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Paslode
07-14-2018, 06:04
Here's an interesting article from the from the Washington Compost that stirs the coals on a number of topics such as Racial Divide, the Electoral College, Secession and Civil War.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/07/12/in-about-20-years-half-the-population-will-live-in-eight-states/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.115569ae10b6

https://demographics.coopercenter.org/national-population-projections

cbtengr
07-14-2018, 06:31
The comments following the piece are interesting, a lot of haters out there. I am all broke up about the hysterics of all this. Let's all hope the Electoral College is around for a long long time.

GratefulCitizen
07-14-2018, 11:49
This nation is not a democracy, it is a constitutional republic.
Why is this so difficult for many to understand?

That pesky Constitution and true believers clinging to their guns and religion just won't get out of the way!
Why don't they just roll over and yield to their self-appointed masters?

WarriorDiplomat
07-14-2018, 19:59
The comments following the piece are interesting, a lot of haters out there. I am all broke up about the hysterics of all this. Let's all hope the Electoral College is around for a long long time.

Yep the Looney left keeps showing their asses the beauty is it isn't a Goebbelsesque strategy it's real hence the walk away movement. The left is as I have said a loose federation of self interest groups each ignoring the others insanity. I really the African American awakening going on with the get off the Democratic plantation movements.......I think it will be a long time before leftist as progressive as Obama was gets near the Presidency again. Obama didn't do shit his first term except be an African American his real radical shit blossomed on his second term and IMO many Dems are leary for another like him especially the way the Looney left has given voice to the irrational leftist colleges.

WarriorDiplomat
07-14-2018, 20:18
IItThis nation is not a democracy, it is a constitutional republic.
Why is this so difficult for many to understand?

That pesky Constitution and true believers clinging to their guns and religion just won't get out of the way!
Why don't they just roll over and yield to their self-appointed masters?

I remember thinking that the reason the liberal T.V. showed the actual voters and the electoral college results are in attempts to get the public on board with eliminating the electoral college. What's also of note that the term democracy has been used officially consistently since the early 20th century around the time of expeditionary wars were becoming a normal part of being in the USMC following the industrial revolution and central banking, Wall Street etc....the term is used as an excuse to go to other countries and in order to get populace support we bring democracy to countries who "suffer under tyranny". The word has been over used and abused by politicians and has since the early 20th found it's way into the average Americans belief of what our system is....the public has been conditioned to believe democracy is free choice hell the military uses it in every other speech of the why we are fighting. You got to hand it to leftists they know exactly what getting Americans on board with democracy means it is actually diabolical to push to eliminate the electoral college.

Badger52
07-15-2018, 05:31
Check out their doctrine & vision (https://www.dsausa.org/); they'll make it very clear to you. These despots are well-funded & well-organized.

RCummings
07-15-2018, 05:56
B52,
Just looking at the sign, it doesn't rhyme. Is it stuck to the outside of a garbage bin?
Maybe someone just didn't make it in. Possibly someone needs the fare to make it far away from...here, or there.

Ret10Echo
07-15-2018, 06:56
Unsurprising given the forced two-party reality of the US and how those parties are working to accelerate their separation (and with that the division of the population) :munchin

Badger52
07-15-2018, 08:32
B52,
Just looking at the sign, it doesn't rhyme. Is it stuck to the outside of a garbage bin?It's doesn't have to rhyme, lol, it's their menu. Imagine it in your face with their spit on your chin as they scream it at the top of their lungs.

cbtengr
07-15-2018, 12:10
Check out their doctrine & vision (https://www.dsausa.org/); they'll make it very clear to you. These despots are well-funded & well-organized.

A 501 (c) (3 ) , I'll bet Lois Lerner handled that one personally. We have met the enemy and it ain't us it's these assholes.

RCummings
07-15-2018, 13:41
"Imagine it in your face with their spit on your chin as they scream it at the top of their lungs".

Thought about this statement for a while, I can't visualize myself in the position described. I do still find humor with the poster shown, it looks like any other statement made by individuals who make excuses for their failures.

V/R

Bob

tonyz
07-15-2018, 18:37
Check out their doctrine & vision (https://www.dsausa.org/); they'll make it very clear to you. These despots are well-funded & well-organized.

That poster is essentially a recruitment poster for the left. And, recruitment happens to be up for those assholes.

The DSA web page details the agenda for the largest socialist organization in the nation. It appears ambitious.

When you consider the definition set forth below you can see why the party (the State) is paramount for the leftist Dems. They all stick to the script...how else will the State succeed ? The State is their “religion.” The State will cure all ills. In contrast, the right appears to be made up of essentially a bunch of individuals who for the most part would rather be left alone.

I think of socialism as communism-lite. Unfortunately, the socialist cancer appears to be picking up a bit of steam here.

Merriam-Webster definition of socialism:

1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods

2 a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state

3 : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done

Badger52
07-16-2018, 04:24
"...collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods"
Thanks for including the "you can look it up" meaning.

This is where Emperor for Life Wannabe got his retort "You didn't build that." It wasn't a quip; it's part & parcel of the thinking.

miclo18d
07-16-2018, 04:47
That poster is essentially a recruitment poster for the left. And, recruitment happens to be up for those assholes.

The DSA web page details the agenda for the largest socialist organization in the nation. It appears ambitious.

When you consider the definition set forth below you can see why the party (the State) is paramount for the leftist Dems. They all stick to the script...how else will the State succeed ? The State is their “religion.” The State will cure all ills. In contrast, the right appears to be made up of essentially a bunch of individuals who for the most part would rather be left alone.

I think of socialism as communism-lite. Unfortunately, the socialist cancer appears to be picking up a bit of steam here.

Merriam-Webster definition of socialism:

1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods

2 a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state

3 : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done
Actually communism is socialism that didn’t work and had to become “the dictatorship of the proletariat”. Basically, we cant live together sharing so we will force it on you. This enforcement is called “the workers paradise”. Live it, love it!

tonyz
07-16-2018, 06:33
Actually communism is socialism that didn’t work and had to become “the dictatorship of the proletariat”. Basically, we cant live together sharing so we will force it on you. This enforcement is called “the workers paradise”. Live it, love it!

And, those tolerant Marxists are more than willing to either re-educate (torture / imprison) or murder those who might think about standing in the way of that lovely “worker’s paradise.”

Box
07-16-2018, 06:52
It would seem like their goal for aMEricas future is a boot stamping on a human face - forever.

Mustang Man
07-16-2018, 07:51
This has been a systematic effort lining up with the United Nation's Agenda 2030.

https://sustainabledevelopment.un.org/post2015/transformingourworld

11.b By 2020, substantially increase the number of cities and human settlements adopting and implementing integrated policies and plans towards inclusion, resource efficiency, mitigation and adaptation to climate change, resilience to disasters, and develop and implement, in line with the Sendai Framework for Disaster Risk Reduction 2015-2030, holistic disaster risk management at all levels.

rsdengler
07-16-2018, 10:14
Check out their doctrine & vision (https://www.dsausa.org/); they'll make it very clear to you. These despots are well-funded & well-organized.

I can't stand when useless weasels drivel crap like "doctrine and workers unite" agendas. It's like they don't get their way in life so they have to try to shove their one-sided views/vision down our throats. Nice, does that mean we have to iron our little brown shorts and stomp around town kicking the shit out of everyone who does not agree with us? Little snot-bags....:D

So I guess in the next 20 years I will try to find a location outside of the 8 states with the majority of the population. I really cannot stand crowds; too close to sniveling douchebags and sweaty, smelly people make me claustrophobic.......LOL....:munchin

Badger52
07-16-2018, 11:32
I really cannot stand crowds; too close to sniveling douchebags and sweaty, smelly people make me claustrophobic.......LOL....:munchinGood words Rita. As RCummings correctly noted above, avoiding crowds & those situations has much merit.

RCummings
07-16-2018, 13:45
B52,

I'm glad my comment did not sound flippant. We are now far from the woods where we lived and have more of an opportunity to see "protests" if we cared. The Twin Cities seem to have folks not at work with the time to protest this or that.

Thats America,

V/R

Bob

Badger52
07-16-2018, 14:09
B52,

I'm glad my comment did not sound flippant. We are now far from the woods where we lived and have more of an opportunity to see "protests" if we cared. The Twin Cities seem to have folks not at work with the time to protest this or that.

Thats America,

V/R

BobEh, no worries.

When they're not demonstrating they're looking through the Mnpls or Chicago craigslist for more employment opportunities. Back when the legislature here passed an act that would actually require teachers to pay something/anything for their health insurance :eek: there were several thousand demonstrators in the capitol. A few hundred from the local Univ (because, why not?) and others were made up of people earning some temp bucks, charter-bussed in from both those cities. When they'd gotten what they wanted from the news-cycle, they disappeared & went back home looking for another gig.

As I mentioned, the higher level orgs involved have the resources & don't mind throwing them around to repeat a lie du jour as often as they feel the need to.

Paslode
07-17-2018, 07:23
The comments following the piece are interesting, a lot of haters out there. I am all broke up about the hysterics of all this. Let's all hope the Electoral College is around for a long long time.

After I read into the article and got to the portion where flyover country could hold the 8 large states in check I just chuckled. The Framers were absolutely brilliant guys!

The Electoral College might be the last wall of defense against the crazed hoard. The day it is removed the after effects will be like a swarm of locusts.

Quartz_MJC
07-17-2018, 10:21
Ben Franklin once said. Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to eat for dinner. Liberty is a well armed sheep". Way back in the day the framers of the constitution debated at length on how to protect the small from the large. One solution ,as is the current construct, was to provide 2 Senators per state.

Badger52
07-17-2018, 12:38
Way back in the day the framers of the constitution debated at length on how to protect the small from the large. One solution ,as is the current construct, was to provide 2 Senators per state.Without digging around on the bookshelf I believe those 2 senators were originally to be appointed by the state legislatures (and subject to their recall at the state's choosing). And you're right; there was much gnashing of teeth over that.

Many states have their own version of "flyover" country; 1 or 2 major metro hives who think they run the state (and sometimes do) with more rural/small-suburban towns in the actual bulk of the real estate. NY, IL, and CA are the shining examples of that (their biggest power centers aren't even the state capital). But many states have the same problem.

8 Nov 2016: Reality of the Electoral College pops a flare on itself.
:cool: