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Is The NY Times Op-Ed (http://https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/opinion/trump-white-house-anonymous-resistance.html) by this White House official proof of an insurrection against President Trump, who was duly elected through our democratic system? And, if so, how does the President and Congress stop it? I guess what I’m asking, is there a process or procedure that should go into effect, knowing that person’s within the US government are working to subvert the President? I do not see how the President can conduct military, foreign, and domestic affairs when he cannot trust those around him. I do not know enough about the law/Constitution to understand where this goes; however, I know there are some experts, here. Thanks.
Edit: I apologize, for the hyperlink. Here is the webpage address: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/opinion/trump-white-house-anonymous-resistance.html
I guess it would depend on who wrote it.
Whoever wrote it doesn't want to be known - so it could even be some left wing commie pinko that wrote it.
Considering all the complete BS that has been produced by the MSM over the past two years it's likely just more Fake News. What isn't fake news is that many in DC and the Media had committed seditious and treasonous acts to undermine President Trump.
If this is or was a real person, my money would be on John McCain being the author.
The prospect of McCain being the author makes a lot of sense. It’s hard to imagine conducting business with Judas holding a knife behind your back, though. Thanks.
It’s hard to imagine conducting business with Judas holding a knife behind your back, though.
Maybe difficult to imagine for regular folks, but for the creatures of DC this is business as usual. Even without the Presidency, DJT as a businessman has people gunning for him.
There are two sentences that caught my eye in the Op-Ed:
But we believe our first duty is to this country, and the president continues to act in a manner that is detrimental to the health of our republic.
That is why many Trump appointees have vowed to do what we can to preserve our democratic institutions while thwarting Mr. Trump’s more misguided impulses until he is out of office.
In regards to the health of the Republic, I think all one must do is look at the on going shit show at the Kavenaugh hearings to get a reading on the health of the nation.
In regards to preserving our democratic institutions.........saving the run amok institutions like the EPA, Dept of Ed, TSA, DOJ, FBI, CIA which offer safe haven to many, many useless and harmful bureaucrats.
IMO, PDJT is the least of out worries.
I don’t believe ANYTHING The NY Times prints. It wouldn’t surprise me if they made the entire article up.
Badger52
09-06-2018, 08:17
I don’t believe ANYTHING The NY Times prints. It wouldn’t surprise me if they made the entire article up.+1 Not denying that there is an obstructionist movement on both sides, it very much smells of another piece of externally-authored "castle intrigue" specifically designed to spawn an internal witch hunt. (Hell, the Soviets did it to the CIA all the time.)
To the OP thread title: not an insurrection; the 'soft' coup has been ongoing since before the election. It doesn't require the NYT - but they are a useful tool because of their readership.
Old Dog New Trick
09-06-2018, 08:55
Invoking John McStain days after his death by the NYTimes no less, in an anonymous Op-Ed piece written in third person...to further the release of a mirrored book by Bob Woodward.
Brilliant psyop to seed the mid term elections.
My how far our country’s political elite will stoop to undermine this presidency. May God have mercy on the next criminally elected Democrat.
May God have mercy on the next criminally elected Democrat.
I disagree - may god have mercy on the CITIZENRY after the next criminally elected democrat.
Basenshukai
09-06-2018, 11:19
Invoking John McStain days after his death by the NYTimes no less, in an anonymous Op-Ed piece written in third person...to further the release of a mirrored book by Bob Woodward.
Brilliant psyop to seed the mid term elections.
My how far our country’s political elite will stoop to undermine this presidency. May God have mercy on the next criminally elected Democrat.
In complete agreement here.
WarriorDiplomat
09-06-2018, 11:54
The leftist having been trying to get rid of Trump through every social media and newspaper they can find nothing new.....one of their tenants of warfare it seems is straight out disinformation, half truths, and straight lying to create division amongst conservatives and strengthen the emotional resolve of leftist....I also believe that they know how illogical and well crazy the left is and if something they write or say causes an assassination by a irrational crazy leftist on the POTUS they would shrug their shoulders of the responsibility.....I used to raise an eyebrow at the claims of communist agitators pushing the U.S. threshold but the speed that the civil rights movement is moving socialist disenfranchisement division strategies and started to divide and conquer the citizenry is eerily similar in essence that the Bolsheviks took just slower.....the difference was they toppled a Monarchy and our leftist our trying to topple a constitutional republic
I can see the RINO's and Dems especially the leftist unable to reel in their need for power over us lesser dumbasses who cannot self govern just salivating at how close they were with the fallen Messiah and HRC and they can't take it these sicko, godless, morally bankrupt, heathens bourgeoisie really see us conservatives as proletariats. Watching the news is like walking into a hospital with the smells of medication, sterilized floors and beds, sickness and disease being treated where you just want to leave and smell fresh air. The sickness is the blatant dishonesty in their reporting or having a guest on and emotionally exploding over a word taken out of context then mischaracterizing the guest(if conservative) aka Don Lemon, Piers Morgan, The view etc....they know they are doing it they too know the entire context but spin it to suit their sick agenda, youthful minded and feministic men and women hyperemotional types are exactly the target audience because they are the ones who hear the first word and tune out the rest....kill them with truth but remember that logic and truth does not have the same meaning to an irrational emotional person.
I thought Glenn Greenwald (reporter for The Intercept) had a great take on this op-ed:
Many of the complaints from the NYT's anonymous WH coward - not all, but many - are ideological: that Trump deviates from GOP orthodoxy, an ideology he didn't campaign on & that voters didn't ratify. Trump may be a threat but so is this covert coup to impose these policies.
The irony in the op-ed from the NYT's anonymous WH coward is glaring and massive: s/he accuses Trump of being "anti-democratic" while boasting of membership in an unelected cabal that covertly imposes their own ideology with zero democratic accountability, mandate or transparency
I thought Glenn Greenwald (reporter for The Intercept) had a great take on this op-ed:
Greenwald’s second quote espouses my view on this. I mean, who the hell do they think they are to decide what is right for us? We didn’t elect them, we (the majority) chose Trump to represent us and lead the country.
Also, insurrection may have been too strong of a word to describe their misinformation agenda and processes. The radical left and scared, entrenched right are so overtly coming out against the President that it surprises me. I’ve known that such things occur in the shadows and behind closed doors, but this is directly, out in the open. I shouldn’t be surprised, I guess.
Thanks for the replies and viewpoints.
rsdengler
09-06-2018, 12:39
I don’t believe ANYTHING The NY Times prints. It wouldn’t surprise me if they made the entire article up.
With you on this, I don't believe in fairness or truth of reporting from most media outlets much less the NY Times. Hell, if they wrote an article stating Trump was the illegitimate son of Hitler, people would believe it. A lot of people want Trump out, no matter what, and if it helps by spewing "fake" news to the masses then let's shout it from the Nike Building.....:munchin
I disagree - may god have mercy on the CITIZENRY after the next criminally elected democrat.
LOL.....Damned straight....I am going to be "stocking" up.......what a shit show it's going to be.....:D
sfshooter
09-06-2018, 19:17
Op-ed fake news to support this:
https://www.businessinsider.com/elizabeth-warren-25th-amendment-trump-nyt-op-ed-2018-9
Someone finally came up with the idea to write a piece as if they are in the Administration so more fuel could be thrown towards this b.s.
Team Sergeant
09-09-2018, 22:03
I don’t believe ANYTHING The NY Times prints. It wouldn’t surprise me if they made the entire article up.
Agree.
I sometimes take a look at some of the NYT's articles, but always think, it's probably not true. They have a history of liars.