View Full Version : It keeps getting easier to choose - Corporates go Political
Ret10Echo
02-28-2018, 17:36
This latest round of reactions from the shooting in Florida has an ancillary effect of simplifying my life and decision making process.
Was this a horrific act? Yes
Was it preventable? Yes
Choosing the path to politicize your organization and patronize the zealots while running scared from MSM and the rest that look at our U.S. Constitution as an A la Carte menu.
This is a summary of those who have come to me and told me they no longer want my patronage and have gone the extra mile of encouraging me to tell others to not conduct business with them.
So for you:
Corporations that have chosen to remove partnerships from the NRA
Corporations who choose to take uninformed anti-gun stances on social media
Corporate Executives who choose to turn LinkedIn into Fakebook and use their personal accounts (with their corporate title in their profile).
Bye.
Specific examples
Hertz Car Rental
Enterprise Car Rental
National Car Rental
Alamo Car Rental
Dick’s Sporting Goods
Delta Airlines
United Airlines
Avis and Budget
Symantec
TrueCar
MetLife
SimpliSafe
First National Bank of Omaha
Bloomin’ Brands –
Outback Steakhouse
Carrabba's Italian Grill
Bonefish Grill
Fleming's Prime Steakhouse
WalMart
Old Dog New Trick
02-28-2018, 17:43
Dick’s is also Field and Stream. (That was the hypocritical outlet for Dick’s to continue selling ARs after Sandy Hook)
Thanks I’m making my list and checking it twice.
Come Christmas I’ll remember who’s been naughty or nice.
ETA: can add Walmart to the list.
This latest round of reactions from the shooting in Florida has an ancillary effect of simplifying my life and decision making process.
Was this a horrific act? Yes
Was it preventable? Yes
Choosing the path to politicize your organization and patronize the zealots while running scared from MSM and the rest that look at our U.S. Constitution as an A la Carte menu.
This is a summary of those who have come to me and told me they no longer want my patronage and have gone the extra mile of encouraging me to tell others to not conduct business with them.
So for you:
Corporations that have chosen to remove partnerships from the NRA
Corporations who choose to take uninformed anti-gun stances on social media
Corporate Executives who choose to turn LinkedIn into Fakebook and use their personal accounts (with their corporate title in their profile).
Bye.
Specific examples
Hertz Car Rental
Enterprise Car Rental
National Car Rental
Alamo Car Rental
Dick’s Sporting Goods
Delta Airlines
United Airlines
Avis and Budget
Symantec
TrueCar
MetLife
SimpliSafe
First National Bank of Omaha
Bloomin’ Brands –
Outback Steakhouse
Carrabba's Italian Grill
Bonefish Grill
Fleming's Prime Steakhouse
Sir, it looks like you can add Wal-mart to that list. http://money.cnn.com/2018/02/28/news/companies/walmart-guns/index.html
Well, Dick's tells you what they are when you enter, but Walmart?
in most places - dicks has merged into a larger store with field and stream - in those stores, dicks doesnt sell any guns or ammo - field and stream sells all the guns ammo and archery equipment while dicks sells shoes and volleyballs
saying that dicks isnt going to sell that shit anymore fits right into their corporate plan - crossfitters and tennis players can continue to shop at dicks while hunters and fisherman can shop at that evil hillbilly store named field and stream
...I am curious to see if the corporate bosses stop selling guns at field and stream unless their corporate conscience only bothers them at the stores that sell bowling shoes
What is going on with all the rental agencies?
I’d like to see a suit against the Dicks and Walmart in OR and CO citing the bakeries that were compelled to violate their religious beliefs.
Ret10Echo
03-01-2018, 04:38
What is going on with all the rental agencies?
Corporate pulls all their associated brands with them so in reality it is the two parent companies.
Enterprise also owns Alamo and National
Hertz also owns Avis Budget and Payless
TrueCar is also in that pile of steaming.......
Anyone see a corporate statement from either as to the why? Or are they too busy cowering in the corner hoping Antifa doesn't say mean words to them?
Last hard class
03-01-2018, 08:16
I’d like to see a suit against the Dicks and Walmart in OR and CO citing the bakeries that were compelled to violate their religious beliefs.
Not the same thing. You either sell cakes/guns or you don’t. Companies can’t pick and choose who to sell their cakes/guns to based on religious beliefs (Although I can think of one peaceful religion that should be put on the do not sell list). However, it does seem odd that companies are able to discriminate by age limits even when there is currently no law setting said limits.
LHC
Badger52
03-01-2018, 11:04
Fedex' latest blurb about their standing position on these things, updated to dance on the most recent one. (https://about.van.fedex.com/newsroom/fedex-responds-questions-national-rifle-association-gun-safety-policy/)
February 26, 2018 – FedEx Corporation’s positions on the issues of gun policy and safety differ from those of the National Rifle Association (NRA). FedEx opposes assault rifles being in the hands of civilians. While we strongly support the constitutional right of U.S. citizens to own firearms subject to appropriate background checks, FedEx views assault rifles and large capacity magazines as an inherent potential danger to schools, workplaces, and communities when such weapons are misused. We therefore support restricting them to the military. Most important, FedEx believes urgent action is required at the local, state, and Federal level to protect schools and students from incidents such as the horrific tragedy in Florida on February 14th.
FedEx is a common carrier under Federal law and therefore does not and will not deny service or discriminate against any legal entity regardless of their policy positions or political views. The NRA is one of hundreds of organizations in our alliances/association Marketing program whose members receive discounted rates for FedEx shipping. FedEx has never set or changed rates for any of our millions of customers around the world in response to their politics, beliefs or positions on issues. [In other words, we hate you but are happy to take your money.]
Personally, and very unfortunately, this also takes out MidwayUSA for me, who use Fedex a bunch in their shipping. The main gripe I have is that, due to agreement with USPS, they will sometimes just drop it to the local PO for box delivery, when what I paid for was to get it to my door. (Up here, UPS' delivery model literally rocks for 20hrs/day till they leave town from the last delivery with an empty truck.)
But considering Midway's long-standing practice of "round-up" your bill (if you elect to) to donate to the NRA, perhaps Midway should discontinue Fedex as one of their carriers; or at least let them know if it's of concern to you. Seems pretty hypocritical to me.
:munchin
Old Dog New Trick
03-01-2018, 11:57
Can add Kroger which owns Fred Meyer to the list.
However I’m starting to soften a bit. Who really wants someone with no firearms experience or knowledge or even an understanding of the Constitution selling guns to someone just because they have the money and the government can’t find a reason to deny them?
My thought being if (along with my post yesterday somewhere that mentioned “that boy just ain’t right in the head”) a clerk at Dick’s or Fred Meyer working behind the gun counter at this minute might as well be washing the vegetables and restocking cold cereal the next minute.
I’m not saying that a bona fide arms dealer isn’t scrupulous or underhanded to make a sale, but maybe just maybe he has a long history with the community and children or grandchildren in those schools. He’s not going to sell an AR-15 or the accouterments of massive death dealing to a kid or adult who fits the description of “not quite right in the head” I don’t care how green your money is leave my store.
Kroger’s statement in the WSJ article said they want to be responsible arms dealers; I don’t know how they can do that when their business model relies only on the 4473 and whether the government gives a thumbs up or down.
rsdengler
03-01-2018, 12:27
I bought my handgun (and we are buying another one) and ammo at my local gun shop where I took my HQL class, it is more convenient and I know the owner. Plus, I'm always in there looking and playing with handguns, so I would rather give him my business. I do buy ammo at Cabelas, but this shop is about 15 minutes from my house and Cabelas is a few hours away. I have ordered from Midway, but it is not the norm for me. Dick's Sporting Goods, I only buy my Reebok shirts from that store, I have bought safety glasses previously, but I would never buy a weapon from them. All they have behind the counter are young kids with zilch experience and airhead knowledge of firearms, and anything related.
Badger52
03-01-2018, 13:06
I bought my handgun (and we are buying another one) and ammo at my local gun shop where I took my HQL class, it is more convenient and I know the owner. Plus, I'm always in there looking and playing with handguns, so I would rather give him my business.Good for you ma'am! I alternate business local/online, spread it around. There is actually a Hardware Hank 1/2 hr north that has a well-developed sporting/guns department that gets (too) much of my business. They let me have the run of crawling through their basement (like an iceberg, more under than in the store) & have often been able to find some gems, especially ammo in the "buy it cheap, stack it deep" mode. We should probably all take an interest in the local sources, lest one day those "evil internet sellers" be made to go away.
:cool:
Not the same thing. You either sell cakes/guns or you don’t. Companies can’t pick and choose who to sell their cakes/guns to based on religious beliefs (Although I can think of one peaceful religion that should be put on the do not sell list). However, it does seem odd that companies are able to discriminate by age limits even when there is currently no law setting said limits.
LHC
100% in agreement with you: business transactions should be based on business decisions. I think SCOTUS will decide that CUSTOMERS cannot compel sales...get the black robes out from behind the cash register.
I didn’t realize that the activism of the 60’s created the desire to drop the voting age to 18 (26th Amendment), instantly creating a ton more Democrat voters.
Badger52
03-01-2018, 16:18
I didn’t realize that the activism of the 60’s created the desire to drop the voting age to 18 (26th Amendment), instantly creating a ton more Democrat voters.LMAO. About the time of that I'd been to Berlin & back from RVN and would soon be able to vote... :rolleyes:
but couldn't yet legally buy a 6-pack. Now THAT was social injustice.
:mad:
Old Dog New Trick
03-02-2018, 15:31
REI going full retard.
Bike helmets, ski goggles swept up in gun control debate
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Really you can’t make this shit up. The conglomerate that makes water bottles and sporting goods also makes ammunition.
REI going full retard.
Bike helmets, ski goggles swept up in gun control debate
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Really you can’t make this shit up. The conglomerate that makes water bottles and sporting goods also makes ammunition.
Ah, just in time for my annual REI dividend...now...I’ll ask for cash and spend it on ammo instead of REI gear.
ETA: rules re REI dividends — https://www.rei.com/membership/dividend
REI going full retard.
Bike helmets, ski goggles swept up in gun control debate
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Really you can’t make this shit up. The conglomerate that makes water bottles and sporting goods also makes ammunition.
Oh yeah they are a unique bunch......many I know are idealistic trust fund babies. My buddy sell Bell and Giro, and the left wing loons in the cycling/camping/recreational community are boycotting them because their parent company makes ammo and firearms.
Old Dog New Trick
03-02-2018, 19:02
There are certainly enough tree hugging liberals to keep these businesses out of the red but, I’d really like to see the relentless hardship of outdoor loving sporting enthusiasts hunker down and spend their money supporting companies who don’t bow down to the political winds of the day.
I didn’t think I ever would do this again (for same stupid political reasons the NRA/ILA pissed me off during the Clinton years and the AWB) but since Parkland and those misfit cretins took to the streets and town halls I rejoined the NRA and GOA until this battle is won.
When I can, I will consciously make a stand against these politically driven companies, I will take my dollar somewhere else. When queried by a store employee or manager of my satisfaction I will inform them that I am buying from your company because your competition chose poorly and against the Constitution of the United States of America.
REI going full retard.
Bike helmets, ski goggles swept up in gun control debate
(My linky copy function not working)
Really you can’t make this shit up. The conglomerate that makes water bottles and sporting goods also makes ammunition.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/03/02/gun-boycott-rei-mountain-equipment-co-op-stop-selling-major-outdoor-brand-due-to-its-weapons-sales-nra-ties/?utm_term=.4868d991c1ef
TOMAHAWK9521
03-02-2018, 20:31
I actually pulled a short stint (6 months) at REI for something to do and to annoy the tree huggers working there. I really got under the skin of mountain bikers when I educated them that mountain bikers do indeed degrade the soil and are hell on mountain trails, unlike horseback riders and mule packing strings. With a BS in Tree Hugging (Outdoor Rec & Tourism) from CSU under my belt, as well as having worked for a professional hunting outfitter in Colorado, it pissed them off to no end that I was 100% correct.
And the to drive the dagger home, I let them know that I used my REI VISA to buy all my guns and ammo and then used to the dividend to get free stuff in the store. :D
Old Dog New Trick
03-03-2018, 07:57
^^^good stuff TOMAHAWK^^^
Here is another one that will warm a cold morning and cure the blues if only for a short time.
Put morning coffee down before continuing!
https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/969689814491717632?s=21
For those who’s link fu doesn’t go - EPIC FAIL=> Only 13 Delta Passengers Bought Tickets Using NRA Discount That Cost Airline $40 Million Tax Break
Longstreet
03-03-2018, 08:05
Jayson here and I do not see the problem. I think all of the actions by REI and MEC are spot on. Lives always need to come first. But let's not stop just there. Any company that sponsors professional car racing should also be boycotted because as TR stated previously, cars kill way more people than firearms. And speaking of cars, they have been getting ridiculously fast lately. Here in Canada, the speed limit is 100kph, but I keep hearing about cars that can easily do 200kph+ in a matter of seconds. Well that needs to stop because who needs that kind of horsepower? Shrink those motors down baby - especially for motorcycles. Now there is something else that needs to stop if we ever want to save lives. Talk about two wheeled death machines. THey need to be tuned down and even prohibited. Who needs them anyway? Four wheels is much safer. And then there are those head cams (ex. GOPro) the riders wear. I swear they just promote more deviant behaviour which may lead to more deaths. I have seen countless YouTube - shit that should also be banned as it can glamorize antisocial or deviant behaviour so no YouTube for anyone - videos of motorcycle riders swirving in and out of traffic at ridiculous speeds. Down with those cameras! An added benefit to this is that it will help strengthen society as it will stop the amateur porn that is flooding our societies. Let's also ban cellphones for anyone under 18. How many times do we hear about cyberbullying and young people taking their lives because of cellphones? Whoa-whoa-whoa forget the age limit, let's just ban them all together. Studies have been stating for years that distracted driving due to cellphones has caused thousands of accidents each year with many of them being fatal. Cellphones have got to go. But of course if you really want to take a stand for human lives, then let's get to the root of everything. Yeah if we want to respect human life and make a better world for all people. The grand poobah of them all. We need to stop dealing with any companies who produce products offshore in poor third world countries. We all know the atrocities and terrible working conditions that people from these countries have to deal with so they may make pennies (nickles if you are from Canada as we no longer have pennies) per hour with no benefits and conditions we would not even let our pets live in. If items are made in a third world country, they should not be allowed into a first world country . . .
. . . or maybe, just maybe if you are upset about a particular company, you can choose to avoid doing business with that company and boycott the products it sells on your own? You can let companies sell what they want and just choose to avoid such items rather than getting a horde of like minded people and harass companies to bend to your will? There are many companies who I do not like for my own personal reasons. As a result I will not give them any business. I really do not see the reason to stir up the masses. But I digress, that is me. And it is Saturday morning and I need to pull a "Box" and go sit on my front porch and yell at anyone who walks on my lawn (fyi justin troodeau is not my PM either). Good thing mail is not delivered today.
jaYson
Badger52
03-06-2018, 17:13
Someone has filed an age-discrimination suit (https://www.rt.com/usa/420647-walmart-dicks-gun-restriction-lawsuit/) over Dick's & Walmarts soul-searching/conscience-assuaging/blood-dancing decision.
Breakout the :munchin
Combat Diver
03-06-2018, 23:34
Another lawsuit against Dicks this time in Detroit Mi.
http://www.fox2detroit.com/news/local-news/michigan-teen-unable-to-buy-firearm-sues-dicks-for-age-discrimination
Seems that AAFES is pulling magazines over 10 rds off the shelves too. Seems that the store that is supposed to support us isn't. You can be issued 30 rd mags for your M4 but can't be trusted to buy your own.
https://www.carolinafirearmsforum.com/index.php?threads/military-exchange-pulled-10-round-mags.23665/
CD
Seems that AAFES is pulling magazines over 10 rds off the shelves too. Seems that the store that is supposed to support us isn't. You can be issued 30 rd mags for your M4 but can't be trusted to buy your own.
AAFES is no different from the DOD at large - they are afraid of guns. Its a miracle you can even buy a wheel gun inside of a military store.
rsdengler
03-07-2018, 06:56
Ha...they are all going "full retard".....I have decided to buy another pistol, more ammo, targets, from my local gun store, and will join the NRA. Oh, and I just subscribed to Guns & Ammo, and I may subscribe to their other magazine; Handguns.....:munchin
Darn, I am going on vacation in June (Boone NC) and need a damn car rental. I have to research that one.
Ret10Echo
03-07-2018, 11:12
AAFES is no different from the DOD at large - they are afraid of guns. Its a miracle you can even buy a wheel gun inside of a military store.
Yup.. and DeCA still carries Ben & J*@% brand products.... who have made clear their anit-military and anti-LE stance.
Have to love those GO Board members.
Combat Diver
03-08-2018, 23:57
More BS from AAFES.
But AAFES says its decision was about ending a longstanding gap between product lines.
"The Army & Air Force Exchange Service has merchandised high-capacity magazines (sold separately) primarily as a result of vendor recommendations to offer the original equipment typically sold with certain firearms," according to a statement from AAFES.
https://amp.theleafchronicle.com/amp/404829002
Then why not add standard capacity to the MCX stores?
CD
Combat Diver
03-12-2018, 20:07
AAFES flops like the fish it is. Standard capacity magazines will return.
https://www.armytimes.com/pay-benefits/mil-money/2018/03/12/customers-protests-bring-high-capacity-ammo-magazines-back-to-aafes-shelves/
CD
Old Dog New Trick
03-22-2018, 07:44
I think my silent protest to stores that play politics with the Constitution will receive all my receipts from competitive businesses taped or spray glued to their front doors.
Maybe if they see the bottom line of their political posturing they and their stockholders will see the error of their ways.
Field and Stream has also bowed to political activism.
bblhead672
03-22-2018, 12:07
Field and Stream has also bowed to political activism.
Field & Stream owned by the pricks at Dick's.
bblhead672
03-22-2018, 12:09
Citigroup Becomes First Major Bank to Restrict Some Gun Sales (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-22/citigroup-restricts-some-gun-sales-by-its-business-customers)
Old Dog New Trick
03-22-2018, 14:20
Citigroup Becomes First Major Bank to Restrict Some Gun Sales (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-22/citigroup-restricts-some-gun-sales-by-its-business-customers)
BofA did it after Sandy Hook. Have they reversed course since then I didn’t think so.
Know a few guys who canceled their cards/accounts after being denied a legal gun purchase.
bblhead672
03-22-2018, 16:02
Dick's pays the price.
Dick’s Sporting Goods Sales Sink After New Gun Policy (https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/03/dicks-sporting-goods-sales-sink-after-new-gun-policy/)
Ret10Echo
03-31-2018, 11:16
Dick's pays the price.
Dick’s Sporting Goods Sales Sink After New Gun Policy (https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/03/dicks-sporting-goods-sales-sink-after-new-gun-policy/)
"people who don’t shop us anymore for anything,"
-Dick's Sporting Goods CEO Edward Stack
Aaaaahhahahahahahahahahaha
I hope to see their Chapter 11 notice soon.
Team Sergeant
03-31-2018, 11:40
Dick’s Sporting Goods, another left-wing outlet going down in flames. Enjoy your "progressive" fall.
The Dick's Sports in my area carry low end products, the customer service is sub-par and their firearms and ammo selection was a joke. They just cannot compete with Scheels, Cabelas and Bass Pro.
I expect to see them closing some branches in the near future :lifter
TOMAHAWK9521
04-22-2018, 09:52
Well, it seems Yeti just sh*t the bed. On the flip side, maybe this will bring their prices down to a reasonable level.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/04/22/boycottyeti-movement-erupts-cooler-maker-ditches-nra/
sfshooter
04-22-2018, 11:56
Well, it seems Yeti just sh*t the bed. On the flip side, maybe this will bring their prices down to a reasonable level.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/04/22/boycottyeti-movement-erupts-cooler-maker-ditches-nra/
Their replacements are out there. This one is USA made too if I'm not mistaken and you can get it at Wal Mart for 97 bucks:
http://www.lifetime.com/lifetime-90820-55-quart-high-performance-cooler#
Well, it seems Yeti just sh*t the bed. On the flip side, maybe this will bring their prices down to a reasonable level.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/04/22/boycottyeti-movement-erupts-cooler-maker-ditches-nra/
This instantaneous cowering and kneeling leaves little question of the the caliber of people running these companies and organizations.
fuck those overpriced coolers...
I prefer the environmentally unfriendly styrofoam
bblhead672
04-23-2018, 10:19
Well, it seems Yeti just sh*t the bed. On the flip side, maybe this will bring their prices down to a reasonable level.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/04/22/boycottyeti-movement-erupts-cooler-maker-ditches-nra/
I prefer RTIC, also a Texas company. Hopefully Yeti soon goes the way of that mysterious beast who also cannot be found.
RTIC posted a picture of the 2nd Amendment on their Facebook page.
bblhead672
05-02-2018, 09:11
Dick’s Sporting Goods Hired Three Gun Control Lobbyists In April (http://thefederalist.com/2018/05/02/dicks-sporting-goods-hired-four-democrat-gun-control-lobbyists-april-records-show/)
Dick’s Sporting Goods, which announced in February it would no longer sell rifles to anyone under the age of 21, hired three Beltway lobbyists to lobby Congress for gun control, according to federal records reviewed by The Federalist.
The lobbying records show Dick’s hired two Democrats and one Republican from Glover Park Group, a DC-based government affairs firm, for “[l]obbying related to gun control.” No other policy issues were listed in the disclosure form filed by the firm. The disclosure forms show Dick’s pro-gun control lobbying effort began official on April 27, 2018. The official registration form noting Dick’s retention of Glover to push for gun control was filed on Monday morning.
Dick's...they look like penises, just much smaller.
rsdengler
05-02-2018, 09:17
Dick’s Sporting Goods Hired Three Gun Control Lobbyists In April (http://thefederalist.com/2018/05/02/dicks-sporting-goods-hired-four-democrat-gun-control-lobbyists-april-records-show/)
Dick's...they look like penises, just much smaller.
You mean "Eunuchs", or "Introverted Penises"......:D Anyone's pick......
Ret10Echo
05-03-2018, 18:55
Dick’s Sporting Goods Hired Three Gun Control Lobbyists In April (http://thefederalist.com/2018/05/02/dicks-sporting-goods-hired-four-democrat-gun-control-lobbyists-april-records-show/)
Dick's...they look like penises, just much smaller.
And Springfield weighs in... Good for them
Springfield Armory® Severs Ties with Dick’s Sporting Goods
Springfield Armory announces its decision in response to Dick’s Sporting Goods’ attempts to deny Second Amendment freedoms
GENESEO, IL, (05/03/18) – Springfield Armory is severing ties with Dick’s Sporting Goods and its subsidiary, Field & Stream, in response to their hiring a group for anti-Second Amendment lobbying.
Good for Springfield... more manufacturers should pull their shit out of field and stream.
bblhead672
05-09-2018, 13:23
Rumor has it that Ruger, Mossberg and MKS (Hi-Point and Inland Manufacturing) have also said they are terminating sales of their products to Dicks.
Only been able to find official statement from Mossberg so far.
Mossberg's statement:
Mossberg Terminates Relationship with Dick’s Sporting Goods (https://www.mossberg.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Mossberg-Terminates-Relationship-With-Dicks-Sporting-Goods.pdf)