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Ok we are a almost at the midterm.
It is important that all Americans irregard of party to get off your duff and vote. We need to not be complacent and make sure we keep the House and Senate so we can continue to deconstructing all the stupidity that has been enacted for years and keep our great country going in the right direction.
Who has already voted? I have...
Who is helping get out the vote? I am assisting this week with taking people that are shut in to vote.
Is anyone motivating their friends to get up and go out and vote. Already have...
Do not wait until Election Day and vote now!!!
A bunch of us in the office escaped yesterday and voted so nothing at the last minute can interfear with casting our vote.
What say you?
Old Dog New Trick
10-24-2018, 18:53
Done x2 (ETA: I feel the need to clarify. My wife and I both cast our one vote.)
Done it today, in and out in 15 minutes.
It was an hour wait, but I got ‘er done, today. Huge turnout.
My son and I early voted. In and out in about 15 min.
Completed on the 23rd. The polling station was busy, but I was in and out in 10 minutes.
How many times can we vote?
Keep in mind - I vote towards the right - that may impact how many times I can cast a ballot.
How many times can we vote?
Keep in mind - I vote towards the right - that may impact how many times I can cast a ballot.
50 times box but that is a lot of traveling:D
bblhead672
10-25-2018, 10:51
How many times can we vote?
Keep in mind - I vote towards the right - that may impact how many times I can cast a ballot.
Use this simple voting calculator provided by the Dat Normally Communist party (DNC):
1. Are you:
Republican?
If yes, one vote, stop here, do not add additional votes
Democrat:
If yes, one vote, continue adding votes
2. Are you:
Living?
If yes, add one vote, continue adding votes
Deceased?
If yes, add one vote, continue adding votes
3. Are you:
US Citizen?
If yes, add one vote, continue adding votes
Non-citizen legally in US?
If yes, add one vote, continue adding votes
Illegal invader from another country?
If yes, add two votes, continue to end
4. If Democrat tally all votes. If Republican, you're a racist, homophobe, misogynist hater who should not even be allowed one vote.
Thank you for voting, remember vote early vote often!
Your DNC Voter Drive Chairmember
Old Dog New Trick
10-25-2018, 11:58
Use this simple voting calculator provided by the Dat Normally Communist party (DNC):
1. Are you:
Republican?
If yes, one vote, stop here, do not add additional votes
Democrat:
If yes, one vote, continue adding votes
2. Are you:
Living?
If yes, add one vote, continue adding votes
Deceased?
If yes, add one vote, continue adding votes
3. Are you:
US Citizen?
If yes, add one vote, continue adding votes
Non-citizen legally in US?
If yes, add one vote, continue adding votes
Illegal invader from another country?
If yes, add two votes, continue to end
4. If Democrat tally all votes. If Republican, you're a racist, homophobe, misogynist hater who should not even be allowed one vote.
Thank you for voting, remember vote early vote often!
Your DNC Voter Drive Chairmember
3 continued:
Don’t have a valid state or government issued ID vote as many times as you like. (Note: Busses depart daily from the underpass at 1st and Main Streets at 5:00 AM sharp, food boxes are provided. You can sign up for the single day trips or ride the “Blue Wave” from coast to coast voting in multiple cities and states that don’t have voter ID laws.)
rsdengler
10-25-2018, 12:11
Did You: Just came over the Mexican Border
*There is a voting booth straight ahead
*Remember only vote for the party that begins with a "D"
Thanks for your Vote...Democratic Party....
I just think my vote should count the same as a democrats 7 votes.......
I just think my vote should count the same as a democrats 7 votes.......
At least 7 times..... Here in NM they are hauling old folks out multiple times. Feel free to balance it out:D
No early voting in PA. I figure to pack a few snacks in case the turn out is huge.
Badger52
10-26-2018, 04:23
No early voting in PA. I figure to pack a few snacks in case the turn out is huge.Same here. It used to take 5 minutes; now it takes about 10 if there's any kind of line. Ya know, trust but verify; because that pesky Voter ID thing was eventually upheld.
:D
bblhead672
10-26-2018, 08:23
Cast my one "R" vote yesterday. 20 minutes from getting into line to walking out.
Ret10Echo
10-29-2018, 11:49
Early Voting completed...
29 minutes from line-up to exit. Four step process, line-up for entry, ballot issue, ballot completion, ballot scanning. Approximately 87 people in the queue when I arrived.
I say "line up for entry" on purpose since this state does not require ID to vote, just answer a couple easy questions.
R10
I say "line up for entry" on purpose since this state does not require ID to vote, just answer a couple easy questions.
R10
That’s insane. Where do you live? California?
Team Sergeant
10-29-2018, 12:14
Arizona has early voting, took 2 minutes........ :munchin
Ret10Echo
10-29-2018, 13:17
That’s insane. Where do you live? California?
PRM... Peoples Republic of Maryland..
One of the ballot measures was to allow "Same-Day Registration and Voting at the Precinct Polling Place on Election Day" . No risk of voter fraud there right??.....
This is OF COURSE reserved only for those "qualified Individuals"..
Well, who exactly IS a "qualified Individual"? you may ask. Well, let's consult the statute..
To register to vote, you must be:
A U.S. citizen;
A Maryland resident; and
At least 16 years old*.
OK, so then, how does the person verify that I fit one of these criteria?
federal law (not the state) requires that you provide on your voter registration application a Maryland driver’s license number or MVA ID Card number or, if you do not have a Maryland driver’s license or MVA ID Card, the last four digits of your social security number
BUT
alternatively you can simply "affirm, under penalty of perjury, that you do not have a Maryland driver’s license, MVA ID Card, or social security number"...
Because a person committing voter fraud is going to be concerned with the whole perjury charge....
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot
Badger52
10-29-2018, 14:19
PRM... Peoples Republic of Maryland..
...
To register to vote, you must be:
A U.S. citizen;
A Maryland resident; and
At least 16 years old*.
Probably not what Jefferson had in mind when he thought of "well-informed electorate" being sufficient to govern themselves.
Ret10Echo
10-29-2018, 14:24
Probably not what Jefferson had in mind when he thought of "well-informed electorate" being sufficient to govern themselves.
The exact conversation I had with the gentleman ahead of me in line (and anyone else within earshot).
SouthernDZ
10-29-2018, 14:25
Voted today in Texas, took 90 minutes (89 minutes in line, 1 minute to vote straight ticket).
cat in the hat
10-29-2018, 15:45
Mailed my ballot today.
As a responsible citizen it took some time to read and evaluate all the proposals but at least I did it from the comfort of home before an afternoon motorcycle ride
PRM... Peoples Republic of Maryland..
One of the ballot measures was to allow "Same-Day Registration and Voting at the Precinct Polling Place on Election Day" . No risk of voter fraud there right??.....
This is OF COURSE reserved only for those "qualified Individuals"..
Well, who exactly IS a "qualified Individual"? you may ask. Well, let's consult the statute..
To register to vote, you must be:
A U.S. citizen;
A Maryland resident; and
At least 16 years old*.
OK, so then, how does the person verify that I fit one of these criteria?
federal law (not the state) requires that you provide on your voter registration application a Maryland driver’s license number or MVA ID Card number or, if you do not have a Maryland driver’s license or MVA ID Card, the last four digits of your social security number
BUT
alternatively you can simply "affirm, under penalty of perjury, that you do not have a Maryland driver’s license, MVA ID Card, or social security number"...
Because a person committing voter fraud is going to be concerned with the whole perjury charge....
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot
Perjury is just a misdemeanor here!
https://law.justia.com/codes/maryland/2010/criminal-law/title-9/subtitle-1/9-101/
Voted today in Texas, took 90 minutes (89 minutes in line, 1 minute to vote straight ticket).
I'm in Texas, too. It was a long wait, but my straight party vote took the same amount of time as yours did. I think Texans are pretty motivated to vote this year.
Not sure which way you voted, but this is still funny.
I saw a car with TX plates here in NM with a BETO bumper sticker and one on their back window. Someone had put one of those stickers next to his one on the bumper. I do not think he knows it yet. Had to speed up and take a double take. Was laughing my ass off as I passed him.
SouthernDZ
10-30-2018, 08:46
There are 5 "BETO" signs on front lawns on my street; 7 with CRUZ" signs. I don't advertise (or to paraphrase the Godfather, "Never tell anyone outside the family what you are thinking....")
My conservative dog likes to pee on BETO signs.....:D
TrapperFrank
10-30-2018, 09:20
I was not going to vote this year, but my wife shamed me into it. We live in Georgia and our choice for governor was between size 22, ugly as home made sin, radical Socialist Stacey Abrams (D) and no talent ass clown Brian Kemp(R). So I held my nose and voted for him along with every other R on the ticket. And as an added bonus, I voted no on every ballot measure and proposed constitutional amendment on the ballot also.
rsdengler
10-30-2018, 11:17
I always steal the political signs near the Stop Signs, they are great for target practice......:p
It's bad enough that I see old 2016 Bernie and Clinton stickers plastered on the back of Prius's and Bikenstock Sandal wearing Subaru's all the time.
I'm just waiting until next week to vote; maybe I can steal some more signs while I am up there....HA
Badger52
10-30-2018, 14:49
My conservative dog likes to pee on BETO signs.....:DWoof! Good dog. :D
mojaveman
10-30-2018, 17:43
I work a pretty busy schedule and usually don't have time to make it to the polling stations in Kalifornia that are usually staffed with twenty-something year old idiots. No joke.
Voted by mail. ;)
Badger52
11-09-2018, 16:13
This didn't deserve to get put in the Comedy Zone. It seems appropriate for the races that see ever dwindling (end of election day) leads for the Republicans. Ever wonder how those votes "trickle in"? Answer: They don't trickle in.
tom kelly
11-09-2018, 17:23
This didn't deserve to get put in the Comedy Zone. It seems appropriate for the races that see ever dwindling (end of election day) leads for the Republicans. Ever wonder how those votes "trickle in"? Answer: They don't trickle in.
IF THE U S A IS NOT INVOLVED IN SOME KIND OF INSURRECTION IN THE NEXT 5 YEARS....I WILL BE AMAZED. THERE IS NO HOPE FOR UNITY WITH THE DIVERSE POLITICAL VIEWS AND BELIEFS IN THIS COUNTRY...THE MILITARY MAY NOT BE ON YOUR SIDE...THE COURTS MAY NOT BE ON YOUR SIDE... THE POLITICIANS WON'T BE ON YOUR SIDE... THE POLICE MAY NOT BE ON YOUR SIDE... THE POLARIZATION OF GOVERNMENT IS TO DEEPLY DIVIDED FOR A COMPRISE TO ALLOW THIS COUNTRY TO BE GOVERNED ACCORDING TO THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. SOCIALISM, FASCISM, OR COMMUNISM WILL NOT PREVAIL; THOSE SYSTEMS OF RULE ARE TOTALITARIAN AND OPPOSED TO FREEDOM.
Badger52
11-09-2018, 21:28
IF THE U S A IS NOT INVOLVED IN SOME KIND OF INSURRECTION IN THE NEXT 5 YEARS....I WILL BE AMAZED. THERE IS NO HOPE FOR UNITY WITH THE DIVERSE POLITICAL VIEWS AND BELIEFS IN THIS COUNTRY...THE MILITARY MAY NOT BE ON YOUR SIDE...THE COURTS MAY NOT BE ON YOUR SIDE... THE POLITICIANS WON'T BE ON YOUR SIDE... THE POLICE MAY NOT BE ON YOUR SIDE... THE POLARIZATION OF GOVERNMENT IS TO DEEPLY DIVIDED FOR A COMPRISE TO ALLOW THIS COUNTRY TO BE GOVERNED ACCORDING TO THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. SOCIALISM, FASCISM, OR COMMUNISM WILL NOT PREVAIL; THOSE SYSTEMS OF RULE ARE TOTALITARIAN AND OPPOSED TO FREEDOM.A reprsentative at one time was envisioned representing about 30,000 citizens; now it's closer to a couple million per. Flyover space in a district is not represented when the congresskritter's district is drawn to touch a few points on a map (cities, hives, university campuses, whatever) to grab that "Guv-take-care-of-me" liberal demographic into the booth. IMO the USA is currently too big under the existing reapportionment scheme (circa 1929) to adequately represent its citizens. Balkanization, or insurrection as you point out, is one possible end. Some states tried for several years to politely identify their differences about why they would leave, just as the colonies had done to King George; it was the civil thing to do. Both entreaties fell on deaf ears & justices pretty much still adhere to "the victor gets to write the history." So much for peaceful secession. Sporty times ahead.
Ret10Echo
11-09-2018, 22:19
when the congresskritter's district is drawn to touch a few points on a map (cities, hives, university campuses, whatever) to grab that "Guv-take-care-of-me" liberal demographic into the booth.
Case in point:
From 2 days ago
Federal judges say Maryland's 6th congressional district is unconstitutional; map must be redrawn for 2020
In 2011 the slick Dims at the state house drew the lines for the 6th District in such a way as to neutralize Republican votes. This has been done in many districts because the huge majorities in just a few Maryland counties.
The link to the map is here (https://baltsun.carto.com/builder/f4b3b06d-9ea5-45c6-8909-4ad06877435a/embed)
District 2408 is the specific one from the lawsuit. It pulls Montgomery County, a liberal stronghold... follows a slender line up Interstate 270 in order to neuter Frederick County.
But if you look at the map you'll see where a similar tact has been taken over the years.
Airbornelawyer
11-10-2018, 04:33
A reprsentative at one time was envisioned representing about 30,000 citizens; now it's closer to a couple million per. Flyover space in a district is not represented when the congresskritter's district is drawn to touch a few points on a map (cities, hives, university campuses, whatever) to grab that "Guv-take-care-of-me" liberal demographic into the booth. IMO the USA is currently too big under the existing reapportionment scheme (circa 1929) to adequately represent its citizens. Balkanization, or insurrection as you point out, is one possible end. Some states tried for several years to politely identify their differences about why they would leave, just as the colonies had done to King George; it was the civil thing to do. Both entreaties fell on deaf ears & justices pretty much still adhere to "the victor gets to write the history." So much for peaceful secession. Sporty times ahead.
It is actually closer to 750,000, though your point is still valid.
For comparison to other large federal republics:
• India: 2,458,000 per member of the Lok Sabha
• Brazil: 409,000 per member of the Câmara dos Deputados
• Nigeria: 537,000 per member of the House of Representatives
• Mexico: 240,000 per member of the Cámara de Diputados
• Germany: 117,000-138,000 per member of the Bundestag (the size of the Bundestag changes due to the dual nature of voting (for a party and for individual districts), and is currently 709, but the minimum is 598).
Here are the numbers for some unitary republics. You'd expect a lower ratio, since the lack of regional governments with any real power means more decisions are made by the national assemblies.
• United Kingdom: 102,000 per member of the House of Commons
• France: 117,000 per member of the Assemblée Nationale
• Indonesia: 473,000 per member of the People's Representative Council
The problem is twofold. Individual representatives are unable to adequately serve their constituents because of the size of the districts. This problem wouldn't be as bad as it is if we still respected federalism, allowing local governments to deal with local problems, but we've made a federal case out of everything. So even if we increased the size of Congress, they would still be spending most of their time on issues which probably shouldn't be handled in Washington rather than on constituent service.
Regarding gerrymandering, Republicans and Democrats have both been complicit in this. Democrats wanted urban enclaves, especially those with large minority populations, as reliably Democrat-voting districts. Republican politicians supported this, because concentrating likely Democrat voters into these districts made the suburban and rural districts more reliably GOP. And then, as various suburban areas join the "'Guv-take-care-of-me' liberal demographic", the GOP is hoist by its own petard. See for example Montgomery County, Maryland, which Ret10Echo mentioned above, and Fairfax County, Virginia, two counties whose economies are pretty much dependent on the Federal government gravy train.
Badger52
11-10-2018, 06:57
This problem wouldn't be as bad as it is if we still respected federalism, allowing local governments to deal with local problems, but we've made a federal case out of everything. So even if we increased the size of Congress, they would still be spending most of their time on issues which probably shouldn't be handled in Washington rather than on constituent service.
That's a very good point. Thanks for the numbers also.
Do you see any way ahead (if any) or model that is sustainable in terms of having the Fed retracts its claws which are clearly into areas that are (or should be imo) none of its business? It seems the judiciary has continued to give a free hand to allow the central gov't to be a stakeholder in every little thing. As example it appears that people are allowed to bring suit on local governments over any little thing and can have standing in a court even if they don't live there.
Ret10Echo
11-10-2018, 07:12
Do you see any way ahead (if any) or model that is sustainable in terms of having the Fed retracts its claws which are clearly into areas that are (or should be imo) none of its business?
I believe that at least a portion (if not a majority) of that reduction of federal influence on "conditions relating wholly to matters under state control" would begin with a move away from dependency on the federal dole for states to survive. The percentage of state revenue from federal aid ranges from a low of around 19% to a high of 42% with a (non-scientific) median of around 30%. So when the state is basically a crack-addict, shunning their dealer has a very low likelihood of success.
Tax Foundation (https://taxfoundation.org/which-states-rely-most-federal-aid-0/)
Old Dog New Trick
11-10-2018, 14:07
Heading to a recount in Florida for Senate race between the winner Gov. Scott and Botox Man Sen. Nelson.
I’m just afraid that Florida, Georgia and Arizona are going to to pull a Washington State recount Dino Rossi style. Win the first count and then recount new undiscovered ballots until you get the results you want a Democrat in office. :munchin
Badger52
11-10-2018, 15:12
I believe that at least a portion (if not a majority) of that reduction of federal influence on "conditions relating wholly to matters under state control" would begin with a move away from dependency on the federal dole for states to survive. The percentage of state revenue from federal aid ranges from a low of around 19% to a high of 42% with a (non-scientific) median of around 30%. So when the state is basically a crack-addict, shunning their dealer has a very low likelihood of success.
Tax Foundation (https://taxfoundation.org/which-states-rely-most-federal-aid-0/)Concur. The brand-new D governor here based a great deal of his campaign on the notion that predecessor Walker had made the state teachers' union members pay something :eek: for their medical insurance vs. previous gov't freebie. He also had prohibited the university system from enacting tuition hikes for in-state students when it was found the U had a slush fund sitting in the 100's of millions. And he never did play in Obama's "exchanges" (since shown to be a right decision). The D's campaign became "Walker stripped education of $800M" and "Walker wants to deny your loved ones coverage for pre-existing conditions."
There has still got to be a better way to apportion representation that doesn't pander to population density over self-sufficiency. I don't know what that is, but your weaning from the teat worked for awhile here but there are some real true-believers out there who have more zeal than critical thinking skills.
Lawyers for Dems object to non-citizens’ votes being denied. WTF? Are they really that stupid? Never mind, I already know the answer to that (yes they are).
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/lawyers-for-gillum-nelson-campaigns-objected-to-noncitizens-vote-being-denied
Badger I feel your pain! Wisconsinites will miss Scott Walker after the new guy gets down to picking their pockets clean. The dem hopeful in Iowa ran on a similar platform, but thankfully the Republicans held onto the house and senate and gov's seat.
Badger52
11-10-2018, 19:27
Badger I feel your pain! Wisconsinites will miss Scott Walker after the new guy gets down to picking their pockets clean. The dem hopeful in Iowa ran on a similar platform, but thankfully the Republicans held onto the house and senate and gov's seat.Glad to hear that; you had me worried some that night.
The mantra for some time will be Trump Bad/Free Shit for Everyone