View Full Version : George Soros's Plan B If Biden Loses
It's amazing how much money and resources Spooky Dude throws at changing the world and playing God. It's even more amazing he hasn't received a 'gift' from above like General Soleimani.
From Townhall:
So what to do? First, cast your vote wisely on November 3. Pray diligently for God's mercy. And stand with elected leaders and police if and when they face Soros-inspired efforts to "mobilize civil society" to oust a duly-elected President Trump.
https://townhall.com/columnists/frankwright/2020/11/01/george-soross-plan-b-if-biden-loses-n2579176
Only in America can one openly act "treasonous" with impunity.
A read, well worth your time.
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/world-politics/article/social-revolution-and-authoritarian-durability/B62A931E63978E8B8466225EC123D2A9/core-reader
Very informative! Kinda spooky! Thanks Penn.
It's amazing how much money and resources Spooky Dude throws at changing the world and playing God. It's even more amazing he hasn't received a 'gift' from above like General Soleimani.
From Townhall:
https://townhall.com/columnists/frankwright/2020/11/01/george-soross-plan-b-if-biden-loses-n2579176
I would push back a bit, not on Soros, but on the description and mission execution of OTPOR.
Strictly non violent and non kinetic, much like an evolved analog to CIA backed Solidarity, indigenous and organic to Poland.
OTPOR directly led to CANVAS: https://canvasopedia.org/about-us/
CANVAS weekly email update is worth reading.
Same Serbian OTPOR founders teaching a course on it at Harvard’s JFK School.
https://www.hks.harvard.edu/about/srdja-popovic
https://www.hks.harvard.edu/sites/default/files/HKSEE/HKSEE%20Files/LNM_Brochure.pdf
Disclosure: I took the course a number of years ago and definitely buy non-violence as a higher probability/durability option for many(but not all) organic/indigenous resistance movements.
“Laughtivism” was a particular innovation used by the Serbian OTPOR to get around Milosevic’s secret police.
We’re certainly seeing attempts at that on both sides recently.
Perhaps Soros funded them, rumour also was CIA may have, I have no idea.
What I do know is that OTPOR wasn’t as described in Serbia as per the article, and Soros will never create a legitimate resistance movement in the US or elsewhere.
Fund existing ones?
Certainly.
But external actors creating them from nothing almost always leads to failure.
If I had to guess, I’d say the organised efforts in the US have far more in common with the Arab Spring, particularly in Libya.
The core protestors and their tech savvy advisors building digital protest networks (including numerous local ethnic US resident big tech employees) had no experience in running effective street mobs, so they mashed themselves up with soccer hooligans as their street muscle.
Akin to tech savvy leaders building digital networks to connect, influence, and deploy protestors seeded with ANTIFA/Black Bloc street mobs.
Soros’ money can certainly catalyze things, but can it actually create capacity and capability?
I’m thinking no.
I’ve always thought of Soros as a money man, rather than the boogeyman.
Yup. The finance guy in an insurgent network is always pretty high priority in the target deck, for good reason. Passion alone doesn’t put food in your belly.
But from a distance, the rising focus on Soros reminds me of the sad excuses made over the years across Africa blaming the Rhodesians and South Africans or Arabs blaming Mossad for everything.
If Soros, his sons, and his money disappeared tomorrow its not going to fundamentally change things.
If it would, or more like if we believe it would, what does that say about fragility and lack of basic resilience?
To me, it’s a repeat of 2016 election foreign influence.
Of course they tried, like we do.
The question we should ask is: IF foreign influence attempts were successful(under $1 million proven spent I believe?), what does that say about fragility and resilience.
Does that mean as a society we are more akin to dangerously dry and unkempt California scrub or a well managed lush rain forest that can’t burn?
Badger52
11-02-2020, 06:27
Does that mean as a society we are more akin to dangerously dry and unkempt California scrub or a well managed lush rain forest that can’t burn?Appreciate the whole post. In your view, do you think it's possible that both conditions can exist within a country given the disparate characteristics between what are often called "elite coasts" (containing huge cities & numbers of electoral votes) and other large areas of the land mass?
Appreciate the whole post. In your view, do you think it's possible that both conditions can exist within a country given the disparate characteristics between what are often called "elite coasts" (containing huge cities & numbers of electoral votes) and other large areas of the land mass?
Absolutely!
Especially in the United States.
I guess that’s both the superpower and curse of the US Republic that few people outside of it(and many inside of it) can’t or won’t comprehend.
The US Republic is like 50 closely aligned nations but with great latitude to compete/experiment/innovate at the local/state level under a shared federal Constitutional umbrella.
Diversity at the macro state level balancing the sovereignty of humanity(House of Representatives) with geography(Senate)
Places like San Francisco and New York have outsized power and influence due to their innovation/value creation and banking/finance sectors, respectively.
“Flyover country” has quite understated outsized power with their massive food & energy production per capita.
You can’t eat innovation or numbers on a screen or fill your car with it.
You can’t grow food or pump energy without innovation or finance.
The US is facing deep existential issues, but only a moron would bet against the US long-term.
I reckon the coastal elites and the folks in flyover country need to understand they are engaged in a form of mutual assured destruction and they are better off together than apart.
tom kelly
11-02-2020, 13:17
Is George Soros the "NEW" Howard Hughes ? Has anybody seen George, outside of his NY compound ? How old is George now, my guess is mid-90's also is he still in control of his money ? or does someone other than the Soros family...run the show?
Whore-Hay Sore-Ohs and the fate of the republic…
The biggest threat to America is Americans. Soros, Biden, Harris, Pelosi, Schumer, – all just names made famous by Americans with short memories. We cant blame them – they are only pandering to a society that feeds their appetite for power the way an elementary school kid feeds those shit-slinging monkeys at the local zoo. Power that we the people give them freely and with little consequence.
-That’s not to say that Chuck Schumer isn’t a mountain of a man – he stands as tall as an oak tree
…a 5 foot 9 inch tall Oak Tree.
-I’m not saying that Joe Biden is crazy - he has managed to spend 47 years in the swamp not because he is crazy but because he has a mind like a steel trap - a steel trap that has rusted shut after sitting in a swamp for 47 years.
What I am saying is that every election cycle, Americans try harder and harder to personify the old adage about people deserving the government they get and I don’t understand why. Maybe it is because they are mesmerized by Nancy Pelosi and her deep, throaty, genuine laugh, the kind of laugh that mimics the sound a dog makes just before it throws up – who knows.
Just don’t blame Nancy – she only wants to maintain her standard of living. A standard of living that her taxpaying constituents have grown accustomed to providing for her after decades of sharing the fruits of her labor.
George Soros loves freedom with all his heart – sort of like if his heart was a mob informant, and liberty was the East River. Everyone in the world knows it – yet everyone in the world still just adores the way he pays for their souls in cash and all they need to do is start a few structure fires in their own neighborhoods.
Week after week we watch these fucking crime lords crash economies, swindle the masses, betray the public trust, and literally disrespect us to our faces and we just keep going back for more. Sure, I know that we the people are unable to accept that we’re actually being abused but it’s just as much our fault for electing them to office in the first place. After all, AOC even admitted that reason there was so much corruption in politics is because we don’t pay them enough.
It’s our fault.
We don’t appreciate the love-bombing and grand romantic gestures that are part of our bizarre affair with career politicians – we should, but we just don’t appreciate everything they do for us. When our politicians come home smelling like a three Martini lunch with lipstick stains on their collar from working late with that two bit lobbyist we get all indignant and pissy because of their behavior instead of thanking them for the COVID check that they gave us. We don’t even realize how important it is for us to commit to them early and vote before election day…
…before the media is forced to report the truth.
I know that Joe feels guilty for what he did to Tara Reade – but he's sorry and he’ll never do it again. I know he said integrated schools would be a jungle and that minorities could be as smart as white kids – but he didn’t mean it. Besides, he is on his best behavior right now – it’s almost like a honeymoon with him and his voters. Forget the last 47 years…
…THINGS.ARE.GOING.TO.BE.DIFFERENT.THIS.TIME
Haters will try to swear that society’s fascination with democratic politicians and their policies resembles battered woman syndrome – but that’s crazy talk. Society isn’t “trapped” by liberal policies…
-we aren’t becoming increasingly financially dependent on the government
-our financial problems haven’t been manufactured by the left
We just need to all get along - for the children’s sake. I know many people threaten to leave the country but when you pay attention, they are just afraid to leave. Liberals in government aren’t actually abusing the public trust, we are just being stingy because we are blinded by systemic racism. I know that people are depressed but that’s not the fault of government shutting down society – it’s just a byproduct of our own self-esteem – its something “we the people" need to work on to improve our OWN lifestyle.
-the liberals love us and if we just do as we are told, things will change!
I know that the last four years of political bickering has damaged our relationships with friends and family, caused severe anxiety for people on both sides of the aisle, created an national feeling of hopelessness, and implanted that sad realization that we have no control over what happens next - but its all our fault.
It isn’t the fault of people like Soros, Biden, Harris, Pelosi, and Schumer – it’s the fault of the American people for empowering them.
Old Dog New Trick
11-02-2020, 13:59
As Mike T said...
“Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face!”
As I just told my 13y/o son not to panic about what comes after the election. Regardless of who wins the radical left will not be happy or content. The good news is more Americans have seen what’s behind doors number 1...2...and 3 than ever before. Trump pulled the curtains back.
If Trump wins there will be violence from BLM/Antifa against our liberal cities. And some of that will spill over into suburbia to the point where they will get “punched in the face!” After awhile they will get tired of getting punched in the face and return to the basements where they will go back to playing Call of Duty and drinking out of a sippy cup.
If Biden wins, we will patiently wait until the 2024 election and resist the changes the progressive left attempted under the Obama/Biden. It might not even take but 2-years for the bastards to get voted out of office at the local level and the congress.
The Republic is not dead until the patriots give up.
Is George Soros the "NEW" Howard Hughes ? Has anybody seen George, outside of his NY compound ? How old is George now, my guess is mid-90's also is he still in control of his money ? or does someone other than the Soros family...run the show?
I think it's still him and his sons holding the reigns.
I do think there's a growing need to develop strategy and doctrine around how to counter non-state actors who are using non-kinetic means to undermine western institutions(basically, what the good guys did to the Soviets/Warsaw Pact in Poland being used against us).
If Soros(or some similar oligarch) was actually funding violent overthrow it would be pretty straight forward to reduce that threat based on the last two decades of experience.
It's the non-kinetic UW part that makes it all a tougher nut to crack.
A small well resourced DOJ/SEC/IRS/OGA task force exclusively targeting oligarchs who interfere with and undermine US sovereignty could disrupt someone like Soros, and others of his ilk.
It would also be a signal to US oligarchs and those with considerable social influence/control to perhaps voluntarily take a position like those in the US military of being politically active, but not using their credibility/position for political folly.
Putin would throw them in jail and/or serve them polonium tea.
I'd think ruthlessly kicking them in their bank accounts and putting them on permanent defence would be a culturally/legally acceptable option.
A small well resourced DOJ/SEC/IRS/OGA task force exclusively targeting oligarchs who interfere with and undermine US sovereignty could disrupt someone like Soros, and others of his ilk.
Just out of curiosity - which of the US oligarchs would be responsible for making sure that such a task force was targeting the "correct" oligarchs ??
American oligarchs are far worse than Putin on his worst day - primarily because American oligarchs "dont exist" - we know because the media has told us repeatedly that they don't exist.
I wouldn't trust a DOJ/SEC/IRS/OGA task force to make sure that an elementary school kid was doing his chores. Not them, not the FBI, USPS, DOE, DOD, DHS, ATF, NSA, TSA, or even the BSA for that matter because with every single one of them its the innocent people that are going to end up getting fucked.
Besides, haven't you been paying attention to the news - there is no deep state in the USA.
Plan B is baked into their DNA...the long march through institutions will continue no matter the election outcome...
Commies for Biden
J. Michael Waller
American Greatness
11/01/2020
Why old American Communist warhorses like Angela Davis and Bob Avakian are urging a vote for the establishment Democrat: “He is far more likely to take mass demands seriously.”
Far from being “spontaneous” or “mythical,” today’s militant political violence is not only organized, it even has user manuals. In destroying statues and other symbols of American history, the new violent extremist movement cultivates its own history:Indoctrinate people without them realizing it, gradually and slowly, by infiltrating their cultural institutions. Italian Communist Party founder Antonio Gramsci laid it out in his Prison Notebooks to battle what he called the “cultural hegemony” of religion, politics, business, and folklore of Western civilization. Gramsci pioneered a “counter hegemony” to develop alternative values for all of society, including an alternative religion. Inculcating this alternative hegemony throughout society to change values over time, he argued, was necessary to create a social support base for violent revolution.
It’s all about replacing a society’s belief system.
“Socialism is precisely the religion that must overwhelm Christianity,” Gramsci wrote. “In the new order, Socialism will triumph by first capturing the culture via infiltration of schools, universities, churches, and the media by transforming the consciousness of society.”
Gramsci and others called for a warrior intellectual who didn’t just think radical thoughts. “Unless an intellectual has really participated in armed struggle, with the risks and danger which this entails, all his answers” to revolution “could easily become a pretentious intellectual comedy,” wrote Regis Debray, the French Communist who stressed culture as a tool of revolution. Debray lived it out, working with Che Guevara’s violent revolution in Bolivia and Chile’s Salvador Allende in revolution-through-political-infiltration. His critical analysis Revolution In the Revolution? became a guidebook for violent extremists in Latin America, later borrowed by American radicals.
Debray laid out what we see with Black Lives Matter and Antifa today—and with their supporters deep inside the Biden camp: “Armed self-defense” (aggressive defense using shields, barricades, helmets, and weapons), “armed propaganda,” “the guerrilla base,” and a merger of “the Party and the guerrilla.”
Debray devoted considerable attention to what he called “armed propaganda”—what others call “propaganda of the deed”—in which direct action, vandalism, destruction of national symbols, assassination, and other violence are valuable for their own propaganda purposes. Bolsheviks such as Vladimir Lenin and Leon Trotsky deplored armed propaganda as a counterproductive anarchist trick that needlessly provoked authorities into repressing the movement. But others, including 1960s-era extremists in the Black Panther Party and the Weather Underground, viewed armed propaganda as a strategic asset purposefully to provoke police overreaction for all the world to see in the press and on television.
A New Generation of Radicals
For BLM and Antifa, armed propaganda produces precisely the overreaction they think justifies their causes and broadens their public support as heroic victims.
Debray went on to become a French government official. Today, now-elderly surviving Black Panther and Weather Underground figures like Angela Davis and Bill Ayers have become the revolutionary intellectuals and organizers of the Gramsci and Debray models.
Street-fighters such as Davis—who served prison time for buying the sawed-off shotgun to murder a California judge—went on to study under Marxist intellectuals like Herbert Marcuse, the most famous of the Frankfurt School of critical theory and considered the father of the New Left. Davis then studied at Marcuse’s alma mater, Humboldt University, in what was then Soviet-occupied East Berlin, where she received her Ph.D. after the Kremlin presented her with the Lenin Peace Prize in 1979. She joined the KGB-controlled Communist Party USA to run twice for vice president of the United States. From her perch as a professor at the University of California at Santa Cruz, Davis built an intellectual movement to defund police, shut down prisons, and support the murders of police officers. She personifies the Gramsci-Debray-Marcuse-Soviet hybrid American revolutionary.
Davis and others—including Representative Barbara Lee (D-Calif.)—were participants in, and perhaps agents of, controlled international Soviet front organizations. (I saw Lee in action myself when she was a staffer for Ron Dellums, a long-serving Democratic congressman from California, operating on the World Peace Council, a Soviet front I had infiltrated in 1986. Lee now holds Dellums’ seat in Congress.)
“The Communist fronts have an organizational base and cadres trained in schools of political warfare, with which they aim to confuse opinion in the non-Communist world and weaken the will of the democracies to resist,” as James Atkinson, an analyst of Communist fronts, had written two decades earlier in The Politics of Struggle: The Communist Front and Political Warfare. The controlled fronts, under KGB direction, assessed, recruited, and trained an international cadre. They built a controlled international core of political warriors whose networks outlasted the Soviet collapse and remain with us today.
These networks took decades to build, and young Molotov cocktail-throwing radicals who had promise but no strategic vision or discipline, some feared, would burn themselves out and waste their potential.
“They have no illusions about the system,” Saul Alinsky said of them wistfully in his prologue to Rules for Radicals, “but plenty of illusions about the way to change our world. It is to this last point that I have written this book.”
The young people for whom Alinsky wrote in 1971 were the New Left: Students for a Democratic Society, Weather Underground, Black Liberation Army, and so forth. Alinsky wrote it for those riding on the extremist coattails, for students like the ambitious Hillary Rodham, who studied Alinsky so closely that she corresponded with him and wrote a paper at Wellesley about his work.
Alinsky provided that discipline. He was already famous for his Gramscian foundational work, Reveille for Radicals, which appeared before the future first lady, secretary of state, and Democratic presidential nominee was even born. That was Alinsky’s community-organizing manual, complete with organizational and conflict tactics, the role of “popular education,” and observations on the psychology of mass organizations and how to manipulate them.
“Few of us survived the Joe McCarthy holocaust of the early 1950s,” Alinsky wrote. Rules for Radicals was intended to help the next generation not only to survive, but to succeed.
It was that mass organizational work that infiltrated the George McGovern campaign against the Democratic Party establishment in 1972 where militants gained mainstream party political credentials. From that network, much later, seasoned Weather Underground communists like Bill Ayers mentored promising young community organizers in his Chicago living room. People like Chicago’s Barack Obama.
The Best Candidate to be Manipulated
As Bolshevik Leon Trotsky learned back in his time, it was fruitless and fatal to try to overthrow “the system” by deadly force without the right social and political preconditions. In the 1930s Trotsky developed a theory to drill or bore into the existing sociopolitical order, a concept translated into English as “boring from within.” Hardline Communists would dump their formal organizations and bore into the socialist and other legal leftist movements. Later revolutionists would rename this tactic “entryism,” or what 1960s Gramscian Communist and Frankfurt School devotee Rudi Dutschke called, borrowing from Mao, “the long march through the institutions.”
So it’s no surprise to see Communist support for Obama’s old running mate and vice president.
Angela Davis explains why. She ran twice for vice president under the Communist Party USA ticket. But 2020 is no time for numerically marginal parties to run protest candidates against Trump. This year, as Davis said, is the time for Communists to hold their noses and back Biden.
“I don’t see this election as being about choosing a candidate who will be able to lead us in the right direction,” Davis told Russia’s RT propaganda channel in June. “It will be about choosing a candidate who can be most effectively pressured into allowing more space for the evolving anti-racist [BLM/Antifa] movement.”
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Continued from above.
“Biden is very problematic in many ways,” Davis continued, because he took a hard line to imprison African Americans and is part of the enemy establishment. “But—I say but—Biden is far more likely to take mass demands seriously,” Davis stressed. “Far more likely than the current occupant of the White House. So that this coming November the election will ask us not so much to vote for the best candidate, but to vote for or against ourselves, and to vote for ourselves, I think, means that we will have to campaign for a vote for Biden.”
This is a 21st century call from a Communist agent using a Kremlin mouthpiece to encourage loyal cadres to infiltrate a mainstream presidential candidate and use his presidency as a Trojan horse.
It didn’t stop there. Bob Avakian, head of the Revolutionary Communist Party, announced that he wasn’t running a protest candidate either in 2020. The stakes for “revolution” are too high, he said in a long August 1 manifesto, so he threw his small but well-organized street network behind voting for Joe Biden: “To be clear, this means not a ‘protest vote’ for some candidate who has no chance of winning, but actually voting for the Democratic Party candidate, Biden, in order to effectively vote against Trump.”
All Communists must hold their noses and vote for Biden, Avakian said, “while continuing to build sustained mass mobilization against this regime and everything it represents and concentrates, and being prepared to carry forward this mass mobilization if Trump loses the election but refuses to leave.” (Emphasis in original.)
This is right out of the Democrats’ own action plan over the summer to use the mobs and other means to oust Trump if the election is inconclusive. Everyone against them is a dictator. A “fascist.”
“Violence,” wrote Mark Bray, author of Antifa: The Anti-Fascist Handbook, who, like Angela Davis, spent a career in academia, “represents a small though vital sliver of anti-fascist activity.”
As if borrowing from Gramsci for the digital age, Bray explains, Antifa researches its targets “online, in person, and sometimes through infiltration; they dox them, push cultural milieux to disown them, pressure bosses to fire them, and demand that venues cancel their shows, conferences, and meetings; they organize educational events, reading groups, trainings, athletic tournaments, and fundraisers; they write articles, leaflets, and newspapers, drop banners, and make videos . . . .”
This is, in a nutshell, makes up the only lively part of the Biden-Harris campaign. Boring from within.
https://amgreatness.com/2020/11/01/commies-for-biden/
Just out of curiosity - which of the US oligarchs would be responsible for making sure that such a task force was targeting the "correct" oligarchs ??
American oligarchs are far worse than Putin on his worst day - primarily because American oligarchs "dont exist" - we know because the media has told us repeatedly that they don't exist.
I wouldn't trust a DOJ/SEC/IRS/OGA task force to make sure that an elementary school kid was doing his chores. Not them, not the FBI, USPS, DOE, DOD, DHS, ATF, NSA, TSA, or even the BSA for that matter because with every single one of them its the innocent people that are going to end up getting fucked.
Besides, haven't you been paying attention to the news - there is no deep state in the USA.
Well, I think it assumes we can slap together enough represenatives from functional organs of government who will energetically and lawfully meet the enemies of the US to deter or destroy them.
I used to work for a US oligarch, Jeff Bezos, back in the 90's. The guy has led one of the greatest job, innovation, and wealth creation entities the world has ever seen and is leveraging it to extend US based dominance into space.
I know he's been on the wrong side of the President, but no one on any side is perfect. I found him to be a good American. Although I'm concerned about Amazon's behaviour towards its small business customers lately.
However, I'm mixed on whether his company(my former employer) Amazon needs to be kneecapped via anti-trust efforts or leveraged for deployment against China in our 30+ year undeclared unconventional war against them.
Much like the liberal coastal elites(money & tech) and flyover country(food and energy) need to make a new alliance against shared foes, so do government and oligarch owned business.
I don't know what the answer is, but the RV location for a shared common cause will be found in opposition to China.
Plan B is baked into their DNA...the long march through institutions will continue no matter the election outcome...
I wonder if a comparison could be made between Biden and Shapour Bakhtiar or better perhaps Mehdi Bazargan in Iran during/after the Iranian Revolution.
Wet noodle weak progressive "leaders" that were mere placeholder speed bumps steamrolled by radical momentum.
In other words, this has nothing to do with Biden, and everything to do with what's moving in depth behind Biden, because he is just a placeholder and speed bump.
In other words, this has nothing to do with Biden, and everything to do with what's moving in depth behind Biden, because he is just a placeholder and speed bump.
👍 Biden is nothing more than a useful idiot...he is viewed by the left as merely an extremely malleable placeholder...he is a weak, corrupted man in early stages of cognitive impairment who (wittingly or unwittingly) serves the needs of various foreign and domestic communist/anarchist movements.
Badger52
11-02-2020, 18:26
Much like the liberal coastal elites(money & tech) and flyover country(food and energy) need to make a new alliance against shared foes...Appreciate your other comments above as well.
Given the record of the coastal elites in their statements of how they regard flyovers, and their conduct thus far (or at least tacit approval of the divisiveness) I do not trust them. It is as simply stated as that.
I do not trust them.
Flyovers have often been (and still are in my view) part of the enabling of the elites by their very civility which the elites take as, if not approval, certainly permission to keep conducting themselves increasingly in a manner that doesn't engender trust.
Flyovers are typically not the instigators of things that threaten the individual liberty of elites; it's more the other way 'round. Whether it's a real or vacant threat is immaterial, perceptions matter. Flyovers are seemingly more likely to have the view that people should be taken at their word. You tell me that if you get the "power" you're going to make me do 'x' then I'm going to believe you.
The notion of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" is frought with danger, and that has been borne out many times in history. (My Polish friends enjoy discussing this with me at a rather high energy level.) And the elites are being politically led by a cabal of betrayers; whether to the country directly via tolerance for anarchy, or due to conflict in being the whores in the business-bed of the new "Main Adversary." (This last is a bi-partisan affliction.)
I do not (currently) see a path forward toward reconciliation - and part & parcel of that is I don't honor what the elites have decided to term "reconciliation." The criteria as described by them, in American-speak, well, it sounds like "surrender." But I'm just a flyover. I don't think we're going to get to the point where honest brokers are present to advocate the (very noble) notion of uniting against a common foe, without some "bottom" being reached. And that bottom is likely to have blood pooling on it.
I will not comply & give up the straw in my drink, wear a mask in situations where none is needed, consent to my children being indoctrinated about scientific impossibilities, parse my words to avoid offending someone I've never met, or let the sins of someone else's fathers be visited on me. That's just my view but I'm not alone.
If they're really patient they can wait till me & my kind are gone but it might take a reckoning with that Dragon across the way for them to think, "we sure could use 'em now, maybe we should've just let those m'fers be."
Ahh, dinner calls. Flyover food.
:)
p.s. McCarthy was right.
Why would major cities in America need to board up entire city blocks in preparation for “peaceful protestors” ?
We know that Republican’s didn’t burn cities during two Obama terms...
This prep is for Biden supporters...win, lose or draw Biden/Harris should be so proud.
Old Dog New Trick
11-02-2020, 19:46
Why would major cities in America need to board up entire city blocks in preparation for “peaceful protestors” ?
We know that Republican’s didn’t burn cities during two Obama terms...
This prep is for Biden supporters...win, lose or draw Biden/Harris should be so proud.
You said peaceful protesters. :p
The only peaceful protesters I’ve seen lately have a Trump 2020 flag waving in their hands or affixed to their car/truck.
The interesting part is that they consistently outnumbered the radical protesters for which the plywood and fences have been erected for.
I’m encouraged by what I see lately.
You said peaceful protesters. :p
The only peaceful protesters I’ve seen lately have a Trump 2020 flag waving in their hands or affixed to their car/truck.
The interesting part is that they consistently outnumbered the radical protesters for which the plywood and fences have been erected for.
I’m encouraged by what I see lately.
The energy emanating from DJT (and supporters) is truly encouraging.
In contrast, the ability for some states to extend the outcome for days if not weeks is a bit discouraging.
A landslide would be a nice mandate to quickly squash the expected violence and looting.
Win, or lose DJT has exposed the swamp, the violent, extreme left in America and much of the corrupt media. Anyone who says they can’t see the corruption is not paying attention.
Badger52
11-02-2020, 20:13
Win, or lose DJT has exposed the swamp, the violent, extreme left in America and much of the corrupt media.That is why HH6 here calls herself a Trumper, not a Republican or Democrat. What you just said - if NOTHING else - that is a legacy and undeniable.
That is why HH6 here calls herself a Trumper, not a Republican or Democrat. What you just said - if NOTHING else - that is a legacy and undeniable.
3 Supremes ain’t bad either ;) !
:lifter
Former special forces and intelligence professionals purport to debunk the theory that Antifa is 'ideological' rather than a cohesive threat
Local and federal law enforcement agencies around the country have had security plans drawn up for weeks in anticipation of any possible civil unrest that may be triggered by the results of the 2020 presidential election.
Major cities – still reeling from a summer of relentless demonstrations and riots – are bolstering securities in their downtown areas as shops board up their windows.
Security experts say that there are a legitimate concern and reason for cities to brace for brutality.
“Our intelligence shows that no matter who wins the election, they [Antifa] are planning a massive ‘Antifa Tet Offensive,’ bent on destroying the global order they are not beholden to any one party,” Robert Lewis told Fox News. “Their sole purpose is to create havoc, fear, and intimidation.”
Lewis is a former U.S. Army Green Beret and founder of First Amendment Praetorian (1AP), a crowdfunded, volunteer force of military, law enforcement, and intel agency community professionals “standing up to protect the First Amendment and those who use it.”
1AP bills itself as a team dedicated to providing "intelligence and security services to protect grassroots events from fear of outside agitators and disruptors" with the purpose of "making patriotic and religious events safe again."
"We specifically focus on grassroots religious or political events. Larger companies can afford to hire their own security and intelligence teams, but we want the smaller and grassroots organizations to be able to keep safe," Lewis said.
Short for "anti-fascist," the left-wing group has come under intense scrutiny by the White House and Justice Department as an acute security threat, with President Trump earlier this year threatening to label the outfit a terrorist organization. However, critics of the administration's focus on the shadowy leftist collective insist that the peril posed has been overplayed dramatically.
Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden has also framed Antifa as an "ideology" rather than a cohesive body, as was depicted by FBI director Christopher Wray.
But, the likes of Lewis and those at the helm of 1AP – comprised of hundreds of volunteers with backgrounds working in law enforcement, government intelligence, military, and special operations – begged to differ.
Lewis said that while they started primarily as a security service, efforts on intel collection have ramped up in recent months, which includes a significant number of their volunteers quietly "embedding" with Antifa-like wings. Their intel efforts, he said, have also brought to life a trove of documents that indicate Antifa is far from a hodge-podge, spur-of-the-moment mobilization.
"We use the traditional intelligence fusion cycle – planning and direction, collection, processing, analysis and production, dissemination, re-evaluation. We are currently in the Collection phase, and we have HUMINT, SIGINT, OSINT, and TECHINT capabilities," he continued. "And like any network, the [Antifa] planning and funding comes from a few main sources and people, and then is splintered, filtered, and laundered out to their many 'affinity groups' to maintain the 'no organization lie.'"
In the report breakdown of one Washington, D.C., event helmed by the volunteer group in October, personnel depicted Antifa as having "organizers, spotters, people to probe our defenses and operatives who changed clothes multiple times at the event to try and evade detection."
"They also attempted to launch PSYOPS and, if you believe it, tried (once again) to insert a false Russian collusion / operative narrative via an 'actor' at the event," 1AP states. "The most interesting part is when they start fake fights with each other to try and draw onlookers into the fray."
Lewis also maintains that Antifa is "much more advanced than people give them credit for in terms of intelligence collection and counterintelligence" and that they are "frequently changing their Tactics, Techniques, and Procedures (TTPs) and logistics."
"For anyone who believes Antifa is just a grassroots idea and their attacks are organic, we have a simple answer: do organic, spur of the moment movements and actions need logistics?" he continued, citing multiple open-source documents that point to "having a comprehensive funding and planning group, a PR group and logistics."
1AP's collection and analysis allege a network of food distributors to sustain "foot soldiers on the ground," along with fundraising efforts for financials, and pre-planned events, "which negates the 'organic, spur of the moment' talking point directly."
"How else did they have pallets of bricks pre-positioned on street corners? How do they have a comprehensive legal network ready to defend and bail out their operatives and foot soldiers at the drop of a hat?" Lewis continued, underscoring that the apparent "leaderless" movement is comprised of different cells nationwide, with "inner circles and outer circles."
"The inner circle only meets with certain leaders of the outer circle, who then pass the directions off to their peripheral groups – these cells in the other circle can be anywhere from five to thousands of people," Lewis claimed. "This exact methodology is what allows them to say they aren't an organized group, as the majority of their numbers are made up by these peripheral groups or cells."
In the 1AP view, Antifa is a "deliberately decentralized organization" in which there is "no overall leader" – and yet a number of cells are issued "similar instructions, or specific, complementary instructions with other sections they were working with. "
"This strongly indicates a model of command where individual cell leaders are given instructions in private or through anonymous media," Lewis contended. "There is zero possibility of such a large 'coincidence.'"
Moreover, Lewis claimed that professional analysts on their team routinely "scour the internet, social media, and dark web," with some "infiltrating their encrypted forums to have an ear out for anything they are saying and planning," highlighting that the level of operational security and tech-savviness of the Antifa-affiliated is especially advanced.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/volunteer-group-antifa-election-violence-outcome
Watching the Kenosha Rally tonight a thought popped into my head (or maybe an aneurism) when he was talking about who supports Biden. Since he weaves several topics together, I would love for him to have jumped to, "By the way, did you hear about what SEAL Team Six did in Nigeria? Aren't they great? They just pop up where you'd never suspect. Beautiful, right? Beautiful. But, hey, I remember where I was, so where's the Biden money coming from? Ever wondered?"
Soros’ money can certainly catalyze things, but can it actually create capacity and capability?
I’m thinking no.
I’ve always thought of Soros as a money man, rather than the boogeyman.
Yup. The finance guy in an insurgent network is always pretty high priority in the target deck, for good reason. Passion alone doesn’t put food in your belly.
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I don't know anything about OPTOR other than what you mention, but I do agree the attention towards Soro's is a bit out of focus as far as central character of evil. He's the money man, the enabler. But there are others such as Tom Steyer that are involved as well.
Capacity and Capability might come from people like for example Hardy Merriman, Ankur Asthana, Marium Navid, and Kifah Shah that are mentioned in a Breitbart article today. They are said to "have been conducting daily training and outcome simulations." According to the article Merriamn worked with Gene Sharp.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/11/02/top-coup-experts-training-left-with-revolutionary-tactics-ahead-of-election/
Another article today brings to light what's going on behind the scenes and who's involved. Federal employees were apparently busted through a leaked ZOOM call.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/whosever-got-guns-wins-election-night-coup-detat-radical-leftist-groups-plot-siege-white-house-takeover-major-us-cities-beginning-tuesday/
And that appears to me to substantiate much of what was contained in Penn's link as to what stage we are at and who's involved.
It's quite the organized plot.
I don't know anything about OPTOR other than what you mention, but I do agree the attention towards Soro's is a bit out of focus as far as central character of evil. He's the money man, the enabler. But there are others such as Tom Steyer that are involved as well.
Capacity and Capability might come from people like for example Hardy Merriman, Ankur Asthana, Marium Navid, and Kifah Shah that are mentioned in a Breitbart article today. They are said to "have been conducting daily training and outcome simulations." According to the article Merriamn worked with Gene Sharp.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/11/02/top-coup-experts-training-left-with-revolutionary-tactics-ahead-of-election/
Another article today brings to light what's going on behind the scenes and who's involved. Federal employees were apparently busted through a leaked ZOOM call.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/whosever-got-guns-wins-election-night-coup-detat-radical-leftist-groups-plot-siege-white-house-takeover-major-us-cities-beginning-tuesday/
And that appears to me to substantiate much of what was contained in Penn's link as to what stage we are at and who's involved.
It's quite the organized plot.
Gene Sharp is certainly the professor of western non-violent political resistance.
Used with great effect in Eastern Europe to defeat communism(Singing Revolution in the Baltics was brilliant), but now the same tools and doctrine are being turned inwards.
In the US, it’s largely the Left that has rediscovered and leveraged the tools and doctrine, which is a real shame.
Gene Sharp’s work likely has had an even greater impact on the world than William Demming’s work in manufacturing on Total Quality Management(Toyota and then every other auto manufacturer).
I like Breitbart, but I seriously doubt the Left will resort to organised industrial scale mass violence post election.
Mass disruption, mass monkeywrenching, and scattered violence? Absolutely.
If the Left attempt a Tet Offensive equivalent post election, I reckon it will be 100x worse for them than their current shenanigans.
I’ve been half joking that this reminds me of that scene in It’s a Wonderful Life where “Everytime a bell rings an angel gets his wings”.
The reality is “Everytime a business is looted, a car is burned, and/or a person is forced to swear allegiance to BLM, Trump gets X votes.”
West German public opinion polls displayed a shockingly high level of support for Baader Meinhoff Red Army Faction, right up until they shifted to violence.
Then they were hunted down and liquidated with little complaint from any other than the hard left fringe.
It’s odd and uncomfortable to be hoping the Left chooses violence as a less effective and more likely/decisive defeat for them.
Appreciate your other comments above as well.
Given the record of the coastal elites in their statements of how they regard flyovers, and their conduct thus far (or at least tacit approval of the divisiveness) I do not trust them. It is as simply stated as that.
I do not trust them.
Flyovers have often been (and still are in my view) part of the enabling of the elites by their very civility which the elites take as, if not approval, certainly permission to keep conducting themselves increasingly in a manner that doesn't engender trust.
Flyovers are typically not the instigators of things that threaten the individual liberty of elites; it's more the other way 'round. Whether it's a real or vacant threat is immaterial, perceptions matter. Flyovers are seemingly more likely to have the view that people should be taken at their word. You tell me that if you get the "power" you're going to make me do 'x' then I'm going to believe you.
The notion of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" is frought with danger, and that has been borne out many times in history. (My Polish friends enjoy discussing this with me at a rather high energy level.) And the elites are being politically led by a cabal of betrayers; whether to the country directly via tolerance for anarchy, or due to conflict in being the whores in the business-bed of the new "Main Adversary." (This last is a bi-partisan affliction.)
I do not (currently) see a path forward toward reconciliation - and part & parcel of that is I don't honor what the elites have decided to term "reconciliation." The criteria as described by them, in American-speak, well, it sounds like "surrender." But I'm just a flyover. I don't think we're going to get to the point where honest brokers are present to advocate the (very noble) notion of uniting against a common foe, without some "bottom" being reached. And that bottom is likely to have blood pooling on it.
I will not comply & give up the straw in my drink, wear a mask in situations where none is needed, consent to my children being indoctrinated about scientific impossibilities, parse my words to avoid offending someone I've never met, or let the sins of someone else's fathers be visited on me. That's just my view but I'm not alone.
If they're really patient they can wait till me & my kind are gone but it might take a reckoning with that Dragon across the way for them to think, "we sure could use 'em now, maybe we should've just let those m'fers be."
Ahh, dinner calls. Flyover food.
:)
p.s. McCarthy was right.
It is hard to find common ground, especially against ideological opponents within the same Republic.
But that’s the beauty of it, the Left and Right can live in adjacent States within the Republic and run their respective experiments.
And if you’re unhappy with the ultra local environment, you can vote with your feet and move to another “country” within the Republic.
That’s the theory anyway
One of the coolest and most troubling trends I’ve noticed in the last 24 months is close friends and acquaintances moving to Texas, mirrored by high profile individuals moving to Texas.
It’s a pattern that both proves the beautiful design of the Republic as well as possibly foreshadowing a “flight to safety” for people akin to the same for investments in times of trouble.
Maybe trust and truth are too much to ask for in expectations of ideological opponents, but maybe necessity might play a positive role.
I’m trying hard to be an optimist :)
Only unlawful combatants should have to drink out of paper straws for enhanced interrogation exceptions.
There's an interesting Millie Weaver video with the title Election Night Coup D'état Plot Exposed! on that video site we cannot mention......It's a Zoom meeting of radicals talking coup, person whom many of which are within the government.
Badger52
11-03-2020, 05:57
One of the coolest and most troubling trends I’ve noticed in the last 24 months is close friends and acquaintances moving to Texas, mirrored by high profile individuals moving to Texas.
It’s a pattern that both proves the beautiful design of the Republic as well as possibly foreshadowing a “flight to safety” for people akin to the same for investments in times of trouble.
Maybe trust and truth are too much to ask for in expectations of ideological opponents, but maybe necessity might play a positive role.
I’m trying hard to be an optimist :)
I remember seeing a pic of a roadsign in Delaware facing west into Maryland on the highway saying "We're full. Go home."
Only unlawful combatants should have to drink out of paper straws for enhanced interrogation exceptions.
:D
Flagg, I live in Texas (San Antonio). The problem is that Texas could very-well turn blue. All these transplants from Commiefornia and the occupied territories come here for "freedom" but they also pack-their commie-ideology in the U-Haul with them. They vote for the very-same shit that soiled their own nest back "home."
With Houston, Dallas, Austin all solidly Blue, it won't take much to turn the State blue. Look at Illinois (ruled by the savages in Cook County); Maryland; Virginia; etc. Great people all through the state but ruled by the goblins in one or two counties.
Flagg, I live in Texas (San Antonio). The problem is that Texas could very-well turn blue. All these transplants from Commiefornia and the occupied territories come here for "freedom" but they also pack-their commie-ideology in the U-Haul with them. They vote for the very-same shit that soiled their own nest back "home."
With Houston, Dallas, Austin all solidly Blue, it won't take much to turn the State blue. Look at Illinois (ruled by the savages in Cook County); Maryland; Virginia; etc. Great people all through the state but ruled by the goblins in one or two counties.
I have read a few stories that mirror your post.
It is troubling.
I’ve read TV shows like Yellowstone in recent years combined with flight from CV19 have inspired many and led to an enormous influx of coastal elites trying to convert overpriced Silicon Valley real estate into a Wyoming or Montana ranch.
The tipping point for red to blue states may be considerable in % terms, but in raw # terms are potentially quite vulnerable.
My hope is that the massive void of high paying tech jobs leaving California causes so much obvious damage that it sharply influences the deportees future choices in their new locations.
Will these remote work carpetbaggers act like locusts or learning human beings?
RCummings
11-03-2020, 12:35
The early reports from WY and Montana is the transplants don't last the winter and if they do they leave in the spring. Realtors making book on the side for the outcome. Don't have firsthand information about TX, maybe they'll stay. Too bad for the great state of Texas.
V/R
bblhead672
11-03-2020, 15:13
Flagg, I live in Texas (San Antonio). The problem is that Texas could very-well turn blue. All these transplants from Commiefornia and the occupied territories come here for "freedom" but they also pack-their commie-ideology in the U-Haul with them. They vote for the very-same shit that soiled their own nest back "home."
With Houston, Dallas, Austin all solidly Blue, it won't take much to turn the State blue. Look at Illinois (ruled by the savages in Cook County); Maryland; Virginia; etc. Great people all through the state but ruled by the goblins in one or two counties.
Alas...too true.
Just out of curiosity - but using previous violent, flaming, but otherwise peaceful protest templates - shouldn't many of these big-city businesses be writing "Biden voter" on the front of their stores?
It reportedly worked during the LA riots and the peaceful Jorge Floid riots - why not save money on plywood and just let the mob know that your on their side?
Just out of curiosity - but using previous violent, flaming, but otherwise peaceful protest templates - shouldn't many of these big-city businesses be writing "Biden voter" on the front of their stores?
It reportedly worked during the LA riots and the peaceful Jorge Floid riots - why not save money on plywood and just let the mob know that your on their side?
The mob could care less whose side your on, Portland and Chicago mayors know all about that.
Badger52
11-03-2020, 20:32
Just out of curiosity - but using previous violent, flaming, but otherwise peaceful protest templates - shouldn't many of these big-city businesses be writing "Biden voter" on the front of their stores?
It reportedly worked during the LA riots and the peaceful Jorge Floid riots - why not save money on plywood and just let the mob know that your on their side?Well, it's hard to believe, but they actually thought of that. It didn't work out for 1 governor & 2 mayors in the Pac NW, who even had their homes "tagged" (and I'm talking way beyond that rattle-can job on the AR) and windows smashed. It also didn't work out for a couple of Starbucks said stores even being actually in their spiritual home of Seattle. :eek:
Besides Biden/Harris signs, there were BLM (in African colors of course) and the Antifan resistance fist and, in general, a bunch of other "Please Don't Hurt Me" pleadings. Doesn't help. Even the Antifans shout at Biden supporters:
Protester scolds crowd for supporting Biden at BLM Plaza (https://twitter.com/nieto_phillip/status/1323795116889415680).
“The system is worse than Trump ... the camps were started under Obama.”
I could be wrong but I think they will not be swayed by nice words. Now it could be that my vocabulary appropriate to them is limited so there might be some other method of bringing them around but I am bereft of ideas of how that might be done verbally.
Old Dog New Trick
11-03-2020, 20:36
I say let them burn it all down. I don’t live there, don’t shop there, don’t need to go there to live my life. I may miss showing my family some of our American history but there are pictures and I bought an Encyclopedia set when I was young.
Burn it all the fu*k down! Burn the universities, burn the state houses!
In five years no one will miss them.
I say let them burn it all down. I don’t live there, don’t shop there, don’t need to go there to live my life. I may miss showing my family some of our American history but there are pictures and I bought an Encyclopedia set when I was young.
Burn it all the fu*k down! Burn the universities, burn the state houses!
In five years no one will miss them.
I like how you think;)
I say let them burn it all down. I don’t live there, don’t shop there, don’t need to go there to live my life. I may miss showing my family some of our American history but there are pictures and I bought an Encyclopedia set when I was young.
Burn it all the fu*k down! Burn the universities, burn the state houses!
In five years no one will miss them.
Could not agree more. I’m prepared I have cash on hand full tank of gas food water etc. and if I need to skip this joint I’m ready.
Flagg, I live in Texas (San Antonio). The problem is that Texas could very-well turn blue. All these transplants from Commiefornia and the occupied territories come here for "freedom" but they also pack-their commie-ideology in the U-Haul with them. They vote for the very-same shit that soiled their own nest back "home."
With Houston, Dallas, Austin all solidly Blue, it won't take much to turn the State blue. Look at Illinois (ruled by the savages in Cook County); Maryland; Virginia; etc. Great people all through the state but ruled by the goblins in one or two counties.
Cheers for the post!
I have to admit to being a bit shocked to see
Austin: 3 to 1 blue
Dallas: 2 to 1 blue
Houston: 1.5 to 1 blue
The rest of Texas solid red, but troubling.
As a Philly Eagles fan, I say all kinds of horrible things about the Dallas Cowboys, but I never doubted their political affiliation, until now!
I'm reminded a bit of the Alien film franchise and terraforming of planets applied to the terraforming of states.
Just like the 2016 election was about the Supreme Court(success!), I'm concerned about the possibility of a concerted effort to terraform a few low pop states.
Folks like uber wealthy tech-lefty Reid Hoffman(PayPal, LinkedIn) who got busted playing political games with his hand in the cookie jar since 2016 could personally finance( or seriously influence) enough remote tech workers into low pop states to flip the Senate.
Not a one off short-term campaign, but political terraforming over 5-10-20 years could be a real threat.
Covid-19 has dispersed "left-tech" workers to the four winds, increasingly to lower pop density lifestyle related areas without the requirement for jobs, since they work remotely.
It's been stated before that the show Yellowstone and CV19 saw a lot of folks moving to Montana/Wyoming, but with many losing their appetite when winter hits.
I wonder how "left-tech" dispersal and their money plays out politically?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2018/12/26/internet-billionaire-reid-hoffman-apologizes-funding-group-behind-disinformation-alabama-race/
FlagDayNCO
11-05-2020, 07:02
Flagg has some good points.
We have seen a tremendous number of NY plated vehicles and people move in here to rural Bucks County PA. This has been going on for decades and we have a very small (by population) township of Durham that has pretty much been taken over by Leftists. A couple moved in, purchasing dilapidated old homes and had the NY cash to fix them up. They spread the word amongst friends and like minded people came and did the same.
This is something I think Flagg is missing and many overlook.
Like minded in the sense they want to and plan to spread their ideals and political beliefs. They do not come here just for the scenery, quiet life and solitude. They come here to also change things. One even purchased an old school to convert into “luxury” apartments.
They attended every township meeting, often being the only “audience” members.
Within a couple years a few of them were elected in positions. Today, they control the township committee.
The geographical “center of town” looks like a rural NYC, with all the BLM and leftist signs on the lawns.
Strategically, they are upriver on the Delaware River and have been very vocal in every meeting and movement to stifle anything that is not in line with their views. They have the power of a municipality, which is not considered. They have a seat at the table in local, state and regional activities.
And they did this with just a handful of people.
TOMAHAWK9521
11-05-2020, 09:03
Commiefornians did the same in Colorado. A lot of bay area people moved in to the rural foothills along the Front Range and built massive, multi-million, single unit structures-right next to each other. They essentially rebuilt their bay area neighborhood in Colorado. :mad:
Every state in this nation has been invaded by liberals. If nothing, they are consistent and patient in taking over the major cities that allow them to invade. The rural locations are simply losing their power in elections.
Every state in this nation has been invaded by liberals. If nothing, they are consistent and patient in taking over the major cities that allow them to invade. The rural locations are simply losing their power in elections.
They are a virus; instead of COVID-19 we need to worry about LIBERAL-21
Same in my area which was deep red prior to Zero. Since then Cerner (for one) moved in, the USDA moved in, worthless academics, lots libs bought properties and built mini-mansions and a bunch of brainwashed college graduate first home buyers.
It's a shame, but kind of funny in a twisted way. What is funny is that when things go South, and they will, all these clowns will be on the menu of those that they support ie BLM, ANTIFA, DSA, etc.
tom kelly
11-06-2020, 13:51
The 1 %er's are at the top of the list, by controlling >90% of the wealth. BEZOS will be the first American Trillion-air & just think that his ex wife settled the divorce for a mere $26 billion. Soros is low income in this neighborhood. The U S money supply is > then 7 trillion $. Paper money is becoming worthless, Gold has some intrinsic value , you can make jewelry or teeth with it. Tomorrow you will need things to survive. You won't need gold teeth or jewelry...If you saw this coming you should be ready, if not; GOOD LUCK.
It's amazing how much money and resources Spooky Dude throws at changing the world and playing God. It's even more amazing he hasn't received a 'gift' from above like General Soleimani.
From Townhall:
https://townhall.com/columnists/frankwright/2020/11/01/george-soross-plan-b-if-biden-loses-n2579176
So why is he arrested for treason by FBI? At least treatment like Qasem Soleimani!
:munchin
I need a fucking time machine so I can go back to the 1990's so I can tell mother fuckers that called me a conspiracy nut...
...evolving standards to force women through the SFQC
...transgendered troops will be celebrated in service
...legalization of REAL drugs not just a few harmless tokes of reefer
...overt commie democrats pushing the nation into socialism
...democrat money buying red states at a fever pace
Nope, cant happen here, this new internet thing has everyone connected and there's no waaaaay that the American people would ever fall for these shenanigans. The reality of course is we all know that those Texas cow-towns are growing - they'll be full of San Franciscans in a few years, and just as sophisticated.
I.TOLD.YOU.SO.
I.FUCKING.TOLD.YOU.SO.
rsdengler
11-30-2020, 08:53
Do you read Palms? Because I'd definitely throw some money in your tip jar.....:D
Gee, I'm waiting for the long bread lines so I could at least laugh and yell "watch your carbs comrades"....Lol...This Country is going down a rocky path; idiot Politicians and the people who voted for those Chavez wannabees....
..evolving standards to force women through the SFQC
...transgendered troops will be celebrated in service
Does this mean a guy with testicles can ID as a woman and get in on reduced SFQC standards?? :confused:
Gee, that means there's still hope for me!! I'll ask to be put on Box's team!! Hey Box, wanna share a fox hole?? :D
Does this mean a guy with testicles can ID as a woman and get in on reduced SFQC standards?? :confused:
"The standards have not changed" - at least that's what I've been told
but yes, you can identify however you like - diversity is our first, middle, and last name
Do you read Palms? Because I'd definitely throw some money in your tip jar.....:D
Palms
Tea Leaves
Comic Books
Centerfold Bio's
Text Books
Manifesto's
You name it - I'll read it - especially if it has pictures; I read pictures.
rsdengler
11-30-2020, 13:09
Palms
Tea Leaves
Comic Books
Centerfold Bio's
Text Books
Manifesto's
You name it - I'll read it - especially if it has pictures; I read pictures.
Excellent......your tip jar will be overflowing with moolah my fine fellow......Would you care for a Slurpee Straw with that Hustler magazine? Lol.....:p
tom kelly
11-30-2020, 14:36
George is 90 + years old, Generally Hated around the world, Has anyone seen or heard him speak recently ? He may be the L Ron Hubbard of the MMXX.
I need a fucking time machine so I can go back to the 1990's so I can tell mother fuckers that called me a conspiracy nut...
...evolving standards to force women through the SFQC
...transgendered troops will be celebrated in service
...legalization of REAL drugs not just a few harmless tokes of reefer
...overt commie democrats pushing the nation into socialism
...democrat money buying red states at a fever pace
I'm crossing threads here ....I believe we are losing our standards everywhere because we really are losing our people.....
Bubba...I feel your pain...but it’s our people and not our parchment that is our problem.
“Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”
~John Adams
Our higher educational system has indoctrinated too many folks with concepts and ideas that are immoral, subversive and flat out wrong.
It’s our people, our values, our attention span...it’s not the parchment.
Hold onto that parchment - but we must fix our people.
ETA, I agree that higher education is a liberal mess. We need to get to the kids much sooner though. We need competetion for the government run schools. Let the NEA keep their mess and give people options(vouchers) for quality education, rather than sub-standard education and anti-USA indoctrination.
Badger52
12-01-2020, 06:13
We need competetion for the government run schools. Let the NEA keep their mess and give people options(vouchers) for quality education, rather than sub-standard education and anti-USA indoctrination.If Trump does not prevail, you can count on Biden to put in a secretary for the Department of Indoctrination that will do a Walmart Roll-back™ of the things Trump supported, such as more local policies, support for school choice, charter & home schooling. "The child belongs to The State."
If Trump does not prevail, yuu can count on Biden to put in an secretary for the Department of Indoctrination that will do a Walmart Roll-back™ of the things Trump supported, such as more local policies, support for school choice, charter & home schooling. "The child belongs to The State."
And don't forget about turning in all your guns.
We the people have empowered those who would accelerate the deterioration of American exceptionalism. It's fun to blame this on people like Soros and his cabal of globalists - but they have their power because we the people have ceded it to them.
A government of the people, by the people, and for the people demands one simple effort - responsible behavior. We have spent the last 50 years behaving like very irresponsible citizens and an irresponsible nation is often blessed with irresponsible leaders. Now, because of our irresponsible behavior as a citizen body, we find ourselves with some of the most irresponsible, most corrupt leaders that money can buy and we keep putting them RIGHT back into office - year after year after year after year.
While thugs were out rioting and setting things on fire, those same irresponsible national leaders went on TV wearing Kente-Cloth scarfs to kneel in support of the violent Marxists that were decimating cities.
Admittedly, I'm all talk - or else, earlier in the summer when thugs were out setting stuff on fire and bashing in windows, I'd have been out doors with an ax handle cracking skulls.
I choose to stay at home and let those elected leaders handle it for me - the irresponsible, corrupt, opportunistic leaders that I so enjoy complaining about - now, here we are.
We the people have empowered a system that is increasingly striving to legalize dangerous drugs for recreational use while making me display proper identification before I can purchase my ration of Mucinex-D.
...I've got to display ID to buy Mucinex, but those same leaders say its racist to ask for ID at the voting booth.
Garbage In = Garbage Out
Fucking George Soros - this is all his fault.
The 1 %er's are at the top of the list, by controlling >90% of the wealth. .....
In 2018 you only had to earn $158,002 to be in the top 10%.
https://www.investopedia.com/personal-finance/how-much-income-puts-you-top-1-5-10/
When most people think of the "top 10% are rich" I don't think they think the line is drawn at $158,002.
tom kelly
12-01-2020, 13:08
WEALTH is power The Top 10% are not wealthy if all they have is money which is a medium of exchange.Wealth is having all ASSETS of worth, plentiful supplies of a particular resource that will sustain your health, security, freedom and your standard of living. Total market value of physical and intangible assets owned than subtracting or cancelling all debts. Essentially, wealth is the accumulation of scarce resources. If you have power you can cancel debt and acquire others assets.
rsdengler
12-02-2020, 08:10
We the people have empowered those who would accelerate the deterioration of American exceptionalism. It's fun to blame this on people like Soros and his cabal of globalists - but they have their power because we the people have ceded it to them.
A government of the people, by the people, and for the people demands one simple effort - responsible behavior. We have spent the last 50 years behaving like very irresponsible citizens and an irresponsible nation is often blessed with irresponsible leaders. Now, because of our irresponsible behavior as a citizen body, we find ourselves with some of the most irresponsible, most corrupt leaders that money can buy and we keep putting them RIGHT back into office - year after year after year after year.
While thugs were out rioting and setting things on fire, those same irresponsible national leaders went on TV wearing Kente-Cloth scarfs to kneel in support of the violent Marxists that were decimating cities.
Admittedly, I'm all talk - or else, earlier in the summer when thugs were out setting stuff on fire and bashing in windows, I'd have been out doors with an ax handle cracking skulls.
I choose to stay at home and let those elected leaders handle it for me - the irresponsible, corrupt, opportunistic leaders that I so enjoy complaining about - now, here we are.
We the people have empowered a system that is increasingly striving to legalize dangerous drugs for recreational use while making me display proper identification before I can purchase my ration of Mucinex-D.
...I've got to display ID to buy Mucinex, but those same leaders say its racist to ask for ID at the voting booth.
Garbage In = Garbage Out
Fucking George Soros - this is all his fault.
We let the "new world order" just sneak it's way into our lives without putting pressure on those scum of the earth politician's and their Stasi bedfellows. Look at the sh*t that people keep electing into office, it's like the freakin landfill; dumping the rotten putrid garbage just to recycle it to the public. Will we be a Republic after this 4 years of this Sh*t Show? To the hills mates, to the hills because we need to stop sitting on our asses and allowing the illegitimate Politicians to lead us around by our nose ring....Burn that damn garbage and let the ashes float upwards and dissipate forever. Gee, I'm getting to old and weary for this sh*t, but don't poke the tiger, it's bound to bite back....;)
It didn't sneak in - we the people invited it through the front door. Bush Senior advertised it "Out of these troubled times, our fifth objective — a new world order — can emerge"
Big intrusive government is the only bipartisan effort that our oligarchy understands.
Hell, Bush Jr even chastised we the people for not respecting "the governing class"
Incrementalism isn't sneaky - it's in your face - every day. Give them an inch and they take a yard.
Give a bureaucrat some rope and they IMMEDIATELY start acting like a rodeo cowboy.
Overton's window and all that jazz.
...of course we all know Overton's window and the deep state are just a right wing conspiracy delusions - amIright?
Golf1echo
12-02-2020, 11:38
Very tight groups Box and sad indeed...
I was beginning to wonder if the “ Puppet Master “ was really a Broadway choreographer?
Apologize in advance for this link to the new yorker, hard to imagine that they have even called out the self absorbed adolescents that walk the halls of government.
Recommend having some eye bleach handy or at least put your drink down.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newyorker.com/culture/on-and-off-the-avenue/the-embarrassment-of-democrats-wearing-kente-cloth-stoles/amp
Old Dog New Trick
12-02-2020, 12:15
Very tight groups Box and sad indeed...
I was beginning to wonder if the “ Puppet Master “ was really a Broadway choreographer?
Apologize in advance for this link to the new yorker, hard to imagine that they have even called out the self absorbed adolescents that walk the halls of government.
Recommend having some eye bleach handy or at least put your drink down.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newyorker.com/culture/on-and-off-the-avenue/the-embarrassment-of-democrats-wearing-kente-cloth-stoles/amp
I'm surprised the New Yorker printed that. Well, at least they aren't the Atlantic.
NurseTim
12-09-2020, 00:44
As Mike T said...
“Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face!”
As I just told my 13y/o son not to panic about what comes after the election. Regardless of who wins the radical left will not be happy or content. The good news is more Americans have seen what’s behind doors number 1...2...and 3 than ever before. Trump pulled the curtains back.
If Trump wins there will be violence from BLM/Antifa against our liberal cities. And some of that will spill over into suburbia to the point where they will get “punched in the face!” After awhile they will get tired of getting punched in the face and return to the basements where they will go back to playing Call of Duty and drinking out of a sippy cup.
If Biden wins, we will patiently wait until the 2024 election and resist the changes the progressive left attempted under the Obama/Biden. It might not even take but 2-years for the bastards to get voted out of office at the local level and the congress.
The Republic is not dead until the patriots give up.
If this election, with its blatant fraud and larceny, is not answered, and is let stand, then they will know for certain that they can steal any election they like and will not suffer any consequences whatsoever. Elections will have all the meaning of nk elections or soviet elections.
I believe this has been a coup d’état, involving foreign unfriendly nations. The democrats and never trumpers have sold our country to the highest bidder.
If this election, with its blatant fraud and larceny, is not answered, and is let stand, then they will know for certain that they can steal any election they like and will not suffer any consequences whatsoever. Elections will have all the meaning of nk elections or soviet elections.
I believe this has been a coup d’état, involving foreign unfriendly nations. The democrats and never trumpers have sold our country to the highest bidder.
I believe the Dem could well end up like Yamamoto. He failed to really understand the true grit of American's. The human desire for the freedom of recognition is a major reason why the totalitarian state is unlikely to prevail.
I believe the Dem could well end up like Yamamoto. He failed to really understand the true grit of American's. The human desire for the freedom of recognition is a major reason why the totalitarian state is unlikely to prevail.
Yamamoto fully understood true American grit. He lived and studied here. He couldn't get the Japanese High Command to understand it.
I believe the Dem could well end up like Yamamoto. He failed to really understand the true grit of American's. The human desire for the freedom of recognition is a major reason why the totalitarian state is unlikely to prevail.
Yamamoto has been quoted as saying "I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve". Which was in regards to the attack on Pearl Harbor. I as I recall he was educated in the US. Regardless Japan as a whole did underestimate their enemy. Hitler under estimated the Russian's which probably cost him the war. Mussolini wanted to re-create the Roman Empire. The French and US underestimated the resolve of the Vietnamese. The Russians and the US have both underestimated the resolve of the Afghans. The 'Educated and Snobby' Brits underestimated a bunch of vile underclass Colonists (this one has much in common with the present).
Hubris has a way of biting you in the ass.
Yamamoto has been quoted as saying "I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve". Which was in regards to the attack on Pearl Harbor. I as I recall he was educated in the US. Regardless Japan as a whole did underestimate their enemy. Hitler under estimated the Russian's which probably cost him the war. Mussolini wanted to re-create the Roman Empire. The French and US underestimated the resolve of the Vietnamese. The Russians and the US have both underestimated the resolve of the Afghans.
Hubris has a way of biting you in the ass.
Very true.
Getting out of a quagmire is often a whole lot more difficult than getting into one.
Yamamoto fully understood true American grit. He lived and studied here. He couldn't get the Japanese High Command to understand it.
Gee kinda like equating Americans trying to tell congress and our "elected" officials....
I'm glad some of you are so optimistic.
Over the last ten years I've come across more than sufficient numbers of active duty SF guys that would clack off a three wrap det-cord charge on your front door to come and relive you of your rights because the gubmint has declared you a threat. They wouldn't think twice as long as the CONOP was approved. I've also come across more than a few senior leaders that would SIGN that CONOP.
But i'm sure it's just me - nobody else has ever come across folks like that - probably just isolated experiences.
I've seen more than just one or two folks leave service to get a contracting job because it was the only way they were ever going to get to get paid to "shoot mother fuckers in the face" I've had two different dudes tell me straight out that they wanted to go to a two specific special skills course simply so they could ETS and take it to contracting to make 'real money'
They didn't want to be SF guys to liberate the opressed - they endured the pipeline because they want to shoot motherfuckers in the face and get paid PMC money.
Troops with bad attitudes, bad behavior, and all the while they adore, admire, and worship some of these same senior leaders that spent the last four years undermining the president of the United States.
Folks need to go back and read some old threads - ponder the things we have ALL seen, heard, and commented on about the things said - done - demonstrated by some of the senior leadership in the military at large. Then ponder the overzealous media propagandize the results.
Ponder the fact that it is now an admitted FACT that Syria is still status quo because the establishment and senior leaders said "fuck you Mr President, we arent doing that"
Then tell me again how the military would NEVER be used to do something shifty.
Stay engaged folks - dont let a fraudulent election drive you underground because of frustration. That is exactly what the treasonous left wants you to do. Get frustrated and go home - its far easier to exploit you that way. Emperor Biden and Lord Harris are out there and they have a plan.
Think about this - Anakin Skywalker was the chosen one - how did THAT work out??
Just my two cents - I could be wrong.
Badger52
01-08-2021, 20:30
I've had two different dudes tell me straight out that they wanted to go to a two specific special skills course simply so they could ETS and take it to contracting to make 'real money'. They didn't want to be SF guys to liberate the opressedI believe it , the reality tells me it happens, but it's always sad to hear. After that magazine article when I was a youngster I thought going into the woods with some buddies & coming out with a few hundred little brown guys to kick a dictator's ass was about the greatest thing a fellow could do. I must still be young at heart.
Stay engaged folks - dont let a fraudulent election drive you underground because of frustration. That is exactly what the treasonous left wants you to do. Get frustrated and go home - its far easier to exploit you that way. Emperor Biden and Lord Harris are out there and they have a plan.
Those are good words, thank you for them. I have a handful of folks that are going to be hearing them.
Think about this - Anakin Skywalker was the chosen one - how did THAT work out??
It's never a good idea too put all your faith into one person, unless possibly that one person you trust is you.
Stay engaged folks - dont let a fraudulent election drive you underground because of frustration. That is exactly what the treasonous left wants you to do. Get frustrated and go home - its far easier to exploit you that way. Emperor Biden and Lord Harris are out there and they have a plan.
For many that may be difficult due the Rona Lockdowns. All the places people were normally engaging, School, Sporting Events, Barbershops, Salons, the Gym, Restaurants, Churches and the Workplace have been severely limited or shutdown. In addition today Big Tech began shutting down Conservatives and Conservative Media. Google pull the Parlor App and Apple is threatening to pull it from the iTunes Store. That equates to tens of millions of people being corralled into the Drive-In Theater of Controlled Content.....or maybe a virtual reeducation camp.
Old Dog New Trick
01-08-2021, 21:23
For many that may be difficult due the Rona Lockdowns. All the places people were normally engaging, School, Sporting Events, Barbershops, Salons, the Gym, Restaurants, Churches and the Workplace have been severely limited or shutdown. In addition today Big Tech began shutting down Conservatives and Conservative Media. Google pull the Parlor App and Apple is threatening to pull it from the iTunes Store. That equates to tens of millions of people being corralled into the Drive-In Theater of Controlled Content.....or maybe a virtual reeducation camp.
All politics are local. The people to engage (with) are the local politicians and leaders from council members to mayors and governors. Any successful movement is going to have to start at the lowest levels and progress upwards to the national level. This snake has many heads and they will all have to be cut off until you get to the baby rattle.
100 million plus subscribers canceling their memberships with big tech and media will wake up the echo chamber of the elites in silicone valley to the very fact that they need opposing views to form a diverse point of view for sponsors and advertising.
Conservatives are more than happy to converse in person, over a landline Bell telephone, and through letter writing if that’s what it comes to. We are even pretty good at running an underground print newsletter. If push comes to shove and big business doesn’t want our business then they can live or die by that choice.
Airlines are already in a tough spot financially and they turn away and ban paying customers over mask compliance issues. Drive, next time you need you go somewhere see middle America stop and converse with a stranger in a small town.
Two to four years of this will tank the Democrats and RINOs and those traitors that highlighted themselves this week. Remember all politics are local!