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Tucker Carlson thinks Milly should leave..
I agree.. :lifter
How did he get to the position he currently holds? :mad:
Tucker Carlson: The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff should be fired
Mark Milley has repeatedly tried to subvert civilian control of the US military - why is he still in control?
Just before last November's presidential election, two former Army officers wrote an open letter to the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, a man called Mark Milley. The letter was published on a left-wing blog called "Defense One." Within minutes it was all over the Internet.
The authors of the letter had a direct order for Mark Milley, who strictly speaking did not report to them.(?SIC?) "If Donald Trump refuses to leave office," the letter began, "the United States military must remove him by force, and you must give that order." You must remove the president by force.
A new book, written by reporters at The Washington Post who cover Milley, reveals the current chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff as a legitimate extremist — the last person you’d give power to if you could possibly help it.
In the book, Milley describes Donald Trump and the millions who supported him, as the moral equivalent of Adolph Hitler. As thousands of Trump supporters peacefully gathered in Washington for what they assumed was a constitutionally-protected political rally shortly after the election, Milley likened them to "brownshirts" -- the paramilitary wing of the Nazi party. Trump’s complaints about voter fraud, Milley explained to his advisers, out loud, were actually calls for genocide.
"This is a Reichstag moment," Milley said. "The gospel of the Führer." Those are quotes. Think about that. Your grandfather joined the U.S. military to risk his life fighting the Nazis. Now the head of the US military calls you a Nazi for having your grandfather’s political views. What do you think of that?
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-chairman-joint-chiefs-of-staff-should-be-fired
bblhead672
07-22-2021, 13:43
How did he get to the position he currently holds? :mad:
Kneeling lessons from Kamala?
Old Dog New Trick
07-22-2021, 14:32
Kneeling lessons from Kamala?
I don’t know if eating a bowl full of dicks is the same as blowing a bowl full of dicks?
I’m sure they both have experience.
NurseTim
07-23-2021, 00:01
Tucker Carlson thinks Milly should leave..
I agree.. :lifter
How did he get to the position he currently holds? :mad:
Knee pads or milking stool? :D
NurseTim
08-17-2021, 14:15
I read he was commanding general of 5th group. Does this mean that he was at one time he was in an ODA? Or was he plugged in as a flag officer, command is command type. Did he go through qualification training?
I read he was commanding general of 5th group. Does this mean that he was at one time he was in an ODA? Or was he plugged in as a flag officer, command is command type. Did he go through qualification training?
Based on a previous thread that seems to be up in the air.
The Reaper
08-17-2021, 20:52
https://www.defense.gov/Our-Story/Biographies/Biography/article/614392/general-mark-a-milley/
General Mark A. Milley is the 20th Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the nation’s highest-ranking military officer, and the principal military advisor to the President, Secretary of Defense, and National Security Council.
Prior to becoming Chairman on October 1, 2019, General Milley served as the 39th Chief of Staff of the U.S. Army.
A native of Massachusetts, General Milley graduated from Princeton University in 1980, where he received his commission from Army ROTC.
General Milley has had multiple command and staff positions in eight divisions and Special Forces throughout the last 39 years to include command of the 1st Battalion, 506th Infantry, 2nd Infantry Division; the 2nd Brigade, 10th Mountain Division; Deputy Commanding General, 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault); Commanding General, 10th Mountain Division; Commanding General, III Corps; and Commanding General, U.S. Army Forces Command.
While serving as the Commanding General, III Corps, General Milley deployed as the Commanding General, International Security Assistance Force Joint Command and Deputy Commanding General, U.S. Forces Afghanistan. General Milley’s joint assignments also include the Joint Staff operations directorate and as a Military Assistant to the Secretary of Defense.
General Milley’s operational deployments include the Multi-National Force and Observers, Sinai, Egypt; Operation Just Cause, Panama; Operation Uphold Democracy, Haiti; Operation Joint Endeavor, Bosnia-Herzegovina; Operation Iraqi Freedom, Iraq; and three tours during Operation Enduring Freedom, Afghanistan. He also deployed to Somalia and Colombia.
In addition to his bachelor’s degree in political science from Princeton University, General Milley has a master’s degree in international relations from Columbia University and one from the U.S. Naval War College in national security and strategic studies. He is also a graduate of the MIT Seminar XXI National Security Studies Program.
General Milley and his wife, Hollyanne, have been married for more than 34 years and have two children. He was commissioned as a Second Lieutenant of Armor in the U.S. Army through the Reserve Officers’ Training Corps (ROTC).
General Milley served in the 4/68 Armor of the 82nd Airborne, and 18th Airborne Corps, before attending the SFQC and being awarded the SF Tab.
I believe that he then served as an ODA Commander (Captain) in 5th Special Forces Group when it was at Ft. Bragg.
It appears that he opted not to re-branch into Special Forces at the time and returned to the conventional force as was then possible.
TR
It appears that he opted not to re-branch into Special Forces at the time and returned to the conventional force as was then possible.
TR
In my best Martin Sheen voice..... "Why the F*ck would he do that"?
Trapper John
08-18-2021, 08:36
In my best Martin Sheen voice..... "Why the F*ck would he do that"?
My guess is he did this based upon improved promotional opportunities? He strikes me as the type that focuses solely on promotional opportunity rather than mission set?
My guess is he did this based upon improved promotional opportunities? He strikes me as the type that focuses solely on promotional opportunity rather than mission set?
I would venture to guess he was being groomed by his patron.. :munchin
In my best Martin Sheen voice..... "Why the F*ck would he do that"?
Know the son of a retired SF LTC. Went through the Q Course and did his team time as a Captain, didn't branch over, went back to Infantry and retired as a COL.
Working somewhere on Bragg as a contractor or something now.
My guess is he did this based upon improved promotional opportunities? He strikes me as the type that focuses solely on promotional opportunity rather than mission set?
Would that be par with what is referred to as a ladder climber? I have never understood those types but I do give them credit for long term planning.
Badger52
08-18-2021, 18:19
Know the son of a retired SF LTC. Went through the Q Course and did his team time as a Captain, didn't branch over, went back to Infantry and retired as a COL.
Working somewhere on Bragg as a contractor or something now.These circumstances (incl Milley) all sound simply like the difference between a calling and "other duties as assigned" - check the box, see ya, my godfather is waiting.
tom kelly
08-18-2021, 20:52
General Milley is a prime example of someone in a position that he is not qualified to to perform the duties required. His type of non-leadership and lack of responsibility is a primary reason why SOG had one zeros and one-ones. People that could do the job required regardless of military rank got the job to lead and fight. He is not alone and the world can see the LACK of leadership from the POTUS, The VP, The Sect. of Defense, The National Intelligence Advisor. The entire Biden-Harris Administration is inept and being propped-up by the DNC and the main stream media marketing of the ship of fools. We, the U S A are in trouble ... and nothing is been done to stop the spiral plunge to the bottom.
A chuckle..
from a twister mind.. :munchin
The entire Joint Staff is a disgrace. I don't know what's worse: the "we never saw it coming" excuse, or the "we knew this was going to be a chit-show" explanation. Either way, they all need to resign or be fired.
When Milley was CDR FORSCOM, I had to sit in on an accident brief wherein a young troop was tragically killed. The information demands of this clown were insatiable (some of the demands understood), but it went four hours.
"I want to see the NCOER's of the ground guide that night"
"I want to know the ration scheduling"
I want to know the state of cleanliness of the weapons;
etc...etc...etc.
Funny how he relieves himself of those very same requirements when HE is in charge. Fat bastard.
Bottom line up front.
If they didn't know this would happen they were wrong.
If they knew it would happen they didn't speak out so they were wrong again.
Either way they were wrong and should be fired - but they make Joe look good so he'll keep them.
The Reaper
08-19-2021, 10:27
In my best Martin Sheen voice..... "Why the F*ck would he do that"?
IMHO, in one word, careerism.
I am from the same era as Milley.
When I was Infantry in the early-mid 80s, I was told by my branch manager that one tour in SF would not be a problem, but more than that and I was ruining a perfectly good career.
When word came down in 1986 or so that SF was branching, and SF officers could opt to become 18As or return to their basic branch, people had to make decisions.
We had one officer in the battalion choose to return to the Infantry. All the rest went SF.
When I asked him why, he said that the competition for promotion would be much less, and he was going to be a general.
He went down the street to the 82nd and made it all the way to O-5 or O-6 before he was killed in a helicopter crash.
TR
IMHO, in one word, careerism.
I am from the same era as Milley.
When I was Infantry in the early-mid 80s, I was told by my branch manager that one tour in SF would not be a problem, but more than that and I was ruining a perfectly good career.
When word came down in 1986 or so that SF was branching, and SF officers could opt to become 18As or return to their basic branch, people had to make decisions.
We had one officer in the battalion choose to return to the Infantry. All the rest went SF.
When I asked him why, he said that the competition for promotion would be much less, and he was going to be a general.
He went down the street to the 82nd and made it all the way to O-5 or O-6 before he was killed in a helicopter crash.
TR
I know at least four that returned to their Infantry roots and made GO.
Princeton University Graduate. The connections are insidious. far reaching, and expected. He is a product of liberal progressive thinking.
Who is the fattest SF qualified guy on active duty?
Asking for a friend?
Who is the fattest SF qualified guy on active duty?
Asking for a friend?
Damn that’s funny!
Who is the fattest SF qualified guy on active duty?
Asking for a friend?
Da chairmen, he's so big there has to be more than one person in there.
"Hey, hey, hey get outta my way da BIG chairmen is coming."
Who is the fattest SF qualified guy on active duty?
Asking for a friend?
Tell your friend I think this guy! He was last seen diving with the other elephant seals in the bay, Don't think he needed the scuba tank when he got qualified to dive.
The Joint Chiefs to the man should put away their uniforms and dress up like the Village People. It would improve their credibility. Just saying...
2018commo
08-21-2021, 18:02
Who is the fattest SF qualified guy on active duty?
Asking for a friend?
Is that a GO belt or an A7A strap?
doctom54
08-21-2021, 18:23
Is that a GO belt or an A7A strap?
Probably an A7A strap. I’m not sure they make a GO belt big enough for him.
1stindoor
08-23-2021, 06:51
Da chairmen, he's so big there has to be more than one person in there.
"Hey, hey, hey get outta my way da BIG chairmen is coming."
Why do I sense a new set of jokes coming?...Your chairman is so fat, he keeps Yen in one pocket and Marks in the other.
Trapper John
08-23-2021, 07:13
The entire Joint Staff is a disgrace. I don't know what's worse: the "we never saw it coming" excuse, or the "we knew this was going to be a chit-show" explanation. Either way, they all need to resign or be fired.
When Milley was CDR FORSCOM, I had to sit in on an accident brief wherein a young troop was tragically killed. The information demands of this clown were insatiable (some of the demands understood), but it went four hours.
"I want to see the NCOER's of the ground guide that night"
"I want to know the ration scheduling"
I want to know the state of cleanliness of the weapons;
etc...etc...etc.
Funny how he relieves himself of those very same requirements when HE is in charge. Fat bastard.
I knew a Pharma Exec just like that! No strategic sense, no inter-personal skills, just a bean counting a-hole that avoided real responsibility like the plague unless of course he had a fall-guy to blame when things went sideways.
Tell your friend I think this guy! He was last seen diving with the other elephant seals in the bay, Don't think he needed the scuba tank when he got qualified to dive.
Perhaps the General should consider Col. Kurtz’s example of only allowing shaded photos that will conceal his girth.
bblhead672
08-23-2021, 16:03
:D
Old Dog New Trick
08-23-2021, 16:12
Ha ha ha!
Won't get old for as long as he holds his job
:D
To be fair, they mostly only wore their top three awards back in Ike's time.
To be fair, they mostly only wore their top three awards back in Ike's time.
To be MORE fair - that might be the point. Some might call it humility - at best it shows a lack of interest in 'flash'
One guy is wearing 12 pieces of "SWAG" - stuff we all get - show up, and you get an award. Throw in the name tag and the two Staff Identification Badges, and one of those guys already has enough pieces of flair to get a job at Chotchkies.
One guy has two different awards (SWAG that isn't being worn in the phot) that are literally named "Victory" medals.
You, know - medals given out for winning two world wars.
One guy was in charge and he wrote an "I lost the war its all my fault" letter in case his invasion plan went south. He went on to become the President of the United States of America, and warned us about the threat of curruptoin and malfeasance from the Military Industrial Complex.
One guy was in charge and has accused most of his force of teetering on extremism. Then he went on to explain why he wants us to learn about the origins of white rage. One guy helped plan a withdrawal not under enemy pressure that became a botched withdrawal under enemy pressure and between him, his boss, and his bosses boss, cannot seem to tell the same story about what went wrong. Coincidentally, he is part of the Military Industrial Complex..
In all honesty - that meme shouldn't even exist. One of those guys doesn't deserve to share space on a page with the other guy.
:D
Factor in that little-advertized tidbit that Ike never spent time carrying a loaded weapon. Because of the timing of WWI and WWII, it was June 23, 1942, when he was posted to London as Commanding General, European Theater of Operations (ETOUSA), that he commanded fighting troops. :munchin
Factor in that little-advertized tidbit that Ike never spent time carrying a loaded weapon.......
Might have been carrying a loaded pistol in July of 1928.
rsdengler
08-24-2021, 08:48
In all honesty - that meme shouldn't even exist. One of those guys doesn't deserve to share space on a page with the other guy.
Truth...
Eisenhower's Farewell Address should be required reading in High School. It contains much more then a mere warning against the Military Industrial complex. Here is but a fragment:
"The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present and is gravely to be regarded.
Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite.
It is the task of statesmanship to mold, to balance, and to integrate these and other forces, new and old, within the principles of our democratic system-ever aiming toward the supreme goals of our free society."
Eisenhower's Farewell Address should be required reading in High School. It contains much more then a mere warning against the Military Industrial complex. Here is but a fragment:
"The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present and is gravely to be regarded.
Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite.
It is the task of statesmanship to mold, to balance, and to integrate these and other forces, new and old, within the principles of our democratic system-ever aiming toward the supreme goals of our free society."
Yes! This is the part that is never brought up when the Military Industrial Complex speech is mentioned. They are two sides of the same coin.
Go Devil
09-28-2021, 17:19
Deplorable. Jokes aside, excuses aside, that fucker is deplorable. Of all the opportunities to learn, and he chose to grift. Deplorable.That masthead needs to be broken.