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He may as well have been a Confederate. Since this is happening in Kalifornia it should not take long to rename that airport. This BS has no end in sight.
John Wayne Airport should be renamed, some say, after screen legend’s 1971 Playboy interview sparks controversy
https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/john-waynes-1971-controversial-playboy-interview-prompts-debate-to-rebrand-california-airport-named-in-his-honor?fbclid=IwAR3JWu2NROqNHVdrlKrNJBBIPyTLvhJsXLS 0MoiWcWLOoWgu1o76urZ9B0k
Meanwhile Byrd gets a pass on everything he did related to the KKK.
He may as well have been a Confederate. Since this is happening in Kalifornia it should not take long to rename that airport. This BS has no end in sight.
John Wayne Airport should be renamed, some say, after screen legend’s 1971 Playboy interview sparks controversy
https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/john-waynes-1971-controversial-playboy-interview-prompts-debate-to-rebrand-california-airport-named-in-his-honor?fbclid=IwAR3JWu2NROqNHVdrlKrNJBBIPyTLvhJsXLS 0MoiWcWLOoWgu1o76urZ9B0k
Damn all of them to Hell that are trying to re-name The Airport. They should all be air dropped in a cozy package in to Syria! See how they like them apples....:munchin
Holly
The Reaper
02-24-2019, 19:25
Beautiful airport with a great statue of the Duke, but Orange County is no longer run by conservatives.
TR
That Playboy interview is going to bite him in the ass when he runs for office.
...now that this top secret interview has been uncovered, it will probably keep him from ever getting another lead role - his Hollywood days are OVER
I hope the SJW fruitcakes that push this kind of shit choke on a clump of kale when they have their next baby shit colored hippy smoothy.
Meanwhile, I am going to out and buy a new Winchester Model 92 Saddle Ring Carbine with the Larger Loop Lever.
mojaveman
02-25-2019, 11:28
Beautiful airport with a great statue of the Duke, but Orange County is no longer run by conservatives.
Sad because Orange County is one of the last conservative holdouts in Kalifornia. They'll probably try and rename it after Cesar Chavez.
Badger52
02-25-2019, 16:00
Sad because Orange County is one of the last conservative holdouts in Kalifornia. They'll probably try and rename it after Cesar Chavez.Per the last election results, it was. Nothing like the "Inland Empire" part of SoCal of my youth. The ballot-box stuffers probably just drifted south & came ashore in the night.
:munchin
bblhead672
02-26-2019, 11:41
They probably wouldn't want to hear what John Wayne had to say today either.
Divemaster
04-01-2019, 05:20
Don't tell them about John Wayne Marina in Sequim, Washington.
Badger52
04-01-2019, 06:44
John Wayne, Confederate statues, banning a Stars & Bars band logo from kids' clothing, explosive demolition of ancient buddhas... all part of what you do to conquer from within; erase one history for the rewriting of another.
As Good Witch Glinda said:
I watched a marathon of John Wayne movies on Sunday.
The way he objectified women in North to Alaska was disappointing. His reckless firearms use and willingness to promote violent themes by singing about "streets soon running with blood" in Riders of Destiny fired the opening salvo in a string of movies that featured Mr Wayne performing as a gruff misogynistic huckster. His openly racist treatment of 'Pompey' in The man Who Shot Liberty Valance made me sick to my stomach. Last of all, the way that John Wayne unfairly portrayed comancheros in his movie The Comanchero's was just another example of those on the bigoted right trying to demonize groups that are just trying to live their lives. By portraying the Commancheros as nothing but a large criminal gang that smuggles guns and whiskey just to make money and keep the frontier in a state of violence is unsatisfactory. Its just like the POTUS suggesting that undocumented persons are just illegal aliens from MS-13 involved in human trafficking, drug running, and gun smuggling for profit.
CBS clearly addressed this over the weekend with their special on the heroic nature of human coyotes helping migrants survive Central America's grueling Darien Gap jungle. The Commacheros were peaceful traders, helping the oppressed Comanche Indians feed their children and fight back against the oppressive land grabbing pale-faced Europeans that had came to America to force native Americans onto reservations.
...don't even get me started on that war movie John Wayne made about the CIA backed secret Army unit in Vietnam that ran around kidnapping innocent Vietnamese soldiers - and that lying thieving 'Peter-San' guy
I am boycotting all future movies starring John Wayne.
Old Dog New Trick
04-01-2019, 09:17
In today’s world he would have had his boy ripped from his arms by CPS for taking him to a movie set filled with racist privileged white males dressing up as Native-Americans (also once referred to a “Indians”) complete with artificially reddened skin tones and forced to act as savages hell bent on killing women and children.
Badger52
04-01-2019, 09:30
...don't even get me started on that war movie John Wayne made about the CIA backed secret Army unit in Vietnam that ran around kidnapping innocent Vietnamese soldiers - and that lying thieving 'Peter-San' guy
Ha-ha. You funny. Ha.
Be fair now, that kidnapped guy was busy "objectifying" a poor innocent girl.
Ha-ha. You funny. Ha.
Be fair now, that kidnapped guy was busy "objectifying" a poor innocent girl.
Yes but they were both socialists so his behavior doesnt matter...
Socialism isnt about economics - the "ism" is about your social behavior - Social-ism
geez - some of you jokers just dont get it
TOMAHAWK9521
04-01-2019, 10:25
Wait! You completely overlooked Wayne's worst, over-the-top misogynistic movie "The Quiet Man" with all those unwanted advances on a defenseless and strongly independent young lady. The barbarism depicted in that film is nauseating. The young lady, after being forced (sold/traded by her brother like chattel) against her will into a relationship with Mr. Wayne's character, is chastised by one of the white male patriarchs of the village (also the town drunk) that she has no right to strike the man until they are married because then he will have the right to hit her back. Good God! And the worst is the part near the end where one of the locals offers Mr. Wayne a stick "to beat the nice young lady" after retrieving the oppressed bride during her attempt to flee and escape his evil clutches!
Oh, the humanity!
Badger52
04-01-2019, 10:39
Oh, the humanity!Thanks for that; and Box' clarification above. It's clear I need a refresher. I will cue up Donovan's Reef, followed immediately by McClintock! to insure I have a full grasp of this serial miscreant.
rsdengler
04-01-2019, 11:15
Thanks for that; and Box' clarification above. It's clear I need a refresher. I will cue up Donovan's Reef, followed immediately by McClintock! to insure I have a full grasp of this serial miscreant.
Ha, I was just going to add the movie McLintock! when John Wayne's character chased Maureen O'Hara around the streets of the town dressed in her corset/slip and then in only her white panty bloomers. That's just total exploitation of women, and mind you he even turned her over his knee and spanked her derriere with a coal scuttle shovel .....that's abuse, plain and simple. We should have been parading in the streets with our Vagina Hats on. It's sexist, For Shame Mr. Wayne.....LOL.....:D
Old Dog New Trick
04-01-2019, 11:20
John Wayne is tame and mild mannered compared to any early (before Timothy Dalton) James Bond character.
...just for good measure, sit down and watch The Conqueror and you can can cultural appropriation to the list of modern day social missteps.
As punishment for my years of fan support to the late-great John Wayne, I will be donating $1,259.99 to one of my favorite charities (Winchester Repeating Arms) to secure a Model 1892 Large Loop Carbine. By sacrificing my hard earned dollars for such a frivolous purchase, I will be preventing an unsuspecting victim of the gun crazy consumer based Americana economy from being "saddled" with a replica firearm that might otherwise invoke the memory of John Wayne.
My intent is to disrespect this firearm by slowly destroying it over a long period of time by repeatedly firing thousands of rounds of lead bullets through it. To add insult to injury, I will take time out of my weekends to travel to the outskirts of town where I will be far away from the rank and file. My coup de gras of disrespect for this disgusting symbol of Americas socially unacceptable cowboy history will be periodically using dirty rags to smear random types of oil and grease across the entire surface of this evil remnant of toxic masculinity.
Badger52
04-01-2019, 12:00
As punishment for my years of fan support to the late-great John Wayne, I will be donating $1,259.99 to one of my favorite charities (Winchester Repeating Arms) to secure a Model 1892 Large Loop Carbine. By sacrificing my hard earned dollars for such a frivolous purchase, I will be preventing an unsuspecting victim of the gun crazy consumer based Americana economy from being "saddled" with a replica firearm that might otherwise invoke the memory of John Wayne.
My intent is to disrespect this firearm by slowly destroying it over a long period of time by repeatedly firing thousands of rounds of lead bullets through it. To add insult to injury, I will take time out of my weekends to travel to the outskirts of town where I will be far away from the rank and file. My coup de gras of disrespect for this disgusting symbol of Americas socially unacceptable cowboy history will be periodically using dirty rags to smear random types of oil and grease across the entire surface of this evil remnant of toxic masculinity.
The Virtue is Strong in This One.
:lifter
(don't forget the extra cans of Trail Boss)
tom kelly
04-01-2019, 14:29
John Wayne was an actor who portrayed characters written by screenwriters that were made into movies and produced by Hollyweird Executives to 1. Make Money and 2. Advance their social-political view to the target audience.
Old Dog New Trick
04-01-2019, 16:42
John Wayne was an actor who portrayed characters written by screenwriters that were made into movies and produced by Hollyweird Executives to 1. Make Money and 2. Advance their social-political view to the target audience.
John Wayne was the Dude playing the Dude that every dude between 7 and 27 wanted to be when they grew up even though he was the Dude who never actually served his country in the military and went on to become a war hero in the eyes of the world.
John Wayne was the Dude playing the Dude that every dude between 7 and 27 wanted to be when they grew up even though he was the Dude who never actually served his country in the military and went on to become a war hero in the eyes of the world.
Well, he was 34 on 7 Dec '41 and had a family deferment. He wrote several times to John Ford to join his unit but was denied. Ford was a Commander in the U.S. Navy Reserve in the OSS (the Office of Strategic Services photographic unit - the film unit that made documentaries for the Navy. He was on Midway during the Battle of Midway and filmed it as it happened and won an Academy Award for it.) Duke tried and failed. The war films were his way of bringing stories of the war to the people.
Old Dog New Trick
04-01-2019, 18:39
I’m not knocking the Duke. I don’t feel shame or disrespect for any human smart or lucky enough to avoid dying for their country in war but, have tremendous respect for those who did serve...even Elvis who I don’t have much respect for otherwise.
Badger52
04-02-2019, 03:44
I believe the thing to keep in mind is what this kind of action represents. People can disagree on whether a cultural icon is an icon - a systematic attempt to obliterate evidence of those icons and deny history, what that period represents & those who were in it is something else.
Golf1echo
04-02-2019, 08:15
Sergeant Major...freeze...slowly take the Asian Cut jeans off and place them carefully on the ground. Proper circulation is important, we have some Carhartt Pants here, for yours and all our sakes. Overwatch...out
Its a gosh darned commie plot to deconstruct America - damned dope smoking tree hugging little boy kissing leftist sympathizers all need to be tarred and feathered.
Old Dog New Trick
04-02-2019, 08:56
I believe the thing to keep in mind is what this kind of action represents. People can disagree on whether a cultural icon is an icon - a systematic attempt to obliterate evidence of those icons and deny history, what that period represents & those who were in it is something else.
It’s not something else; it’s everything!
Today’s young adults and those still attending upper levels of the liberal education establishment referred to as “academia” have either not been taught ‘history’ at all, or have been taught an alternative history that fits a narrative not based on context given to the time period or facts.
It’s a damned shame too, because so many of these people will repeat the mistakes that history was supposed to teach them.
The acute far-left shift in the Democratic Party, the recent rise in feminism and the return of fascism seen in groups like Antifa and BLM are all relevant to the movement began in the late ‘60s. These are the professors right now poisoning the minds of our youth. These young people will be a wasted generation that will cause great harm and destruction to American society. If we let them succeed then the adults still standing in the room failed. Every time one of these ‘adults’ allowing this generation “X”/Millennial” to tear down a statue, rename a building or destroy an institution they are destroying the very fabric of what America is. Which until recently was still a beacon of freedom in the world. An idea rightfully or wrongfully created by Hollywood movies portraying strength, honor, integrity and unity.
Just as these anti-American misfits (a minority group of privileged white people born to the ‘greatest generation’ and came of age smoking pot and doing drugs in the late ‘60s blossomed) they have infiltrated our government, our military and academia to promote their hate of the American experience that people like John Wayne, John Ford, James Stewart, Cary Grant, Audie Murphy, Clint Eastwood, Charlton Heston, and so many other strong confident male role models were such a big part of making. Today they are all “toxic-males” and should torn down and discarded like old newspapers. Sad really!
Trapper John
04-02-2019, 12:27
It’s not something else; it’s everything!
Today’s young adults and those still attending upper levels of the liberal education establishment referred to as “academia” have either not been taught ‘history’ at all, or have been taught an alternative history that fits a narrative not based on context given to the time period or facts.
It’s a damned shame too, because so many of these people will repeat the mistakes that history was supposed to teach them.
The acute far-left shift in the Democratic Party, the recent rise in feminism and the return of fascism seen in groups like Antifa and BLM are all relevant to the movement began in the late ‘60s. These are the professors right now poisoning the minds of our youth. These young people will be a wasted generation that will cause great harm and destruction to American society. If we let them succeed then the adults still standing in the room failed. Every time one of these ‘adults’ allowing this generation “X”/Millennial” to tear down a statue, rename a building or destroy an institution they are destroying the very fabric of what America is. Which until recently was still a beacon of freedom in the world. An idea rightfully or wrongfully created by Hollywood movies portraying strength, honor, integrity and unity.
Just as these anti-American misfits (a minority group of privileged white people born to the ‘greatest generation’ and came of age smoking pot and doing drugs in the late ‘60s blossomed) they have infiltrated our government, our military and academia to promote their hate of the American experience that people like John Wayne, John Ford, James Stewart, Cary Grant, Audie Murphy, Clint Eastwood, Charlton Heston, and so many other strong confident male role models were such a big part of making. Today they are all “toxic-males” and should torn down and discarded like old newspapers. Sad really!
Well, on the other hand - there is an upside. If all you said being the case, a target rich environment is being created. If the cultural divide ever gets kinetic we won't have to expend the energy tracking the enemy- IIRC that can be downright exhausting ;) The situation could evolve to the point that us VFOG's need only sit on the front porch locked and loaded. :p
Badger52
04-02-2019, 20:01
It’s not something else; it’s everything!
We're actually in agreement. I'll use fewer words:
Disagreement RE who's the greatest movie hero is a discussion.
Attempts to obliterate a culture's history is evil. Shoot them.
Dear Lord - I am so confused.
...and outraged.
I am so outraged. It's just outrageous how outraged I am at this outrage.
John Wayne was the greatest. He was so great that he once shot a guy dead - hiding in the shadows so no one would see him- just so that Jimmy Stewart could get into politics. He adopted an orphaned Vietnamese kid for god sake - not because he likes Vietnamese people, but because it was the right thing to do !!!
Think about that shit - John Wayne is so awesome that just from John Wayne shooting a guy - Jimmy Stewart got so popular that he became a senator !!!
Or maybe those were movies plots - I cant remember.
Either way - John Wayne made movies that were culturally, historically, and aesthetically significant - films that showcase the range and diversity of American film heritage - films that give red blooded Americans a raging freedom boner that could kill an angry, charging cape buffalo...
...and people are upset about a Playboy interview?
Jimmy Carter gave a fucked up Playboy interview and they made him president - and he was just a halfassed peanut farmer and a shitty governor - Bill Clinton sodomized a government clerk - and they made him president only to impeach him and make him president again. The entire leadership of Virginia has compromised morals and they didnt even have to say "sorry" - but people want to talk down on The Duke over some shit he said over 40 years ago. That is some BULL.SHIT.
John Wayne shot a guy, just so Jimmy Stewart could break into politics. That has got to be worth something.
Cheese and Rice - there is no discussion - John Wayne should get an Oscar for best Cowboy ever. We should name a fucking airport after the man !!
Old Dog New Trick
04-03-2019, 08:02
^^^eggzactly^^^
He adopted all those misfit orphaned cowboy kids too and died for them and that black fellow! Oh the humanity!
Actually IIRC he was quite the humanitarian in real life. Donating money and his time to help the disadvantaged.
The Reaper
04-03-2019, 10:56
The Duke (his charity) contributed a significant portion of the funds to build "Bronze Bruce", the commemorative SF Statue, and John Wayne made the movie "The Green Berets" when it was very politically unpopular to do so.
Ross Perot has paid for several more SF statues, including Bull Simons, LTG Yarborough and Dick Meadows.
I think we are seeing revisionist history when we try to judge others based on our current politically correct lens.
That is how it was. In some respects, it has gotten better. In others, not so much.
IMHO, these men were real Americans, back when that meant something.
TR
TOMAHAWK9521
04-03-2019, 11:04
I believe I uncovered the root of the left's deep hatred of the Duke. Not only did he steal the rightful property of the communist state (a steam ship), but that pirate transported a ship full of freedom-loving Chinese refugees out of early communist China. That black-hearted capitalist also outmaneuvered the whole Chicom navy, making them look like buffoons. An even greater crime committed during that voyage was him tossing the former village commissar off the boat who ended up being exterminated by his own beloved Chicom comrades. And lastly, he succeeded in his task of getting all those oppressed Chinese people to that insolent and decadent island nation of Taiwan, away from the bosom of the benevolent PRC.
Curses! A pox upon him!
John Wayne loved his country and he made no bones about it, he wore the label American proudly. Being an American is nothing to be ashamed of or run away from. I look at the lefts dear leaders and ponder how they became to be so twisted and askew in their beliefs. Do they actually believe the crap they spread or is it just because they cater to their base for votes?
bblhead672
04-03-2019, 18:58
John Wayne loved his country and he made no bones about it, he wore the label American proudly. Being an American is nothing to be ashamed of or run away from. I look at the lefts dear leaders and ponder how they became to be so twisted and askew in their beliefs. Do they actually believe the crap they spread or is it just because they cater to their base for votes?
It's a tossup which is the more mentally ill...the politicians or the people voting for them.
The Duke (his charity) contributed a significant portion of the funds to build "Bronze Bruce", the commemorative SF Statue, and John Wayne made the movie "The Green Berets" when it was very politically unpopular to do so.
Ross Perot has paid for several more SF statues, including Bull Simons, LTG Yarborough and Dick Meadows.
I think we are seeing revisionist history when we try to judge others based on our current politically correct lens.
That is how it was. In some respects, it has gotten better. In others, not so much.
IMHO, these men were real Americans, back when that meant something.
TR
Spot on, as usual. I began reading this thread a couple of nights ago, and as luck would have it, I was channel-surfing and happened upon "The Shootist" just as it was starting. I remembered that I read something not long ago about another interview The Duke gave regarding where he got the inspiration to play cowboys so well. He recounted how when he lost his football scholarship due to injury at USC, he went to work at a movie studio as a contract actor/stuntman. That afforded him the opportunity to spend a lot of time with another gentleman the studio hired to act as a technical advisor on the westerns the studio was producing. The Duke stated he copied everything from his manner of speaking and the way this gentleman walked until he had it down cold. When asked who this gentleman was, The Duke responded, "Wyatt Earp".