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There is apparently more to what happened in Charlottesville, VA on Aug. 12, 2017 than what is (and has been) being reported by the enemedia. Whether you agree with their message or not, "Unite the Right" paid for, and was given, a permit for their rally. (True. The politicians apparently later thought better of it, and rescinded the permit. For which "Unite the Right" sued - and won - the right to hold their rally.)
The following is from someone who was there; and attests that violence did NOT need to happen and could have been prevented -- but wasn't. Rather eye-opening; and, if true, should be the reason that the DOJ really DOES investigate what happened.
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2017/08/14/pax-dickinson-virginia-state-police-had-explicit-orders-to-drive-unite-the-right-into-the-antifa-so-wed-be-assaulted/
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What I heard from a family member who's child attended college in Charlottesville is that the Police and the National Guard who were on site, they made no effort to cordon off the groups prior to the hostilities, and once the hostilities began they stood around and watched. Students have video of this.
Badger52
08-16-2017, 06:00
Reports I have seen from folks on-ground are that decision by Commie Tool Governor Terry "freaking-out-'cause-they-got-their-permit-restored" McAuliffe to declare state of emergency led to city gov't (and salute-smartly PD) channeling UtR attendees back out into the gauntlet of Antifa/BLM for a second time. If true, IMO they are guilty of failing to protect 1st Amendment rights and completely complicit in the resulting violence.
Reports I have seen from folks on-ground are that decision by Commie Tool Governor Terry "freaking-out-'cause-they-got-their-permit-restored" McAuliffe to declare state of emergency led to city gov't (and salute-smartly PD) channeling UtR attendees back out into the gauntlet of Antifa/BLM for a second time. If true, IMO they are guilty of failing to protect 1st Amendment rights and completely complicit in the resulting violence.
It's all part of a plan, with all the surveillance we have in this country TPTB had some prior knowledge about who was going to show up........even if they didn't common sense says their will be counter protests. AntiFa and the Nazi's did not just decide on a moments notice to show up and bring all their party favors.
If you look at the headlines on Drudge you can see the plan is working and the American Taliban (now aligned with CAIR) won't stop with Confederate memorials.
If true, IMO they are guilty of failing to protect 1st Amendment rights and completely complicit in the resulting violence.
Until the media and leftists take over, the "alt right" have equal protections of freedom of speech and assembly. When opposition groups use violence to infringe on those rights, their civil rights are violated. IMO, because no elected prosecutor would ever take on such a case, the government (by inaction) is in fact abridging speech.
Strange that the media is laser focused on POTUS's statements vice the views of the alt right.
Comparing Antifa to Mr. Fields’s act is like “comparing a propeller plane to a C-130 transport,”
said Brian Levin, the director of the Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism at
California State University, San Bernardino.
Yeah, that's a quote.
And I always thought C-130's were propeller airplanes.
I guess I'm just not as smart as a Director of a Center at California State University.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/15/us/politics/trump-alt-left-fact-check.html
bblhead672
08-16-2017, 09:18
Hillary Clinton Sent $800K from Campaign Funds to Her New ‘Resistance’ Group (http://freebeacon.com/issues/hillary-clinton-sent-800k-from-campaign-funds-to-her-new-resistance-group/)
Seems like every day the leftists/communists/globalists get more bold in removing their masks to reveal who they truly are and what they intend to do.
The questions remain: Is 50+% of Americans ready to see the end of this country as it was founded? If so, is that 50+% of Americans ready to kill, imprison, starve or otherwise bludgeon the other half into submission?
The questions remain: Is 50+% of Americans ready to see the end of this country as it was founded? If so, is that 50+% of Americans ready to kill, imprison, starve or otherwise bludgeon the other half into submission?
When push comes to shove more than 50% will be acquiesced to their own demise......it will take far less than 50% to kill, imprison, stave, etc the majority into submission.
Old Dog New Trick
08-16-2017, 11:27
I just keep hoping the open warfare and hostilities will begin soon. I'm not getting any younger. Maybe Hillary should have won, then the media could be focused on the real issues affecting the country, like, Russian aggressions in Ukraine, North Korea threats to peace, ISIS, and the police brutality against blacks and undocumented immigrants. (Oh wait that's all Trumps fault.)
Remember, only one side is to blame. If you support President Trump you are the problem. We have a name for you...__________________(fill in derogatory title: racist, fascist, supremacist, patriot, white, homophobe, xenophobe, rich, 1%er, 3%er, etc.) (if your title is not here the media will be all to happy to come up with a new term shortly to put you in the right (alt-right) group soon)
bblhead672
08-16-2017, 11:31
Pastor Wants Presidents’ Names Removed From Washington, Jackson Parks Over Ties To Slavery (http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2017/08/16/jackson-washington-park-protest-presidents-slave-owners)
Were the Confederate battle flag and the Confederate monuments just a run up to the real end game?
Old Dog New Trick
08-16-2017, 11:40
We need to start burning our money soon to show solidarity with our countrymen. All those slave owners who adorn our currency should be abolished as with the documents that give people the rights to live as they want without government intervention and oversight. Stop burning flags, burn a bill, $20 should be popular right about now.
Pastor Wants Presidents’ Names Removed From Washington, Jackson Parks Over Ties To Slavery (http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2017/08/16/jackson-washington-park-protest-presidents-slave-owners)
Were the Confederate battle flag and the Confederate monuments just a run up to the real end game?
The end game for these folks is to marginalize white males, confiscate all their shit and ultimately to erase the evil white man from the face of the earth so these folks can live in whatever utopia they are dreaming.....like in South Africa or Zimbabwe.
We need to start burning our money soon to show solidarity with our countrymen. All those slave owners who adorn our currency should be abolished as with the documents that give people the rights to live as they want without government intervention and oversight. Stop burning flags, burn a bill, $20 should be popular right about now.
We should replace Jackson with TuPac, Snoop Dog or King Shabazz.
bblhead672
08-16-2017, 12:30
We need to start burning our money soon to show solidarity with our countrymen. All those slave owners who adorn our currency should be abolished as with the documents that give people the rights to live as they want without government intervention and oversight. Stop burning flags, burn a bill, $20 should be popular right about now.
Great idea! I shall open a central destruction depository in my back yard, everyone send me their money with dead racist presidents and I will dispose of appropriately. :D
We need to start burning our money soon to show solidarity with our countrymen. All those slave owners who adorn our currency should be abolished as with the documents that give people the rights to live as they want without government intervention and oversight. Stop burning flags, burn a bill, $20 should be popular right about now.
We should replace Jackson with TuPac, Snoop Dog or King Shabazz.
spottedmedic111
08-16-2017, 13:53
Politicians pander...period
Airbornelawyer
08-16-2017, 13:57
The end game for these folks is to marginalize white males, confiscate all their shit and ultimately to erase the evil white man from the face of the earth so these folks can live in whatever utopia they are dreaming.....like in South Africa or Zimbabwe.
There is no end game. Every time society acquiesces to their demands, they move the goalposts. Maintaining the outrage is the game, and there is no end.
bblhead672
08-16-2017, 14:01
The end game for these folks is to marginalize white males, confiscate all their shit and ultimately to erase the evil white man from the face of the earth so these folks can live in whatever utopia they are dreaming.....like in South Africa or Zimbabwe.
Wonder how they're gonna like it when the white people are eradicated and they are forced to work for what the white people once provided with the taxes they paid?
SouthernDZ
08-16-2017, 14:27
For the life of me I still cannot understand how we avoided destroying ourselves back in the 1960s; many on this forum are likely seeing all this as very familiar.
I don't think we'll be so fortunate this time around and I don't think it's hyperbole to say there's a distinct possibility a "not-so-civil" war is coming. I think I'll drift down to the piggly-wiggly for some canned goods....
Mustang Man
08-16-2017, 14:52
We're now past the point of no return.
Nothing can be done to unite the country. Just look at what happened when Trump called out violent protesters as well.
There is no end game. Every time society acquiesces to their demands, they move the goalposts. Maintaining the outrage is the game, and there is no end.
That is a very good point and interesting one at that.
We're now past the point of no return.
Nothing can be done to unite country. Just look at what happened when Trump called out violent protesters as well.
Not only that, there are just too many self interested people and groups undermining the foundation of the country, who at present they are playing the enemy of my enemy is my friend game and Trump is the target.
Wonder how they're gonna like it when the white people are eradicated and they are forced to work for what the white people once provided with the taxes they paid?
Most don't think that far ahead, they are just caught up n the moment. Many of their handlers know, but most of these people would be back in the same shape or worse..........to quote the Dead Kennedy's Riot:
Tomorrow your homeless.
Tonight it's a blast.
Old Dog New Trick
08-16-2017, 15:52
There is no end game. Every time society acquiesces to their demands, they move the goalposts. Maintaining the outrage is the game, and there is no end.
There is an end game. We just haven't reached the point for an all-in-or-nothing winning score. They will move the goalposts until no one is left with a desire or propensity to challenge the victor.
History will show that oppressive, totalitarian regimes have all failed in the face of individual freedom and independence from government power and control. Our forefathers understood this to the point of war, and the pioneers that traveled west understood this to the point of wars. Those of us who have sacrificed to protect freedom understand that there is a point that once crossed there is no turning back only violence, victory and loss to be shared by all.
The violent leftists will cower and run away to their safe space when faced with resistance. They have and enjoy being protected by a pusified police. But the police will have to decide which side of history do they want to be on when the shooting starts.
Old Dog New Trick
08-16-2017, 16:27
All great wars and battles there in have been named after the places they started in or ended in, or changed the course for better or worse. From Thermopylae to Waterloo, Bunker Hill to Yorktown and Fort Sumter to Gettysburg and so many before and after
Charlottesville will not end at Appomattox this time and it will not start there either. But I fear it will start with another assassination and the temporary celebration by the side responsible will be met with a call to action by the other side. Once the shooting starts the end is near.
There is no end game. Every time society acquiesces to their demands, they move the goalposts. Maintaining the outrage is the game, and there is no end.
There is an end....it is the destruction of western civilization. These are just the baby steps toward it. And POTUS was right.....they will demand that GW and TJ go next. Then Abraham Lincoln and then whatever else they deem worthy of destruction until there are no more western values
https://pjmedia.com/video/tucker-carlson-left-wants-tear-american-institutions/
and
https://amgreatness.com/2017/08/15/leftist-revolutions-no-limits/
From Thomas Lifson:
"I agree with Tucker Carlson, that the Civil War-Slavery Memory Hole is merely a pretext for a much bigger and more sinister goal. The endgame is to delegitimize the Constitutional Republic. A majority of the signers of the Declaration of Independence were slaveholders. The Constitution was drafted by James Madison, a slave-owner. If these figures are now beyond the pale (or will be soon), then logically, there is no reason to cling to the Bill of Rights or the Electoral College or any of the other instruments of an illegitimate racist regime."
"The goal is tyranny, not the "mere" erasure of history. Mao tried it in the Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution, and Pol Pot tried it in Cambodia, at a staggering cost in human lives and actual societal and intellectual regression. The goal was the power to reshape human nature and bring about paradise on Earth. What are a few lives worth compared to that transcendent goal?" - Rick Moran, American Thinker
rsdengler
08-17-2017, 06:46
We should replace Jackson with TuPac, Snoop Dog or King Shabazz.
LOL...You forgot Al Sharpton and you might as well throw in Oprah to be fair to African American Women......:D
I just want to tell them to "Go F Themselves", you cannot erase everything we stand for or our entire history just to suit their politically correct agenda.
Sooner or later it will come back to bit them in their "PC Asses"....consequences for their stupidity and ignorance can be a bitch....:munchin
bblhead672
08-17-2017, 07:57
"The goal is tyranny, not the "mere" erasure of history. Mao tried it in the Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution, and Pol Pot tried it in Cambodia, at a staggering cost in human lives and actual societal and intellectual regression. The goal was the power to reshape human nature and bring about paradise on Earth. What are a few lives worth compared to that transcendent goal?" - Rick Moran, American Thinker
Spot on.
I like this recent quote from John Mosby's Mountain Guerilla Blog FB page:
The enemy of my enemy is not my friend. My friends are my friends. The enemy of my enemy may not even be a worthwhile ally.
Apparently Jason Kessler, onr of the organizers and a "white supremacist" used to be an Obama supporter and participated in the Occupy movement.
Team Sergeant
08-17-2017, 10:27
antifa vs. the white supremacists, I think its great. Two groups of idiots hell bent on destroying each other.
Thinking America is about to "fall" because a few thousand idiots are fighting, not going to happen.
We've had the kkk around for centuries and they were put in their place decades ago. antifa is the new kid on the block and it wants the same attention as the kkk, well they now have it.
Please feel free to kill each other. I'll be fishing. :munchin
ddoering
08-18-2017, 07:49
Maybe we can get Hillary and McCain to run guns to both sides. They have experience in that and Holder needs a job.