View Full Version : Well done young man, well done.
Team Sergeant
03-27-2017, 15:33
And now for some good news....
Homeowner's son shoots, kills three would-be burglars
Published March 27, 2017
· FoxNews.com
Three would-be robbers were shot and killed Monday when an Oklahoma homeowner's son opened fire on them with an AR-15, authorities said.
Wagoner County sheriff's deputies were called to the home in Broken Arrow, southeast of Tulsa at around 12:30 p.m. local time. When they arrived, they found the three dead suspects and two uninjured residents.
Sheriff's spokesman Deputy Nick Mahoney said the suspects enetered the home through a glass back door with the intent to burglarize it. It was not immediately clear why they picked that home.
Mahoney said the suspects encountered the homeowner's 19-year-old son, who opened fire after an exchange of words. Two of the suspects died in the home's kitchen while a third was found in the driveway.
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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/03/27/homeowners-son-shoots-kills-three-would-be-burglars.html
ddoering
03-27-2017, 15:38
Nice job. I'd issue him an Expert badge for the AR 15 as well.
There is justice in the world sometimes.
Badger52
03-27-2017, 16:39
Link to the local (Tulsa) paper article, with comments. (http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/local/three-dead-after-broken-arrow-area-homeowner-s-son-shoots/article_64c15c80-0019-56d6-9322-c1b93c0ff5d0.html#user-comment-area)
Funny, I didn't see one comment expressing remorse for any potential Dindu Nuffins. Outstanding.
rsdengler
03-27-2017, 16:44
Good for him; a brave young man. Good guy 3...Scumbags...Dead:D
Glad to see it turned out good for him and he had the presence of mind to do what he needed to do.
I hope he does well from this point and is able to drive on!
Everybody knows that AR15s are not self-defense weapons!!!:D
Good job.:lifter
Uncle Joe says, "Buy a shotgun Jill."
Well done!!
bblhead672
03-28-2017, 07:08
AR-15, when the 1911 just isn't enough firepower! :D
Team Sergeant
03-28-2017, 09:13
Uncle Joe says, "Buy a shotgun Jill."
Well done!!
Only bad thing about shotgun for home defense is "pinpoint" accuracy. Otherwise I agree, shotgun best home defense weapon!
Streck-Fu
03-28-2017, 09:52
Only bad thing about shotgun for home defense is "pinpoint" accuracy. Otherwise I agree, shotgun best home defense weapon!
With the correct ammo selection (Federal Flitecontrol) single hole at all HD ranges is as "pinpoint" an shotgun with buckshot can be.
I would think that for most people, recoil management is the issue.
For the record, I rotated the shotty out of HD duty in favor of an AR loaded with 65gr SGK.
Team Sergeant
03-28-2017, 10:56
With the correct ammo selection (Federal Flitecontrol) single hole at all HD ranges is as "pinpoint" an shotgun with buckshot can be.
I would think that for most people, recoil management is the issue.
For the record, I rotated the shotty out of HD duty in favor of an AR loaded with 65gr SGK.
LOL, he said the "R" word.........
Ever since females and sissy men joined law enforcement they have whined about shotgun recoil, so in order to appease the snowflakes the ammo makeers have introduced "low recoil" shotgun ammo.
https://www.ammunitiondepot.com/949-federal-premium-12-ga-reduced-recoil-2-3-4-9-pellet-flitecontrol-00-buck-shot.html
Soon Special Operations will also be enjoying the very same snowflake ammunition as more females apply and pass the "reduced standards" training courses. :munchin
The Reaper
03-28-2017, 11:30
Have you seen the follow-on "green" replacement for the M855 round?
TR
Oldrotorhead
03-28-2017, 11:35
Uncle Joe says, "Buy a shotgun Jill."
Well done!!
The reason Joe likes shotguns is that they are multi use. Self defense, hunting and as a bong.:D
I like the way they think in Oklahoma, the driver of the getaway car was charged with 3 counts of murder as well as 3 counts on the burglary charge.
I like the way they think in Oklahoma, the driver of the getaway car was charged with 3 counts of murder as well as 3 counts on the burglary charge.
Oklahoma is armed, and ready! Great job by this man and his father for teaching him!:lifter
Although I am unacquainted personally with these folks, they are my neighbors right down the road from us...it is different here in the stix.:). (B.A. is a large community that backs up to ours.)
I read news reports that the neighborhood had been burglarized twice recently, and the hope is now that the trend will be ending.
Holly
Streck-Fu
03-28-2017, 13:45
LOL, he said the "R" word.........
Ever since females and sissy men joined law enforcement they have whined about shotgun recoil, so in order to appease the snowflakes the ammo makeers have introduced "low recoil" shotgun ammo.
I ain't judging, here, just saying....I've seen it. Never used it. Like my coffee, I like my ammo fully loaded and leaded.....which brings up....
Have you seen the follow-on "green" replacement for the M855 round?
TR
When are they coming out with the low recoil 5.56?
Ret10Echo
03-28-2017, 14:38
...and the hope is now that the trend will be ending.
Holly
Abruptly apparently
mojaveman
03-29-2017, 00:22
Good that that happened in Oklahoma. In Kalifornia the perpetrators relatives would probably try and sue him.
DJ Urbanovsky
03-29-2017, 12:28
It's hard to sue people when you are dead. ;)
Good that that happened in Oklahoma. In Kalifornia the perpetrators would probably try and sue him.
Ambush Master
03-29-2017, 18:19
A very good friend of mine was his Instructor!! He's one our Retired Pilots that was also an Instructor @ Gunsite. He works for us a a Contractor and stopped by my cube this morning.
Badger52
03-29-2017, 19:18
A very good friend of mine was his Instructor!! He's one our Retired Pilots that was also an Instructor @ Gunsite. He works for us a a Contractor and stopped by my cube this morning.Well, now that's some kind of provenance.
;)
bblhead672
03-30-2017, 07:41
A very good friend of mine was his Instructor!! He's one our Retired Pilots that was also an Instructor @ Gunsite. He works for us a a Contractor and stopped by my cube this morning.
Appears the instructor's training was well received and implemented.
Sounds like a guy I want for my AR-15 training!
frostfire
03-30-2017, 07:48
It's hard to sue people when you are dead. ;)
but the perp's mom, uncle, sister can and will
I want to know the rounds he used.....so much for all the discussion of .223/5.56 over-penetration and all. He got the job done!
Badger52
03-30-2017, 07:55
but the perp's mom, uncle, sister can and will
Quick review yesterday indicates OK treats such things as an affirmative defense w/immunity from criminal liability. With that in hand, implementation has, thus far, pretty much gotten follow-on civil liability suits tossed by the guys in the black robes.
Some good news to wake up to, for a change.;)
Oklahoma home invasion shooting: No charges against man who killed 3 intruders
Published April 04, 2017 Associated Press
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/04/04/oklahoma-home-invasion-shooting-no-charges-against-man-who-killed-3-intruders.html
OKLAHOMA CITY – An Oklahoma prosecutor said Monday no charges will be filed against a 23-year-old man who fatally shot three teenage intruders in his home, but that the woman who drove them there is being charged with first-degree murder.
Authorities say Zachary Peters was home alone when he shot Maxwell Cook, Jacob Redfern and Jakob Woodruff with an AR-15 rifle on March 27 at his home just outside the Tulsa suburb of Broken Arrow.
"It is the opinion of this office that Zachary Peters acted justifiably ... when he used deadly force to defend his home," said Wagoner County Assistant District Attorney Jack Thorp. "It was clear he operated completely within the law when he used deadly force," Thorp later told The Associated Press.
The spellings of the names and the ages of the teens differ in some public records, but Wagoner County Deputy Nick Mahoney said the latest information is that Cook and Redfern were 18 and Woodruff was 15.
Wagoner County Sheriff Chris Elliott said he supports the decision not to charge Peters.
"We support the right of our citizens, the right to bear arms and to defend their homes," Elliott said. "In this such case, we feel strongly that's what took place here."
Oklahoma is one of 24 states which have laws allowing citizens to shoot someone if they believe the person threatens their safety, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures...
Thorp also said Elizabeth Marie Rodriguez, 21, of Oologah, was charged Monday with three counts of first-degree murder and two counts of burglary in the case and is jailed without bond.
Oklahoma law allows a person to be charged with murder if they take part in a crime in which people are killed, even if the person does not take part in the slaying.
Court records do not list an attorney for Rodriguez, but she has acknowledged driving the three to the home and waiting in a vehicle outside, and said while she understands Peters was protecting his home, she believes he could have shot the three in the legs.
"I won't take responsibility for the murders, I won't. I feel guilty, but I don't feel responsible," Rodriguez said in an interview last week with ABC's "World News Tonight with David Muir."
Elliott said the three were wearing masks, hoodies and gloves and that brass knuckles and a knife were found among their possessions.
Elliott said the group had gone to the property earlier the same day and stole liquor and electronic equipment from a garage apartment, then returned to steal more items.
"We do know at this time that Rodriquez had some indirect knowledge of the Peters' home and she believed there were expensive items inside the house," Elliott said, while declining to elaborate.
Rodriguez has said another person was with her outside the home, but would not identify the person.
Mahoney said investigators have found and questioned that person, but have made no arrest.
Holly