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NurseTim
02-04-2021, 19:12
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/02/04/exclusive-special-forces-warned-against-using-pepe-the-frog-iiiers-other-extremist-symbols/?fbclid=IwAR21_1KFlXbu1sO99cNnX1y6-sjYfqOM-tAIcLcDFbBSfI5t4rISTr0KKAI

Is the Army also against blm and antifa?

tom kelly
02-04-2021, 20:01
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/02/04/exclusive-special-forces-warned-against-using-pepe-the-frog-iiiers-other-extremist-symbols/?fbclid=IwAR21_1KFlXbu1sO99cNnX1y6-sjYfqOM-tAIcLcDFbBSfI5t4rISTr0KKAI

Is the Army also against blm and antifa?

Seems only some symbols are the R word of associated with W S. a black glove on a raised fist is a symbol of ( u supply an answer) The gold hammer & sickle on a red background is a symbol of freedom from oppression...Joe Stalin, Beria, the KGB, bring back those symbols, so we can feel better.

sfshooter
02-04-2021, 23:47
I see the Celtic cross is on that list of extremist symbols. I have seen that particular symbol in use by Christians in my lifetime, not extremists.

I reckon they had better go through all the cemeteries and do a little demolition as that symbol is prolific with grave markers too.

sg1987
02-05-2021, 06:27
^^^^^
Give them time. They're just getting started. The south is dotted with small town squares, many of which have Confederate monuments. Those with the misfortune of being close enough to an area of urban sprawl are seeing dems take over local leadership and poof....the monuments disappear quickly. I believe Christians can rest assured that one day not too far from now, they will learn that they are members of a hate group that must be "de-programed".

Badger52
02-05-2021, 06:36
The baby yelling "wheeeee!" as it flies through the air on its ways out with the bath water.

Old Dog New Trick
02-05-2021, 07:12
I just feel sorry for all the people that bought a Jeep with “Zombie Defense” (aka nuclear symbol) stickers all over it. They must be “purged” for the good of the service.

If someone plays Call of Duty or HALO does that make them a nationalistic racist?

Seriously, this is the kind of sh!t that starts a revolution or at least a movement in that direction. Poke that bear, go on, I dare you to poke that sleeping bear!

:munchin

I saw a lot of Greek Spartan helmets and “Punisher patches” on 1/6 are those going to be included some day at a later time? How about the American Flag? Can we please hurry up and ban the American Flag so soldiers don’t have to be embarrassed or put at increased risk going into foreign countries wearing that on their sleeve.

Box
02-05-2021, 07:26
Looks like paratroopers need a new patron Saint as well.

Paslode
02-05-2021, 08:28
Is the Army also against blm and antifa?

No. The reason being is that BLM and ANTIFA are components of a vast, cross-partisan campaign to protect the country and it's foundations.

Do recall that BLM and ANTIFA are according to the FBI "Ideologies" and Wind Mills in our minds. Whereas the MAGA and Patriot movements are the next AQI according to Stanley McChrystal, John Brennan, Kevin Carroll and many other past and present members of the Military Industrial Complex.

Ret10Echo
02-05-2021, 09:11
I see the Celtic cross is on that list of extremist symbols. I have seen that particular symbol in use by Christians in my lifetime, not extremists.

I reckon they had better go through all the cemeteries and do a little demolition as that symbol is prolific with grave markers too.


Popular practice in Bosnia ....

Sohei
02-05-2021, 09:38
^^^^^
Give them time. They're just getting started. The south is dotted with small town squares, many of which have Confederate monuments. Those with the misfortune of being close enough to an area of urban sprawl are seeing dems take over local leadership and poof....the monuments disappear quickly. I believe Christians can rest assured that one day not too far from now, they will learn that they are members of a hate group that must be "de-programed".

Communist have a "long-term" plan that they are being afforded the opportunity to employ with impunity right now. Regardless of how they won the election...they won it and to the victor goes the spoils. It's up the the rest to win it back. The question is...do they have the will and ability to do so. We shall see during the next four years.

Eagle5US
02-05-2021, 10:49
Communist have a "long-term" plan that they are being afforded the opportunity to employ with impunity right now. Regardless of how they won the election...they won it and to the victor goes the spoils. It's up the the rest to win it back. The question is...do they have the will and ability to do so. We shall see during the next four years.

The will of the people doesn't matter...it was "the will of the people" last time - proof be damned.

How to get around fraud in a system now focused on "transforming the basis of the American experience" (to something what? "LESS American?" "UNAmerican?")

No, the will of the people is expressed in free and fair elections. The AMERICAN CITIZENRY no longer has the ability to enjoy that luxury.

bblhead672
02-05-2021, 11:52
Has Department of Homeland Security (DHS) taken on the roll of the Soviet Union's KGB?

From the Breitbart article:
Soldiers were told the list came from the Department of Homeland Security
The second thing is, he’s going to handle the investigation by sending it over to the DHS,” the source said.
but that I could possibly be detained and then put under investigation by the Department of Homeland Security,” the source added.


History.com: KGB (https://www.history.com/topics/russia/kgb)
The KGB was the primary security agency for the Soviet Union from 1954 until its collapse in 1991. The KGB served a multi-faceted role outside of and within the Soviet Union, working as both an intelligence agency and a force of “secret police.” It was also tasked with some of the same functions as the Department of Homeland Security in the United States today, safeguarding the country from domestic and foreign threats.
Its primary role within Russia and the satellite republics of the Soviet Union was to quell dissent, by first identifying dissidents promoting anti-Communist political and/or religious ideas and then silencing them. To perform this task, KGB agents often used extremely violent means.

Indeed, the KGB’s primary domestic function was to protect the leaders of the Communist Party within the Soviet Union, and thus maintain political order.

Old Dog New Trick
02-05-2021, 13:07
I don’t know anyone by the name COL Mike Henry MD, but he sounds like someone who was brought up by Stanley McCrystal, Kurt Sonntag, or some of the other JFK center Obama era leaders that destroyed what was once the worlds best fighting force.

It sounds like he spoke from the cuff and went against JFKSWCS guidance on the matter before anything official had actually come down. The new SecDef wasn’t even named when he came out and said all this BS. Not saying that something had come down since the military vetting of NG members had started already in Wash DC. Either way, and only speculation on my part, this is not a very popular or informative presentation produced by or for the DHS from the FBI (SPLC / Anti-Defimation League.) The other parts that are [hopefully] missing from the Breitbart article are the parts that deal with OMG’s, Gang Membership and MS-13 tattoos, hand gestures and other identifiers. Which BTW was a document created before I retired in 2002, so nothing new here just a renewed awareness with updates from the ever prescient FBI/JTTF.

If someone’s career is terminated because they have a Gadson flag, Scull and Crossbones, or III% patch on their backpack in a social media picture taken before 1/6 then we really have gone down the rabbit hole to the point where anything is possible and I would be very very concerned about the future of those currently elected/promoted through whichever means they attained that position. As I said, keep poking that bear...McVeigh-Nichols were complete amateurs by comparison to the new class of warriors that have spent their entire life since exiting high school thus far fighting terrorist and enemy soldiers in far away places these past 19-years at the behest of their government. Those psychological wounds run deep and make people do things they otherwise would not have done if the respect they were shown was still celebrated on the Fourth of July every year, the eleventh of November and the last Monday in May.

P.S. This is the J. Napolitano update to DHS that created the idea that returning white soldiers would become domestic terrorist. Never mind all those other people that have committed “Workplace Violence” or a “Hate Crime” (whatever that is.) Never let a crises go to waste!

JGC2
02-05-2021, 14:31
I don’t know anyone by the name COL Mike Henry MD, but he sounds like someone who was brought up by Stanley McCrystal, Kurt Sonntag, or some of the other JFK center Obama era leaders that destroyed what was once the worlds best fighting force.

It sounds like he spoke from the cuff and went against JFKSWCS guidance on the matter before anything official had actually come down. The new SecDef wasn’t even named when he came out and said all this BS. Not saying that something had come down since the military vetting of NG members had started already in Wash DC. Either way, and only speculation on my part, this is not a very popular or informative presentation produced by or for the DHS from the FBI (SPLC / Anti-Defimation League.) The other parts that are [hopefully] missing from the Breitbart article are the parts that deal with OMG’s, Gang Membership and MS-13 tattoos, hand gestures and other identifiers. Which BTW was a document created before I retired in 2002, so nothing new here just a renewed awareness with updates from the ever prescient FBI/JTTF.

If someone’s career is terminated because they have a Gadson flag, Scull and Crossbones, or III% patch on their backpack in a social media picture taken before 1/6 then we really have gone down the rabbit hole to the point where anything is possible and I would be very very concerned about the future of those currently elected/promoted through whichever means they attained that position. As I said, keep poking that bear...McVeigh-Nichols were complete amateurs by comparison to the new class of warriors that have spent their entire life since exiting high school thus far fighting terrorist and enemy soldiers in far away places these past 19-years at the behest of their government. Those psychological wounds run deep and make people do things they otherwise would not have done if the respect they were shown was still celebrated on the Fourth of July every year, the eleventh of November and the last Monday in May.

P.S. This is the J. Napolitano update to DHS that created the idea that returning white soldiers would become domestic terrorist. Never mind all those other people that have committed “Workplace Violence” or a “Hate Crime” (whatever that is.) Never let a crises go to waste!

Well said. I could only laugh when I saw St. Michael on there, literally a patron Saint of the men sitting in front of this d-bag Colonel. I weep for the brave warriors who are treading water every day in this organization, and I weep for the legacy of those who gave the ultimate sacrifice in service to it.

Razor
02-05-2021, 15:53
Maybe we can solve this issue by taking photos of every servicemember's tattoos and cataloging them for later cross-reference against the list of symbols mentioned in the article. This approach seemed to work really well back in the mid to late 90s, you know. "Oh my God! Are those spiderweb tatts on that guy's elbows?" :rolleyes:

tom kelly
02-05-2021, 16:03
The CCP does not like the USA only some of there citizens are tolerated by the CCP like John Kerry, Joe Biden's handlers who they hand picked along with some in the deep state, communist John Brennan, and others. Point is this experiment on destroying the U S A and the citizens is going according to their plan. REMEMBER who gave the world the Wuhan Virus that the CCP's Maj. Gen. Chen Wi China's Top Bio-Weapons Expert P-4 lab in Wuhan genetically engineered this Coronea Virus to infect the world population and replace the U S A as the leader of everything economic, military, and social. The QP's here have been to Robin Sage does the past years events remind you why the G-force was in play at Pineland ?

Joker
02-05-2021, 16:17
Maybe we can solve this issue by taking photos of every servicemember's tattoos and cataloging them for later cross-reference against the list of symbols mentioned in the article. This approach seemed to work really well back in the mid to late 90s, you know. "Oh my God! Are those spiderweb tatts on that guy's elbows?" :rolleyes:

As well as for any future articles and PowerPoint slides...:mad: I have no tats, but boy am I glad I'm retired.

NurseTim
02-05-2021, 16:41
Has Department of Homeland Security (DHS) taken on the roll of the Soviet Union's KGB?

From the Breitbart article:





History.com: KGB (https://www.history.com/topics/russia/kgb)

When “homeland security” came into existence my mind rushed to nazi Germany. I knew it was a bad thing. KGB registered minimally, now it’s in the forefront of my thoughts.

EricV
02-05-2021, 17:38
Maybe the military will do away with rank...

https://www.revolver.news/2021/02/bidens-new-woke-military-has-a-model-in-maos-china/

There is a frightening precedent for all of this: The darkest days of Mao’s China.

After the Communist victory in the Chinese Civil War, Marshal Peng Dehuai was the country’s first defense minister. Although a committed Communist, Peng was also a professional soldier committed to building a strong People’s Liberation Army. Peng introduced a proper rank system, promoted skilled commanders rather than Communist political apparatchiks, emphasized discipline and proper training, and opposed the growing personality cult centered on Mao Zedong.

But Peng’s professionalism and independence were his downfall. In 1959, Peng was politically isolated and then removed by Mao, who replaced him with the more firmly loyal Lin Biao. Where Peng was committed to the PLA’s professionalism, Lin was the exact opposite. He undid many of Peng’s useful reforms, solely for political reasons. Rank was abolished as a capitalist artifact. Commanders seen as too friendly to the USSR or insufficiently loyal to Mao were purged. Instead of focusing on military matters, about forty percent of a soldier’s time was spent on political matters, being indoctrinated in the arcana of Maoism. Quotations from Chairman Mao Tse-Tung, the infamous Little Red Book that became the world’s best-selling non-religious book, began as a text Lin issued for PLA personnel. Eventually, the PLA’s indoctrination efforts led to it being labeled the “great school of Mao Zedong Thought,” and its methods were promoted within the civilian bureaucracy and wider Chinese society.

A 1964 recruitment guide illustrated how decisively politics governed Lin’s management of the army:

The selection of grass-roots cadres must guarantee that those born to the families of workers, poor peasants and lower-middle peasants form the majority. It should be guaranteed that about 90 per cent of soldiers selected for promotion to cadres [who] are to be sent to schools come from these three categories of families. No one from the exploiting classes may be selected. In two or three years, those from these three categories of families should make up more than 80 per cent of all grass-roots cadres. When enrolling young students from society to train (as cadres), no one from the exploiting classes can be admitted. When accepting graduates from the civilian universities and colleges, about 90 per cent must come from the laboring classes. Those top secret units are not allowed to accept a single individual from the exploiting classes. [Kondapalli 1999]

LongWire
02-05-2021, 17:43
Maybe we can solve this issue by taking photos of every servicemember's tattoos and cataloging them for later cross-reference against the list of symbols mentioned in the article. This approach seemed to work really well back in the mid to late 90s, you know. "Oh my God! Are those spiderweb tatts on that guy's elbows?" :rolleyes:

That was already done briefly in the last decade.

Badger52
02-07-2021, 05:55
P.S. This is the J. Napolitano update to DHS that created the idea that returning white soldiers would become domestic terrorist. Never mind all those other people that have committed “Workplace Violence” or a “Hate Crime” (whatever that is.) Never let a crises go to waste!Retired in '13 and, with an add'l duty as our rep to the Force Protection cell at the garrison level, I can tell you that the dikta from Napolitano's "Ghost of McVeigh" tome was still in use at the time. This stuff doesn't get File-13'd because they still find it useful.

I think it was Beria that said "show me the man I'll show you the crime."

JGC2
02-08-2021, 10:47
Maybe we can solve this issue by taking photos of every servicemember's tattoos and cataloging them for later cross-reference against the list of symbols mentioned in the article. This approach seemed to work really well back in the mid to late 90s, you know. "Oh my God! Are those spiderweb tatts on that guy's elbows?" :rolleyes:

The Regiment did this in 2014 as well.

Uman
02-08-2021, 22:57
https://www.history.navy.mil/browse-by-topic/heritage/banners/usnavy-jack.html

enemies love purges

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/reboot/stalins-massive-military-purge-almost-doomed-soviet-union-170202

JimP
02-09-2021, 07:57
Ya'll remember back at Bragg (early 90's..??) where all the white dudes, JUST the white dudes had to fall out in formation, strip and be searched for tattoos?? Yeah....my. how things come around.

TOMAHAWK9521
02-09-2021, 09:40
I recall being down in CO Springs while assigned to NORTHCOM and looking at moving there permanently. That was right about the time when the 4th ID was moving in, en masse. During a conversation with my realtor, he brought up the issues associated with allocating housing for all the incoming families and dependents. The most significant issue was influx of crime. Apparently CID and area Law Enforcement agencies were troubled by the fact that over 4,000 known criminal/gang actors were among those dependents. I was stunned. 4K just with that unit?!! :eek: I truly doubt any of those 4K were 3-percenters or Oath Keepers.

Flagg
02-09-2021, 12:07
Maybe the military will do away with rank...

https://www.revolver.news/2021/02/bidens-new-woke-military-has-a-model-in-maos-china/

[I]There is a frightening precedent for all of this: The darkest days of Mao’s China.



https://www.history.navy.mil/browse-by-topic/heritage/banners/usnavy-jack.html

enemies love purges

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/reboot/stalins-massive-military-purge-almost-doomed-soviet-union-170202

Stalin’s Soviet and Mao’s PLA examples are both worth reading about.

Both were overwhelmingly about regime continuity at the considerable expense of capable combat capacity and leadership.

The former(Stalin’s Soviet) example led to catastrophic failure in offensive(Finland) and defensive(nazi invasion of Russia proper) combat operations.

Perhaps the most troubling is the German effort to accelerate/amplify the Soviet purge seeding false information with Stalin thru Czechoslovakia.

While the effort may have been of dubious value, it would not be particularly difficult for foreign powers to detect and attempt to disparage the most capable US combat commanders via an extreme right wing cancel culture campaign.

Cost/benefit analysis would be a no-brainer and ROI would likely be quite high in this environment,

Remington Raidr
02-09-2021, 12:58
what WOULD Stalin do? Hey! I know, we can crank up zampolits (political officers) for platoon level and up. Snitches with rank, they would monitor thought and deed for right-wing, non-woke thinking. We HAVE to . . . to save democracy!:rolleyes:

Florida Patriot
02-09-2021, 16:33
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/02/04/exclusive-special-forces-warned-against-using-pepe-the-frog-iiiers-other-extremist-symbols/?fbclid=IwAR21_1KFlXbu1sO99cNnX1y6-sjYfqOM-tAIcLcDFbBSfI5t4rISTr0KKAI

Is the Army also against blm and antifa?
So....if you are opposed to ever increasing BigFed intrusions and power and don’t believe sodomy is a natural function, you are an enemy of the state?

Sign me up! (Sarcasm)

Box
02-09-2021, 22:05
I wonder if changing your voter registration to "D" will buy you any time....

Joker
02-09-2021, 22:09
I wonder if changing your voter registration to "D" will buy you any time....

If you do that you will be appointed to a Deputy Assistant Secretary or higher position within the week... :D

Box
02-10-2021, 07:31
If you do that you will be appointed to a Deputy Assistant Secretary or higher position within the week... :D

I certainly dont want that - I'll guess just claim "Independent" it seems to work well for uncle bernie

Sohei
02-10-2021, 07:34
I certainly dont want that - I'll guess just claim "Independent" it seems to work well for uncle bernie

But, as one who has truly converted...you would be entitled to your yearly renewable "Above the Law" card which would allow you to openly break all manner of laws with impunity, but only once per card per year....

bblhead672
02-10-2021, 09:49
But, as one who has truly converted...you would be entitled to your yearly renewable "Above the Law" card which would allow you to openly break all manner of laws with impunity, but only once per card per year....

Obviously though, as a "D" you are entitled to have as many fraudulent "Above the Law" cards as you want.

pcfixer
02-14-2021, 12:46
Obviously though, as a "D" you are entitled to have as many fraudulent "Above the Law" cards as you want.

Yep, another method of being stigmatized by race, color, religion or now political party. Yes, also being censored is another term.


Jan 19, 2021 · “It’s called the dissociative disorder, questioning of identity. And the bottom line is, all of America needs deprogramming because we’ve all been negatively influenced by Donald Trump,” said Hassan, a mental health counselor and author of “Cult of Trump.” (RELATED: CNN’s ‘Reliable Sources’ Guest Warns Viewers That Trump Supporters Are Part Of A ‘Destructive Cult’)

Jan 22, 2021 · Every time former CIA Director John Brennan appears on cable news to warn America about some new "insidious threat to democracy," I am reminded again that he deserves to be in federal prison.

Where are we going from here? :rolleyes:

tom kelly
02-14-2021, 13:36
HELL NO; Johnny needs the Vince Foster, Seth Rich, William Colby Solution to the problem....Gone Baby Gone....