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Seriously? So, the Army's qualifier for gender is basically socially living as one? You have to be kidding. Talk about falling down the rabbit hole.....
http://freebeacon.com/issues/army-training-tells-soldiers-not-gossip-transgender-troops/
miclo18d
07-12-2017, 04:57
"Lieutenant Marty changed his gender marker in the Service personnel data system from female to male after completing an approved transition plan. Lieutenant Marty has not had sex reassignment surgery as part of the transition plan and is working with his [military medical provider] MMP on a plan to start a family. Lieutenant Marty approached his commanding officer a few weeks ago and mentioned he was pregnant."
"Be aware that colleagues may find this situation confusing," the handbook states.
Ya think?
From this Military Times article I gather that Mattis is in no hurry to recruit transgenders into the services. As far as I am concerned they add nothing to the force and I could care less about their feelings.
http://www.militarytimes.com/articles/mattis-delays-transgender-policy-by-six-months
I AM SURE THE dod WILL BE TAKING STEPS TO FIX THIS ANYTIME NOW.....
rsdengler
07-12-2017, 11:21
Well all I can say is Wow, what the "F"....there is something seriously wrong with our government and society today. The next thing you know people will want to change themselves to become another "species". Amazing, just freaking idiotic, how is that going to work in the Military? Nice, we really want to see the Bearded She-Man naked and pregnant in the shower. How appetizing is that to the brain. :munchin
In defense of the military - this isn't their doing. The last administration told them to accept trannies and they are doing what they are told. Only the Marines had the balls to stand up to it and even they were told to STFU and color. Maybe this administration can revoke this travesty but it is the call of politicians - be they civilian or in military uniforms...they are still politicians.
I've read the entire package on integrating trannies into the force....it is about what you'd expect professionals to do when told to make it happen. No one is advocating for this - so far as I can tell. It is a tremendous waste of limited resources to a population prone to suicide and suffering from mental health maladies. We don't need that shit in the foxhole.
Maybe sanity will once again reign supreme but in the haste to churn out female Rangers; integrate females into BUDS; and "norm" GILBERTS into the force, I don't see any GO's/Flags tossing their stars on the table.
^^^^^That is the most disturbing part. No high viz protest retirements of decision makers.
The next thing you know people will want to change themselves to become another "species".
Funny that you should mention such a crazy idea.....
EGO HIPPO: the subject as metaphor (http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/0969725X.2017.1322822?scroll=top&needAccess=true&journalCode=cang20)
Peer reviewed by our nations academic elite, so it must be a respectable topic with a logical finding.
I still hold military leaders accountable for wherever this ends up. If one of us commits an atrocity, using the excuse that we were "ordered by higher" to carry out an act that we knew to be illegal, immoral, or unethical - the punishment would be swift.
We have been told by our leaders since the day we entered service that we are duty bound to speak truth to power when faced with such orders.
"Moral courage" is what my Drill Sergeant called it.
Unless someone has lied to me, CGSC Department of Command and Leadership (DCL) is supposed to develop officers that have the courage to speak “truth to power”
So... either someone is failing, or "we" have got it all wrong - self-identification is whatever you want to be and the courage to be who you want demands our respects.
one or the other -
either the universe is binary - light or dark, good or bad, right or wrong
or nothing matters
If nothing matters, why do we still take a piss test? Why cant we drink while deployed? Why cant we have dirty magazines while deployed?
...our choices are all respectable aren't they?
Arent they?
In defense of the military - this isn't their doing. The last administration told them to accept trannies and they are doing what they are told. Only the Marines had the balls to stand up to it and even they were told to STFU and color. Maybe this administration can revoke this travesty but it is the call of politicians - be they civilian or in military uniforms...they are still politicians.
I've read the entire package on integrating trannies into the force....it is about what you'd expect professionals to do when told to make it happen. No one is advocating for this - so far as I can tell. It is a tremendous waste of limited resources to a population prone to suicide and suffering from mental health maladies. We don't need that shit in the foxhole.
Maybe sanity will once again reign supreme but in the haste to churn out female Rangers; integrate females into BUDS; and "norm" GILBERTS into the force, I don't see any GO's/Flags tossing their stars on the table.
Very well stated, the military does what it is told to by civilians, any military person that dares to question the logic tends to be looking at a early retirement. I look at this from the vantage point of having served over 40 years ago, does today's modern soldier look at it as not that big a deal? The climate today's children grow up in tends to promote all this touchy feely embrace diversity kumbaya mumbo jumbo with participant ribbons for all where logic get's thrown out the door.
rsdengler
07-12-2017, 15:07
Funny that you should mention such a crazy idea.....
EGO HIPPO: the subject as metaphor (http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/0969725X.2017.1322822?scroll=top&needAccess=true&journalCode=cang20)
Ha..Yep, I have been considered "crazy" in one form or another :o LOL....Funny, how did you happen to find that "article"....just wondering :)
OK a metaphor of Ego Hippo....It states: This article explores the formation of a tranimal, hippopotamus alter-ego. Confronting transgender with transpecies, the author claims that his hippopotamus “identity” allowed him to (verbally) escape, all at once, several sets of categorization that govern human bodies (“gender,” “sexuality,” age). He starts with an account of how his metaphorical hippo-self is collectively produced and performed, distinguishing the subjective, the intersubjective and the social. The article then investigates the politics of equating transgender and transpecies, critically examining the question of the inclusion of “xenogenders” in the trans political movement" Quote from Angelaki Journal of the Theoretical Humanities
Oh my gosh, is that just BS or what from today's "I want to explore my new physical, transgender (am I or aren't I) and mental being in this world" morons, and of course "peer reviewed" by psychotic academic elitists...LOL...too funny, the author just needs to take a nice walk, in the pitch black along a nice steep cliff. He can explore his "Inner Ego Hippo" close to edge....:p
The guidelines reveal that soldiers only need to get a diagnosis from a medical doctor and change their gender in a database before showering with the opposite sex.
The training discusses allowing a male soldier to shower with females because he has changed his gender in the military database. "Because she did not undergo a surgical change, the Soldier still has male genitalia," the Army training states.
All soldiers are to use the "billeting, bathroom, and shower facilities associated with their gender marker" in the DEERS database.
Seriously? No one making policy sees this as pure insanity? The tranny has balls, but the leadership doesn't.
Susan
Funny that you should mention such a crazy idea.....
EGO HIPPO: the subject as metaphor (http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/0969725X.2017.1322822?scroll=top&needAccess=true&journalCode=cang20)
So, if a person identifies as another species, it's OK to hunt them, right?
Susan
PedOncoDoc
07-12-2017, 16:32
So, if a person identifies as another species, it's OK to hunt them, right?
Susan
Hell....the better question is can you eat them?
If so, send them to Venezuela.
:D
So... either someone is failing, or "we" have got it all wrong - self-identification is whatever you want to be and the courage to be who you want demands our respects.
one or the other -
either the universe is binary - light or dark, good or bad, right or wrong
or nothing matters
If nothing matters, why do we still take a piss test? Why can't we drink while deployed? Why can't we have dirty magazines while deployed?
...our choices are all respectable aren't they?
Arent they?
So much truth right there.
Retired 22 years now and while reading about this chaps my ass, I'm just thankful I'm not part of it.
On a related note, folks ask me why I haven't gone into a government job in the past 20+ years. It's because I remember the petty bullshit from my 20 years.
You get to do some great stuff in the military but then there's all that mandatory, bullshit, "sit there and take it" training.
If you do raise your hand and ask the forbidden question, check your watch when your arm goes up because most folks don't know exactly when their career ended.
Best of luck to all you still on AD.
Team Sergeant
07-12-2017, 18:19
Well all I can say is Wow, what the "F"....there is something seriously wrong with our government and society today. The next thing you know people will want to change themselves to become another "species". Amazing, just freaking idiotic, how is that going to work in the Military? Nice, we really want to see the Bearded She-Man naked and pregnant in the shower. How appetizing is that to the brain. :munchin
Trans-species is already here.
http://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/arizona-news/197200001-story
Trannies and the gender confused, next the psychopaths and sociopaths, after that the cannibals, lastly the pedophiles.
Doesn't matter how f**ked up in the head they all are we must welcome them with open arms.......
:rolleyes:
How would the Marines make this ad today: "We're Looking for a Few Good Men!" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YC82SwuDrcE) :confused:
Pat
regularamymedic
07-13-2017, 04:16
This is the country that we are leaving to our children and grandchildren.
I have spent my entire adult life in and out of shitholes like Bosnia, Iraq, Kuwait and Afghanistan, defending traditional family values. Now it seems as if you are not a avid, public supporter of these new ridiculously twisted lifestyles (including this old senior NCO), then you are the problem.
How far is this idiocy going to go? :mad:
How would the Marines make this ad today: "We're Looking for a Few Good Men!" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YC82SwuDrcE) :confused:
Pat
Like this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16fvvPaliVQ
with toy soldiers and no mention of the few and the proud
cool commercial, but I reckon they have moved on from the few, the proud, the Marines.
WarriorDiplomat
07-13-2017, 13:34
I AM SURE THE dod WILL BE TAKING STEPS TO FIX THIS ANYTIME NOW.....
They will fix all this damned inequality....no more denying dammit...... diversity makes us stronger so what about this diversity are they not being treated unequal?
Midgets
Giants
Grossly Overweight
Unhealthily Skinny
Cancerous
Blind
Deaf
Mute
Mentally Ill
Armless
Legless
1-legged
3-legged
Parasitic Twin
Siamese Twin
Dogs
Cats
Horses
Cattle
Monkeys
Zebras
Donkeys
Elephants
Cranes
Eagles
Buzzards
Bumble Bees
Dammit diversity makes us stronger and transgendered people suffer from a similar disability through no fault of their own why aren't they getting the same treatment??
Hell the ACLU isn't representing the above fairly we have a WISR and LGBT......where is the Abnormal In Service Review.
ddoering
07-13-2017, 13:59
I think they should make all females wear a dick for a day. Along with that they should pay for drinks for guys (who would be wearing a vagina for the day) as well as wining and dining them only to be snubbed at the end of the night.
Don't buy into the platitude that "Diversity makes us stronger". When you hear that tripe, simply ask: "How?" "How does it make us stronger?"
Usually people uttering that crap cannot answer it; those that can, spew forth filth they've read in the MSM, easily rebuttable.
I believe the foundational problem is that military service is now seen as a right, rather than a conditional privilege that can be denied or revoked should those conditions not be met.
Golf1echo
07-13-2017, 16:04
As I recall I took an oath to serve my State and my Country, I knew if I didn't meet a certain criteria I would not be accepted and understood if you didn't contribute you would be pushed out.
So my basic question would be does it make the fighting force better, stronger, more capable? If not there is no place for that in our fighting force and the services are in that business, they have no business in facilitating peoples desires out side that realm period!
The idea they would facilitate transitioning people into other entities than what they were when they took the oath is so ludicrous it's hard to find words for. It's one of the better examples of how the last administration worked against us all with plenty more where that came from.
I believe the foundational problem is that military service is now seen as a right, rather than a conditional privilge that can be denied or revoked should those conditions not be met.
Exactly it has become a right and no one shall be denied the privilege of serving regardless of whether can contribute in a positive or negative manner. This "foundational" problem permeates all aspects of our society. We have a military for only one reason and that is to wreak harm on those who would wreak harm on us. Some things should remain sacred.
I am 50 why the fuck can i not rejoin. It is age discrimination. My 80 year old neighbor was in the 82nd 1950 or so we want to join on the buddy system. Everybody else is joining why not the elderly ?
You need to identify as a 22-year old and they will let you sign right up.
rsdengler
07-14-2017, 04:42
You need to identify as a 22-year old and they will let you sign right up.
I identify as a "22" year old....except for my knees, they still remain my "real" age :)
Transgender training....stop the madness.....:munchin
I identify as a "22" year old....except for my knees, they still remain my "real" age :)
Transgender training....stop the madness.....:munchin
The actual condition of your knees or your private parts are reality and there is no room for reality anywhere in this argument. It is all about how YOU identify.
The actual condition of your knees or your private parts are reality and there is no room for reality anywhere in this argument. It is all about how YOU identify.
He identifies as old knees. :D
rsdengler
07-14-2017, 08:29
He identifies as old knees. :D
Ha, Ha, Ha.....Let him identify with "old knees"...I will stick with identifying myself as under "25-years old"....:p
Don't buy into the platitude that "Diversity makes us stronger". When you hear that tripe, simply ask: "How?" "How does it make us stronger?"
Usually, people uttering that crap cannot answer it; those that can spew forth filth they've read in the MSM, easily rebuttable.
It makes us stronger because we have to carry a heavier workload to cover for them.
...carrying the added workload makes us stronger.
It's science.
It makes us stronger because we have to carry a heavier workload to cover for them.
...carrying the added workload makes us stronger.
It's science.
You, Sir, have once again won the Interwebz for the day. :lifter