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JJ_BPK
02-07-2018, 07:48
Newly revealed text messages between FBI paramours Peter Strzok and Lisa Page include an exchange about preparing talking points for then-FBI Director James Comey to give to President Obama, who wanted “to know everything we’re doing."

We need a Grand Jury NOW... Additionally, Peter Strzok and Lisa Page need to be put into witness protection.

link to article (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/02/07/more-texts-between-strzok-and-page-uncovered-lead-to-more-questions.html)

Paslode
02-07-2018, 08:00
Something serious needs to happen, things are out of control.

tonyz
02-07-2018, 09:42
Sure looks like some in the FBI and DOJ had an agenda by altering investigative procedures, granting immunity, destroying evidence, lying by omission to a federal judge, playing language games to exonerate, etc., etc.,...what ever happened to the rule of avoiding even the mere appearance of impropriety? Everyone should be concerned about this behavior by our federal law enforcement.

Complete article at link below - one man’s view.

Biased FBI and DOJ Officials Broke The Law And Tried To Decide The Election
Forbes
Thomas Del Beccaro
FEB 5, 2018 @ 11:36 AM
Annotated Timeline

There can be no question, at this point, that certain higher ups in the FBI and the DOJ did not want Hillary to be indicted and did not want Donald Trump to become President. Those efforts were not entirely independent of each other.

Below is a timeline of events – abbreviated though it is – that makes it rather plain that the FBI and DOJ were not investigating potential crimes objectively.

Indeed, they were committing crimes during the process in aid of their preferred outcomes.

<snip>

Annotated Timeline at link below.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasdelbeccaro/2018/02/05/biased-fbi-and-doj-officials-broke-the-law-and-tried-to-decide-the-election-an-annotated-timeline/

cbtengr
02-07-2018, 10:01
Newly revealed text messages between FBI paramours Peter Strzok and Lisa Page include an exchange about preparing talking points for then-FBI Director James Comey to give to President Obama, who wanted “to know everything we’re doing."

We need a Grand Jury NOW... Additionally, Peter Strzok and Lisa Page need to be put into witness protection.

link to article (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/02/07/more-texts-between-strzok-and-page-uncovered-lead-to-more-questions.html)

Agreed but thus far no one has had the balls to take this to the next level. If this is not prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law then we as a nation are doomed.

SouthernDZ
02-07-2018, 10:22
Something serious needs to happen, things are out of control.

Not according to CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, PBS, New York Times, Washington Post...........

Box
02-07-2018, 10:27
I would go as far as to say that a military member, federal law enforcement officer, or intelligence operative dabbling in such subversive politics that would deny or undermine a lawful candidate, president-elect, or elected president from assuming the office, should be tried and punished pursuant to Title 18, Part 1, Chapter 115 of the US Code for crimes of treason, sedition, and subversion.
Such an individual, by the nature of their oath, is owing allegiance to the United States of America and therefore especially despicable for violating said oath and should suffer the maximum penalty...


adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States

having knowledge of the commission of any treason, conceals and does not, as soon as may be, disclose and make known

incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States

conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law

advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government

prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing the United States government

attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government

solicits or accepts financial contributions, loans, or support of any kind, directly or indirectly, from, or is affiliated directly or indirectly with, a foreign government



...not that I expect our elected representative to actually hold their drinking buddies accountable for any such misconduct

bblhead672
02-07-2018, 10:46
I would go as far as to say that a military member, federal law enforcement officer, or intelligence operative dabbling in such subversive politics that would deny or undermine a lawful candidate, president-elect, or elected president from assuming the office, should be tried and punished pursuant to Title 18, Part 1, Chapter 115 of the US Code for crimes of treason, sedition, and subversion.
Such an individual, by the nature of their oath, is owing allegiance to the United States of America and therefore especially despicable for violating said oath and should suffer the maximum penalty...


adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States

having knowledge of the commission of any treason, conceals and does not, as soon as may be, disclose and make known

incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States

conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law

advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government

prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing the United States government

attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government

solicits or accepts financial contributions, loans, or support of any kind, directly or indirectly, from, or is affiliated directly or indirectly with, a foreign government



...not that I expect our elected representative to actually hold their drinking buddies accountable for any such misconduct

So, if none of the elected representatives or those taxpayer funded federal attorneys, judges or law enforcement will hold accountable those who break the laws of the Republic, who will?

The fact that Obama knew about the investigation and lied yet again to the American people is not surprising. A habitual liar is gonna lie.

Banana, meet republic. :mad:

bblhead672
02-07-2018, 11:14
You are racist..... :rolleyes:

Perfect scripted response from the DNC!

rsdengler
02-07-2018, 11:55
Something serious needs to happen, things are out of control.

Let's give them the "bamboo underneath the fingernail" treatment:D

How come I am held accountable for my actions if I F-up either at work, or home life (LOL) and these Government Officials thumb their noses at us and say "Do it, I dare you"? It seems that no one "high" up in government or government entities are called to the curb for their lack of judgement, or their blatant disregard for the law. :munchin

CW3SF
02-07-2018, 12:59
I vote Trey Gowdy for Special Counsel on this investigation.:munchin

ddoering
02-07-2018, 15:46
Newly revealed text messages between FBI paramours Peter Strzok and Lisa Page include an exchange about preparing talking points for then-FBI Director James Comey to give to President Obama, who wanted “to know everything we’re doing."

We need a Grand Jury NOW... Additionally, Peter Strzok and Lisa Page need to be put into Gitmo.

link to article (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/02/07/more-texts-between-strzok-and-page-uncovered-lead-to-more-questions.html)

Fixed that for you.

7624U
02-07-2018, 15:55
Perfect scripted response from the DNC!

Your in the basket of deplorable's for posting on this website.

bblhead672
02-07-2018, 16:15
Your in the basket of deplorable's for posting on this website.

Well, I'm in good company then.

What will it take for a federal prosecutor to have the intestinal fortitude to bring about some indictments of these people?
Where the hell is that guy who was confirmed to be Attorney General?
Oh yeah, he's off chasing pot smokers instead of prosecuting criminals who are attempting to overthrow the Constitutional Republic. :D

Paslode
02-07-2018, 18:16
Not according to CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, PBS, New York Times, Washington Post...........

The same networks that blew off Benghazi, Fast and Furious, the IRS scandal and the Clinton Email Server. The same networks that crucified the recently exonerated Bundy's. They failed their journalistic duties so many time that even if they were telling the truth many would not believe a word of it.

Paslode
02-07-2018, 18:22
I vote Trey Gowdy for Special Counsel on this investigation.:munchin

After his performance in Benghazi I would have reservations about him accomplishing anything other than grandstanding. He talked big, and the results were nil.

Paslode
02-07-2018, 18:31
This guy is now a US Congressman. He would be my pick to lead a congressional hearing on the matter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1lc7i7BaG8


Clay may have more common sense than the Congress Critters could handle.

PSM
02-07-2018, 18:36
After his performance in Benghazi I would have reservations about him accomplishing anything other than grandstanding. He talked big, and the results were nil.

I agree. He set himself up to be a hero then slinked away. I was really disappointed.
But, of course, that's my selected mode when it comes the Repubics.

Paslode
02-07-2018, 20:56
Issa is another who's investigations seems to have a lot of bark, but turned into Kabuki theatre.

Nunes appears to have grabbed the bull by the horns and intends to ride the bull....but time will tell. Even if Nunes rides it out I am not sure Session's or Republicans have the stones to prosecute perps to the fullest extent of the Law.

PSM
02-07-2018, 21:20
Issa is another who's investigations seems to have a lot of bark, but turned into Kabuki theatre.

Nunes appears to have grabbed the bull by the horns and intends to ride the bull....but time will tell. Even if Nunes rides it out I am not sure Session's or Republicans have the stones to prosecute perps to the fullest extent of the Law.

Agreed, again. These charging bulls keep running into the picadores and stagger, uselessly, out of the ring.

Pat

sfshooter
02-07-2018, 22:00
Well, I'm in good company then.

What will it take for a federal prosecutor to have the intestinal fortitude to bring about some indictments of these people?
Where the hell is that guy who was confirmed to be Attorney General?
Oh yeah, he's off chasing pot smokers instead of prosecuting criminals who are attempting to overthrow the Constitutional Republic. :D


Ah, the great Jeff Sessions, all the accolades and endearments for such a fearless prosecutor....a man who can do no wrong and will be the strongest attorney general ever......hmmmm....what happened to him?
Me thinks he is no different than all his swamp buddies.......the gang bangers, meth heads, and opiod fanatics don't raise that much stink in society so it must be safe to go after them and not after corrupt government agencies and their treasonous employees which would cause great flak from the media and the lefties.
Lets take the path well traveled....sooo much easier!

CloseDanger
02-07-2018, 22:34
Here is the Grassley memo (https://twt-media.washtimes.com/media/misc/2018/02/06/Grassley_referral_new.pdf).

It is fishing with grenades.

Box
02-08-2018, 06:37
Gowdy currently Chairs the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee. He is one of the few Chairs that can issue subpoenas unilaterally.
...but he doesn't
...and he sides with the FBI
...and he has said that the Mueller review should continue because, blah blah


He also said in an interview that he was a good prosecutor, lousy politician.
I believe him

Paslode
02-08-2018, 07:26
Ah, the great Jeff Sessions, all the accolades and endearments for such a fearless prosecutor....a man who can do no wrong and will be the strongest attorney general ever......hmmmm....what happened to him?
Me thinks he is no different than all his swamp buddies.......the gang bangers, meth heads, and opiod fanatics don't raise that much stink in society so it must be safe to go after them and not after corrupt government agencies and their treasonous employees which would cause great flak from the media and the lefties.
Lets take the path well traveled....sooo much easier!

I keep hoping that Sessions is merely hiding in plain sight waiting to strike and not sleeping at the wheel or part of the problem.

That's what what I hope, what I think is that Session is an obstacle meant to slow down progress and drag out the bogus Russian/Trump investigation. To date his only notable accomplishment was keeping pot illegal.....which is a waste of f-ing time, resources and tax dollars.


Here is another log on Jeff Van Session's fires....his good buddy Rosenstein is involved as well.


FBI Informant Testifies: Moscow Routed Millions To Clinton Foundation In "Russian Uranium Dominance Strategy

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-08/fbi-informant-testifies-moscow-routed-millions-clinton-foundation-russian-uranium

Paslode
02-08-2018, 07:49
Gowdy currently Chairs the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee. He is one of the few Chairs that can issue subpoenas unilaterally.
...but he doesn't
...and he sides with the FBI
...and he has said that the Mueller review should continue because, blah blah


He also said in an interview that he was a good prosecutor, lousy politician.
I believe him


Once Gowdy leaves DC I fully expect to see him offering legal services for DUI and Traffic violations, or possible personal injury claims.

Call NOW!

bblhead672
02-08-2018, 07:54
I look at all this and wonder if the D's & R's along with all the creatures of the DC swamp are doing this just daring "we the people" to do anything about it.

EricV
02-08-2018, 08:52
I believe part of the problem is that lots of these Pols have something to hide in their back ground. Could be why Gowdy is bailing out. The NSA collects everybody's stuff. I read years ago that it only costs the NSA $100 to store all your phone calls and emails over your lifetime. There's that big facility out in Utah.

Adm. Rogers went into Trump Tower to see Trump. May be he was carrying all the goodies and it's just being let out bit by bit. Could give Dems fits for the mid terms.

"Slowly I turned, step by step, inch by inch..."

TOMAHAWK9521
02-08-2018, 10:21
I believe part of the problem is that lots of these Pols have something to hide in their back ground. Could be why Gowdy is bailing out. The NSA collects everybody's stuff. I read years ago that it only costs the NSA $100 to store all your phone calls and emails over your lifetime. There's that big facility out in Utah.

Adm. Rogers went into Trump Tower to see Trump. May be he was carrying all the goodies and it's just being let out bit by bit. Could give Dems fits for the mid terms.

"Slowly I turned, step by step, inch by inch..."

"NIAGARA FALLS!!!" :eek:

Box
02-08-2018, 11:21
I look at all this and wonder if the D's & R's along with all the creatures of the DC swamp are doing this just daring "we the people" to do anything about it.

In Goodfellas, Ray Liotta talks about mob protection -
"Business bad? Fuck you, pay me. Oh, you had a fire? Fuck you, pay me. Place got hit by lightning, huh? Fuck you, pay me."

Well it isn't any different from the crooks in DC legislating laws that they don't have to follow - collecting OUR tax money so they can use it as entitlement bribes for their voters or to pay off sexual harassment claims - it doesn't matter that you are paying too much in taxes for benefits you cant enjoy or to right someone elses wrongs - just pay your taxes - " Fuck you, pay me"

EricV
02-08-2018, 13:03
"NIAGARA FALLS!!!" :eek:

Yeah, for those who've never seen it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYP1OBZfFK0


Interesting article on "spying."

When the World Wears a Wire

https://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/world-wears-wire/

lindy
02-08-2018, 14:04
NSA collects everybody's stuff. I read years ago that it only costs the NSA $100 to store all your phone calls and emails over your lifetime. There's that big facility out in Utah.

How many data centers does Google have? Yahoo? How about Verizon or AT&T?

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02-08-2018, 14:33
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