View Full Version : How Obama is scheming to sabotage Trump’s presidency
Doubt the goal is to just oppose Trump. That's small change. Rather to reconfigure or perhaps replace the Democratic Party altogether with a brand new Progressive Party (perhaps led by some former POTUS). It's hard to ignore this stuff. The development of a Progressive Party, however, is less a concern by far than the cultivation of a shadow government. All they'd need to swoop in and save America from itself is a calamity, another 911.
Of course the hazard is that one will put on the tin hats. But, these people would love nothing more than to ultimately see a new Constitutional Convention following a groundswell of a Progressive Party. Stand by.
How Obama is scheming to sabotage Trump’s presidency
When former President Barack Obama said he was “heartened” by anti-Trump protests, he was sending a message of approval to his troops. Troops? Yes, Obama has an army of agitators — numbering more than 30,000 — who will fight his Republican successor at every turn of his historic presidency. And Obama will command them from a bunker less than two miles from the White House.
In what’s shaping up to be a highly unusual post-presidency, Obama isn’t just staying behind in Washington. He’s working behind the scenes to set up what will effectively be a shadow government to not only protect his threatened legacy, but to sabotage the incoming administration and its popular “America First” agenda.
He’s doing it through a network of leftist nonprofits led by Organizing for Action. Normally you’d expect an organization set up to support a politician and his agenda to close up shop after that candidate leaves office, but not Obama’s OFA. Rather, it’s gearing up for battle, with a growing war chest and more than 250 offices across the country.
Since Donald Trump’s election, this little-known but well-funded protesting arm has beefed up staff and ramped up recruitment of young liberal activists, declaring on its website, “We’re not backing down.” Determined to salvage Obama’s legacy, it’s drawing battle lines on immigration, ObamaCare, race relations and climate change.
(more) http://nypost.com/2017/02/11/how-obama-is-scheming-to-sabotage-trumps-presidency/
Sedition, treason???? Nothing can be done???
Sedition, treason???? Nothing can be done???
Damned skippy, sir. A lot can be done.
From the Organizing For Action web site.
We’re community organizers, and we’re proud of it.
"With more than 250 local chapters around the country, OFA volunteers are building this organization from the ground up, community by community, one conversation at a time—whether that’s on a front porch or on Facebook. We’re committed to finding and training the next generation of great progressive organizers, because at the end of the day, we aren’t the first to fight for progressive change, and we won’t be the last."
Take a deep breath. Then take action.
FEBRUARY 13, 2017
Every week, it seems like the current administration and Congress are just going through a list of issues progressive organizers care most about and dedicating their efforts to rolling back our hard-won progress. And it's not just on big-ticket items like Obamacare—they're also going after lesser-known common-sense measures, such as those that make it harder for the mentally ill to buy a gun and a rule that prevented financial advisors from bilking their customers' retirement savings. It's troubling to see years of progress and hard work on the line, but here's how community organizers get through it: We take action.
Keep in mind that progress never comes served on a silver platter; we've always had to work for it. From marriage equality to climate change to health care reform, it's taken years—sometimes decades—of sustained effort from a broad base of citizens to bring these issues to the forefront and persuade decision-makers to move us forward. So in that sense, this new political climate is no different. We've been here before.
When the news gets to be overwhelming, take a deep breath, think of how far we've come and how it came about, and remember that we community organizers carry that torch. Organizing, speaking out, and standing up for what's right is what we do—and we're not going to back down now.
There will certainly be more fights to come and more ways to push back, but here's a short list of actions we can take right now.
https://www.ofa.us/news/deep-breath/
OUR ISSUES
Climate change
Immigration reform
Economic opportunity
Expanding equality
Gun violence prevention
Health care
Stand with women
bblhead672
02-14-2017, 09:01
Bring it progs! There will be blood.
Another brief glimpse into the world of community organizers at the link to last night's interview below - Yvette is a middle school teacher...oh the irony of her definition of fascism...these fanatics are serious.
Tucker Carlson Has UC Berkeley Protest Leader Yvette Felarca Explain Fascism
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KVYKG49rgto
FWIW - BAMN = is a group calling itself: By Any Means Necessary. Tool around that site for a while and get a flavor for what is facing the nation today..."American Spring?"
http://www.bamn.com/
mark46th
02-14-2017, 10:09
I hope that Keith Ellison is chosen as DNC chairman. It will let the remaining sane democrats know just how far off-track the democratic party has gone.
Old Dog New Trick
02-14-2017, 10:15
Another brief glimpse into the world of community organizers at the link to last night's interview below - Yvette is a middle school teacher...oh the irony of her definition of fascism...these fanatics are serious.
Tucker Carlson Has UC Berkeley Protest Leader Yvette Felarca Explain Fascism
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KVYKG49rgto
FWIW - BAMN = is a group calling itself: By Any Means Necessary. Tool around that site for a while and get a flavor for what is facing the nation today..."American Spring?"
http://www.bamn.com/
I enjoy watching Tucker continuously hand people a bigger shovel when their hole isn't deep enough already.
If my son had that teacher she would lose her mind and be taken off in a straight jacket by the end of the day. (He's a fourth grader so I've still got time but he already knows more than she does. OTOH - she might be taken off in handcuffs via a hospital for sustained injuries and arrested for inciting violence.)
Tucker handled that interview well.
As for the sabotage to Trump's presidency...
We witness a constant attack on Trump's legitimacy...
The community organizers have the roadmap...the fundamental objective is social revolution...first, gain attention...then...
..."localized guerrilla war,” then “war of movement” and finally “general uprising.”
We've seen the movie before.
GratefulCitizen
02-14-2017, 12:08
Myopia will be their downfall.
It's a big country with politically diverse populations, state governments, and local governments.
They will only succeed in fouling their own nests.
...And the Federal government will not likely bail them out of their mess.
DIYPatriot
02-14-2017, 12:25
...and finally “general uprising.”
When do we get to play whack-a-mole?
When do we get to play whack-a-mole?
Respectfully, currently we are fundamentally in an information war in the Information Age.
Subversion, instability, illegitimacy...these are the tools of the insurgents...for now...
...then...arms might be supplied to the street thugs. The black block types are already in the street...the fanatics will (if an environment for instability grows) eventually take it to the next level a la the Weathermen (and others) of the late 1960's -1970s.
DIYPatriot
02-14-2017, 15:16
Respectfully, currently we are fundamentally in an information war in the Information Age.
Subversion, instability, illegitimacy...these are the tools of the insurgents...for now...
...then...arms might be supplied to the street thugs. The black block types are already in the street...the fanatics will (if an environment for instability grows) eventually take it to the next level a la the Weathermen (and others) of the late 1960's -1970s.
When we have groups calling themselves "By Any Means Necessary", it makes you wonder just how far they will go. Especially, when you consider the domestic terrorists such as Bill Ayers and others who are influential to these up and coming so-called activists.
When we have groups calling themselves "By Any Means Necessary", it makes you wonder just how far they will go. Especially, when you consider the domestic terrorists such as Bill Ayers and others who are influential to these up and coming so-called activists.
Oh, they mean by any means necessary. Never underestimate a psychotic, indoctrinated, radical (ETA: or a true believer). Prudence requires that you take them at their word. Unfortunately, the USA has both domestic and foreign groups actively (aggressively) vying for the same revolution, for now...they'll fight among themselves after the social upheaval quiets down. The good guys need to win this one.
Team Sergeant
02-14-2017, 16:43
Bring it progs! There will be blood.
You read a lot of Alex Jones and Paul Watson articles too? :munchin
bblhead672
02-15-2017, 08:32
You read a lot of Alex Jones and Paul Watson articles too? :munchin
Who? Don't know either of them.
Who? Don't know either of them.
Not attempting to speak for TS, but here's a site, which does a good job explaining where we currently are that you ought to read.
https://mountainguerrilla.wordpress.com
Edited to add: I have a sneaking suspicion the author is a member here but have been known to be wrong before.
rsdengler
02-15-2017, 12:17
Not attempting to speak for TS, but here's a site, which does a good job explaining where we currently are that you ought to read.
https://mountainguerrilla.wordpress.com
Edited to add: I have a sneaking suspicion the author is a member here but have been known to be wrong before.
I looked at your link to that site, intense. We are basically in a very divided country right now. We do need to look at ways to protect ourselves because our Government Representatives do not give a rat's ass about you and I (Especially in the Liberal State of Maryland) . I am now looking into handgun training around my area. My hairstylist gave me a business card for handgun safety classes; she and I will be going together (I am looking into the guy's credentials now) and will be heading to the firing range after my training for practice. Luckily I live in a Pro-Republican county, safety in numbers....Now I need survival courses....heading for the woods...:)
bblhead672
02-15-2017, 14:00
You read a lot of Alex Jones and Paul Watson articles too? :munchin
After a bit of reading at MountainGuerrilla site, I am apologizing for my remark and will STFU about things I don't yet understand.
atticus finch
02-15-2017, 16:39
Not attempting to speak for TS, but here's a site, which does a good job explaining where we currently are that you ought to read.
https://mountainguerrilla.wordpress.com
Edited to add: I have a sneaking suspicion the author is a member here but have been known to be wrong before.
wrong conclusions in the article. Bullying & violence at their current level requires no courage & no real risk as they aren't taking beanbag rounds in the cojones or anything else.
A bully is a coward, always has been. They do what they do only when they know they can get away with it.
Right now the rules of engagement under the law favor this behavior, thats the only edge they have.
They push things up to the point where an individual only has one recourse, the use of force to deal with them. They do this because they know most people are scared of the legal consequence of doing so.
I saw this same behavior in `92 during the rodney king summer games, soon as they understood the aforementioned rules of engagement were no longer in effect, their behavior changed immediately.
The left tried this same sort've thing back in the late `60's & early `70's, it failed back then also.
wrong conclusions in the article. Bullying & violence at their current level requires no courage & no real risk as they aren't taking beanbag rounds in the cojones or anything else.
A bully is a coward, always has been. They do what they do only when they know they can get away with it.
Right now the rules of engagement under the law favor this behavior, thats the only edge they have.
They push things up to the point where an individual only has one recourse, the use of force to deal with them. They do this because they know most people are scared of the legal consequence of doing so.
I saw this same behavior in `92 during the rodney king summer games, soon as they understood the aforementioned rules of engagement were no longer in effect, their behavior changed immediately.
The left tried this same sort've thing back in the late `60's & early `70's, it failed back then also.
IMHO he's not saying the world is ending, but he is trying to say that many on the left are the ones employing violence now, which will continue to escalate, and they will become more proficient. Those on the right are not doing this yet.... I also think he is trying to set expectations with the more boisterous on the right. When you look at the hardcore left, many are committed to violence. You alluded to living the late 60s / early 70s then you must remember the radicals turning violent - literally hundreds of bombings in that time frame. BLUF: there are those on the left who know how to, can and will use violence effectively. Ultimately, he's saying get training, obtain the proper skill sets, e.g., first aid, shooting, moving, communicating, continue to train and have the right frame of mind when and if the shit hits the fan. Ymmv...
Team Sergeant
02-17-2017, 11:24
IMHO he's not saying the world is ending, but he is trying to say that many on the left are the ones employing violence now, which will continue to escalate, and they will become more proficient. Those on the right are not doing this yet.... I also think he is trying to set expectations with the more boisterous on the right. When you look at the hardcore left, many are committed to violence. You alluded to living the late 60s / early 70s then you must remember the radicals turning violent - literally hundreds of bombings in that time frame. BLUF: there are those on the left who know how to, can and will use violence effectively. Ultimately, he's saying get training, obtain the proper skill sets, e.g., first aid, shooting, moving, communicating, continue to train and have the right frame of mind when and if the shit hits the fan. Ymmv...
Now? You think the liberal/socialist/communist left is employing violence now?
Name one violent American protest in the last two decades that was right-wing, just one.
SEIU, collages, universities, any labor union, black lives matter, etc etc etc are all left wing. And all have employed threats and violence.
Ret10Echo
02-17-2017, 11:54
Now? You think the liberal/socialist/communist left is employing violence now?
Interesting (and short) summary here (http://reason.com/blog/2013/03/13/communism-killed-94m-in-20th-century)
This isn't "new".
communism was the leading ideological cause of death between 1900 and 2000. 94 million perished in China, the Soviet Union, North Korea, Afghanistan, and Eastern Europe
The violence of the left....
The stupidity of the west.
According to a 2011 Rasmussen poll (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/march_2011/11_say_communism_better_than_u_s_system_of_politic s_and_economics), 11% of Americans think that communism would better serve this country’s needs than our current system.
Now? You think the liberal/socialist/communist left is employing violence now?
Name one violent American protest in the last two decades that was right-wing, just one.
SEIU, collages, universities, any labor union, black lives matter, etc etc etc are all left wing. And all have employed threats and violence.
TS, poor word choice. The left has always been about violence. Said the same thing to my Dad after the election. I had to refer him to The Black Book of Communism, which does an excellent job documenting their violent tendencies, but you already know that. Hope all is well on your end and cheers!
atticus finch
02-17-2017, 17:43
IMHO he's not saying the world is ending, but he is trying to say that many on the left are the ones employing violence now, which will continue to escalate, and they will become more proficient. Those on the right are not doing this yet.... I also think he is trying to set expectations with the more boisterous on the right. When you look at the hardcore left, many are committed to violence. You alluded to living the late 60s / early 70s then you must remember the radicals turning violent - literally hundreds of bombings in that time frame. BLUF: there are those on the left who know how to, can and will use violence effectively. Ultimately, he's saying get training, obtain the proper skill sets, e.g., first aid, shooting, moving, communicating, continue to train and have the right frame of mind when and if the shit hits the fan. Ymmv...
To a certain extent he is ranting 'the sky is falling, the sky is falling" in that these leftists, based on their current behavior, constitute a force or something with the requisites needed to make them something serious.
I do not agree with that at all, based on my own experiences and watching what is going on.
These people's behavior amounts to no more than high-school bullying with a degree of adult sophistication smeared over it.
They are having a good time getting away with their behavior for now, the moment the rules of engagement change they will have to face a reality they are not prepared for.
I do agree they will escalate things because for the time being our side of the fence is still adjusting to the situation. Many times I see videos of people exhorting our side of the political fence to accept and understand that we are going to have to use force to defend ourselves against this behavior.
That cultural change is happening, albeit slowly, but it is coming and will manifest itself within time.
When that cultural change happens, the rules of engagement will change and those cowards will face reality.
Not to mention this violence is no more than Alinski 101.
"power is not only what you have but what the other side thinks you have"
Right now they are trying to create the very impression Mr Mosby gave, that they are more than what they are, the goal being to another rule stated by alinski: "the fear is more than the thing itself"
The thing the want us afraid of is the prospect of having to face them, when in fact having to face them is the easier part if done correctly.
If you watched what they did to milo's talk at berkeley, it was nothing more than an ambush, not a standing fight. Nobody went to milo's talk expecting violence and/or a riot, protesters yes but not what happened, consequently everyone there was caught off-guard and the leftists knew they would be and took advantage of it.
Not to mention if their convictions are right and they have the courage to stand behind their actions, why are they hiding their faces with masks?
None of this is the behavior of courage which would make these people a force to be reckoned with, it is cowardice hidden behind the convenience of the current situation and it is a comfort to know these individuals do not understand they are in a lot of ways living on borrowed time.
I don't dispute the need for training on our side of the fence as Mr Mosby stated, he is correct there is a need for it, this will escalate to where we will need to use force to defend ourselves and the civil rights these leftists are attempting to shut down. However once things get to that level, it is an entirely different situation for them and I have been in that situation before and seen first hand what they are.
When the rioters in `92 found out that if need be, I would kill them without hesitation at my own discretion and would not face retribution via the legal system. They understood they could no longer essentially 'hide behind the law' , as this current bunch is, and their behavior stopped there and then.
As for the late `60's & `70's, it is a good example of what I said about these people having fun playing revolutionary so long as the 'Eye of Mordor' doesn't descend upon them. You'll note what happened to the "revolutionaries" from back then once they attracted attention up to the federal level, it was no longer fun and it all came to a halt when the prospect of a long-term vacation in 'club fed' became a reality. Not to mention the majority of the public hated them & those who supported them, resulting partly in Nixon and Reagan being elected and a resurgence of the political right. Notice any similarities from this recent election?
This should not be taken as a dismissal of who and what they are in terms of the physical threat they can pose, however they are not some force to be reckoned with such as Mosby contends.
I am still getting a kick out of talking heads like Georgie Snuffalupagus and his ilk repeating for the masses how this is no different from what the tea party was doing.
Hope reigns, but sadly, from 21 January forward, the people of the United States of America will get...
...and DESERVE exactly the destination we arrive at during the next four years.
We will ALL deserve what we as a nation, end up with.
Golf1echo
02-18-2017, 09:53
Violence and propaganda
Clearly many of us have given up on MSM.....wonder why?
Old Dog New Trick
02-18-2017, 14:40
Violence and propaganda
Clearly many of us have given up on MSM.....wonder why?
When that garbage can becomes a blood pooling dead twenty something college student; I wonder how many people will stomach the Snapchat and live video FB posts.
These protests haven't gotten real yet for many. Those that were part a part of the California UC Davis protest onto the freeway quickly realized playing on the freeway at night was in fact dangerous. The protester in Washington UW that got gut shot apologized to the person who shot him and realized what he was doing caused his own results. In both of these cases no police charges were ever brought against the 'innocent' victims of violent or mischievous behavior of the protesters.
As has been said, when the ROE changes and the police in riot gear are given the full support of the tax payers to quell violence and arrest those responsible for property damage...the manner in which they the police go about that will be accepted by the public.
There has to be consequences for illegal behavior or the behavior will escalate until met with resistance.
GratefulCitizen
02-18-2017, 15:29
They're mistaking forbearance for weakness.
Guessing most of these participation trophy protesters haven't trained or competed in any boxing or similar sport without layers of bubble wrap.
Everyone's tough when they fight the heavy bag.
It's a little different when your opponent hits back.
Everyone's tough when they fight the heavy bag.
Are you kidding? The heavy bag would regularly wear me out before it even started to look tired.