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Team Sergeant
04-25-2018, 08:01
Anytime a politician mentions the word "free" they should be removed from the gene pool.

Reparations, wonder how far back they plan on going??? 1700's? 1600's? They're going to need a bowing president for this world tour.

This sort of pandering only entices the low IQ voters, but then again, they placed barry soetoro in office, so it could/will happen again.

What Bernie doesn't say that while the money is free, it will cost you your rights.





Reparations, income handouts, guaranteed jobs: Dems tilt hard left with new pet projects
By Adam Shaw | Fox News

Free tuition, minimum wage hikes and "Medicare for all" are so 2016.
As Democrats look ahead to the midterms and the 2020 presidential race, lawmakers and candidates are pushing the agenda even further to the left -- with bigger promises of sweeping government welfare programs ranging from guaranteed jobs to universal income.

Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., the standard-bearer for the party's left flank in 2016, once again is helping to lead the charge. He reportedly is set to announce a plan that will guarantee a $15-an-hour job and health-care benefits to every American “who wants or need one.” The plan, first reported by The Washington Post, would fund hundreds of government projects such as “infrastructure, care giving, the environment, education and other goals.”

Sanders’ office said they have not yet done a cost estimate or devised how they would pay for the massive government commitment. A spokesman for Sanders did not respond to a request for more details from Fox News.

But while Sanders once represented a fringe on the Democratic Party’s left, his views are becoming more mainstream in the party, with at least two other presidential prospects adopting similar policy proposals that would make Roosevelt’s New Deal look like old hat.

“I think Senator Sanders’ performance during the presidential campaign was much better than other Democrats expected, and this has given him a higher profile and greater standing in the campaign,” Stan Veuger, economist at the conservative American Enterprise Institute, told Fox News.

“Hillary [Clinton] losing to Trump has probably also convinced some people within the Democratic Party that a more populist platform would be electorally successful in general-election settings,” he said.



more stupid here:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/04/25/reparations-income-handouts-guaranteed-jobs-dems-tilt-hard-left-with-new-pet-projects.html

tonyz
04-25-2018, 13:41
Because BIG government spending worked so well in...let’s see...Venezuela is the latest failed experiment.

Chucko
04-25-2018, 17:49
Hard to believe the idiocy of some of these loonies. Piggy back to that with wide open borders will allow illegals with the same load of freebies. Build a wall around the lefties right away.

If you don't work you don't eat. How about a little sucking it up and fending for themselves.:rolleyes:

WarriorDiplomat
04-25-2018, 20:29
Hard to believe the idiocy of some of these loonies. Piggy back to that with wide open borders will allow illegals with the same load of freebies. Build a wall around the lefties right away.

If you don't work you don't eat. How about a little sucking it up and fending for themselves.:rolleyes:

Ehhh it will happen sooner or later once the social libs drain the system supporting "free" programs the the producers will restart another society

I too am amazed at the loonies but I also don't give a pass to their idiocy they know it will fail I think they all are OK with this because they are getting theirs in the meantime if it fails later oh well as long as it doesn't happen to them

7624U
04-26-2018, 04:58
Best thing ever in 2016 Finland was leading the way in this.

Now in 2018.

The Finnish government reportedly announced Tuesday that it will end the country’s universal basic income program by year's end -- and appears to be taking on new measures to cut benefits to those who do not actively seek employment.

Finland was considered the first European country to pay a monthly check of $685 to its unemployed between ages 25 and 58. It was considered a pilot program -- serving 2,000 randomly selected jobless people -- that its founders hoped to expand.

“It’s a pity that it will end like this,” Olli Kangas, who oversees the Finnish government agency that focuses on social welfare and helped design the program, told the New York Times.
No-strings-attached income a good idea? Fair and balanced debate about universal basic income on 'Fox & Friends.'

“The government has chosen to try a totally different path,” Kangas said. “Basic income is unconditional. Now, they are pursuing conditionality.”

“The government has chosen to try a totally different path. Basic income is unconditional. Now, they are pursuing conditionality.”
- Olli Kangas, designer of Finland's basic income program

David Whitley summed up Finland's decision in the Orlando Sentinel.

"Proponents said the program wasn’t comprehensive enough to gauge its merits," Whitley wrote. "Critics say it would have required a 30 percent tax increase on an already over-taxed population to be viable."

But some cities, including San Francisco, continue to look into the basic income theory, the Times wrote. Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg in 2017 said that basic income should be explored “to make sure that everyone has a cushion to try new ideas.”

That was essentially Finland’s theory when announcing the pilot program.

The initial move was met with skepticism from citizens who questioned whether an unemployed young person would be motivated to find a job if they were making a steady income, albeit small.

“There is a fear that with basic income they would just stay at home and play computer games,” Heikki Hiilamo, a professor at the University of Helsinki, told the paper.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2018/04/25/finland-to-end-its-universal-basic-income-program-by-years-end.html

JimP
04-26-2018, 05:44
This is why liberalism is nothing more than suicidal ideation. Anyone with half a brain (OK - that cuts out most libs) knows that we're cutting our own throats, but as WD states, they are OK with is so long as they "get theirs." The ruling proletariat couldn't be prouder of their little home-grown Marxists.

I say let's get it on while we can still fight. I'm about getting tired of sitting here and being told I'm the problem with the world. If I was the problem, there'd be a whole bunch like me and the freaking world would damned sure know it by now.

Box
04-26-2018, 06:02
This is why liberalism is nothing more than suicidal ideation. Anyone with half a brain (OK - that cuts out most libs) knows that we're cutting our own throats, but as WD states, they are OK with is so long as they "get theirs." The ruling proletariat couldn't be prouder of their little home-grown Marxists.

I say let's get it on while we can still fight. I'm about getting tired of sitting here and being told I'm the problem with the world. If I was the problem, there'd be a whole bunch like me and the freaking world would damned sure know it by now.


As mentioned in a different thread.... liberalism isn't about creating leaders, it is about creating rulers.

The Obamas, Pelosis, Clintons, and Schumers don't want to lead...
They want to rule.

rainstorm26
04-26-2018, 06:34
It's okay. All of them can go live happily ever after in the new country of California.

Swoop
04-26-2018, 12:35
Just make sure the wall is extended....

PSM
04-26-2018, 13:37
Best thing ever in 2016 Finland was leading the way in this.

Now in 2018.

The Finnish government reportedly announced Tuesday that it will end the country’s universal basic income program by year's end -- and appears to be taking on new measures to cut benefits to those who do not actively seek employment.



Finland just threw a wrench in this guys presidential run in 2020:

Andrew Yang is an entrepreneur and author running for President as a Democrat in 2020. In 2011 he founded Venture for America, a national entrepreneurship fellowship, and spent the last 6 years creating jobs in cities like Cleveland, Detroit, Baltimore, and Pittsburgh. When Andrew realized that new technology like artificial intelligence threatened to eliminate one-third of all American jobs, he knew he had to do something. In The War on Normal People (2018), he explains the mounting crisis and makes the case for implementing a universal basic income: $1,000 a month for every American adult, no strings attached.

https://www.yang2020.com/

tom kelly
04-26-2018, 14:39
Finland just threw a wrench in this guys presidential run in 2020:

Giving every "American" includes illegal aliens who are some kind of "American" South American,Central American, North American, a $1,000 income will in effect just add an additional $1,000 to the price of everything sold -good's and services. So your $1,000 will be neutralized.... Finland need to go to war with someone who will rebuild the country after Finland looses the war. tom kelly

exsquid
04-27-2018, 17:39
Wonder what Larry Thorne would think about today's Finland?

x/S

7624U
04-27-2018, 20:09
Wonder what Larry Thorne would think about today's Finland?

x/S

Stupid Hitler we should have beaten the Russians !