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JJ_BPK
08-15-2017, 06:27
Is everyone in the Five Sided Outhouse insane??

I'm waiting for the USCG RFI for nerf guns.. :mad::mad:


USMC Issues Notice of Intent To Sole Source Purchase Up To 50,814 M27 IAR From H&K

Back in February, MARCORSYSCOM issued an RFI to industry seeking companies capable of manufacturing the 5.56mm NATO M27 Infantry Automatic Rifle, designed by German manufacturer Heckler & Koch and based on their HK416 rifle. Based on internal evaluations, the Marine Corps had determined that it wanted to expand use of the M27 within the rifle squad. Released under the guise of “market research”, “Request for Information (RFI) M67854-17-I-1218 For Marine Corps Systems Command (MARCORSYSCOM), Quantico, VA Infantry Automatic Rifle (IAR)” was used to create a a sole-source “Justification and Approval” in order to purchase the rifles directly from manufacturer H&K without going for an open solicitation. Although several companies who manufacture 416 clones answered the RFI, MARCORSYSCOM evaluated those submissions, and determined that only H&K was capable of producing the weapon they had adopted as the M27.
link: (http://soldiersystems.net/2017/08/13/usmc-issues-notice-of-intent-to-sole-source-up-to-50814-m27-iar-from-hk/)

C Attach ref: H&K M27,, if you havn't been watching..

Combat Diver
08-15-2017, 08:56
Lets get rid of the bed fed SAW and go with a fixed barrel, magazine fed, closed bolt weapon for suppressive fire. Might as just reissue the BAR for those long range shots.


CD

JamesIkanov
08-15-2017, 09:22
Wait, this is like a 1:1 switch? I always thought the idea was that a few M4s would be switched out for this with the goal that the guys with this gun are OK'd to mag dump in the general direction of enemy. A 1:1 switch for an LMG :confused::eek:

Flagg
08-15-2017, 13:25
I thought the introduction of the IAW M27 by the USMC line companies replaced only half the M249 SAWs.

Will this remove all M249 SAWs replacing them with IAW M27s?

JJ_BPK
08-15-2017, 13:33
From the RFI

NOTICE OF INTENT TO SOLE SOURCE – M27 Infantry Automatic Rifle (IAR)
Solicitation Number: M67854-17-R-1248
Agency: Department of the Navy
Office: United States Marine Corps
Location: MARCORSYSCOM

for up to 50,814 - M27 Infantry Automatice Rifles (IAR).

There is some 180K Marines,,
discounting POG's & REMF's??
It looks like they will get two(2) M27 per 0311 grunt??

Team Sergeant
08-15-2017, 14:37
Lets get rid of the bed fed SAW and go with a fixed barrel, magazine fed, closed bolt weapon for suppressive fire. Might as just reissue the BAR for those long range shots.

CD

Every time anyone mentions the BAR on here it give me the chills...... what's that like 150 parts? :confused:

mojaveman
08-15-2017, 17:10
Every time anyone mentions the BAR on here it give me the chills...... what's that like 150 parts?

With it's multiple rates of fire it was kind of fun to shoot though. :D

tom kelly
08-15-2017, 17:19
The BAR is an old weapons platform, It is heavy, the ammunition, .3006 is deadly a 168 grain bullet at @2850 ft/sec. & with a 20 round mag. chances are the intended target will absorb multiple hits. Personal experience as a SF medic in Vietnam showed me that enemy personnel that were engaged in a firefight were usually shot @ 4 or 5 rounds from a full auto burst from a BAR, The survival rate was 0% usually they were DOA by the time I reached the person shot, If they were still alive, Technically, a pulse, shallow breathing their time until they expired was 1 to 5 minutes. The weapon and the 20 round box mags. were heavy; But that was what you would want in a firefight. 3 to5 Strike Force "Chinese nungs were a game changer. TK

Brush Okie
08-15-2017, 18:33
The BAR is an old weapons platform, It is heavy, the ammunition, .3006 is deadly a 168 grain bullet at @2850 ft/sec. & with a 20 round mag. chances are the intended target will absorb multiple hits. Personal experience as a SF medic in Vietnam showed me that enemy personnel that were engaged in a firefight were usually shot @ 4 or 5 rounds from a full auto burst from a BAR, The survival rate was 0% usually they were DOA by the time I reached the person shot, If they were still alive, Technically, a pulse, shallow breathing their time until they expired was 1 to 5 minutes. The weapon and the 20 round box mags. were heavy; But that was what you would want in a firefight. 3 to5 Strike Force "Chinese nungs were a game changer. TK

I knew some WWII vets. One of them was a cat operator on Okinawa and he pick one up on the battlefield to carry on his cat while burying the Japanese alive in their caves. He pretty much said the same thing.

Combat Diver
08-15-2017, 19:35
On the BAR it still soldiers on in the MAG58/M240 series. It uses the same locking system turned 180, FN BAR Type D quick change barrel and MG42 trigger/feed system.:lifter


CD