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Penn
04-26-2018, 00:21
Several threads that have discussed the progressive movement assault on freedom, revolution, and civil war, one example is the following.
http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53442&page=1 That said, and imoo, none has concisely presented, in a coherent way, each method the progressive left has employed in this march towards implosion, and therefore needed its own thread.

After reading VDH article attached below, we may have arrived.

Revolution and worse to come
Victor Davis Hanson

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/04/trump-resistance-democratic-party-revolutionary-times/?utm_source=Hoover+Daily+Report&utm_campaign=7281275850-HDR&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_21b1edff3c-7281275850-73437989

JimP
04-26-2018, 05:47
I say "bring it." I suspect it won't be much of a fight. When the left runs out of soy-moche latte's and the supply of skinny-jeans gets cut off, they'll be on their knees in short order.

Cut the goblins in the urban areas off from their free food and that shit will stop real quick, fast, and in-a-hurry. it's hard to be a "revolutionary" when you have to actually figure out how to feed yourself.

Box
04-26-2018, 06:14
I say "bring it." I suspect it won't be much of a fight. When the left runs out of soy-moche latte's and the supply of skinny-jeans gets cut off, they'll be on their knees in short order.

Cut the goblins in the urban areas off from their free food and that shit will stop real quick, fast, and in-a-hurry. it's hard to be a "revolutionary" when you have to actually figure out how to feed yourself.



That is a very dangerous attitude to foster in the current environment.

-Those skinny jean wearing, soy-mocha-latte slurping hippies are beating people in the streets with bicycle locks.
-Those skinny jean wearing, soy-mocha-latte slurping hippies are running the court system.
-Those skinny jean wearing, soy-mocha-latte slurping hippies are in charge of our major cities.
-Those skinny jean wearing, soy-mocha-latte slurping hippies are hidden throughout the US Military (how many folks like that Spencer Rapone guy think like him, but are just smart enough not to post it on FakeB00k)
-Those skinny jean wearing, soy-mocha-latte slurping hippies are carrying their own M4s to their rallies.
-Those skinny jean wearing, soy-mocha-latte slurping hippies are still using the same "free silver" slogans that they weere using over a hundred years ago and people are still falling for it
-Those skinny jean wearing, soy-mocha-latte slurping hippies are the same ones that are shooting up the schools and then protesting that YOU turn in YOUR guns



Be very careful about the assumption that skinny jean wearing, soy-moche-latte slurping hippies are a soft target...


Just my two cents - I could be wrong

tonyz
04-26-2018, 06:36
That is a very dangerous attitude to foster in the current environment.

-Those skinny jean wearing, soy-mocha-latte slurping hippies are beating people in the streets with bicycle locks.
-Those skinny jean wearing, soy-mocha-latte slurping hippies are running the court system.
-Those skinny jean wearing, soy-mocha-latte slurping hippies are in charge of our major cities.
-Those skinny jean wearing, soy-mocha-latte slurping hippies are hidden throughout the US Military (how many folks like that Spencer Rapone guy think like him, but are just smart enough not to post it on FakeB00k)
-Those skinny jean wearing, soy-mocha-latte slurping hippies are carrying their own M4s to their rallies.
-Those skinny jean wearing, soy-mocha-latte slurping hippies are still using the same "free silver" slogans that they weere using over a hundred years ago and people are still falling for it
-Those skinny jean wearing, soy-mocha-latte slurping hippies are the same ones that are shooting up the schools and then protesting that YOU turn in YOUR guns



Be very careful about the assumption that skinny jean wearing, soy-moche-latte slurping hippies are a soft target...


Just my two cents - I could be wrong

Concur.

The opposition is deceptive, persistent and have infiltrated the highest levels of education, government, and the judicial system...over a period of decades.

They almost put a Stateist criminal into the highest elected office in the country...and she had to cheat to beat the communist in a primary.

rsdengler
04-26-2018, 06:55
Stay vigilant and well-armed my friends; and be very weary of people wearing skinny jeans and hippies slurping putrid Soy-Moche-Lattes.:D

Box is spot on, and I have to say so very philosophical today; OOOHHHHH…and that is downright stimulating…just saying….LOL….(Note to self…don’t drink the entire pot of Black Rifle BB Beyond Black Coffee in the mornings before work):p

Box
04-26-2018, 07:31
They almost put a Stateist criminal into the highest elected office in the country...and she had to cheat to beat the communist in a primary.


That sends an icy chill down my spine...

Those were the two best leaders that the democrats had to offer as global leaders. It's what our system produces, just like George Carlin said........


...where do people think these politicians come from? They don't fall out of the sky. They don't pass through a membrane from another reality. They come from American parents and American families, American homes, American schools, American churches, American businesses and American universities, and they are elected by American citizens. This is the best we can do folks. This is what we have to offer. It's what our system produces: Garbage in, garbage out. If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're going to get selfish, ignorant leaders. Term limits ain't going to do any good; you're just going to end up with a brand new bunch of selfish, ignorant Americans.
So, maybe, maybe, maybe, it's not the politicians who suck.
Maybe something else sucks around here...
...like, the public.
Yeah, the public sucks.
There's a nice campaign slogan for somebody: 'The Public Sucks. F*ck Hope.”

JimP
04-26-2018, 08:36
Not so sure...They are brave when they arrange things in their favor. Match them up and go toe-to-toe and most are off to their safe spaces.

The bike-wielding puzzy lunged out of a crowd and smacked the guy and then immediately retreated back to "safety." Remove the safety net and go at it - I don't think they'll last too long. For everyone of those "USA out of North America" types, there's literally hundreds of vets.

atticus finch
04-26-2018, 08:50
That is a very dangerous attitude to foster in the current environment.

-Those skinny jean wearing, soy-mocha-latte slurping hippies are beating people in the streets with bicycle locks.
-Those skinny jean wearing, soy-mocha-latte slurping hippies are running the court system.
-Those skinny jean wearing, soy-mocha-latte slurping hippies are in charge of our major cities.
-Those skinny jean wearing, soy-mocha-latte slurping hippies are hidden throughout the US Military (how many folks like that Spencer Rapone guy think like him, but are just smart enough not to post it on FakeB00k)
-Those skinny jean wearing, soy-mocha-latte slurping hippies are carrying their own M4s to their rallies.
-Those skinny jean wearing, soy-mocha-latte slurping hippies are still using the same "free silver" slogans that they weere using over a hundred years ago and people are still falling for it
-Those skinny jean wearing, soy-mocha-latte slurping hippies are the same ones that are shooting up the schools and then protesting that YOU turn in YOUR guns



Be very careful about the assumption that skinny jean wearing, soy-moche-latte slurping hippies are a soft target...


Just my two cents - I could be wrong

they are training with said m-4's, they look inept now? Laugh at their amatuer beginnings, come back in 3-5 years and see how they look. How did we look when we first started handling firearms?

They are organizing amongst themselves and training each other.
1. they know how to use drone tech, how hard is it to make a GPS guided weapon operated remotely or on it's own?
fire is a weapon, add fire making ability to a drone which can be done and you have the previous. Relatively cheap, reasonably easy to do, and damn near untraceable.

They are acquiring intel on anyone who opposes them, see the article in wired magazine. Now add #1 to that.

They have developed the ability to protect their individual organizational nodes from infiltration, and dox anyone they suspect on their websites.
They know the value of anonymity, hence masks and no facial ID as one example.

They already have the non top-down organizational structure in place, nationwide.

They have areas of like-minded public support within this country both physical areas as well as the media and likely courts and other civic institutions.

They have made contact with and are receiving support from outside this country, that evidently being islamic organizations. Which potentially gives them access to heavy man-portable weapons.
Weapons which are essentially beyond the practical reach of the ordinary citizen within this country.

They are advocating amongst themselves and teaching themselves logistical self sustainment, food production & so forth.

At the riots they engage in (so-called 'protests') , they have sufficient logistical ability to organize, train, and engage in such riots and have attorneys on standby.

They fully agree on their goals, work collectively towards them and don't waste time bickering amongst themselves over picuyune minutae.

And they're just getting started with all of this.

How much of this does our side of the political fence have going for ourselves?

I don't view them with a dismissive attitude.

sfshooter
04-26-2018, 11:04
The armed, true American citizen, is that individual who is most likely a veteran and knows how to handle firearms and has a knowledge of tactics, and is also the one who's voice is never heard, who's face is never in the media, who's culture is never spoken well of, who's stories are never told in the current propaganda of today.
Lets add in all those others who have a firearm in their home and have used one all their life and who hunt big game animals every year who may not have ever been in the military but know how to stalk and fire with accuracy.

This my friends is the majority. Not the freaks melting down over a goose who has one leg held up in the air. These Americans will take a lot of abuse from the commie, American hating leftists that populate this country.

I don't know what the trigger point will be to set these people off but beware if they get set off as a calculating mindset to protect ones self and country is much more deadly than one of fanciful ideas of utopia.

My opinion.

GratefulCitizen
04-26-2018, 11:36
Critical difference:

One side desires to dominate and control.
The other seeks to live free or die.

Control requires a high degree of coordination, and is subject to organizational collapse.
Those desiring to remain free function well in decentralized structures.

They think imposing chaos and collapse is the means to impose a new order.
Humpty Dumpty would beg to differ.

Team Sergeant
04-26-2018, 11:52
Well, except for the nazi antifa cowards pushing around some college kids and old farts.

Mr. Trump, now President Trump, was the right of centers “push-back” against uncontrolled liberal-socialist corruption.

The message was sent and well received. As you can see only the “left” is up in arms……… so? Really who gives a fuck?

They even tried a bloodless coup, that didn’t work either. They can “mobilize” their base but its leaderless and has no sense of direction. Hence the “socialists” out of the closet and running for gov positions.

Grasping at straws I think is the term that can be applied to the left-wing wackos.

Want to hurt them, really bad?

Boycott faketube, boycott google, boycott fakebook. Boycotting those three alone would probably break their base of supporters.

Socialism = corruption, hurt them in the pocket book.

Besides, I like some of the "new" left-wing wackos, like Mad Max-cine. She makes me laugh out loud every time she's mentioned in the left-wing media. Nancy-P, she's been brain dead for a decade, not even relevant (or amusing) anymore.

echoes
04-26-2018, 12:14
Well, except for the nazi antifa cowards pushing around some college kids and old farts.

Mr. Trump, now President Trump, was the right of centers “push-back” against uncontrolled liberal-socialist corruption.

The message was sent and well received. As you can see only the “left” is up in arms……… so? Really who gives a fuck?

They even tried a bloodless coup, that didn’t work either. They can “mobilize” their base but its leaderless and has no sense of direction. Hence the “socialists” out of the closet and running for gov positions.

Grasping at straws I think is the term that can be applied to the left-wing wackos.

Want to hurt them, really bad?

Boycott faketube, boycott google, boycott fakebook. Boycotting those three alone would probably break their base of supporters.

Socialism = corruption, hurt them in the pocket book.

Besides, I like some of the "new" left-wing wackos, like Mad Max-cine. She makes me laugh out loud every time she's mentioned in the left-wing media. Nancy-P, she's been brain dead for a decade, not even relevant (or amusing) anymore.

^^^^^^

Perfect summation by TS on the topic of Revolution, IMHO.

And indeed the shrill, brittle, high on meth octave of Mad-Maxine is enough to have your morning coffee spew with rounds of laughter. (Wasn't there a witch-hunt thread around here somewhere...) :lifter Burn baby Burn! LOL


Holly

EricV
04-26-2018, 17:59
they are training with said m-4's, they look inept now? Laugh at their amatuer beginnings, come back in 3-5 years and see how they look. How did we look when we first started handling firearms?

They are organizing amongst themselves and training each other.
1. they know how to use drone tech, how hard is it to make a GPS guided weapon operated remotely or on it's own?
fire is a weapon, add fire making ability to a drone which can be done and you have the previous. Relatively cheap, reasonably easy to do, and damn near untraceable.

They are acquiring intel on anyone who opposes them, see the article in wired magazine. Now add #1 to that.

They have developed the ability to protect their individual organizational nodes from infiltration, and dox anyone they suspect on their websites.
They know the value of anonymity, hence masks and no facial ID as one example.

They already have the non top-down organizational structure in place, nationwide.

They have areas of like-minded public support within this country both physical areas as well as the media and likely courts and other civic institutions.

They have made contact with and are receiving support from outside this country, that evidently being islamic organizations. Which potentially gives them access to heavy man-portable weapons.
Weapons which are essentially beyond the practical reach of the ordinary citizen within this country.

They are advocating amongst themselves and teaching themselves logistical self sustainment, food production & so forth.

At the riots they engage in (so-called 'protests') , they have sufficient logistical ability to organize, train, and engage in such riots and have attorneys on standby.

They fully agree on their goals, work collectively towards them and don't waste time bickering amongst themselves over picuyune minutae.

And they're just getting started with all of this.

How much of this does our side of the political fence have going for ourselves?

I don't view them with a dismissive attitude.

I have to agree with this. It's an excellent list. At 66 I lived through "The Sixties" and watched went on quite closely. They might not win, but can do a heck of a lot of damage.

Penn
04-26-2018, 18:47
Funny thing said to me after catering a dinner for the President of the EU and others at a small dinner party in Princeton, right after the election. And I quote, because it stuck with me that it was only a month later. " ..some are talking that a civil war could evolve in America". I blew the comment off, but now, after time has pass, and I think of the person that stated that remark, I think its global.

Team Sergeant
04-26-2018, 20:31
Funny thing said to me after catering a dinner for the President of the EU and others at a small dinner party in Princeton, right after the election. And I quote, because it stuck with me that it was only a month later. " ..some are talking that a civil war could evolve in America". I blew the comment off, but now, after time has pass, and I think of the person that stated that remark, I think its global.


I'm sure he/she was talking about the upcoming Avengers movie.

A war takes armed "men" to fight it. I challenge you to find some "men" on the liberal progressive socialist side........:munchin

Box
04-26-2018, 20:31
An interesting read for those that like to ponder such impossibilities within the USA....

http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a543006.pdf

PSM
04-26-2018, 20:36
I'm sure he/she was talking about the upcoming Avengers movie.

A war takes armed "men" to fight it. I challenge you to find some "men" on the liberal progressive socialist side........:munchin

That's probably why they cozy up to ex-cons, gangs, and young illegal immigrants. They are not trained, but they can cause mayhem: Cloward–Piven.

bblhead672
04-27-2018, 07:46
A war takes armed "men" to fight it. I challenge you to find some "men" on the liberal progressive socialist side........:munchin

Whenever the talk turns to the progressive socialists taking up arms against the normals, it reminds of this Schlichter piece about Hillary's Hipster Army.
Hillary’s Hipster Army Prepares For The Second Civil War (https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2015/08/10/hillarys-hipster-army-prepares-for-the-second-civil-war-n2036475)
Even without Felonia Von Pantsuit as POTUS, it seems relevant. :D

rsdengler
04-27-2018, 08:10
I'm sure he/she was talking about the upcoming Avengers movie.

A war takes armed "men" to fight it. I challenge you to find some "men" on the liberal progressive socialist side........:munchin

LOL...Nope, do you really believe that there are "real men" on the liberal progressive socialist side? Hell, they rather wear skinny jeans, drive a "P" Prius, drink soy-milk lattes, and have a closet full of vagina hats, .....just saying:munchin

Box
04-27-2018, 08:36
men or not... there are more than a few liberal progressive socialists serving in our armed forces
some more openly than others

tom kelly
04-27-2018, 13:54
men or not... there are more than a few liberal progressive socialists serving in our armed forces
some more openly than others

You are probably right-on BUT, will the rank & file eg. fire teams, squad leaders, companies, BCT, Divisions follow the liberal"Progressive" so called leaders. For Instance The Battalion of Marines stationed at Kings Bay GA. The 82nd Airborne Div, Brigade Combat Teams, The SFOD-D ???? Who will lead & Who will follow ? tom kelly

7624U
04-27-2018, 19:47
You are probably right-on BUT, will the rank & file eg. fire teams, squad leaders, companies, BCT, Divisions follow the liberal"Progressive" so called leaders. For Instance The Battalion of Marines stationed at Kings Bay GA. The 82nd Airborne Div, Brigade Combat Teams, The SFOD-D ???? Who will lead & Who will follow ? tom kelly

Better to follow them and keep them up front where we can keep a eye on them. I don't want them behind me with a loaded weapon they are always the guys or gals that have something come up when its range time. When they do show up they are always forced to buy beer for everyone after the shooting is done.

Penn
10-29-2018, 20:22
Rambles...

I am revisiting this thread as the violence continues to escalate, a (R) in FL has his office shot up, political discourse continues to decline, and the more that this pattern continues, I come back to the original comment made to me after the election: the possibility of civil war.

Now the person that made this comment to me, heads one of the most influential political science departments on the planet, and according to him, he is both a globalist and a state-ist. When asked his opinion on May's comment, that the state was the enduring institution, and if he agreed, he replied with caveat's. When directly asked if national identity matter, exampling "I am a European", rather than I am a Liechtensteiner. They fell silent.

That said, imoo, the only logical conclusion, absent all other considerations, leads me to believe, that both locally - institutionally, and within the us.gov, and internationally, there exist a force determine to undermine the Ideals enshrined in the the US Constitution.

Further, I believe that socio-political elite, are determine to overthrow the constitutional order, by whatever means necessary, and through which, they will exercise control and institute a new social order.

With that in mind, this election is pivotal, as important as the 1972 election, which launched and ensconced the careers of Kerry and the Clintonist for the past 40+yrs.

All of that said, imoo, I do not believe that we will escape the carnage of open social implosion, as this election will further erode the left's influence, forcing them to react violently as an opposition, control by outside forces, with a world view, absent of individual rights.

Old Dog New Trick
10-29-2018, 21:40
Bring it! I’m getting tired of the pussyfooting and tiptoeing around the issues.

Let Americans choose to be a Free Constitutional Republic or fall in line with Socialist Europeons (sic). We fought and won our freedom from oppression before and we have fought each other to free enslaved men and retain the union as one. Neither before or next will the end justify the means but there is no peace without war and war settles the debate. The winner gets to control the aftermath.

frostfire
10-30-2018, 08:30
Bring it! I’m getting tired of the pussyfooting and tiptoeing around the issues.

Let Americans choose to be a Free Constitutional Republic or fall in line with Socialist Europeons (sic). We fought and won our freedom from oppression before and we have fought each other to free enslaved men and retain the union as one. Neither before or next will the end justify the means but there is no peace without war and war settles the debate. The winner gets to control the aftermath.

Imhoo, just like the foreign policy lesson learned after h-bomb, the power to destroy (win the war) is not the power to control.
Great compromise is the road to go as unappealing as it is.
Yes, I am still brainstorming how to win over my leftist associates

Box
10-30-2018, 09:53
I think politicians that tell people "you cannot be civil" when dealing with your political opposition instigate dangerous behavior. Politicians that tell people to "draw a crowd" instigate dangerous behavior.

I would sincerely invite some examples of when leadership on "the right" has advocated violence or open and abject resistance. I am sure it's out there - but I don't "see" it through my own biased opinions.

Obama saying "I need you to go out and talk to your friends and talk to your neighbors, I want you to talk to them whether they are independents, or republicans, and I want you to argue with them and get in their face"
or when talking abou tdoing things "the Chicago way" he made the comments, They’re going to try to scare people. "They’re going to try to say that ‘that Obama is a scary guy.’ If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun. because from what I understand folks in Philly like a good brawl."
Or even just being 'peacefully derisive' to people that 'cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them'
...antagonistic at best - so much so that even hitlery called him an elitist

speaking of hitlery - the queen be of "You cannot be civil with a political party that wants to destroy what you stand for"
...well, of course we ALL know that only democrats are allowed to live by that mantra. Republicans that refuse to be civil are just plain evil.
Probably because we are preoccupied with our guns and religion I guess

Cries by republican leadership (to me) are almost always "reactionary" as opposed to democrats being much more overt and offensive when they tell people to drum up crowds, get in faces, and resist resist resist


Civility?
Ha - democrats are wolves and vultures dressed in Armani and Prada
Republicans are no different - they just sell a different flavor of kool-aid