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Green Beret waterboards himself in support of Trump's CIA pick Gina Haspel
Green Beret and former UFC fighter Tim Kennedy waterboarded himself on Saturday to help prove that the controversial interrogation technique is not torture amid debate on Capitol Hill about President Trump’s pick to lead the CIA.
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Kennedy said in the 41-minute video that he hoped to show that nominee Gina Haspel has been wrongly criticized for her role in "enhanced interrogation techniques" at a CIA black site.
He called Haspel an "amazing hero" who is being unfairly attacked.
More than 100 former U.S. ambassadors who served both Republican and Democratic presidents sent the Senate a letter last week opposing Haspel, saying that despite her credentials, confirming her would give authoritarian leaders around the world the license to say U.S. behavior is “no different from ours.”
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/05/14/green-beret-waterboards-himself-in-support-trumps-cia-pick-gina-haspel.html
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Streck-Fu
05-14-2018, 06:43
....confirming her would give authoritarian leaders around the world the license to say U.S. behavior is “no different from ours.”
LOL....
Dean Jarvis
05-14-2018, 11:51
During our phase III exercise we were all told that if we were caught that they would put a towel over our face and poor water on it as an interrogation technique. They did not use the term Water Boarding and it wasn't until this all came out during the investigation of the CIA using it did I realize that was what they used in our training.
I did not hear from anyone that had been captured if they used it on them and I can't confirm if it was a rumor to scare us or if they actually used it as part of our training. Can anyone out there confirm it was in fact used as part of the phase III training?
During our phase III exercise we were all told that if we were caught that they would put a towel over our face and poor water on it as an interrogation technique. They did not use the term Water Boarding and it wasn't until this all came out during the investigation of the CIA using it did I realize that was what they used in our training.
I did not hear from anyone that had been captured if they used it on them and I can't confirm if it was a rumor to scare us or if they actually used it as part of our training. Can anyone out there confirm it was in fact used as part of the phase III training?
Yes, it was done to some who'd been captured.
The central safe house known then as Exercise Directorate Headquarters (EDH) was where students who had been captured by our OPFOR (82d) personnel were sometimes taken. I know of several who were then taken to the "Well of Knowledge" by their cadre.
As I understood it, there was either a SERE interrogator or a former interrogator who would make himself available when needed by cadre either at EDH, or the south safe house.
WarriorDiplomat
05-19-2018, 12:13
Tim Kennedy was an 18X and former UFC fighter he isn't retired I thought he was in the TXNG ?....what troubles me is his lack of SA but common for the new era in which the waterboardng issue has gone somewhat cold outside of the accusation from Khalid Shaikh Mohammed and the new CIA director....for the most part many of the interrogators CIA and contractors who used it have admitted it was of little value for gaining intel due to the fact that many harsh techniques produced false intel just to stop the process.....so the troubling part is he is willing to do anything to be relevant but has the personality of someone on the autistic spectrum...not really the brightest bulb...but as a current or former SF guy who grew up in privilege even by U.S. standards and a world class athlete with the finest health care and fitness not to mention that he apparently had been preparing to do this willingly for the sake of personal publicity re-ignite the torture discussion is an idiot...especially as stated he CHOSE to do this not under detainment and not under the fear of really dying and the fact that he is going home and he has an incentive of getting his own show as part of his expectations.....Jesus Christ this was a negative for conservatives.
Whether he thinks its torture or not is not the discussion anymore the fact was it was legal then it was determined to no longer be the issue....he has been trying like crazy since he left active SF to be famous at any costs.
Meh. Doesn't phase me one way or the other. I truly don't care.
One aggravating aspect to this entire issue is that because it was legal, and therefore one tool in the toolbox available for those end users, aren't they therefore obligated to use whatever they legally have at there disposal?
For this entire confirmation hearing (in Democrats eyes) to have hinged on this one political issue, despite all the other obvious qualifications of this nominee, makes whatever anyone else thinks regarding waterboarding mute.
It's all about a political agenda despite the facts, and Kennedy's attempt to make sense of it for anyone, doesn't matter.
As for his publicity stunt, I suspect that it will largely be seen for what it is, just a publicity stunt :rolleyes:
Perhaps he should have been a SEAL.....