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tonyz
02-06-2018, 08:25
Complete article at link below.

“One internet privacy expert warns: “What China is doing here is selectively breeding its population to select against the trait of critical, independent thinking.”

China’s Surveillance State Should Scare Everyone
Defense One
BY ANNA MITCHELL
STUDENT AND RESEARCHER AT STANFORD UNIVERSITY,
THE ATLANTIC

LARRY DIAMOND
THE ATLANTIC
FEBRUARY 5, 2018

The country is perfecting a vast network of digital espionage as a means of social control—with implications for democracies worldwide.

Imagine a society in which you are rated by the government on your trustworthiness. Your “citizen score” follows you wherever you go. A high score allows you access to faster internet service or a fast-tracked visa to Europe. If you make political posts online without a permit, or question or contradict the government’s official narrative on current events, however, your score decreases. To calculate the score, private companies working with your government constantly trawl through vast amounts of your social media and online shopping data.

When you step outside your door, your actions in the physical world are also swept into the dragnet: The government gathers an enormous collection of information through the video cameras placed on your street and all over your city. If you commit a crime—or simply jaywalk—facial recognition algorithms will match video footage of your face to your photo in a national ID database. It won’t be long before the police show up at your door.

This society may seem dystopian, but it isn’t farfetched: It may be China in a few years. The country is racing to become the first to implement a pervasive system of algorithmic surveillance. Harnessing advances in artificial intelligence and data mining and storage to construct detailed profiles on all citizens, China’s communist party-state is developing a “citizen score” to incentivize “good” behavior. A vast accompanying network of surveillance cameras will constantly monitor citizens’ movements, purportedly to reduce crime and terrorism. While the expanding Orwellian eye may improve “public safety,” it poses a chilling new threat to civil liberties in a country that already has one of the most oppressive and controlling governments in the world.

China’s evolving algorithmic surveillance system will rely on the security organs of the communist party-state to filter, collect, and analyze staggering volumes of data flowing across the internet. Justifying controls in the name of national security and social stability, China originally planned to develop what it called a “Golden Shield” surveillance system allowing easy access to local, national, and regional records on each citizen. This ambitious project has so far been mostly confined to a content-filtering Great Firewall, which prohibits foreign internet sites including Google, Facebook, and The New York Times. According to Freedom House, China’s level of internet freedom is already the worst on the planet. Now, the Communist Party of China is finally building the extensive, multilevel data-gathering system it has dreamed of for decades.

While the Chinese government has long scrutinized individual citizens for evidence of disloyalty to the regime, only now is it beginning to develop comprehensive, constantly updated, and granular records on each citizen’s political persuasions, comments, associations, and even consumer habits. The new social credit system under development will consolidate reams of records from private companies and government bureaucracies into a single “citizen score” for each Chinese citizen. In its comprehensive 2014 planning outline, the CCP explains a goal of “keep[ing] trust and constraints against breaking trust.” While the system is voluntary for now, it will be mandatory by 2020. Already, 100,000 Chinese citizens have posted on social media about high scores on a “Sesame Credit” app operated by Alibaba, in a private-sector precursor to the proposed government system. The massive e-commerce conglomerate claims its app is only tracking users’ financial and credit behavior, but promises to offer a “holistic rating of character.” It is not hard to imagine many Chinese boasting soon about their official scores.

While it isn’t yet clear what data will be considered, commentators are already speculating that the scope of the system will be alarmingly wide. The planned “citizen credit” score will likely weigh far more data than the Western fico score, which helps lenders make fast and reliable decisions on whether to extend financial credit. While the latter simply tracks whether you’ve paid back your debts and managed your money well, experts on China and internet privacy have speculated—based on the vast amounts of online shopping data mined by the government without regard for consumer privacy—that your Chinese credit score could be higher if you buy items the regime likes—like diapers—and lower if you buy ones it doesn’t, like video games or alcohol. Well beyond the realm of online consumer purchasing, your political involvement could also heavily affect your score: Posting political opinions without prior permission or even posting true news that the Chinese government dislikes could decrease your rank.

Even more worrying is that the government will be technically capable of considering the behavior of a Chinese citizen’s friends and family in determining his or her score. For example, it is possible that your friend’s anti-government political post could lower your own score. Thus, the scoring system would isolate dissidents from their friends and the rest of society, rendering them complete pariahs. Your score might even determine your access to certain privileges taken for granted in the U.S., such as a visa to travel abroad or or even the right to travel by train or plane within the country. One internet privacy expert warns: “What China is doing here is selectively breeding its population to select against the trait of critical, independent thinking.”

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http://www.defenseone.com/technology/2018/02/chinas-surveillance-state-should-scare-everyone/145718/?oref=defenseone_today_nl

Box
02-06-2018, 10:39
A third term would have seen sotero doing the same thing to americans - the same goes for a Hillary Clinton presidency
...because, hate-crimes are bad

tonyz
02-06-2018, 11:16
Surveillance is one thing...

However the mass storage of personal data including the monitoring of the behavior of your friends, acquaintances and family being used to determine your “score...”

Knowing that your friends, or family’s political activities or postings could influence your “score” — well as the article suggests such a scoring system would tend to...“isolate certain folks from their friends and the rest of society, rendering them complete pariahs.”

Deplorables anyone?

...how many fingers ?

ETA: Merriam-Webster definition of deplorable:

1 : deserving censure or contempt : wretched

JJ_BPK
02-06-2018, 11:29
奥威尔的1984年

They have read Orwell and follow directions.


https://ibisbill.wordpress.com/2014/01/02/nineteen-eighty-four-in-chinese/

tonyz
02-06-2018, 12:01
Again nothing new. SOP for dictators.

What might be relatively new is the ease of mass collection and storage of all personal proclivities in this hyper-political environment.

Comprehensive, constantly updated and granular in detail.

...getting all private medical records will be another game changer.

miclo18d
02-06-2018, 16:10
If i'm a lowly rice farmer or Apple iPhone slave laborer in the slum regions of China, WTF do I care if my neighbor wrote that "President Xi Jinping has big nose on face!"

What? Are they going to bend my dogtags, shave my head, and throw me out of an airplane? Well on second thought, they may not give me a parachute! "Bàoqiàn Mr. Jingping, my neighbor Zhang Wei, is an ass head!"

tonyz
02-06-2018, 16:30
Get your mind right !!

The expanding Survellience State with no moral limits is good !!

Or, the clip below will be looped via implant into your head...forever !!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=orYcAiFqknU

TOMAHAWK9521
02-06-2018, 16:41
I recently heard a commentary on a local am radio travel show about not needing your passport or photo ID to board aircraft in the near future because airports/airlines are or will be trying out facial recognition equipment/software for all passengers. I believe they said JetBlue was one airline. I'm not sure which airports were looking to implement this.

Of course, the sheep were calling this an advance in convenience while I see it as an advance into communism.

And long before all of this you had Bloomberg having cameras mounted all over NYC because he didn't think people should have the right to move around "his city" undetected or anonymously.

PedOncoDoc
02-06-2018, 16:51
I recently heard a commentary on a local am radio travel show about not needing your passport or photo ID to board aircraft in the near future because airports/airlines are or will be trying out facial recognition equipment/software for all passengers. I believe they said JetBlue was one airline. I'm not sure which airports were looking to implement this.

Of course, the sheep were calling this an advance in convenience while I see it as an advance into communism.

And long before all of this you had Bloomberg having cameras mounted all over NYC because he didn't think people should have the right to move around "his city" undetected or anonymously.

This will be embraced by the left until the first "celebrity" is turned away because of recent plastic surgery - they will then sue for the shame/pain they felt from being exposed for having plastic surgery and for the wages lost from whatever PR appearance they missed due to missing the flight.

Team Sergeant
02-06-2018, 16:58
I recently heard a commentary on a local am radio travel show about not needing your passport or photo ID to board aircraft in the near future because airports/airlines are or will be trying out facial recognition equipment/software for all passengers. I believe they said JetBlue was one airline. I'm not sure which airports were looking to implement this.



Can't wait until the communist/socialists link this with small weaponized drones. :munchin

commies have probably done this, kalif socialists are asking for the instruction book.

TOMAHAWK9521
02-06-2018, 23:29
Wonder what they would say if we used the same technology for voter ID? :munchin

That was my thought as I listened to the radio broadcast. "You racist bastards!!!":eek::eek: "VOTER INTIMIDATION!!":eek:

(1VB)compforce
02-07-2018, 04:51
I recently heard a commentary on a local am radio travel show about not needing your passport or photo ID to board aircraft in the near future because airports/airlines are or will be trying out facial recognition equipment/software for all passengers. I believe they said JetBlue was one airline. I'm not sure which airports were looking to implement this.

Of course, the sheep were calling this an advance in convenience while I see it as an advance into communism.

And long before all of this you had Bloomberg having cameras mounted all over NYC because he didn't think people should have the right to move around "his city" undetected or anonymously.

We are already going down that slope...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jonmarkman/2016/09/06/google-takes-big-data-to-smart-cities/#624f02b9730a

rsdengler
02-07-2018, 05:30
This will be embraced by the left until the first "celebrity" is turned away because of recent plastic surgery - they will then sue for the shame/pain they felt from being exposed for having plastic surgery and for the wages lost from whatever PR appearance they missed due to missing the flight.


LOL...I was thinking the same thing. I guess that means Kathy Griffin will never be allowed to board a flight again....Ha.....:D

tonyz
12-10-2019, 20:15
A control mechanism that only a totalitarian could love - ominous.

Complete article at link - excerpt below.

'Social credit score': China set to roll out 'Orwellian' mass surveillance tool

By Bill Gertz - The Washington Times - Monday, December 9, 2019

China is developing a new high-tech system of mass surveillance and coercion aimed suppressing political dissent among its 1.4 billion people, while forcing American and Western businesses to conform to the government’s communist policies if they want to operate there.

The system that critics call an Orwellian national-level control system has been dubbed the Social Credit System (SCS) and was set for launch in the coming year, although recent reports from China now say the rollout could be delayed until 2021.

The massive system has been tested in several major Chinese cities and uses millions of surveillance cameras linked to supercomputers containing massive databases. Face and voice recognition technology then identifies and monitors people with the goal of controlling behaviors that range from dissident political activity to jaywalking, ostensibly as part of a financial credit monitoring system similar to those used in the West.

Vice President Mike Pence called out the program in a recent speech, warning that China’s surveillance state is “growing more expansive and intrusive — often with the help of U.S. technology.”

“By 2020, China’s rulers aim to implement an Orwellian system premised on controlling virtually every facet of human life — the so-called social credit score,” Mr. Pence said. “In the words of that program’s official blueprint, it will ‘allow the trustworthy to roam everywhere under heaven, while making it hard for the discredited to take a single step.’”

Facial recognition tools are widely used now in China bolstered by cameras deployed along streets, on buildings, in train stations, in classrooms and subway lines. With the emergence of next-generation 5G telecommunications technology, the reach of the surveillance networks is only expected to increase.

As part of the stepped-up surveillance, the Chinese governmentannounced this month that all who purchase SIM cards for mobile phones must first produce a facial recognition print.

Pilot projects for the SCS have been under way for the past several years around China.

The system has its kinks. A Western corporate executive leaving Chinafaced a fine after an SCS search claimed she ran a traffic light and failed to pay the fine. A diplomatic source familiar with incident said the executive’s only crime was that her face appeared in a photograph that was part of bus advertisement and was captured by a surveillance camera when the bus ran the light.

A gray market in China has started for people with bad social credit who can boost their scores by buying points online. China’s Alibaba online retailer has listed available social credit from people in rural areas.

One Chinese national in the country who declined to be identified by name said those who fail the social credit system are called “laolai” — roughly translated as serial scoundrel or rascal.

“It is quite an insulting term,” the person said. “In a totalitarian state, everyone is expected or forced to be a small, useful cog of the society. It happened now and then in the human history and it is happening now.”

Another Chinese citizen said social media discussion of the SCS is being heavily censored.

“Basically, as far as I know, the system connects everything and perhaps controls everything,” this person said. “For example, all my bank cards and payment accounts, my WeChat and other social media accounts, the accounts to buy train and air tickets, my phone number, and even my face ID, are connected to my identity card in China.”

The official government website, creditchina.gov.cn, described the social credit system only as “an important part of the socialist market economic system and social governance system.”

Outside China, the international variant is known as the “corporate social credit system” and is already been used by Beijing to coerce foreign businesses that fail to toe China’s political line on issues such as Taiwan, Hong Kong and Tibet.

Paying the price

The official National Public Credit Information Center, reported last year that a total of 23 million people were “discredited” and barred from traveling by air or rail. Another 17.5 million Chinese could not purchase airline tickets, while 5.5 million were barred from buying high-speed train tickets — all due to poor social credit scores.

Among those caught up in the SCS was Chinese actress Michelle Ye Xuan. She was unable to board a flight last March after information about a recent court case popped up on a computer screen at an airport checkpoint. She was found guilty of defaming her boyfriend’s ex-lover and failed to apologize. The ban was lifted after she apologized.

Beijing euphemistically calls the program part of “social management” — a key element of communist ideology to shape and control society.

In reality, critics say, the system is designed to preserve the power of the Communist Party of China, blacklisting and punishing anyone who is spotted by the system engaging in any unapproved activities. It’s marks a high-tech upgrade of traditional measures of control.

In the past, the party relied on a system called “dongan” or personal file — millions of dossiers on citizens filled with personal information ranging from comments made in high school to remarks made to coworkers.

The SCS is expected to take the dongan system to new levels of surveillance by the use of use of advanced technology.

“At its core, the system is a tool to control individuals,’ companies’ and other entities’ behavior to conform with the policies, directions and will of the [Communist Party of China],” said Samantha Hoffman, a Chinaspecialist with the Australian Strategic Policy Institute in Canberra. “It combines big-data analytic techniques with pervasive data collection to achieve that purpose.”

The heart of the SCS is the more than 200 million video cameras that line streets and alleys, all networked to vast stores of personal data sifted by increasingly advanced data mining software. China plans to have as many as 626 million cameras deployed by next year.

Low credit scores — whether due to political activity, financial impropriety or even minor offensives like smoking on a train — employment, can result in schooling and travel being blocked or restricted.

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https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/dec/9/social-credit-system-china-mass-surveillance-tool-/

Uman
12-15-2019, 22:37
Please take this in a Cold Bore Shot style.

Please complete all sections.
https://uscitizenshipsupport.com/us-citizenship-test-civics-test/

HardRoad
12-16-2019, 12:33
Maybe we should be hacking the Social Credit Score system to identify networks of potential guerrilla, underground, and auxiliary leaders and members.

Such a widely distributed system has to have a lot of security flaws, and just the idea we might turn the system against them would have to scare the bejeezus out of the Chicoms.

mcarey
12-16-2019, 16:11
Please take this in a Cold Bore Shot style.

Please complete all sections.
https://uscitizenshipsupport.com/us-citizenship-test-civics-test/

I missed 1 question! out of all the tests. I guess I was decently educated. :eek: