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Lent an old glock to a friend for a shooting competition and he returned it damaged citing the glock was faulty. Anyone had something similar hZappen like this before?
A bit puzzled.
Looks like it's "faulty" as he couldn't run his tank over it. Yeah....that looks like some abusive behavior there.
That looks like it was used as a test gun for someones super hot reloaded ammunition locked in a vise. No way you would not get injury from that type of damage fired by hand.
That looks like it was used as a test gun for someones super hot reloaded ammunition locked in a vise. No way you would not get injury from that type of damage fired by hand.
Agreed, what do the slide and barrel look like?
Is there a bulge or stuck round in the barrel?
:mad:
tom kelly
07-12-2020, 13:38
Some early manufactured Glock pistols DID NOT have a FULLY SUPPORTED barrel and if +P+ ammo or if non commercial ammunition was used in the cartridge fired in the pistol the damage to the pistol could look like your pistol:
You need a new Glock ...
... and a new friend.
twistedsquid
07-12-2020, 17:13
You need a new Glock ...
... and a new friend.
+1
Agreed, what do the slide and barrel look like?
Is there a bulge or stuck round in the barrel?
:mad:
Hi
Avtar Ţórr Singh ahh. Both barrel and slide are intact with no signs of damage other then normal wear and tear
I concur with the above. Someone used some very hot ammo. He’d be buying me a new gun.
Ok. Truth now comes out from the guy who borrowed the glock.
Person tried to strip down the weapon without much gunsmithing knowledge.. seems they tried to pry the frame off without removing pins as well as pry the trigger group out.
The Reaper
07-12-2020, 21:48
You can buy an 80% frame for $130 or so and build it out with your parts if you are feeling generous.
Or lay a good ass-whoopin' on him till he replaces the pistol.
I am pretty much at the point where I have quit loaning my weapons to people who are not kin or who don't possess adequate collateral.
Definitely his fault. Looks to me like they tried to disassemble it without pulling the trigger first and got carried away. Three pins are pretty much all that hold a Glock together.
TR
Combat Diver
07-13-2020, 01:43
He owes you a complete new gun. Total negligence.
CD
Badger52
07-13-2020, 05:05
Or lay a good ass-whoopin' on him till he replaces the pistol.
I am pretty much at the point where I have quit loaning my weapons to people who are not kin or who don't possess adequate collateral.
Definitely his fault. Looks to me like they tried to disassemble it without pulling the trigger first and got carried away. Three pins are pretty much all that hold a Glock together.
TR
He owes you a complete new gun. Total negligence.
CDThe above. Taught my 11yo grand-son to field-strip a Glock in 1 minute (not counting clearing procedure). They are stupid easy to disassemble, let alone just field strip which doesn't require removing any pins. There is obviously a level below stupid that should not even be handling high-pressure garden hose nozzles and that one owes you a new OEM pistola.
Peregrino
07-13-2020, 08:49
Concur with the earlier comments - he owes you a new gun and you need a new friend. Personally, I'd get the new gun before I "ghosted" him though. TR's suggestion to keep the damaged one and reuse the components on an 80% lower is a good way to have your cake and eat it too. Annoying and inconvenient but you come out ahead in the long run.
The term "tool-bag" comes to mind - but to label such sillyness with the term "tool bag" is such a grave injustice to innocent bags with which one might carry tools.
...you should ask if you can borrow his car.
Ok. Truth now comes out from the guy who borrowed the glock.
Person tried to strip down the weapon without much gunsmithing knowledge.. seems they tried to pry the frame off without removing pins as well as pry the trigger group out.
So they did use a vise and a pry bar, no ammunition used in the destruction lol
Make him buy you a new pistol holster and three extra mags along with the new gun.
Ok. Truth now comes out from the guy who borrowed the glock.
Person tried to strip down the weapon without much gunsmithing knowledge.. seems they tried to pry the frame off without removing pins as well as pry the trigger group out.
He sounds like one hell of an idiot. A simple 3 word search On tha Tube would have provided all he needed to know for disassembly.
The term "tool-bag" comes to mind - but to label such sillyness with the term "tool bag" is such a grave injustice to innocent bags with which one might carry tools.
...you should ask if you can borrow his car.
Or his wife. How could anyone return a borrowed gun that looked like that? As much as Team Sergeant dislikes Glocks, I am sure even he would disapprove of treating a "boat anchor" like that.
frostfire
07-15-2020, 12:53
Ok. Truth now comes out from the guy who borrowed the glock.
Person tried to strip down the weapon without much gunsmithing knowledge.. seems they tried to pry the frame off without removing pins as well as pry the trigger group out.
He must have learned how to field strip glock from the ending of Sicario
Lent an old glock to a friend for a shooting competition and he returned it damaged citing the glock was faulty. Anyone had something similar hZappen like this before?
A bit puzzled.
Sounds like his integrity is faulty.
Folks I understand in his AO it is not easy to get a good ol glock, and a legal one would cost up 10x what I paid at the Smyrna factory ($399!)
Your “friend” owes you plenty smackaroos.
That 80% lower may be the way to go but I’m not sure brownells would ship there n I don’t think many would volunteer putting that shape in international flight luggage.
So ask the lyin fiend to get you another firearm.
I think 1911 and FN are more available (outdated intel).
Heck, ask for AKM:D
Two things I NEVER loan out for this exact reason...
My guns
My chainsaw
Ret10Echo
07-15-2020, 13:23
Mean Time to Failure of any borrowed item immediately drops to zero.
Knew it. That was FAR beyond a "kaboom." That was intentional destruction.
Sic Box on him.
aiki ins
07-19-2020, 09:53
Hi There,
Not certain of the caliber or generation of the pistol, however, based on the bent up cruciform, it looks to me as if there was a double charged reload. Glock designs their pistol to blow down through the magazine as opposed to outward, to save the shooters hand. TR suggestion of an 80 percent is a great solution, however you can send the broken frame back to Glock and they should replace it for about $100.00. Call Glock during business hours and they will give you instructions on how to ship the pistol. If it were me i would have the guy pay for the replacement and shipping charges. He is certainly responsible. One final thing, take apart the slide and check all components.
HTH.
doctom54
07-19-2020, 18:35
Two things I NEVER loan out for this exact reason...
My guns
My chainsaw
I concur!!!
You can buy an 80% frame for $130 or so and build it out with your parts if you are feeling generous.
Or lay a good ass-whoopin' on him till he replaces the pistol.
I am pretty much at the point where I have quit loaning my weapons to people who are not kin or who don't possess adequate collateral.
Definitely his fault. Looks to me like they tried to disassemble it without pulling the trigger first and got carried away. Three pins are pretty much all that hold a Glock together.
TR
Agree. Won't be doing it again as well. A good lesson.
He owes you a complete new gun. Total negligence.
CD
He doesn't answer my messages or calls now..so, I guess he knows what he did.
He doesn't answer my messages or calls now..so, I guess he knows what he did.
That exceeds the threshold of dumbassery - that almost sounds as if he did it on purpose.
You should smash his face into a car windshield then take his mother out for a nice seafood dinner and never call her again...
Agree. Won't be doing it again as well. A good lesson.
Power tools and firearms, all it takes is one time learn that no one appreciates your tools as much you do.
Lent an old glock to a friend for a shooting competition and he returned it damaged citing the glock was faulty. Anyone had something similar hZappen like this before?
A bit puzzled.
How could someone even justify going to a shooting competition without their own guns. That must be a normal thing to do with this group, but it sounds strange to me.
If he is responsible enough to shoot, get his own stuff.
You can borrow my anvil, but that is about it.
Search for Glock warranty form or call them and it costs $160 to get an updated frame. Gen1,2 will be updated to Gen 3 frame. Send in the gun and it will get updated to original specs.
You can borrow my anvil, but that is about it.
Hell, I've got friends where even THAT is too much. You lock them in a closet with the anvil and walk away for ten minutes. Come back and that anvil will either be broken, or pregnant.
...I know folks that will give your anvil back broken AND pregnant
https://us.glock.com/en/own/warranty
Email and ask about replacing the frame and what it costs.
Down load the repair pdf
Fill out, make a copy, send copy in with weapon
I have done it with two Glocks.
Ambush Master
10-14-2020, 08:17
Not sure if anyone in here knows, but my Oldest (Air.177 in here), works for Glock USA. He can't pull Rabbits out of Hats, but he is a Contact.
Peregrino
10-14-2020, 11:06
IIRC the problem is exacerbated by the fact that this took place in Indonesia. Hard to ship weapons (in any condition) internationally, especially to countries with restrictive firearms laws. Probably why the miscreant had to borrow a weapon in the first place.
frostfire
10-14-2020, 11:33
IIRC the problem is exacerbated by the fact that this took place in Indonesia. Hard to ship weapons (in any condition) internationally, especially to countries with restrictive firearms laws. Probably why the miscreant had to borrow a weapon in the first place.
Bingo (Altho wrong zip code IIRC)
Also the price of legally acquired Glock in that area is rather cost prohibitive :eek:
Simply unreal compared to how much I paid with mil discount/blue label, and the free one I won in gssf competition :D
You’ll see high ranking officers there sporting gen 2 and 3 Glock for prestige, as ours with custom Wilson Combat and Salient Arms!
Like others have said, if you can get Glock to replace under warranty or a small fee, that would be best.
If not, the plastic glock uses is a thermoplastic, which means it can reform from heat. You can use a soldering iron to "plastic weld" the front of the frame back together. I assume the small parts are unregulated and you can order replacements to fix.
If for whatever reason the entire frame is toast, you may look into 3D printing. FDM AM printers are very cheap from china, as little as $160 (as they are simple devices, only real expense being the circuit board, aluminum T-slot beams, step motors, and transformer. A kilo of plastic filament typically costs $9-15, but due to the global plastic shortage right now, they are closer to $20-30. 1kg can make about 5 glock frames. PLA is a good beginner material. 3D printing is easy, it just requires fine tuning the setup as the act of melting plastic in layers is highly dependent on the lot of plastic and the temperature of your workshop. Build an enclosure for your printer to save a lot of headache.
A 3D printed frame will not be as durable as an injected molded frame like an actual commercially available product, but unless you are slamming your glock on concrete, it will work just fine. There are ways to make a 3D printed product almost indiscernible from an injection molded product as well.