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Alan Dershowitz impeachment testimony.
All, imho, it's a must listen. The impact of Alan Dershowitz lecture is immeasurable, separation of powers. Framers intent=impact on CJ Roberts imho, will be debated for 100's of years!
Roberts is sitting in the most amazing position = CJOTSC, and Alan Dershowitz is reenforcing: The the Separation of Powers and Framers Intent.
It's an amazing constitutional lecture.
Old Dog New Trick
01-27-2020, 21:05
Rachel “Madcow” Maddow would right now have John Bolton’s children if she wasn’t a man dressed in women’s clothing.
Alan Dershowitz Defense Argument Transcript: Trump Impeachment Trial January 27
https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/alan-dershowitz-defense-argument-transcript-trump-impeachment-trial-january-27
Old Dog New Trick
01-28-2020, 10:42
I have tried to watch as much of this as I can. And I can’t understand why we’re even having this. The House Democrats involved should be ashamed of themselves and all of them should be censured until the next election.
I’m disappointed with the same level of partisan divisions in the Senate but I guess that is how we are now as a country divided. Because apparently no one has really been ‘moved’ by the hours long statements (er arguments) made by both sides. The Dems trotted out lies and innuendo and failed to prove their case. The defense team has made a great argument for dismissal but have failed to move the needle much.
What I would really like to see right now like yesterday is the FBI raiding the NSC and perp walking ever person who had a role in reviewing, redacting and declassifying John Bolton’s book. Someone in Washington needs to show what happens to leakers and let everyone else know that you are next...fire up the hot lamps and dust off the lie detector equipment because someone should be made an example of.
As far as the relevances of Bolton’s recollections they like everything everyone of these other “hearsay” witnesses have said do not make an argument for impeachment. As the good “liberal” Professor Dershowitz pointed out last night.
ODNT
imoo, the Senate may just have the courage to vote this process to an end, Especially after Alan Dershowitz presentation destroyed the house mangers argument. But, lets not forget Giuseppe Prezzolini who stated: Representative government is artifice, a political myth, designed to conceal from the masses the dominance of a self-selected, self-perpetuating, and self-serving traditional ruling class.”
The problem is that the R’s can’t stay together. The closet Democrat Trump haters will likely end up side tracking the process (Romney, Collins, Murkowski, Lamar Alexander). They don’t have the backbone to see this partisan hit job for what it is and stick with their party to end it quickly. If they do, I’ll be very surprised.
Ret10Echo
01-28-2020, 11:47
I have tried to watch as much of this as I can. And I can’t understand why we’re even having this.
To UNDO the 2016 election and make sure the American People do not interfere with the 2020 election
It is PURELY political.
I would like to put on a lie detector any one of the Representatives and Senators to determine if they have done or not done the items being suggested of the President
((John 8:7-8))
Hmmmm....
Expelled Representatives
Year Representative Party State Details
1861 John B. Clark Democratic Missouri Disloyalty to the Union; taking up arms against the United States.
1861 John W. Reid Democratic Missouri Disloyalty to the Union; taking up arms against the United States.
1861 Henry C. Burnett Democratic Kentucky Disloyalty to the Union; taking up arms against the United States.
1980 Michael J. Myers Democratic Pennsylvania Convicted of bribery in the Abscam scandal.
2002 James Traficant Democratic Ohio Convicted on ten counts including bribery, conspiracy to defraud the United States, corruption, obstruction of justice, tax evasion, and racketeering.[3]
The unfortunate truth is that turds like Romney, Collins, Murkowski, McCain, Alexander, Flake, etc etc etc are elected to represent people that are generally satisfied with the shit they are slinging.
Q: How do RINO's and SJW democrats get elected ?
A: They are elected by RINO's and SJW democrats
Ret10Echo
01-28-2020, 12:27
The unfortunate truth is that turds like Romney, Collins, Murkowski, Mccain, Alexander, Flkae, etc etc etc are elected to represent people that are generally satisfied with the shit they are slinging.
Q: How do RINO's and SJW democrats get elected ?
A: They are elected by RINO's and SJW democrats
The Idiocracy
Brawndo, it's what plants crave...… it's got electrolytes…..
This is how it ends up, I'm becoming more and more convinced we're doomed as a functioning republic. The absolute best we can hope for at this point is a small-scale (Bloody) revolution followed up by a renaissance period that comes about because of the ART V provision in the USC. Worst case, we are headed for the 2nd coming of the Dark-Ages.
Old Dog New Trick
01-28-2020, 12:58
One thing is for sure...our government will never be the same after this!
The Constitutional scholars on both sides will be left scratching their heads for generations to come wondering how a man - one unsuspecting but bold business man - changed the world in so many different ways.
It really is amazing to watch. And if there is a revolution, let me participate on the right side of history and set the record straight for my son and your children to prosper in a new world.
DOL
Old Dog New Trick
01-29-2020, 17:26
BOOM!
If you just watched Dershowitz just blew up the bias in academia!
Trapper John
01-30-2020, 06:51
All of the hyperbole and partisan rancor aside, I now believe that we are at a critical nexus. The case presented clearly does not arise to a level of an impeachable offense! Moreover, the process conducted by the House is unconstitutional and the Senate should under no uncertain terms call witnesses and validate the unconstitutional process that has been presented. To validate this process by calling witnesses would forever alter the constitutional Republic that we have enjoyed for over 200 years. Doing so would leave us with a parliamentary system and once that egg is broken there's no putting it back together! I have sent letters to my Senate representatives urging them to vote against witnesses and put an end to this unconstitutional sham! I ask my Brothers to do the same.
I made this point to Senator Pat Toomey. I heard a question that he asked of the President's counsel and that question was related to this point, so I know writing our Senators will make a difference. Urge your family and fiends to do the same. It's time to acquit!
DOL
doctom54
01-30-2020, 08:03
Brawndo, it's what plants crave...… it's got electrolytes…..
This is how it ends up, I'm becoming more and more convinced we're doomed as a functioning republic. The absolute best we can hope for at this point is a small-scale (Bloody) revolution followed up by a renaissance period that comes about because of the ART V provision in the USC. Worst case, we are headed for the 2nd coming of the Dark-Ages.
I agree Rep Adam Schiff keeps calling this country a "democracy". He knows we are a republic but keeps using that word over and over.
"You Keep Using That Word, I Do Not Think It Means What You Think It Means"
I agree Rep Adam Schiff keeps calling this country a "democracy". He know we are a republic but keeps using that word over and over.
"You Keep Using That Word, I Do Not Think It Means What You Think It Means"
“Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth”, is a law of propaganda often attributed to the Nazi Joseph Goebbels. Among psychologists something like this known as the "illusion of truth" effect.
bblhead672
01-30-2020, 11:33
I don't understand if Trump is everything the Democrat Socialists and their media arm says he is...why they haven't been disappeared. :D
GratefulCitizen
01-30-2020, 15:39
Trump was never going to be removed because of the two-thirds standard, and it's not helping the dims politically, so why impeach?
Well, it happens to tie up the Senate schedule.
This means less time to confirm appointments to the federal bench.
Ret10Echo
01-30-2020, 21:22
I don't understand if Trump is everything the Democrat Socialists and their media arm says he is...why they haven't been disappeared. :D
Because the Klintons own the patent on that little trick.... It is a tool of the socialist.
I just wish they would end this so the Democrats can get started on their next impeachment articles.
The longer we wait for THIS impeachment - the longer we will have to wait for the next one.
Ret10Echo
01-31-2020, 08:27
I just wish they would end this so the Democrats can get started on their next impeachment articles.
The longer we wait for THIS impeachment - the longer we will have to wait for the next one.
Well if the Senate would just hurry up and find some evidence and create an entirely new case things might get moving again.... The role of the House was just to make accusations right? (Enter Ronan the Accuser)
I just wish they would end this so the Democrats can get started on their next impeachment articles.
The longer we wait for THIS impeachment - the longer we will have to wait for the next one.
We should send every Dem a nice new pacifier, so they have something to keep them quiet after DJT wins... Something they can gnash their teeth on.
We should send every Dem a nice new pacifier, so they have something to keep them quiet after DJT wins... Something they can gnash their teeth on.
They remind me of infants with an attention span of 10 seconds or so. They bounce from self-induced drama to drama while doing nothing for the country except spend our money that we supposedly don't have.
Ret10Echo
01-31-2020, 14:37
Murkowski (R AK) post on her F_%#£ook page
“I worked for a fair, honest, and transparent process, modeled after the Clinton trial, to provide ample time for both sides to present their cases, ask thoughtful questions, and determine whether we need more.
The House chose to send articles of impeachment that are rushed and flawed. I carefully considered the need for additional witnesses and documents, to cure the shortcomings of its process, but ultimately decided that I will vote against considering motions to subpoena.
Given the partisan nature of this impeachment from the very beginning and throughout, I have come to the conclusion that there will be no fair trial in the Senate. I don’t believe the continuation of this process will change anything. It is sad for me to admit that, as an institution, the Congress has failed.
It has also become clear some of my colleagues intend to further politicize this process, and drag the Supreme Court into the fray, while attacking the Chief Justice. I will not stand for nor support that effort. We have already degraded our institution for partisan political benefit, and I will not enable those who wish to pull down another.
We are sadly at a low point of division in this country.”
Florida Patriot
02-01-2020, 00:13
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dem-leaders-signal-they-wont-accept-trump-acquittal-as-legitimate
So the saga will continue on & on. Give us some more im peach mints.
Who do they think they are? How can they think that they have ANY authority here to decide that? So the senate votes to acquit, and the Speaker of the House says "Sorry Senate, I don't like how you did it, so it doesn't count." WTF?
They didn't want to accept the results of the last election either but....
#stillmypresident
:boohoo:boohoo:boohoo
Romney is naive.
He would have been eaten alive by our geopolitical adversaries had he become president.
As someone alluded to earlier in another thread - for better or worse at the moment - it is a binary system.
Essentially, the other side seeks subjugation of individual freedoms to the creeping power of the State and all that entails.
The leftists are masters of Sophistry and Romney has succumbed.