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JJ_BPK
12-19-2018, 15:49
A little bit of history for the kids and some memories for the FOG's :D

Some of the pictures are reenactors, but most are original.



MACV SOG: Công thần lẫn tội đồ của Mỹ trong chiến tranh Việt Nam
translate: Public spirit and American criminals in Viet Nam War


http://thoimoi.vn/macv-sog-cong-than-lan-toi-do-cua-my-trong-chien-tranh-viet-nam-76965.html?fbclid=IwAR3_J3kLIw9CVDOJRzOCysNYcreh4F 2rA6Ozl6rXuqga9pvGtQPeDOh8tOA

JJ_BPK
12-20-2018, 07:28
A friend captured the google translate.
I suspect they "edited" the content :]


Playing a special role in the Vietnam War, MACV SOG was never recognized by the US Army because of the special mission of the force.
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Playing a special role in the Vietnam War, MACV SOG was never recognized by the US Army because of the special mission of the force.
macv sog curry is made by us in the painting competition

First Pic Here:

The long-awaited name is the Millitary Assistance Command, a Vietnam-Studies and Observation Group, which oversees the support of the US Military Command in Vietnam, or MACVSOG. Turns out, the SOG. Pinterest.
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Second Here:

In essence, the name "The Study Team, Observing the Support of the US Military Command in Vietnam" is just the name of a beautiful cover of this force. The main mission of the SOG is spying, sabotage and pointing. Photo Source: News.
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Established on January 24, 1964, the original mission of the SOG was to train spies in the region to launch the mountainous region of northern Vietnam with the task of reconnaissance, exploration, and sabotage. the transportation network and, if possible, the establishment of a network of messengers, and the building of a force of local people living in the mountains of northern Vietnam to carry out anti-revolutionary activities. Photo Source: Pinterest.
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As the United States Congress and the United States government declared absolute compliance with the Geneva Accords, military operations using US ground troops in northern Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia were not allowed. However, the SOG forces were completely unconcerned by these restrictions, they received orders directly from the Pentagon and conducted espionage activities everywhere, without any obligation or responsibility. do you Picture source: Unclai.
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Even so, there were gold-spiked American SOGs who dared not parachute into the mountains of northern Vietnam, the task was extremely risky by the SOG training soldiers. There are even some who have been able to enter Hanoi before being summoned. Photo Source: Pinterest.
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For the SOG, their primary tasks include psychological warfare, reconnaissance and spotting. War psychological missions include monorail propaganda in the Truong Son Forest, penetration in the Lower Laos and Cambodia to find our important transportation routes to indicate the bombers. Spread the carpet. Photo Source: Jim Bolen.
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Normally, the American SOG team would consist of three Americans and four to five indigenous peoples. These indigenous peoples are usually Montagnards (nouns living in the Central Highlands) or ethnic minority people living in Laos and Cambodia. The mission of this indigenous force is to lead the way, communicate with the natives, mix, find information ... Source: SOG.
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Because of their special characteristics of regular landings, the SOG was often very lightly armed, including the weapons of World War II, such as the M3 submachine gun with silencer . In particular, due to the special forces, SOG weapons are not necessarily regular weapons, they can use AK-47s as much as they like and the fact that many SOG soldiers prefer to use them. The AK-47 is more caliber than the US guns because of its compactness and accuracy. Photo Source: SOG.
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In addition, due to the nature of the mission is to spy on, the information in the enemy's heart so SOG is very good ... wrangling than knocking good fight. They knew that if they encountered a group of liberated troops, the loser would be firmly in their hands, thus minimizing the shooting. Photo Source: SOG.
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The activities of the SOG in 1967 began to become more desperate, many of the commandos were deployed in Central Laos, where the US led the way ... Hanoi was faster than running into Saigon. . In particular, since 1971, when the United States withdrew American infantry from Vietnam, the activities of the SOG not only decreased but also increased ... to compensate for the ineffectiveness of military operations. This is done by the puppet army. Photo: A SOG camp located in the outskirts of Saigon during the Vietnam War. Photo Source: SOG.
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In spite of the increased frequency of operations, the US SOG in Vietnam in the 1970s and 1971s received absolute support in terms of air defense, which could be said to be "just as good". Therefore, the anti-breaking activities on the Ho Chi Minh Trail of the SOG took place more and more effective. Photo Source: SOG.
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However, after the Lam Son 719 campaign, known as the 9th Street - South Laos of Saigon, failed miserably, the Liberation Army controlled a large area in southern Laos and northern Cambodia. In addition to the US withdrawal from the Vietnam War, the SOG was shut down and officially dissolved on April 30, 1972. Photo Source: SOG.
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There is no denying the effectiveness of the SOG during the Vietnam War. However, the bold and sophisticated plans of this force, such as the spy thrust into Hanoi, the spat in northern mountainous provinces, the establishment of a network of local spies in the northern mountains. completely fail. In return, only tactical activities such as the anti-Ho Chi Minh trail, harassment of the North-South freight route were clear but not enough to change the course of this war. Photo: Ho Chi Minh Trail is SOG shooting back in a reconnaissance. Picture Source: Wiki.

Badger52
12-20-2018, 08:17
Thanks! That was interesting (well, the translation was a hoot anyway). Had not seen that particular photo of John S. Meyer's team before but recognize him, Lynne Black, and some of the indig from other photos in works on the book shelf. That B&W trail pic is somethin' else... the notion of walking down something like that makes me shudder.

PSM
12-20-2018, 10:28
Funny that the MACV SOG curry recipe hasn't been posted in the Gourmet Guerrilla forum yet. :D

Penn
12-20-2018, 22:42
Translation

The activities of the SOG in 1967 began to become more desperate, many of the commandos were deployed in Central Laos, where the US led the way ... Hanoi was faster than running into Saigon. . In particular, since 1971, when the United States withdrew American infantry from Vietnam, the activities of the SOG not only decreased but also increased ... to compensate for the ineffectiveness of military operations. This is done by the puppet army. Photo: A SOG camp located in the outskirts of Saigon during the Vietnam War. Photo Source: SOG.