DC Guard activated

[JJ_BPK]

Is the DC Guard an Infantry unit or what?

They look to need some time at Nasty Nick's Playground and Jungle Gym??

Also, How did the number grow from 2,700 to 20K?


Today’s D.C. National Guard remains strong with more than 2,700 Soldiers and Airmen available to execute its missions. D.C. National Guard Soldiers and Airmen resides within the District of Columbia, Maryland and Virginia, and are proud to be from the communities in which we protect and serve.
The D.C National Guard was formed in 1802 by President Thomas Jefferson to defend the newly created District of Columbia. As such, the Commanding General of the D.C. National Guard is subordinate solely to the President of the United States. This authority to activate the D.C. National Guard has been delegated, by the President, to the Secretary of Defense and further delegated to the Secretary of the Army. The D.C. National Guard is the only National Guard unit, out of all of the 54 states and territories, which reports only to the President.



Hopefully, Joe will keep the rioters placated and they will go home none the worse for wear.

This inauguration reminds me of the 1972 Democratic & Republican Conventions in Miami.
My unit C/3/20th SFG(a) was invited to attend.
We were billeted (hidden) in grade schools for each convention.
One was on Key Biscane, a block from Nixon's Florida Whitehouse :D

[sg1987]

2,700 for security, 17,300 are for the parade.....

[Pete]

Critics warn National Guard lacks exit strategy for presidential inauguration

The Duffel Blog strikes again

https://www.duffelblog.com/p/critics-warn-national-guard-lacks?token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjoxMTcxMjY3OCwicG9zdF9pZC I6MzE1MDk2ODcsIl8iOiJGUE83QyIsImlhdCI6MTYxMDczOTc2 MiwiZXhwIjoxNjEwNzQzMzYyLCJpc3MiOiJwdWItMTAxNjE5Ii wic3ViIjoicG9zdC1yZWFjdGlvbiJ9.vOI4QvKBlPpEY1pC7mT u18TeVjGq-YIcbmqISzgrsFQ

"WASHINGTON — More than 20,000 national guardsmen are expected to deploy to the nation’s capital to provide additional security during President-elect Joe Biden’s inauguration on Jan. 20, but critics warn the National Guard appears to lack an exit strategy.

“We have no metric for what success looks like,” said one high ranking officer. “Is it an hour after the man is sworn in? Is it when the protesters have all left? We just don’t know.”

The ongoing military campaigns in Afghanistan and Iraq have left many questioning if this deployment to Washington has a defined objective or could be instead a so-called “Forever Civil War.”......."

:D

[Golf1echo]

Let’s hope no one whispers Anwar El Sadat into the Big Guys ear just before the ceremony.

[Old Dog New Trick]

If only the “President” has the authority to activate them...?

[bblhead672]

Saw a CBS News video of razor wire being installed on the fence around the Capitol. Strangely, it was being installed on the inside of the fence.
Also the video showed a bunch of NG guys standing around with their rifles equipped with ACOGs and no magazines loaded. At least they all were indexing their trigger finger....

Another site said that by next week the number will be up to 30,000. That's gonna need a long logistics train.

[bblhead672]

Let’s hope no one whispers Anwar El Sadat into the Big Guys ear just before the ceremony.

Gropey Joe would probably say "Oh yeah I loved her in that Wonder Woman movie."

[JimP]

$Bill Clinton, when he "reduced the size government," did so on the backs of cutting the active force. He put the combat power of the Army into the Guard, and the CS,CSS into the Reserves. Smart in one way in that if we ever MOB for a "war," the hometown goes and gets immediate support. That was part and parcel of his militant adventurism around the world with Madelain Albright (half-bright). Many of these places we are still stuck, a generation later.

It's unfair to the Guard as they have to complete the individual, common, and collective tasks in 29 days for the year, wherein our active forces barely can get them done in 365 days. We can do EO/SHARP/suicide prevention/and security awareness training like crazy, but running a range or getting out and practicing killing our enemies..?? Not so much.

Not sure about the arming status of the Guard, but when we discussed it down here, if they are federalized (Title 10), the decision was made NOT to arm them (allow rounds). As usual, I think that a stupid decision. If it is dangerous enough to have the guard and require them to have weapons, they should have the rounds for the weapons. If the Brass doesn't "trust" their troops with live rounds, then the Brass should be relieved for failure to train their forces adequately.

[Old Dog New Trick]

$Bill Clinton,

Not sure about the arming status of the Guard, but when we discussed it down here, if they are federalized (Title 10), the decision was made NOT to arm them (allow rounds). As usual, I think that a stupid decision. If it is dangerous enough to have the guard and require them to have weapons, they should have the rounds for the weapons. If the Brass doesn't "trust" their troops with live rounds, then the Brass should be relieved for failure to train their forces adequately.

Not sure they would give some 20,000 plus patriots live ammo and allow them to be anywhere within range of any of the people in DC. That goes against everything the secret squirrels stand for. Just because you wear the uniform of a United States of America service member doesn’t automatically make you unequivocally loyal to the party in power or the party assuming power.

And if they did give them ammo they probably took all their firing pins or BCG.

ETA: If there is not a single AD/UD reported in the news over the deployment period...they don’t have ammo.

[Joker]

With congressional members making disparaging comments about their peers possibly bringing in weapons to attack them I would think that they would be even more critical of the NG who they don't know, trust, care about on any other day, and believe that they are white supremist.

[JJ_BPK]

Not sure they would give some 20,000 plus patriots live ammo and allow them to be anywhere within range of any of the people in DC. And if they did give them ammo they probably took all their firing pins or BCG.



Maybe congress doesn't trust them?


Congress Wants the Military to Report Extremism in the Ranks. Here's Why That Will Be Tough, 14 Sep 2019, Military.com | By Gina Harkins and Matthew Cox

Lawmakers want the military to explain how it's tracking dangerous ideologies in the ranks, including white supremacy and neo-Nazisim. But even as the problem grows more widespread, it's going to be difficult for leaders to spot and police, experts who spoke with Military.com warned.

A new mandate proposed by Senate appropriators, tucked into the $695 billion fiscal 2020 defense spending bill, would require the Defense Department to provide a report explaining how it's tracking extremist beliefs among those in uniform.


https://www.military.com/daily-news/2019/09/14/congress-wants-military-report-extremism-ranks-heres-why-will-be-tough.html




Sounds kinda like the reasoning for the Brown Shirts? :mad:

[Paslode]

Washington to see 'new normal' for security after Biden inauguration: DC mayor

“I think our entire country is going to have to deal with how our intelligence apparatus, security apparatus at every level deal with a very real and present threat to our nation.”


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-biden-inauguration-bowser/washington-to-see-new-normal-for-security-after-biden-inauguration-dc-mayor-idUSKBN29K2EM?edition-redirect=uk&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_axiospm&stream=top

[Razor]

No NG units have been Federalized thus far. A large number of units have brought small arms. A smaller number have been deputized in order to perform law enforcement-like activities in support of CPD and MPD. Several units have received issued ammo.

[cat in the hat]

With congressional members making disparaging comments about their peers possibly bringing in weapons to attack them I would think that they would be even more critical of the NG who they don't know, trust, care about on any other day, and believe that they are white supremist.

Mostly talking about Boebert. My understanding is that she is safe and reasonably competent shooter.
I would have enjoyed the optics of her standing her ground during the invasion and defending her 5' 100 pound self and a few lefties for good measure.

[cat in the hat]

$Bill Clinton, when he "reduced the size government," did so on the backs of cutting the active force. He put the combat power of the Army into the Guard, and the CS,CSS into the Reserves. Smart in one way in that if we ever MOB for a "war," the hometown goes and gets immediate support. That was part and parcel of his militant adventurism around the world with Madelain Albright (half-bright). Many of these places we are still stuck, a generation later.

It's unfair to the Guard as they have to complete the individual, common, and collective tasks in 29 days for the year, wherein our active forces barely can get them done in 365 days. We can do EO/SHARP/suicide prevention/and security awareness training like crazy, but running a range or getting out and practicing killing our enemies..?? Not so much.

Not sure about the arming status of the Guard, but when we discussed it down here, if they are federalized (Title 10), the decision was made NOT to arm them (allow rounds). As usual, I think that a stupid decision. If it is dangerous enough to have the guard and require them to have weapons, they should have the rounds for the weapons. If the Brass doesn't "trust" their troops with live rounds, then the Brass should be relieved for failure to train their forces adequately.

Another issue with the guard is the politics from state level. Many senior leaders get their positions based in something besides their competency.

And that leads to the sort of leader who puts troops in full battle rattle at attention so a politician can address them for a photo op.

[frostfire]

Praying n wishing for the NG for successful and safe execution of the mission

$Bill Clinton, when he "reduced the size government," did so on the backs of cutting the active force. He put the combat power of the Army into the Guard, and the CS,CSS into the Reserves. Smart in one way in that if we ever MOB for a "war," the hometown goes and gets immediate support. That was part and parcel of his militant adventurism around the world with Madelain Albright (half-bright). Many of these places we are still stuck, a generation later.

It's unfair to the Guard as they have to complete the individual, common, and collective tasks in 29 days for the year, wherein our active forces barely can get them done in 365 days. We can do EO/SHARP/suicide prevention/and security awareness training like crazy, but running a range or getting out and practicing killing our enemies..?? Not so much.

Not sure about the arming status of the Guard, but when we discussed it down here, if they are federalized (Title 10), the decision was made NOT to arm them (allow rounds). As usual, I think that a stupid decision. If it is dangerous enough to have the guard and require them to have weapons, they should have the rounds for the weapons. If the Brass doesn't "trust" their troops with live rounds, then the Brass should be relieved for failure to train their forces adequately.

You just gave me ptsd as I flashback to....

There I was...
Got the marksmanship team to give few days of solid coaching
Spent $$$ to get civilian SME to give solid commo training w the latest gear

All cut short :( to complete trans training an walk around in jeans
O’s legacies :boohoo

[tom kelly]

Have family members in the NG, They are GOOD PEOPLE, however, they & probably 99.9% of the NG are not trained for police work by & large. I along with other FOG's remember Kent State & that tragedy. A lot of people in a crowd & agitators screaming at Authority (people in uniform & carrying weapons) Some ass-wipe hollers "Those guns aren't loaded" that's all it takes for a giant shit-show to ensue. The Answer, I don't have one, way above my pay grade & expertise. THOUGHTS...

[Chucko]

No desk pops allowed in the Capital. :eek:

[PSM]

Have family members in the NG, They are GOOD PEOPLE, however, they & probably 99.9% of the NG are not trained for police work by & large. I along with other FOG's remember Kent State & that tragedy. A lot of people in a crowd & agitators screaming at Authority (people in uniform & carrying weapons) Some ass-wipe hollers "Those guns aren't loaded" that's all it takes for a giant shit-show to ensue. The Answer, I don't have one, way above my pay grade & expertise. THOUGHTS...

My son is an NG Warrant. The first called up is MPs to cover local LEOs by providing crowd and traffic control. Second is Infantry to detain any problem children that LEOs and MPs pass back to them. This is largely another circus side show since the "Inauguration" will be virtual anyway.

Kent State was 50 years ago and a whole lot of changes have been made. Army NG back then was a hideout for guys that didn't want to get drafted (I wont call them draft dodgers because they were, at least, available for deployment). Today's NG, as pointed out, has many combat units that have deployed many times, they are more professional and mature than in the '70s.

[FlagDayNCO]

I noticed how all the Dim Governors are mobilizing their state guard units and send them to DC to “protect democracy”, coupled with all the press releases.

Of note is all the press releases concerning the recent events in DC, the death if USCP officer, and the inauguration are being issued by Dims. Not one Rep news release.

Media not publishing Rep releases or are the Reps absent again. Reps In Name Only by chance?

[Badger52]

You just gave me ptsd as I flashback to....

There I was...
Got the marksmanship team to give few days of solid coaching
Spent $$$ to get civilian SME to give solid commo training w the latest gear

All cut short :( to complete trans training an walk around in jeans
O’s legacies :boohooEven pre-O. Same affliction here.

cat in the hat's observation about leadership positions acquired by other than competency might explain issues we had at our mobstation with a few of these units that are now showing up for 'the Surge' in the DC Green Zone. A couple were even sent home and I got the impression from talking to my colleagues in other disciplines (from Log to the IN Tng Bde) that some of the units were systemically just a kluge. "Ate up" from the top down is the highly technical term applied.

This was awhile ago - maybe things got better.
At least Duffel Blog is on it.

[Swoop]

I don’t seem to remember as much enthusiasm for bringing in the Guard during this past summer’s “mostly peaceful” rioting, looting and fire-sale events. JMOO

DOL

[JimP]

I don’t seem to remember as much enthusiasm for bringing in the Guard during this past summer’s “mostly peaceful” rioting, looting and fire-sale events. JMOO

DOL

that's cause you're a hating, hateful hater full of hate and white privilege who can't see his toxic whiteness. At least that's what I am being told.

I laugh about the lie people of color are telling that if the siege was by black people the cops would have beaten and killed them all. I said: :"Like all the riots this summer when BLM was actively assaulting cops, looting stores, committing arson?"

Here, some unarmed white chick (Veteran) is climbing through a window and they pop her. If she was black, cities would be burning now, Ben Crump would be looking for his next beach house, and the goblins would be rioting in the street.

[Swoop]

that's cause you're a hating, hateful hater full of hate and white privilege who can't see his toxic whiteness.

You got me! Guilty as charged. :cool:

[rsdengler]

I don’t seem to remember as much enthusiasm for bringing in the Guard during this past summer’s “mostly peaceful” rioting, looting and fire-sale events. JMOO

DOL

That's because it was the annual Nike Shoe sale and Weenie Roast, bring your own fire starters.....:munchin

[Old Dog New Trick]

I don’t seem to remember as much enthusiasm for bringing in the Guard during this past summer’s “mostly peaceful” rioting, looting and fire-sale events. JMOO

DOL

That was a figment of your imagination. What you were seeing was a hoax, a myth. Fat Jerry is a beacon of truth! CNN the arbiter of facts!

[Badger52]

That was a figment of your imagination. What you were seeing was a hoax, a myth. Fat Jerry is a beacon of truth! CNN the arbiter of facts!It's just an idea.

[Penn]

Taking everything into consideration, especially the election outcome, political, cultural conflicts from gender to historical revisionism, I do not see the NG or AR, pulling on American citizens.

[Old Dog New Trick]

I’m just tickled pink with the long term change of heart the Democrats in Washington have come to acknowledge. I haven’t heard Nancy Pelosi invoke the US Constitution as many times as she and Schumer have in the past year in over three decades. And the list of sudden support for these things is quite simply astonishing.

- Fences are good now.
- The NG should be used to quell violent protests.
- The police should be recognized for the hard work they do to protect the citizens.

And...

- Migrant caravans from Central America are bad and should stay in Central America.

- I’m certain that she will have to sign Biden’s $1.9T economic relief bill into law before reading it. (Some things just will not change if they can take money from hard working Americans and give it to themselves.)

But hey, four outta five ain’t bad.

[Pete]

And to take a big leap into the rabbit hole there is this....

"Pentagon fears there could be an INSIDE attack during Biden's inauguration and will vet all 25,000 National Guard troops stationed in DC - as Army reservist with 'secret' security clearance is arrested in Capitol siege"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9158361/FBI-vetting-Guard-troops-DC-amid-fears-insider-attack.html

"...The massive undertaking reflects the extraordinary security concerns that have gripped Washington following the deadly January 6 insurrection at the U.S. Capitol by pro-Trump rioters.

It also underscores fears that some of the very people assigned to protect the city over the next several days could present a threat to the incoming president and other VIPs in attendance...."

Pumping up the narrative.....

[Old Dog New Trick]

Yeah but, the FBI is on it. So it’s all good now.

[Paslode]

And to take a big leap into the rabbit hole there is this....

"Pentagon fears there could be an INSIDE attack during Biden's inauguration and will vet all 25,000 National Guard troops stationed in DC - as Army reservist with 'secret' security clearance is arrested in Capitol siege"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9158361/FBI-vetting-Guard-troops-DC-amid-fears-insider-attack.html

"...The massive undertaking reflects the extraordinary security concerns that have gripped Washington following the deadly January 6 insurrection at the U.S. Capitol by pro-Trump rioters.

It also underscores fears that some of the very people assigned to protect the city over the next several days could present a threat to the incoming president and other VIPs in attendance...."

Pumping up the narrative.....

All this for an inauguration which I was under the impression was going to be virtual?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-says-inauguration-will-resemble-virtual-convention/ar-BB1bDSfG

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/09/politics/biden-inauguration-fundraising-lobbying/index.html

[Old Dog New Trick]

Not “virtual” but “virtuous” as in virtue signaling.

There will live performances by Biden, Obama, Bush and Clinton and their wives. Once they get done with the pomp and circumstance over looking the cameras they are all going over to Arlington National Cemetery to lay a wreath at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier.

I wonder though if they will have cardboard cutouts of the rest of the SCOTUS and facial photos of congress and other family members not present?

Maybe use speakers to inject enthusiasm from an absent public of supporters, like they do for football games.

[JimP]

getting kind of "Potempkinish" aren't we ?


Look Comrade, look at all the adoring crowds."

[Paslode]

getting kind of "Potempkinish" aren't we ?


It sure seems that way. I mean with all the extra effort that is and has taking place you gotta be blind or willfully ignorant not too see it.

[Old Dog New Trick]

I had wondered at what other time this happened and my assumption was correct.

History is replete with lessons from the past.

National Guard sleeping in the Capitol an echo of Civil War

To most Americans, the sight of armed National Guard troops sleeping in the Capitol Rotunda this past week was shocking and disturbing. To me, it was an echo of the far-distant past.
“Don’t despond,” Maj. Bowman Bigelow Breed wrote to his anxious wife back home in Massachusetts as his comrades lounged around him on the polished marble floors in the grand hall that was now their bivouac. “You must know by this time that we are here in safety. We may have to fight but my own opinion is that the overwhelming force concentrated here will prevent an attack.”
Insurrection was in the air, and these citizen soldiers had been called up to secure the seat of government.
The date was April 27, 1861. The writer was surgeon of the 8th Massachusetts Volunteer Militia.
My great-grandfather.
Having transcribed my great-grandparents’ Civil War correspondence, I knew that Bowman’s unit had spent the first days of the war bivouacked in what he called “the Hall of the Dome.” Harper’s Weekly published an illustration of the 8th’s men, their weapons leaned against the marble walls or stacked, bayonets intertwined, like fodder shocks in a farmer’s field.
“I wish you could look in on us this morning and see how comfortably we are settled here,” he wrote in that first missive, scribbled on letterhead for the “Thirty Sixth Congress House of representatives.”
The regiment called itself “the Minutemen,” after those New England patriots who grabbed their muskets and rushed to face the Redcoats at Lexington and Concord in April 1775. My great-grandmother, Hannah Pope Breed, was descended from one of those men.
And, so, when President Abraham Lincoln called for 75,000 volunteers to put down the inusrrection of the Southern states, there was no question but that Bowman -- privileged son of a wealthy industrialist -- would go.
The 8th headed south just four days after rebels opened fire on Fort Sumter. Passing through hostile territory in slaveholding Maryland, Bowman was unable to fulfill his promise to write every day.
“How I have suffered when I knew that all communication was cut off and that you were torn hour after hour by the terrible suspense of hope deferred,” he apologized to Hannah, who was left alone to care for their infant son, Isaiah. “Don’t despond my darling. God will preserve us all and in time of war you must have faith in the handy old proverb that no news is good news.”
While the enlisted men slept in the rotunda, the 10 officers shared a small room just off the main hall.
“A little room opening from that serves for my hospital, very small and very inconvenient,” Bowman wrote. “I have not been able to open my medical stores yet and can use only what I can carry about in my bag. I have been on the run Ever since I came here, trying to arrange matters, but red tape rules here and I have been referred from one to another till I am tired out.”
The Capitol was undergoing a massive expansion. The regimental chaplain held services in the old Senate chamber.
“The men all stood in a circle with the officers on one side and the chaplain in the centre,” he wrote. “He made a very appropriate prayer and then we all sang, `Praise God from whom all blessings flow.’”
The day after their arrival, Bowman and his comrades were treated to a visit from Secretary of State William H. Seward and the president himself.
“We were all introduced and had quite a chat with them,” he wrote. “They were both in good spirits. Lincoln said that if the city had been as unprotected then as it was a week before it would have been taken.”
The regiment was drawn up, Bowman said, “and the Pres made them a little speach.” It was early in the Republican’s first term, and most did not yet know what to make of this “dirty Hoosier,” as Hannah referred to the Kentucky-born, Indiana-bred Lincoln.
“All that has Ever been said of Lincolns awkwardness is mild compared with the reality,” Bowman wrote. “Some of his gestures would make the fortune of a circus clown.”
Nonetheless, the new president inspired confidence in the citizen soldiers.
“The men gave three cheers for Lincoln, three for Seward and three rouses for the Union,” Bowman wrote.
When the 8th was stationed there, the higher, more ornate Capitol dome was not yet complete. As the war dragged on, critics suggested that the costly work be halted.
Lincoln felt otherwise.
“If people see the Capitol going on,” he said, “it is a sign we intend the Union shall go on.”
Bowman would serve throughout the entire war. As painful as their separation would be, he told Hannah in that first letter from Washington, he hoped that the struggle was “the means God in his goodness has provided to remove the dark cloud under which we have seemed to be resting for so long.”
“I have faith to believe that all our steps are ordered for the best,” he wrote. “Let our prayers mingle now as heretofore and all the blessing of a holy calm will descend, to strengthen us.”
___
Allen G. Breed, a native of Lynn, Massachusetts, is based in Raleigh, North Carolina.

[Box]

Are these the same NG troops that House Drinker Pelosi described as Stormtroopers back when the peaceful protestors were setting fires and destroying property from coast to coast in the summer of 2020?

asking for a friend

[Joker]

Why didn’t they send the social workers?

[Badger52]

Are these the same NG troops that House Drinker Pelosi described as Stormtroopers back when the peaceful protestors were setting fires and destroying property from coast to coast in the summer of 2020?

asking for a friendThat stuff didn't really happen. It was just done on a low-budget sound stage out of a couple of rented hangers at Van Nuys Airport. Just like the moon landing.

[Joker]

Now they can say, “Look Dear Leader the military showed up in for sin their isolation of you!” Then they wheel him away.
Looking back 15, 12, and 4 years, I believe that Biden has lost much of his mental capacity. I don’t see him serving one whole term.

[WarriorDiplomat]

Are these the same NG troops that House Drinker Pelosi described as Stormtroopers back when the peaceful protestors were setting fires and destroying property from coast to coast in the summer of 2020?

asking for a friend

I think so but I suspect in her drunkeness forgot that under Obama the disciplined warrior class are not the majority of the military anymore

[Old Dog New Trick]

I don’t see him serving one whole term.

Being rather optimistic aren’t you? I don’t see him lasting his first 100 days before the revolt inside his own party enacts the 25A and throws him, his wife and his family to the curb.

[tonyz]

Being rather optimistic aren’t you? I don’t see him lasting his first 100 days before the revolt inside his own party enacts the 25A and throws him, his wife and his family to the curb.

No doubt there will be a President Harris...the former Senator from California...was Big Tech the new Manchurian Global?

[Paslode]

Dem. Rep Steve Cohen concerned about the National Guard...

I think the guard is 90 some odd percent I believe male, only about 20 percent of white males voted for Biden. You have to figure that the guard which is predominantly more conservative and I see that on my social media, and we know it, there are probably not more than 25 percent of the people there protecting us that voted for Biden, the other 75 percent are in the class that would be the large class of folks who might want to do something and there were military people and police who took oaths to defend the Constitution and to protect and defend who didn’t do it who were in the insurrection. So it does concern me.

https://news.grabien.com/story-dem-rep-cohen-national-guard-90-male-and-only-25-voted-biden

I wonder if this will usher in a new push for diversity and inclusion in the military and a purge of White Males..

[Paslode]

**Wrong Thread**

[bblhead672]

Was disappointed to read this morning that the governor of Texas sent 1000 Texas NG to the socialist democrat coronation in DC.

[rsdengler]

I think it's a bit of an overkill. They never allowed the Guard to be brought in when we had riots/cities burning/looting/blocking highways/taking over city blocks/buildings and thugs beating up people and cops in Minneapolis, Seattle, Portland, Chicago....the list goes on....Now all of a sudden it's "to stop any violence from the right".....We've gone mad....

[Golf1echo]

I think it's a bit of an overkill. They never allowed the Guard to be brought in when we had riots/cities burning/looting/blocking highways/taking over city blocks/buildings and thugs beating up people and cops in Minneapolis, Seattle, Portland, Chicago....the list goes on....Now all of a sudden it's "to stop any violence from the right".....We've gone mad....

Optics...

[Texas_Shooter]

Was disappointed to read this morning that the governor of Texas sent 1000 Texas NG to the socialist democrat coronation in DC.

https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/texas-news/abbott-says-he-finds-vetting-of-texas-national-guard-ahead-of-inauguration-offensive/2530767/

At least he found it offensive they got vetted for going to Washington D.C.

[tonyz]

At least he found it offensive they got vetted for going to Washington D.C.

After spending time in DC...I sure hope they fumigated before they head home. :eek:

[bblhead672]

https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/texas-news/abbott-says-he-finds-vetting-of-texas-national-guard-ahead-of-inauguration-offensive/2530767/

At least he found it offensive they got vetted for going to Washington D.C.

Abbott does some good things...but he often doesn't recognize bad optics. Sending Texas NG to the swamp indicates compliance with the swamp.

[Texas_Shooter]

Abbott does some good things...but he often doesn't recognize bad optics. Sending Texas NG to the swamp indicates compliance with the swamp.

Yeah I didn't quite get that. If the Federal Government needed the troops for the inauguration shouldn't they have ordered them up into Federal service? Why would a Republican governor want to help Biden's inauguration? Lots of questions

The only thing I can find on Texas Guard is around voting time. Would like to know who ordered them up.

[NurseTim]

After spending time in DC...I sure hope they fumigated before they head home. :eek:

Definitely count their fingers and toes and kidneys.

[Razor]

At least he found it offensive they got vetted for going to Washington D.C.

If he was truly offended, he could easily recall them right now. The governor doth protest too much, methinks.

Further, SECDEF (by EO) controls the DCNG and accepts/approves offers of assistance from other states (unless he delegates that authority to SECARMY). Why the hell is Miller allowing this 27,000 person security circus; he's out of a job tomorrow, so no use in pandering to the new king and his court.

[Razor]

Yeah I didn't quite get that. If the Federal Government needed the troops for the inauguration shouldn't they have ordered them up into Federal service?

If NG units are federalized, they are restricted from performing law enforcement-like duties by Posse Comitatus, just like active duty troops. If they stay under State Active Duty or Title 32, they aren't bound by those restrictions.

[Badger52]

CNGB had a little blip talking about visiting "some of the 65,000 Soldiers and Airmen that we have on duty today." He can't be talking about the total NG force, it's bigger than that IIRC. Here's the blip's link:
https://www.xxxxxxx.com/watch?v=5Y6Dx7eqgYI

In another short interview, the talking head had asked him, very specifically noting that the NG are armed, what their specific RoE were. Frankly, imo, he danced around that and left it up to the Federal LE HMFIC & I can understand that, but he assured the lady interviewer that "all our Soldiers are trained in de-escalation techniques" - really?

SIX FIVE THOUSAND and RAZOR WIRE
Good thing; sure would hate for a crowd of attendees to get concerned (https://www.military.com/daily-news/2021/01/18/inauguration-rehearsal-evacuated-after-fire-homeless-camp.html?ESRC=eb_210119.nl) over a homeless cooking fire a mile away.
:munchin

[tom kelly]

The Kent State method..."Those guns aren't loaded".

[NurseTim]

12 guardsmen pulled from duty.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/12-national-guard-troops-pulled-from-duty-in-washington-ahead-of-inauguration_3663114.html?utm_source=news&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-2021-01-19-5

[Old Dog New Trick]

12 guardsmen pulled from duty.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/12-national-guard-troops-pulled-from-duty-in-washington-ahead-of-inauguration_3663114.html?utm_source=news&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-2021-01-19-5

So does this mean they will be courts martial’d when they return home and be discharged with a less than honorable discharge?

Never allowed to own, or purchase a weapon again?

How far down the rabbit hole do we go?

[Razor]

The Chief of the National Guard Bureau has no command authority over any NG member or unit. He is like the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, with coordinating authority only.

I find it interesting he noted 65,000 activated Guardsmen around the country; this morning's NGB update cited 91,000.

There's no way the NGB, the Intel Community, or even the FBI conducted 27,000 short-notice, legitimate background investigations in less than a week. I have a feeling this screening didn't go beyond doing biographic information queries of various USG watch lists, and cursory social media scrapes to look for keyword/image associations.

[PSM]

The Kent State method..."Those guns aren't loaded".

The Kent State NG were really draft dodgers. Today's NG aren't. Most of the combat MOS troops have deployed at least once and many, if not most, are former active duty Army or Marines.

[Badger52]

There's no way the NGB, the Intel Community, or even the FBI conducted 27,000 short-notice, legitimate background investigations in less than a week. I have a feeling this screening didn't go beyond doing biographic information queries of various USG watch lists, and cursory social media scrapes to look for keyword/image associations.The FBI went through 33,000 of HRC's emails in less than 2 days, so...
:D

[1stindoor]

12 guardsmen pulled from duty.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/12-national-guard-troops-pulled-from-duty-in-washington-ahead-of-inauguration_3663114.html?utm_source=news&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-2021-01-19-5

This is what interested me in the whole article:

Two of the 12 were pulled because of “inappropriate comments or texts,” Gen. Daniel Hokanson, the National Guard chief, told reporters at the Pentagon.

One of those was flagged within the chain of command while the other was informed on by someone over a tipline.

The other 10 were flagged by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI)

I wonder how far back into their text history, online social media feed, etc. they went to find "inappropriate comments?" As for the other 10...I'm scanning the crowds and looking for brown shirts.

[Pete]

Joe Biden’s Pentagon Pick Lloyd Austin Vows to Rid Military Ranks of ‘Racists and Extremists’

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/01/19/biden-pentagon-pick-lloyd-austin-vows-rid-military-racists-extremists/

"Lloyd Austin, President-elect Joe Biden’s nominee for defense secretary, said Tuesday during his confirmation hearing that he would work to rid the military of “racists and extremists.”

Democrats in recent days have sounded the alarm over the prospect of extremists in the military, after veterans and active-duty members of the military were identified attending a pro-Trump protest at the Capitol on January 6, with some breaching the Capitol building......."

This might get interesting - all depends on what their definition of ‘Racists and Extremists’ is.

[Badger52]

This might get interesting - all depends on what their definition of ‘Racists and Extremists’ is. Dust off Napolitano's old National Threat Assessment. The Ghost of McVeigh is alive!

[Costa]

Joe Biden’s Pentagon Pick Lloyd Austin Vows to Rid Military Ranks of ‘Racists and Extremists’

This might get interesting - all depends on what their definition of ‘Racists and Extremists’ is.

And you think gun sales are high now? Wait until the "racists and extremists" get their DD214's in hand and officially join the "militia".

[EricV]

And you think gun sales are high now? Wait until the "racists and extremists" get their DD214's in hand and officially join the "militia".

I expect that the Biden admin has executive orders about to be announced to affect the gun scene. Better have what you need now, and not later.

[bblhead672]

Washington, D.C. — Now Effectively Under Martial Law (https://rumble.com/vd2585-washington-d.c.-now-effectively-under-martial-law.html)

Michael Yon:
Spent a great deal of time with communists or in communist countries. You don’t want that. It’s worse than the old people describe.

When I was a kid, old people would say that tyranny was inching to America. That paper money would be abolished. That everything we did would be tracked by tyrants if we do not stand up. They sounded crazy. They sounded crazy then.

[Patriot007]

To the lawyers:

How is it Texas did not have STANDING in the presidential election process in PA but provided NG troops for the inauguration? They should have at least refused on those grounds or counter sue.

[Sohei]

Personally, I think it's the even "newer, nicer" GOP who just wants to play nice and do their part to show their support for their new president. Then again, I could be wrong.

[Last hard class]

Michael Yon:

Hmmm...


Regarding the 12 NG. If I was AD I would take the warning at face value.



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