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Army special ops school labels ‘III,’ Oathkeeper, QAnon logos as ‘extremist’ symbols; punishable if worn
The John F. Kennedy Special Warfare Center and School advised its students and personnel last week from using 14 different logos, including the Roman numeral “III” symbol, which they link to extremist groups and ideologies. The school banned personnel from wearing the symbols on duty and have told students using the symbols outside of duty hours could also result in punishment.
Janice Burton, a spokesperson for the John F. Kennedy Special Warfare Center and School (SWCS) provided a list of the 14 “extremist” symbols to American Military News on Wednesday. The list of symbols comes from a database of symbols the New York Police Department’s Intelligence Bureau has labeled “extremist imagery.”
The symbols include:
QAnon symbols
The III symbol
Proud Boys symbols
Oath Keepers symbols
Symbols of National Social Club 131
The “Kek” flag
Boogaloo symbols
The Swastika
A Swastike and dagger symbol
14
88
The Nordic “Sunwheel”
“SS” lightning bolts
The Wheel Cross, also known as an Odin’s Cross or Celtic Cross
“WP” symbols, including as a hand sign
The Archangel Michael Cross
The Othala Rune
The Norse Algis Rune
The “Totenkopf” or “Death’s Head” skull and crossbones
The Universal Order, skastika and scales symbol
The nuclear symbol
Triple parenthesis ((( )))
Pepe the frog
Col. Matt Gomlack, chief of staff at the training center, advised all personnel that if they wear or post any of the symbols going forward they could face “military punishment.”
https://americanmilitarynews.com/2021/02/army-special-ops-school-labels-iii-oathkeeper-qanon-logos-as-extremist-symbols-punishable-if-worn/
Does anyone need tattoo removal services?? :munchin
The Reaper
02-12-2021, 11:28
The land of the free, and the home of the brave.
The First Amendment (like the Second) no longer means what you thought it did.
Pray for the Republic.
TR
Roguish Lawyer
02-12-2021, 11:40
The land of the free, and the home of the brave.
The First Amendment (like the Second) no longer means what you thought it did.
Pray for the Republic.
TR
So are you still in Free Pineland or is it all occupied now? :munchin
Sure hope my St. Christoper doesn’t someday piss off TPTB.
Looks like the VA is going to have their work cut out for them trying to fix all of the Available Emblems of Belief for Placement on Government Headstones and Markers that are used by the National Cemetery Administration.
Old Dog New Trick
02-12-2021, 12:46
Man, I almost freaked out and lost it there for a moment. I thought for sure 3, 9 and 13 would be on the list as well as the circled scarlet letter “A”, BLM and Rainbow 6 colored flags.
Also for now at least the ISIS flag can still be hung on a barracks wall right next to “Betsy Ross” 13-Colonial States flag. For now, at least, since because they already outlawed the Confederate Battle Flag last year they left it off this list of White Supremacist symbols. Next they will be coming for your Chevy SS, Kiss and ZZ-Top albums.
The “Mad Hatter” is going to have a busy busy year.
Ret10Echo
02-12-2021, 13:23
Aloha Shirts??
I was on 014... does the preceding zero make things safe or is that a dog whistle for the easily offended?
IMOO, the Biden administration is making a huge miscalculation with this type of stuff...they will likely just create the equivalent of millions of “4%ers.”
miclo18d
02-12-2021, 14:27
Just like the bureaucracy to eff things all up and half azz their PP presentation.
They missed:
1-11: 1-11 is a numeric symbol used by the Aryan Knights, an Idaho-based prison gang, to identify themselves. Substituting letters for numbers, 1 and 11 mean A and K, i.e., Aryan Knights.
100%: 100% is shorthand for "100% white" among white supremacists. It is also common to create alphanumeric variations to proclaim solidarity with a particular white supremacist group or gang, such as "112%" for "100% Aryan Brotherhood."
109/110: The figure 109 is white supremacist numeric shorthand for the number of countries anti-Semites claim Jews have been expelled from. In calling for the expulsion of Jews from the U.S., they often refer to the U.S. as the 110th.
12: The number 12 is a numeric symbol for Aryan Brotherhood groups (as are the numbers 1 and 2 separately), especially the Aryan Brotherhood of Texas. Substituting letters for numbers, 12 equals AB, i.e., Aryan Brotherhood.
13: The number 13 is a numeric symbol for the Aryan Circle, the large Texas-based racist prison gang. Substituting letters for numbers, 1 and 3 equals A and C, i.e., AC or Aryan Circle.
13/52 and/or 13/90 : 13/52 and 13/90 are racist numeric codes used by white supremacists to portray African-Americans as savage and criminal. White supremacists claim that Blacks make up only 13% of the U.S. population but commit 52% of all murders and 90% of all violent interracial crime.
14: 14 is numerical shorthand for the white supremacist slogan known as the "14 Words": "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children." <———- this stood out to the army for some reason compared to the rest! lmfao
14/23: The number combination 14/23 is a numeric symbol associated with the Southern Brotherhood, the largest white supremacist prison gang in Alabama. The 14 is a reference to the white supremacist "14 Words" slogan ("We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children"), while the 23 refers to the "23 precepts," a list of rules that Southern Brotherhood members must follow.
14/88 or 1488: 1488 is the combination of two common white supremacist numeric symbols: 1) 14 (shorthand for the "14 Words" slogan: "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children") and 2) 88 (standing for "Heil Hitler").
18: 18 is a white supremacist alphanumeric code for Adolf Hitler (1=A and 8=H). It is most commonly associated with the British white supremacist group Combat 18 or C18.
28: 28 is the white supremacist alphanumeric code for Blood & Honour, an international racist skinhead group.
318: The number 318 is a white supremacist numeric symbol. The 3 in the symbol is a numeric substitution for the letter C. C18 stands for Combat 18, a British white supremacist group that occasionally develops chapters in the United States. The 18 in its name stands for Adolf Hitler.
38: The number 38 is used as a numeric symbol by members of the Hammerskins, a racist skinhead group. Substituting letters for numbers, 38 stands for CH or "Crossed Hammers," a reference to the crossed hammers of the group's logo.
42: (So glad they skipped 42....that would have killed the sci-fi world!)
43: The number 43 is a numeric symbol used by members of the racist skinhead group Supreme White Alliance (SWA). If one substitutes numbers for the letters in SWA's initials (19, 23, 1), then adds those numbers together, the total is 43.
511: The number 511 is a numeric symbol for the Oregon-based racist prison gang European Kindred. Substituting letters for numbers, the 5 and 11 equate to E and K, i.e., European Kindred.
737: The number 737 is a numeric symbol used by Public Enemy Number 1 (PENI), a California-based white supremacist gang present on California's streets and in its prisons. The numbers 737 correspond to the letters P, D, and S on a telephone keypad; the initials PDS stand for Peni Death Squad, another name for the group. <——-if you worked for Boeing or an airline before the army....check yourself!
83: 83 is a white supremacist numeric symbol standing for "Heil Christ" or "Hail Christ," typically used by adherents of the racist and anti-Semitic religious sect Christian Identity.
88: The number 88 is a symbolically important number for white supremacists (who use it as a numeric code for "Heil Hitler"), so occasionally a white supremacist will use a hand sign to display or flash the number 88.
9%: 9% is a numeric white supremacist symbol that refers to the percentage of the world's population that is purportedly white.
That’s just the numbers!!!
Old Dog New Trick
02-12-2021, 14:39
Oh dear sweet baby Jesus...I could just about now see them banning 511 because numbers matter.
Great list... miclo18d, and it goes on and on...will 1984 (Nineteen Eighty-Four) be banned...the title to a dystopian social science fiction novel...
What if some folks merely sum up (add) various numbers ? Subtract, Divide? Multiply ?
Will only western Arabic numerals count ?
Will Roman numerals count?
Egyptian ?
Babylonian ?
Khmer ?
Thai ?
Vietnamese ?
Mayan?
If government is going to overreach it may as well think big.
miclo18d
02-12-2021, 14:44
Weird how they loooooove their weird numberology
I remember watching a documentary on aryan brotherhood inmates c.2000 that used the enigma code to write secret messages....I guess they aren’t huge on history education and didn’t realize that the code was broken in WWII.
I would chalk that up to Dunning/Krueger.
Caveat: they used the enigma code because Germany used it in WWII. Any and all things tied to hitler...:rolleyes:
911 banned...after all defund the police...
...oh, my bad that’s ok in the current environment...with a line through it.
The numerology game is crazy.
Weird how they loooooove their weird numberology
I remember watching a documentary on aryan brotherhood inmates c.2000 that used the enigma code to write secret messages....I guess they aren’t huge on history education and didn’t realize that the code was broken in WWII.
I would chalk that up to Dunning/Krueger.
Caveat: they used the enigma code because Germany used it in WWII. Any and all things tied to hitler...:rolleyes:
The aryan brotherhood in that documentary may be a little disappointed in using numerology if they dig a bit into who is generally credited with inventing numerical systems.
The aryan brotherhood in that documentary may be a little disappointed in using numerology if they dig a bit into who is generally credited with inventing numerical systems.
After dealing with enough of them, believe me...they aren't that bright to even care about any of that.
RCummings
02-12-2021, 17:23
The numerology is interesting. I have a Blackcat standing on the number 13 tattoo on my forearm. Installed in a little village in Korea in '79, my father had the same tattoo from sometime, he was a Veteran of both Korea and Vietnam. I was told by an NCO it indicated I smoked dope, my reply was that I got it because my father had it among others and I didn't smoke dope but you know NCO's they know everything. It seems the same with the people talking about "right wing". They wouldn't know "right wing" if it jumped up and bit them. God Bless the soldiers sailors marines and airmen who will still protect our country regardless of the political climate and Chinese influence. My father passed away on 1Feb21 and he was appalled at this BS.
I say V/R to the members of this site and F/Y to the folks monitoring this site.
Bob
The numerology is interesting. I have a Blackcat standing on the number 13 tattoo on my forearm. Installed in a little village in Korea in '79, my father had the same tattoo from sometime, he was a Veteran of both Korea and Vietnam. I was told by an NCO it indicated I smoked dope, my reply was that I got it because my father had it among others and I didn't smoke dope but you know NCO's they know everything. It seems the same with the people talking about "right wing". They wouldn't know "right wing" if it jumped up and bit them. God Bless the soldiers sailors marines and airmen who will still protect our country regardless of the political climate and Chinese influence. My father passed away on 1Feb21 and he was appalled at this BS.
I say V/R to the members of this site and F/Y to the folks monitoring this site.
Bob
Bob, sorry for the loss of your Dad.
...My father passed away on 1Feb21 and he was appalled at this BS...
My sincerest condolences on the loss of your father, Bob!
miclo18d
02-12-2021, 17:59
Unfortunately you can make any number mean anything you want.
This is just Don Quijotes chasing windmills.
Unfortunately you can make any number mean anything you want.
This is just Don Quijotes chasing windmills.
Exactly.
Badger52
02-12-2021, 18:04
A new generation of Led Zep fans might be in trouble.
I'll go out on a limb and suggest that NYPD intel and DHS had - as usual - help from the Southern Poverty Lie Center.
Adding the different crosses & the Norse imagery is just like a bunch of whimpy 'fraidy cats.
:munchin
And, where is the outrage by the “my body my choice” crowd ?
This is all academic...soon numbers will be outlawed anyway...math is apparently racist.
https://www.seattletimes.com/education-lab/new-course-outlines-prompt-conversations-about-identity-race-in-seattle-classrooms-even-in-math/
"Is Seattle really teaching that “math is racist”? Why did parents start to see ideas for math lessons that go far beyond numbers and into questions of identity?"
Well, well, you're not to far off there tonyz.....:eek:
Badger52
02-13-2021, 07:16
https://www.seattletimes.com/education-lab/new-course-outlines-prompt-conversations-about-identity-race-in-seattle-classrooms-even-in-math/
From among the hundreds of comments to that 2019article:
Math isn't racist but the progressive administrators that use race as a weapon for their own agenda are.
Also comments are present discussing the proponent of that program and what a racist she is, denigrating anyone - including someone "of color" - who disagrees with her. Be interesting to see how the locals are viewing all that now over a year down the road.
Badger52
02-13-2021, 07:54
Be interesting to see how the locals are viewing all that now over a year down the road.Well, this is embarassing. Should've known the sludge could run south to a welcome mat in Oregon. This from 12 Feb 2021:
The Oregon Department of Education is promoting a course for teachers that links math lessons to racism and a culture of “white supremacy.”
Full article here (https://www.westernjournal.com/oregon-pushes-idea-math-racist-encourages-teachers-dismantle-white-supremacy/)
All these measures are just parallel lines of effort to the same end.
Last hard class
02-13-2021, 08:21
Cultural appropriation may not be the dumbest idea currently trending, but its close. Wonder what they're teaching the students at Key West to signal when they come out of the water nowadays?
This is mine and that is yours. Unless its related to sexual identity. Then cultural appropriation is hurtful.
LHC
Florida Patriot
02-13-2021, 09:04
I caught a news story that the Pentagon is preparing to rename all mil bases with Confederate names to something other than a Confederate name.
WarriorDiplomat
02-13-2021, 10:59
I caught a news story that the Pentagon is preparing to rename all mil bases with Confederate names to something other than a Confederate name.
Saw that this is Obamas third tour as POTUS
Strange though that under Obama DOD completely relaxed the tattoo policy.....I smelled SETUP then and wrote posts about it here.....we have got to be smarter than to keep falling for the Dems traps... this will escalate
What is wrong with hiding in plain site? I see ******* videos by these former GBs like that idiot FNG academy and others coaching ANYONE on what to expect and how to "game" the Q course??
TOMAHAWK9521
02-13-2021, 11:06
The numerology is interesting. I have a Blackcat standing on the number 13 tattoo on my forearm. Installed in a little village in Korea in '79, my father had the same tattoo from sometime, he was a Veteran of both Korea and Vietnam. I was told by an NCO it indicated I smoked dope, my reply was that I got it because my father had it among others and I didn't smoke dope but you know NCO's they know everything. It seems the same with the people talking about "right wing". They wouldn't know "right wing" if it jumped up and bit them. God Bless the soldiers sailors marines and airmen who will still protect our country regardless of the political climate and Chinese influence. My father passed away on 1Feb21 and he was appalled at this BS.
I say V/R to the members of this site and F/Y to the folks monitoring this site.
Bob
My condolences for the loss of your father, Bob.
RCummings
02-13-2021, 13:14
Thank you all for the condolences. My father went all the way thru Korea as an Army cook in an artillery unit. He went to the Air Force afterwards as Air Search and Rescue. He finished his career with the Air Force as an NCOIC of Aerospace Medicine last duty station Bitburg AFB Germany.
He lived the way he wanted and importantly to me, passed exactly the way he wanted to.
tom kelly
02-13-2021, 19:57
Target the Radical Left liberal pols, show them that there would be NO WESTERN CIVILIZATION without WHITE SUPERIORITY...The railroads were not built by coolies, Say things that push libs to hysteria....The North won the Civil War because the North had more Irish Generals that were alcoholics. !!!!
The Nordic “Sunwheel”
The Archangel Michael Cross
The Othala Rune
The Norse Algis Rune
Going to run afoul of AR-670-1
Authorized Religion symbols.
AR 600–20, para 5–6g(2)(d)).
(a) Soldiers may wear religious apparel, articles, or jewelry with the uniform, to include the physical fitness uniform, if they are neat, conservative, and discreet. “Neat conservative,and discret”is defined as meting the uniform criteria of this regulation. In other words, when religious jewelry is worn, the uniform must meet the same standards of wear as if the religious jewelry were not worn. For
example, a religious item worn on a chain may not be visible when worn with the utility, service, dress, or mess uniforms. When worn with the physical fitness uniform, the item should be no more visible than identification (ID) tags would be in the same uniform. The width of chains worn with religious items should be approximately the same size as the width of the ID tag chain.
(b) Soldiers may not wear these items when doing so would interfere with the performance of their duties or present a safety concern. Soldiers may not be prohibited, however, from wearing religious apparel, articles, or jewelry meeting the criteria of this regulation simply because they are religious in nature, if wear is permitted of similar items of a nonreligious nature. A specific example would be wearing a ring with a religious symbol. If the ring meets the uniform standards for jewelry and is not worn in a work area where rings are prohibited because of safety concerns, then wear is allowed and may not be prohibited simply because the ring bears a religious symbol.
http://www.openhalls.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Faith-and-Belief-Codes-for-Reporting-Personnel-Data-of-Service-Members.pdf
FY and G3 are protected
The Nordic “Sunwheel”
The Archangel Michael Cross
The Othala Rune
The Norse Algis Rune
Going to run afoul of AR-670-1
Authorized Religion symbols.
AR 600–20, para 5–6g(2)(d)).
(a) Soldiers may wear religious apparel, articles, or jewelry with the uniform, to include the physical fitness uniform, if they are neat, conservative, and discreet. “Neat conservative,and discret”is defined as meting the uniform criteria of this regulation. In other words, when religious jewelry is worn, the uniform must meet the same standards of wear as if the religious jewelry were not worn. For
example, a religious item worn on a chain may not be visible when worn with the utility, service, dress, or mess uniforms. When worn with the physical fitness uniform, the item should be no more visible than identification (ID) tags would be in the same uniform. The width of chains worn with religious items should be approximately the same size as the width of the ID tag chain.
(b) Soldiers may not wear these items when doing so would interfere with the performance of their duties or present a safety concern. Soldiers may not be prohibited, however, from wearing religious apparel, articles, or jewelry meeting the criteria of this regulation simply because they are religious in nature, if wear is permitted of similar items of a nonreligious nature. A specific example would be wearing a ring with a religious symbol. If the ring meets the uniform standards for jewelry and is not worn in a work area where rings are prohibited because of safety concerns, then wear is allowed and may not be prohibited simply because the ring bears a religious symbol.
http://www.openhalls.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Faith-and-Belief-Codes-for-Reporting-Personnel-Data-of-Service-Members.pdf
FY and G3 are protected
Some one is going to do pushback. Hell I have had a Archangel Michael Cross most of my life and carried it around the world. My Priest gave it to me so is the Catholic Church now on the evil empire list? The druids will be upset about the runes.
Let all get but hurt so we all feel the same:eek::rolleyes:
https://www.seattletimes.com/education-lab/new-course-outlines-prompt-conversations-about-identity-race-in-seattle-classrooms-even-in-math/
"Is Seattle really teaching that “math is racist”? Why did parents start to see ideas for math lessons that go far beyond numbers and into questions of identity?"
Well, well, you're not to far off there tonyz.....:eek:
Seems to be spreading too...
Oregon Promotes Program Focused On ‘Dismantling Racism In Mathematics,’ Says Finding The Right Answer A Sign Of White Supremacy
By Ashe Schow
Feb 13, 2021
DailyWire.com
https://www.dailywire.com/news/oregon-promotes-program-focused-on-dismantling-racism-in-mathematics-says-finding-the-right-answer-a-sign-of-white-supremacy
“The toolkit also asks instructors to “center ethnomathematics” in multiple ways, one of which is to “identify and challenge the ways that math is used to uphold capitalist, imperialist, and racist views.”
Scimitar
02-14-2021, 22:19
So, they've banned the OK hand sign.
Nice one guys.
A few notes
- I'm pretty sure the OK hand sign being a white power hand signal was started as an online prank by the 4chan website, and is not actually a thing.
- Next thing you know we won't be able to say white, we'll need to call it "the colour who's name shall not be spoken".
- Banning some of these I get, but do you really think they're not going to just change what they call it.
- Some of the items chosen will have zero effect and have just been chosen as out-right virtue signaling.
Shut down extremism, and especially white supremacy, definitely!
But this!? Gawd, could it be more of a, politically generated ,weak ass, attempt or what!
S
Old Dog New Trick
02-14-2021, 22:57
So, they've banned the OK hand sign.
Nice one guys.
A few notes
- I'm pretty sure the OK hand sign being a white power hand signal was started as an online prank by the 4chan website, and is not actually a thing.
S
I don’t think the “OK” hand signal has been banned by anyone yet, Apple still allows it in their emoji list, at least until the next update. Just like the “OK” hand signal means “asshole” in Germany, and a thumbs up means Fu*k you in Arabic, and a reverse “Peace” sign in England will land you in trouble unless you are Sir Winston Churchill because it means Fu*k You to them.
I believe it’s the upside-down method of of the “OK” hand signal means White-Power or is considered racist by the SPLC/ADL which looks more like a “P” with three legs or III%. You will notice the White-Power guys and that Mickey Mouse character that hold it out over someone’s shoulder or out of their pants pocket. That is the racist use of the “OK” hand sign.
Just sayin’
P.S. If it goes much deeper than that PADI and NADA are going to have to rewrite the whole SCUBA diving handbook because “OK” means “OK!”
Seems to be spreading too...
Oregon Promotes Program Focused On ‘Dismantling Racism In Mathematics,’ Says Finding The Right Answer A Sign Of White Supremacy
By Ashe Schow
Feb 13, 2021
DailyWire.com
https://www.dailywire.com/news/oregon-promotes-program-focused-on-dismantling-racism-in-mathematics-says-finding-the-right-answer-a-sign-of-white-supremacy
“The toolkit also asks instructors to “center ethnomathematics” in multiple ways, one of which is to “identify and challenge the ways that math is used to uphold capitalist, imperialist, and racist views.”
I can only imagine how that might impact STEM fields..
Seems to be spreading too...
Oregon Promotes Program Focused On ‘Dismantling Racism In Mathematics,’ Says Finding The Right Answer A Sign Of White Supremacy
By Ashe Schow
Feb 13, 2021
DailyWire.com
https://www.dailywire.com/news/oregon-promotes-program-focused-on-dismantling-racism-in-mathematics-says-finding-the-right-answer-a-sign-of-white-supremacy
“The toolkit also asks instructors to “center ethnomathematics” in multiple ways, one of which is to “identify and challenge the ways that math is used to uphold capitalist, imperialist, and racist views.”
Guess Katherine Johnson never got the memo
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/forgotten-black-women-mathematicians-who-helped-win-wars-and-send-astronauts-space-180960393/
Guess Katherine Johnson never got the memo
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/forgotten-black-women-mathematicians-who-helped-win-wars-and-send-astronauts-space-180960393/
That’s so 1960’s...we are sooooooo much more enlightened now.
We now know “that math is used to uphold capitalist, imperialist, and racist views.”
BAMN !
They will do or say whatever they can in order to keep the populace "stupid." We already have kids that can't add or subtract working in places where if the cash register goes down, they almost can't function. Racist math must be outlawed.
The danger of living in a time of absurdity.
“Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.”
~Voltaire
Just like the bureaucracy to eff things all up and half azz their PP presentation.
They missed:
42: (So glad they skipped 42....that would have killed the sci-fi world!)
white.
That’s just the numbers!!!
You made me laugh my ass off on this one!! Ooops, I guess that means I am a sci-fi nerd.....sigh
Scimitar
02-16-2021, 01:07
I don’t think the “OK” hand signal has been banned by anyone yet, Apple still allows it in their emoji list, at least until the next update. Just like the “OK” hand signal means “asshole” in Germany, and a thumbs up means Fu*k you in Arabic, and a reverse “Peace” sign in England will land you in trouble unless you are Sir Winston Churchill because it means Fu*k You to them.
I believe it’s the upside-down method of of the “OK” hand signal means White-Power or is considered racist by the SPLC/ADL which looks more like a “P” with three legs or III%. You will notice the White-Power guys and that Mickey Mouse character that hold it out over someone’s shoulder or out of their pants pocket. That is the racist use of the “OK” hand sign.
Just sayin’
P.S. If it goes much deeper than that PADI and NADA are going to have to rewrite the whole SCUBA diving handbook because “OK” means “OK!”
Thanks for the reply ODNT.
I'm referring to this from the OP
"The symbols (to be banned) include...“WP” symbols, including as a hand sign"
And this from the ADL
https://www.adl.org/education/references/hate-symbols/okay-hand-gesture
The article says this about the 4chan prank turned real world.
I guess life imitates art after all.
"According to the website "Know Your Meme", as a prank, 4chan users in 2017 launched a campaign to flood social media with posts linking the "OK" hand gesture to the white power movement.
Commenters on the message board appropriated images of people posing in the White House and other locations making the hand symbol as proof that it was catching on.
However, now the number of people espousing hate while using the gesture has grown so widespread that it can no longer be considered a prank."
Perhaps someone at SWCS could clarify if "OK" is still "OK"?
S
Quartz_MJC
02-16-2021, 09:02
I can only imagine how that might impact STEM fields..
Funny but sad. A metric to watch is the Science and engineering accreditation boards for universities. These boards set a prescribed curriculum. When these boards are infected by the woke virus and math and such no longer needed for accreditation we are fucked. I'll go one step further accreditation will be seen as racist. Infract the only accreditation required will woke curriculum . Wonder if China and Russia have this problem?
Wonder if China and Russia have this problem?
Baizuo??
https://betterbachelor.locals.com/post/433630/baizuo-https-en-wikipedia-org-wiki-baizuo
Funny but sad. A metric to watch is the Science and engineering accreditation boards for universities. These boards set a prescribed curriculum. When these boards are infected by the woke virus and math and such no longer needed for accreditation we are fucked. I'll go one step further accreditation will be seen as racist. Infract the only accreditation required will woke curriculum . Wonder if China and Russia have this problem?
Ethnomathematics is just another stepping stone in the dumbing down of America's youth which sets them on a path towards servitude and ineptitude.
TZ's post brought to mind Common Core math and the confusion it creates for many, and how it has short circuited many youth including my son. Nothing like getting every answer correct only to fail because you didn't use the prescribed process. I work for a person who was an engineer at Skunkworks who donated his time to teach math to a bunch of youth (like my son) who had difficulties with math. By the end of his course all but one or two kids aced the final. The facility was amazed at what he had accomplished until he told them how he accomplished this feat.......old school teaching! He was told that was verboten and they were not allowed to teach in that manner.
His response was something to the effect of 'Do you want them to learn the basic of math, or would you rather them fail because they don't use the prescribed process'.
Worse yet the schools can't leave a child behind so they graduate kids who do not understand the basics and will have a extremely difficult time succeeding in the real world.
I would wager that China, Russia and India are already taking full advantage of this decline. Hell, they probably gave grants to Academia to create these new and improved teaching methods.
mojaveman
02-16-2021, 22:09
The Nous Defions symbol that was popular at the Mott Lake SOT training facility back in the day could now get someone removed from the Regiment?
Times have changed...
1stindoor
02-17-2021, 07:23
....he told them how he accomplished this feat.......old school teaching! He was told that was verboten and they were not allowed to teach in that manner.
His response was something to the effect of 'Do you want them to learn the basic of math, or would you rather them fail because they don't use the prescribed process'.
Worse yet the schools can't leave a child behind so they graduate kids who do not understand the basics and will have a extremely difficult time succeeding in the real world.
I would wager that China, Russia and India are already taking full advantage of this decline. Hell, they probably gave grants to Academia to create these new and improved teaching methods.
I have had this same argument with my daughter (5th grade Math teacher). She says rote teaching, i.e. multiplication tables doesn't work. I merely said it was enough to build this country and put men on the moon. As for those "grants" for new methods...try researching something called "Singapore Math." That was a huge push a few years ago.
Badger52
02-17-2021, 16:18
I have had this same argument with my daughter (5th grade Math teacher). She says rote teaching, i.e. multiplication tables doesn't work. I merely said it was enough to build this country and put men on the moon.That is a topic that is a basis for a justified generational rant at any time. (I suppose the old kids' pencil box with the slide-rule-like thing that drilled in the tables up to 9x9 wouldn't be allowed in a modern class.)
bblhead672
02-17-2021, 17:08
I have had this same argument with my daughter (5th grade Math teacher). She says rote teaching, i.e. multiplication tables doesn't work. I merely said it was enough to build this country and put men on the moon. As for those "grants" for new methods...try researching something called "Singapore Math." That was a huge push a few years ago.
She believes that because that's what the indoctrination system and the union taught her.
Fantastic comeback about building the country and putting men on the moon.
Old Dog New Trick
02-17-2021, 17:49
That is a topic that is a basis for a justified generational rant at any time. (I suppose the old kids' pencil box with the slide-rule-like thing that drilled in the tables up to 9x9 wouldn't be allowed in a modern class.)
81
81
You've still got your pencil box? :lifter
81
You can't use that number anymore Brother...it belongs to a white supremacist outlaw motorcycle gang. Bad numbers...bad....
1stindoor
02-17-2021, 20:27
You can't use that number anymore Brother...it belongs to a white supremacist outlaw motorcycle gang. Bad numbers...bad....
I was going to say the same thing. 8+1 is 9, which is divisible by 3. Bad numbers indeed.
Old Dog New Trick
02-17-2021, 21:35
81 = Hell’s Angels ... doesn’t It?
Badger52
02-18-2021, 05:34
You've still got your pencil box? :lifter They worked! Now THAT's validation!
:lifter
1stindoor
02-18-2021, 07:01
She believes that because that's what the indoctrination system and the union taught her.
Very true...didn't help that she went to a very liberal tree-hugging university.
81 = Hell’s Angels ... doesn’t It?
Yep, it sure does. If people would dig deep enough, I'm sure there is something "evil" about many things. History is what it is and symbolism has played a large part of our history -- good and bad. Changing them won't change a thing.