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Ret10Echo
01-13-2019, 18:55
I assumed someone had already posted here but I didn't find it in the search...
I thought I felt the earth shudder every so slightly:
Army secretary: PT belts aren’t needed in daylight. ... Soldiers can stash their reflective belts during workouts from dawn to dusk, the Army said in a memorandum issued earlier this month.
Stripes (https://www.stripes.com/news/army/army-secretary-pt-belts-aren-t-needed-in-daylight-1.564178)
That is the very reason the poles are shifting! :D
WarriorDiplomat
01-13-2019, 23:07
You knew that stupid idea had to be gotten rid of sooner or later and by no less than a former Infantry Officer now Sec of the Army.....he probably hated the power belt as much as any
TrapperFrank
01-14-2019, 12:07
This will be the death of a thousand CSMs. Whatever will they do now?
Astronomy
01-14-2019, 12:44
Initiate fly-away conferences, staff studies, unit briefing/sensing tours, VTCs, and PPT presentations to define the actual parameters of "dusk" & "dawn".
Then require all troops to carry a laminated card with a printed PT Belt Risk Assessment Matrix on one side... and an Annual Solar/Lunar Light Data Table on the other. And a ChemLight for In-Extremis contingency use.
Army secretary: PT belts aren’t needed in daylight. ... Soldiers can stash their reflective belts during workouts from dawn to dusk, the Army said in a memorandum issued earlier this month.
It took them how many decades to figure that out?:rolleyes:
An entire legion of one track mind senior NCOs is collectively shivering like a hound dog shitting peach seeds!!!
Don't kid yourselves and think this is a done deal though - the laws of Physics apply to PT belts just like they apply to everything else - for every action, there is an equal and opposite REACTION
Reflective belts not needed after sunup? What would physical science teach us about such an action?
Equal and opposite REACTION............
...Unit PT will now start 45 minutes BEFORE dawn.
Besides- you aren't supposed to sleep past dawn anyway - that's when the French and Indians attack.
Now - back on your heads
Pardon my being somewhat of a FOG regarding PT belts, had we been losing a lot of troops due to their being hit by vehicles while doing PT?
Ret10Echo
01-14-2019, 14:48
Pardon my being somewhat of a FOG regarding PT belts, had we been losing a lot of troops due to their being hit by vehicles while doing PT?
Risk Assessment indicated High, High... Something HAD to be done. :D
tom kelly
01-14-2019, 15:07
Pardon my being somewhat of a FOG regarding PT belts, had we been losing a lot of troops due to their being hit by vehicles while doing PT?
Windshield wipers must be on if your headlights are on. or is it the Sect. of Defense to take up this decision for all Military Bases that conduct PT???? Justifying your position to make BS important.
cat in the hat
01-14-2019, 18:08
This will be the death of a thousand CSMs. Whatever will they do now?
If he issues a statement that allows soldiers to have their hands in their pockets, CSM's everywhere will implode.
doctom54
01-14-2019, 18:23
If he issues a statement that allows soldiers to have their hands in their pockets, CSM's everywhere will implode.
Well the USAF has always considered pockets just gloves of a different variety.
WarriorDiplomat
01-14-2019, 22:00
Maybe we should come up with a list of the stupid stuff the Army has come up with and send it to the Army SEC
cat in the hat
01-15-2019, 13:55
Maybe we should come up with a list of the stupid stuff the Army has come up with and send it to the Army SEC
Better be a digital copy. Or get ready to buy a truckload of printer ink
Leozinho
01-15-2019, 20:18
Pardon my being somewhat of a FOG regarding PT belts, had we been losing a lot of troops due to their being hit by vehicles while doing PT?
No. Which proves the PT belts were working!!!
No. Which proves the PT belts were working!!!
Being a FOG means that he pre-dates PT belts, as do I. In my day, PT was done in fatigues and combat boots as were PT tests. As far as I know there were no troops hit by vehicles then either. Well, maybe some Armor guys got squashed but I was Infantry and wouldn't know. :D
Ret10Echo
01-15-2019, 21:56
Maybe we should come up with a list of the stupid stuff the Army has come up with and send it to the Army SEC
"Back in the Day".... of Army Gray PT's I showed up one morning with a grey, crewneck Army sweatshirt on. First Sergeant prepared to come unglued and my response was "It doesn't have a hood I can't put on my head nor does it have a zipper that I am not allowed to unzip with the exception of removing the sweatshirt".
There was long pause....
"Get the &*%#$@ back into formation"
:D
Task: Identify SF soldiers who are out of uniform
Conditions: Given a 1 square kilometer, of lightly wooded terrain
5 SF soldiers
1 UH-60 Blackhawk helicopter
1 set of binoculars
Standards: At 1500 ft AGL identify at least 3 out of the 5 SF soldiers in 10 minutes while describing their uniform discrepancy's
Task: Identify SF soldiers who are out of uniform
Conditions: Given a 1 square kilometer, of lightly wooded terrain
5 SF soldiers
1 UH-60 Blackhawk helicopter
1 set of binoculars
Standards: At 1500 ft AGL identify at least 3 out of the 5 SF soldiers in 10 minutes while describing their uniform discrepancy's
Seriously....
This seems pretty disrespectful.
Is this really what you think of an E9 and his ability to uphold standards?
Let me tell you something, bino's are for rookies - any E9 worth his salt can go 36 hours straight without so much as touching a set of bino's and not miss a single uniform infraction.
I could tell you what kind of boot laces they have in their unauthorized hiking shoes if I had a set of binos...
...and if I need to bitch at 5 different SF dudes - I certainly don't need 10 minutes to only find 3 of them.
I think you are just trolling me me -since you still haven't even filled out your profile.
I suggest you take a lap, get a haircut, fill out your profile, and then do 20 pushups for the Green Beret in the sky.
3 out of 5 in 10 minutes..... PFFT