View Full Version : When does Tulsi Gabbard declare herself a Republican?
Old Dog New Trick
01-26-2021, 23:17
At what point in this whole sorted mess, does Tulsi Gabbard the Democrat from Hawaii and a member of the National Guard who served in multiple tours in the Middle East, declare herself no longer a member of the Socialist Democratic Party currently running the country?
I have no faith or support for Tammy Duckworth or many other faithfuls in the party of “me” but...
What do you say, comments and opinions welcome.
Maybe it's a disguise, she's representing Hawaii so maybe she has to run as a dem to win....??? :p
Maybe it's a disguise, she's representing Hawaii so maybe she has to run as a dem to win....??? :p
That could be a reality. I know of two politicians at the local and state level here that did that very thing. In fact, they *changed* to Democratic to run. Conservative all day long, but Democrat on paper. Politics are true theater....
Ret10Echo
01-27-2021, 06:52
Maybe it's a disguise, she's representing Hawaii so maybe she has to run as a dem to win....??? :p
She's no longer in office....
I think our ridiculous and corrupt (illegal) 2-party PAC system forces people to make a choice in order to get money....
A majority are centrist
The fact that Gabbard's presidential bid was attacked and destroyed by her own party is quite interesting
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NurseTim
01-27-2021, 13:45
When she supports the 2nd amendment, wholly, and without restrictions. When she works for the repeal of the 1934 NFA, the 1968 NFA, AND, the Reagan 1986 weapons ban.
She doesn’t need to make it her priority, but she should support the whole 2nd amendment.
She is a left wing democrat - she just happens to be a left wing democrat that was willing to call Obama on his refusal to say "Islamic Extremism"
Her foreign policy is all over the map - loves to demand that someone do something - wails and protests when we shoot someone.
She protested the Dakota pipeline - she has nefarious positions on the 2nd Amendment.
People are amazed because she has actually stood by her feelings on free speech. Democrats usually wail about it until they are in a position to suppress it.
Make no mistakes she is a liberal. Its a sign of the times when we can look at such a democrat and think "she's almost a republican"
I would opine she may lean to the right of her party, she is still less republican than the ever virtuous senator from Youtall - Milt Robney
not by much but still...........
bblhead672
01-27-2021, 14:33
She is a left wing democrat - she just happens to be a left wing democrat that was willing to call Obama on his refusal to say "Islamic Extremism"
Her foreign policy is all over the map - loves to demand that someone do something - wails and protests when we shoot someone.
She protested the Dakota pipeline - she has nefarious positions on the 2nd Amendment.
People are amazed because she has actually stood by her feelings on free speech. Democrats usually wail about it until they are in a position to suppress it.
Make no mistakes she is a liberal. Its a sign of the times when we can look at such a democrat and think "she's almost a republican"
I would opine she may lean to the right of her party, she is still less republican than the ever virtuous senator from Youtall - Milt Robney
not by much but still...........
Hell, in the current mindset of the elite, she could be classified as a right wing extremist. As I saw somewhere today, they think anyone to the right of Lenin and Marx is a right wing extremist.
WarriorDiplomat
01-27-2021, 20:26
I am of the opinion that Tulsi has gotten more comfortable and less overwhelmed by politics. She was talking the party line at first but it seems she is maturing into the job and has had her eyes opened to the evils of the left. The fact that she has chsracterize the radicals as the totalitarians/fascist they are is promising. She is more liberal thab leftist and it seems more center left than liberal. We must keep in mind that Hawaii is hardcorps Democrat and if she is deviating from what the Hawaii constituents she will have to pull them center or run on the hot agenda of the Dems. there which is globalist....OR leave her home state.
I am not hard right in many areas I am liberal and in others Center R.....Centrist if I had to choose 1 word.. time will tell as dhe sits in office and votes on bills.
Ret10Echo
01-27-2021, 21:50
She is a left wing democrat - she just happens to be a left wing democrat that was willing to call Obama on his refusal to say "Islamic Extremism"
Her foreign policy is all over the map - loves to demand that someone do something - wails and protests when we shoot someone.
She protested the Dakota pipeline - she has nefarious positions on the 2nd Amendment.
People are amazed because she has actually stood by her feelings on free speech. Democrats usually wail about it until they are in a position to suppress it.
Make no mistakes she is a liberal. Its a sign of the times when we can look at such a democrat and think "she's almost a republican"
I would opine she may lean to the right of her party, she is still less republican than the ever virtuous senator from Youtall - Milt Robney
not by much but still...........
Box.. You lost me on the Dakota pipeline - 2nd Amendment statement... I'm assuming two different issues.
I'll also challenge you on immediate fall-back to the (illegal and bullshit) two party system.
What if (Fucking OMG) someone chose to have an opinion outside of or that wasn't pure to the structure?
Isn't that what you're all about? Or is it all about the parenthetical?
I am of the opinion that Tulsi has gotten more comfortable and less overwhelmed by politics. She was talking the party line at first but it seems she is maturing into the job and has had her eyes opened to the evils of the left. The fact that she has chsracterize the radicals as the totalitarians/fascist they are is promising. She is more liberal thab leftist and it seems more center left than liberal. We must keep in mind that Hawaii is hardcorps Democrat and if she is deviating from what the Hawaii constituents she will have to pull them center or run on the hot agenda of the Dems. there which is globalist....OR leave her home state.
I am not hard right in many areas I am liberal and in others Center R.....Centrist if I had to choose 1 word.. time will tell as dhe sits in office and votes on bills.
She left the office, she is not in congress.
WarriorDiplomat
01-27-2021, 23:38
She left the office, she is not in congress.
Good point....I forgot she did run for a chance at the POTUS
My point on maturation in the political world still stands...I think she came into politics idealistic and was overwhelmed at first she has since had a chance to breathe and look at her party more objectively.....she does not seem to be OK with the socialist direction we are going
ODNT. I certainly would not trust here one bit. One may say she is a turn coat. :munchin
WDMy point on maturation in the political world still stands...I think she came into politics idealistic and was overwhelmed at first she has since had a chance to breathe and look at her party more objectively.....she does not seem to be OK with the socialist direction we are going
I agree, I have watch her moves for the past few years. My thinking was POTUS in the OS school of Southern Democrat, social liberal, but a financial conservative. Also, her service is a heavy plus, she knows the real cost.
If there is to be a first women, elected by the people, that can express her ethnic heritage as a true advantage +1, if that person took the oath and sign the dotted line +1, if that person has shown a sense pf pragmatic growth. I'm pricing saddles.
Box.. You lost me on the Dakota pipeline - 2nd Amendment statement... I'm assuming two different issues.
I'll also challenge you on immediate fall-back to the (illegal and bullshit) two party system.
What if (Fucking OMG) someone chose to have an opinion outside of or that wasn't pure to the structure?
Isn't that what you're all about? Or is it all about the parenthetical?
Dakota pipeline and 2d just two different issues - poor sentence structure on my part lumped them together.
The fall-back on the two party system by suggesting that she has to be either democrat or republican was more to illustrate an earlier comment that her seemingly overt break with the increasingly radicalized democrat party might suggest that she was slowly morphing into a republican.
The root of my post was meant to highlight that people seem fascinated with Tulsi Gabbard because she chose to have an opinion outside of mainstream democratic circles. Again - poor word choice on my part.
Old Dog New Trick
01-28-2021, 10:50
I actually wish she had stayed in the House and after all the election dust settled she simply switched party affiliations like that guy in New Jersey - who BTW got re-elected as a Republican in a strong Democratic town. I guess the town still liked him.
P.S. I don’t like the two party situation any better than the next person who is not a “Republican” or an “Democrat” and since “liberals” are now centrists again maybe I can go back to calling myself a conservative libertarian without being lumped into a niche group of voters who don’t ‘identify’ as “Independent.”
My only reason to start the thread was that she keeps coming further out against her “party’s” hard left direction and calling a spade a spade now more so then since she ran as a centrist liberal. And, yes Box, her foreign policy objectives showed just how un-electable she was, but I’d rather have her in the WH than either of the two there now.
Plus, have you seen her in a bikini?
I actually wish she had stayed in the House and after all the election dust settled she simply switched party affiliations like that guy in New Jersey - who BTW got re-elected as a Republican in a strong Democratic town. I guess the town still liked him.
P.S. I don’t like the two party situation any better than the next person who is not a “Republican” or an “Democrat” and since “liberals” are now centrists again maybe I can go back to calling myself a conservative libertarian without being lumped into a niche group of voters who don’t ‘identify’ as “Independent.”
My only reason to start the thread was that she keeps coming further out against her “party’s” hard left direction and calling a spade a spade now more so then since she ran as a centrist liberal. And, yes Box, her foreign policy objectives showed just how un-electable she was, but I’d rather have her in the WH than either of the two there now.
Plus, have you seen her in a bikini?
I’m definitely a fan of Tulsi Gabbard.
However, I strongly disagree with her on a few quite important issues that cannot be overlooked or neglected.
So I see her as a “least bad” Democrat and I think she is worthy of trust(outside of a few key issues).
I really appreciated Tulsi’s singlehanded destruction of Kamala Harris’s primary run last year.
I suspect Tulsi’s strategy, after seeing so many deplatformed on social, is to build her attack array via podcasting.
Podcasting is far more distributed and decentralised than centralised big tech platforms. It’s really really hard to deplatform a successful podcast.
And Tulsi has a great friendship/relationship with podcasting giant Joe Rogan to help build her own audience.
IE: Ayatollah Khomeini gained much of his influence in the Shah’s corrupt Iran despite SAVAK efforts via copied cassette tapes for long form listening.
So I think it’s going to be well worth keeping an eye on Tulsl’s podcasting reach and engagement over time.
Podcasting could really become vital ground in the political fight ahead.
As a bad surfer and Pacifika resident myself, I have to admit I certainly don’t dislike Tulsi’s aroha/aloha of surfing and healthy living/well-being!
In fact, I think it would be a great idea if she did some video content with political guests sitting on boards past the break. :)
I don’t know what to think of her viability as a candidate in 2024, but at a minimum she is a legit and powerful influence on those in the middle of the political spectrum.
I wish her luck in the next 4 years and really hope she sees the light on a few major policy issues.
tom kelly
01-28-2021, 13:59
I actually wish she had stayed in the House and after all the election dust settled she simply switched party affiliations like that guy in New Jersey - who BTW got re-elected as a Republican in a strong Democratic town. I guess the town still liked him.
P.S. I don’t like the two party situation any better than the next person who is not a “Republican” or an “Democrat” and since “liberals” are now centrists again maybe I can go back to calling myself a conservative libertarian without being lumped into a niche group of voters who don’t ‘identify’ as “Independent.”
My only reason to start the thread was that she keeps coming further out against her “party’s” hard left direction and calling a spade a spade now more so then since she ran as a centrist liberal. And, yes Box, her foreign policy objectives showed just how un-electable she was, but I’d rather have her in the WH than either of the two there now.
Plus, have you seen her in a bikini? WHERE ARE THE PHOTOS ? Once I see the product, I might engage her philosophy & social thinking....see where my mind & thoughts are headed....
Flagg, what are your concerns?
WHERE ARE THE PHOTOS ? Once I see the product, I might engage her philosophy & social thinking....see where my mind & thoughts are headed....
This album popped up.
https://imgur.com/gallery/RAlSRaR
Seems like a mixed Promo/PR album.
Starts with some surf photos....mostly in sporty rashguard or springsuit, the same go to uniform for the surfie girls I saw out on my beach today.
She may not be a competitive level surfie, but she is definitely legit and not just doing it for optics.
Flagg, what are your concerns?
To me, 2A is critical. Tulsi needs to adjust her position on 2A.
Universal health care is what Tulsi supports. I don’t think government can “fix” it. I would be leaning towards cheaper/easier access to both limited primary/preventative care as well as limited catastrophic insurance cover for all.
Tulsi’s position on free community college and free 4 year college for everyone under $125k sounds nice, but maybe just allow those with student debt to declare it in bankruptcy again like prior to 2006?
I bet schools will suddenly offer much better value for dollar if their accounts receivable is no longer government guaranteed, and can be written off in bankruptcy.
Tulsi needs to articulate her tax policy, very nebulous with no depth.
But I do agree with, or align close enough, on most of her policy issues.
And I trust her(so far).
Back in 2008 on another forum I joked around about a counter-candidate to President Obama.
Without being disrespectful, I believe then Senator and now former President Obama was “manufactured” akin to how you have to manufacture a football team to go to the Super Bowl. You have a limited window to make it all come together and it worked.
I joked that the perfect Republican candidate would be a 40+ year old, mixed ethnicity(latina), female, attractive optics, veteran, small-business owner, socially liberal, fiscal conservative, pro 2A gun owner, who scares the crap out of hard left liberals, illegal immigrants, and the NRA like Mohammed Ali scared black folks in the 60’s speaking uncomfortable truth.
Tulsi is somewhat close.
2A, party, and small business running I got wrong, with a few things still on the fence. But she certainly makes for a somewhat attack proof thorn in the side of Democrats.
I’ll be watching and listening to Tulsi closely the next few years.
With long-form podcasting, it will be very hard for her to avoid taking positions and building a “just in time” candidate built on aspirational “hope”.
Hopefully she continues to grow her attack array and evolves on a few of her positions.
Ret10Echo
01-29-2021, 07:59
Here is a look back on the clown-car of candidates going into the 2020 cycle.
Bernie is not pictured because he's so far north of Liberal that it didn't make sense to include that in the image.
Gabbard is in the center scrum....along with Biden. Klamata is classified as most liberal short of the Bern
Business Insider is from what I can tell, a fairly neutral platform.
tom kelly
01-29-2021, 12:40
I saw the photos, air-brushed & some photo shopped. Overall, in her 20's & early 30's attractive & nice figure. In person looks older now @ 40 yrs; face shows show's past scarring on cheeks probably teen acne skin condition. Nice person, easy to converse with, states her opinions, not overbearing, condescending and insufferable.
^^^^^ your review sounds like you are placing an ad...:D
Badger52
01-29-2021, 19:34
^^^^^ your review sounds like you are placing an ad...:DThere are RINOs that don't have those qualifications. The party could swap Romney for her maybe. But that's all theoretical. That elephant is, as Hemingway would say, "well and truly" dead. They are not a way forward.
I guess that she's a DINO.
Badger52
01-30-2021, 06:51
I guess that she's a DINO.:D
Today. Tulsi Gabbard: The Attorney General is weaponizing federal agencies to intimidate Americans into compliance
https://www.foxnews.com/media/tulsi-gabbard-ag-weaponizing-federal-agencies-to-intimidate-americans-compliance
And the reality is that, as you know, very well, whether we disagree or agree with each other, whether our speech is quiet or obnoxious, our speech is protected by the First Amendment. It's something that I, as a soldier and as a member of Congress, took an oath to support and defend the Constitution. And I may hate the speech that you say. I may completely disagree with it, but I will lay down my life to protect your right to say it.
I think she's pretty hot. That's my opinion.
WarriorDiplomat
10-08-2021, 20:34
She is a left wing democrat - she just happens to be a left wing democrat that was willing to call Obama on his refusal to say "Islamic Extremism"
Her foreign policy is all over the map - loves to demand that someone do something - wails and protests when we shoot someone.
She protested the Dakota pipeline - she has nefarious positions on the 2nd Amendment.
People are amazed because she has actually stood by her feelings on free speech. Democrats usually wail about it until they are in a position to suppress it.
Make no mistakes she is a liberal. Its a sign of the times when we can look at such a democrat and think "she's almost a republican"
I would opine she may lean to the right of her party, she is still less republican than the ever virtuous senator from Youtall - Milt Robney
not by much but still...........
Exactly right....leftism is a game of inches and feet they gain 4 inches then lose a foot then gain 4 inches then lose a foot then gain 4 inches....at the end of the day they never lose but always gaining inches. Leftism historically has always come to take over societies in the same manner until it self destructs.....every generation is farther left including the right until the left is far left the left is center and the right is liberal....just change the definition of left and right.....the current definition and tradition of left vs right wing was based off the late 1700s French Monarchy however by the traditional definition the left is actually right wing adhering to fascism, totalitarianism and communist while the right is left wing which sought freedom from tyranny.
WarriorDiplomat
10-08-2021, 20:40
I guess that she's a DINO.
She is a 90s early 2000s Democrat liberal not really a committed leftistt we have to give her time to realize the Democrats are thoroughly evil not partially evil....growing up in a leftist stronghold of Hawaii isolated to the island with little exposure to true conservative not the version she grew up learning
WHERE ARE THE PHOTOS ? Once I see the product, I might engage her philosophy & social thinking....see where my mind & thoughts are headed....
Best I could find, Sorry
:munchin
pic deleted :[
Best I could find, Sorry
:munchin
https://www.lajolla.com/news/tulsi-gabbard-bikini-photos-cause-quite-a-stir/
"Not guilty."
tom kelly
10-09-2021, 23:50
Best I could find, Sorry
:munchin
https://www.lajolla.com/news/tulsi-gabbard-bikini-photos-cause-quite-a-stir/
She looks great in those photos ! However, I am guessing that they are a younger, version of the 40 year old Tulsi Gabbard of today...
Less caked on makeup photo's of Tulsi day to day.
Not as fit and trim now she is getting older, look a normal American in sheep clothing.
Best I could find, Sorry
:munchin
https://www.lajolla.com/news/tulsi-gabbard-bikini-photos-cause-quite-a-stir/
Hate to tell you that is Padma Lakshmi the Chef……. It is not Tulsi Gabbard…..
Hate to tell you that is Padma Lakshmi the Chef……. It is not Tulsi Gabbard…..
Thank you for clearing that up, some fake news is not all bad.
Old Dog New Trick
10-11-2022, 06:39
I guess that’s today. :)
Tulsi Gabbard finally woke up and had had enough!
https://apple.news/AND2BXWvrRi6_vMnkLRUmDw
(Course she been a regular on FOX for quite awhile now talking about the direction of the Democratic Party and how it’s gotten off track.)
She should run again as a Republican for her district!
It will be interesting to see what her podcast produces for sound-bytes in the closing weeks of the 2022 midterm elections.
I'd say its worth noting that she seems to have deliberately withheld comments that would verify that she "left" the democrats to become a republican. She is a skilled orator that made a point of appealing to "common sense independent-minded Democrats" which means she isn't done talking about her departure just yet...
...she was a Bernie supporter.
...she ended her campaign to endorse Lesko Brandon
...she was the DNC's vice chair for several years
...she is a fan of ending cash bail for criminals
...she is a fan of legalizing recreational drug use
...she talks big but still supports relaxing immigration laws
...she's a pipeline protestor
...she's a green new deal fan that wants to end fossil fuel use
...she spouts a position, then apologizes and changes it when the party scolds her
Of course, now that she ISNT an elected politician, she has reaffirmed her desire to "speak truth to power"
...just in time to expand her following and build support for her new podcast.
I've built such an absolute distrust of politicians, that I tend to view everything they say and do with suspicion, cynicism, and disbelief.
She "left" a party that is the exact same party now that it has been for the last 150 years. What changed?
Other than her podcast?
Good for her for seeking some spotlight - good for her for calling out that which has needed calling out for several generations - otherwise, she's just another out of work politician trying to pay her bills.
Pfft.
She's a gun grabber too, as I recall.
mark46th
10-11-2022, 19:24
We can hope for the best from her but i wouldn't trust her any further than I can throw her to be a real conservative....
She's a Siren. Listen if you must, but tie yourself to the mast first.
Her father is an anti-same sex marriage Hawaiian Republican State Senator. Not sure how their family luaus go.
She's a Siren. Listen if you must, but tie yourself to the mast first.
Her father is an anti-same sex marriage Hawaiian Republican State Senator. Not sure how their family luaus go.
When she was "young" and trying to get into polyticks - she had no problems helping daddy bash gayness.
Then she found the democratic party.
Then she changed her mind.
Then she changed it back.
Then she apologized and re-changed her opinion.
She talks about 'the 2nd' but voted against CCW legislation when she had the chance. She used a photo op to show herself running a semiautomtic pistol with a high capacity magazine but supports legislation that would keep "you" from having high capacity magazines. Just another militician using her uniform to help advance her profitability.
She talks about "principles" but voted "present" during a presidential impeachment proceeding.
The single most important thing a politician will EVER do while serving the nation as an elected representative - ATTEMPT TO FIRE THE PRESIDENT - and she couldn't be bothered to take a stand. At least Mittens had the ovaries to proudly own the right to being the first senator in US history to vote to impeach his parties president. Gabbard voted "present"
How very Obama of her.