not forget his "Pottery Barn" rule led to 8+ years in Iraq.
RIP.
In defense of Gen. Powell, his quote below. Gen Powell and Casper Weinberg were the only two that proposed the the concept of total force. The "Powell Doctrine".
imho, General Powell was correct in his view, if we are going to war, use the full force of American power. End it as quickly as possible, war of attrition should not be an option.
Powell denies using the term "pottery barn rule", but stated:
It is said that I used the "Pottery Barn rule." I never did it; [Thomas] Friedman did it ... But what I did say ... [is that] once you break it, you are going to own it, and we're going to be responsible for 26 million people standing there looking at us. And it's going to suck up a good 40 to 50 percent of the Army for years. And it's going to take all the oxygen out of the political environment ..."[7]
UWOA (RIP)
10-19-2021, 20:06
I'll always treasure my autographed copy of his book. He did a tremendous job!
RIP, sir!
Penn, I would submit that "But what I did say...[is that] once you break it, you are going to own it, and we're going to be responsible for 26 million people standing there looking at us" is the very crux of the Pottery Barn rule (i.e., you break it, you 'buy' it). I'm of the opinion that there's value in the concept of the punitive expedition--in other words, we go in, we 'break' a bunch of stuff, we leave all that broken stuff behind and tell the people there that we'll come back and break more stuff if they continue to pose a threat.
Penn, I would submit that "But what I did say...[is that] once you break it, you are going to own it, and we're going to be responsible for 26 million people standing there looking at us" is the very crux of the Pottery Barn rule (i.e., you break it, you 'buy' it). I'm of the opinion that there's value in the concept of the punitive expedition--in other words, we go in, we 'break' a bunch of stuff, we leave all that broken stuff behind and tell the people there that we'll come back and break more stuff if they continue to pose a threat.
^^^^^THIS!!!!! This was my biggest gripe about Powell (other than him being a libtard). No, we don't "own it if we break it." You cause us to have to go in there and we break it, burn it down, raze everything, kill the livestock, and plow salt into the earth. You make us come back and the gloves come off.
We achieved our strategic objectives in about a month in Afg. We should have just left at that point. No....the "Powells" in our defense establishment wanted to "freedom" these cats and turn them into a "democracy." It is a naive, dangerous, and ignorant viewpoint of the world. Not everyone wants to be a democracy (or better yet: a Constitutional Republic).
RIP to the man for his military service - condolences to his family for their loss.
...everything else is just politics