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spaike97
02-14-2017, 02:00
Things escalated really quickly. Now the thing is, who's gonna replace him on a permanent basis?
Things escalated really quickly. Now the thing is, who's gonna replace him on a permanent basis?
Seems like Flynn has been a target since his name was first mentioned. I read this morning that Robert Harward and Petraeus might be new candidates.
The Dems really want the entire Trump Administration to resign or be impeached...
Representatives John Conyers of Michigan and Elijah Cummings, to of the most Honorable Democrats said "Now, we in Congress need to know who authorized his actions, permitted them, and continued to let him have access to our most sensitive national security information despite knowing these risks"
And for days on end the Honorable Maxine Waters has been clamoring for the impeachment of President Trump.
On top of that while I was driving around yesterday I heard that Obama may have set himself up with an offsite White House in those last minutes EO's he signed in the last hours of his administration.....and some say he is orchestrating the ongoing discourse.
The Judiciary has over stepped it bounds. The education secretary has been obstructed from doing her job. Leaks to the media..........the inmates (public servants) are running the asylum!
I think some of these subversives should be hung in the public square...
...hung by the neck in front of their children
Seems like Flynn has been a target since his name was first mentioned. I read this morning that Robert Harward and Petraeus might be new candidates.
The Dems really want the entire Trump Administration to resign or be impeached...
Representatives John Conyers of Michigan and Elijah Cummings, to of the most Honorable Democrats said "Now, we in Congress need to know who authorized his actions, permitted them, and continued to let him have access to our most sensitive national security information despite knowing these risks"
And for days on end the Honorable Maxine Waters has been clamoring for the impeachment of President Trump.
If there is one thing in life I despise, it's sore, pathetic losers masquerading around as adults. The above listed losers need to realize they lost the battle and either move on or quit and go back to their caves.
If there is one thing in life I despise, it's sore, pathetic losers masquerading around as adults. The above listed losers need to realize they lost the battle and either move on or quit and go back to their caves.
Oh, they're just getting started.
Oh, they're just getting started.
Indeed they are. The clown will be strong in the next coming months to be sure.
GratefulCitizen
02-14-2017, 12:03
Trump needs to use this as an opportunity.
Flynn's replacement should be someone more unpalatable to the dims than Flynn was.
Libtard sour grapes aside, is Gen. Flynn without fault here?
Old Dog New Trick
02-14-2017, 12:29
Trump should nominate Eddie Snowden for the job.
I honestly don't know what the issue was between Flynn and the Russkies but if there was collusion or impropriety that could bite him in the ass he should step down and publicly state that he thought he was doing the right thing for the country but made a mess of it. Always have to tell your boss the truth!
It's telling that the Dems think that Patreus should be given another chance. No, I don't think so...he's already a rotten apple.
For some strange reason, I figured that things would begin to make more sense in the world once we elected once Trump was elected.
Things seem to be making less sense though.
Old Dog New Trick
02-14-2017, 12:36
For some strange reason, I figured that things would begin to make more sense in the world once we elected once Trump was elected.
Things seem to be making less sense though.
I don't think so. I really believe though that the level to which the Dems will go to undermine and de-legitimize this administration might bring us to the brink of civil war and active insurrection.
Can't remember the foaming at the mouth hatred since the Vietnam war protests and Nixon.
ETA: The people that elected Trump own the pitchforks, torches, and cling to their guns and bibles. The opposition only have a smartphone and a bullhorn.
I honestly don't know what the issue was between Flynn and the Russkies but if there was collusion or impropriety that could bite him in the ass he should step down and publicly state that he thought he was doing the right thing for the country but made a mess of it. Always have to tell your boss the truth!
Yep...don't lie to the boss and, if you did wrong, own it upfront. He could have done just as you spelled out in the above quoted portion and realized that he had become too much of a distraction for the administration to have to deal with since they are fighting multiple fronts.
bblhead672
02-14-2017, 14:06
I don't think so. I really believe though that the level to which the Dems will go to undermine and de-legitimize this administration might bring us to the brink of civil war and active insurrection.
Can't remember the foaming at the mouth hatred since the Vietnam war protests and Nixon.
ETA: The people that elected Trump own the pitchforks, torches, and cling to their guns and bibles. The opposition only have a smartphone and a bullhorn.
^ This!
I don't think so. I really believe though that the level to which the Dems will go to undermine and de-legitimize this administration might bring us to the brink of civil war and active insurrection.
Did we not do the same thing with Obama? The whole birth certificate, associate with Ayers, Rev. Wright, nation of origin, inexperience, etc...
This "feels" different though. There is an air of increasingly open hostility amongst the #nevertrumpers. We never had anti-anybody "protest" (riots), never beat up Obama voters, or ripped those stupid stickers off their cars, or vandalized their yard signs. There was no march after his inauguration.
We are accused of being violent, racists, homo-islamo-xeno-phobic, yet look where all that behavior is coming from. (Its not from the right side of the fence, or even the middle).
This happens with elections. But, how issues are drug out says a lot about the people doing the dragging. There are clowns with a R, D, I, or whatever other letter they want after their names. The problem is, once the issue has been dealt with...move on. It will be addressed or it won't. Doesn't make it right, it's just what it is. If it isn't handled, they should be held accountable at the next election. If it isn't, then the collective people have the government they elected.
Did we not do the same thing with Obama? The whole birth certificate, associate with Ayers, Rev. Wright, nation of origin, inexperience, etc...
This "feels" different though. There is an air of increasingly open hostility amongst the #nevertrumpers. We never had anti-anybody "protest" (riots), never beat up Obama voters, or ripped those stupid stickers off their cars, or vandalized their yard signs. There was no march after his inauguration.
We are accused of being violent, racists, homo-islamo-xeno-phobic, yet look where all that behavior is coming from. (Its not from the right side of the fence, or even the middle).
It feels different because it is different.
Anti-Obama was predominantly anti left, anti-community organizer, anti-incompetence and yes some "anti's" were undoubtably based on a race. But, there was no apparent commitment to violence.
In contrast, there is now a convergence of dissidents again advocating loudly for total social revolution. And, the commitment to violence is palpable and lurks just under the surface.
Mike Flynn is but one scalp in this war of ideas - and he may have even handed them the knife.
DIYPatriot
02-14-2017, 15:18
Did we not do the same thing with Obama?
Were there any groups that were sponsored by the conservatives that sought to disrupt and physically prevent people from attending Obama's inauguration? Serious question.
Look, Flynn is fundamentally accused of 1) communicating with Russia (not sure why there is hysteria about this), and more importantly 2) lying to VP Pence about it. If this is true, that is why he was pushed out.
You really have to read between the lines of all the leaks. Trump's inner circle is waging a brutal "game of thrones" struggle over which faction will dominate the others. Preibus is in over his head? Bannon is hiding documents? Miller seems alright? The leaks from "anonymous white house staffers" aren't, in my opinion, career staff dudes. Almost everyone in the WH is an import from the election. The leaks (at least the ones about what is happening day to day in the White House) are usually aimed at one of the top couple of guys.
I think there is a general war among the ministers over who will steer policy. Trump brought in a diverse collection of people. Priebus is literally a party man to the core. Pence is the hard right social conservative. Bannon wants to burn the house down and re-build from scratch. Miller seems like he is being marketed as the "sane" one. Conway seems like she is fighting for relevance. Congress disagrees with most of them.
If I had to guess, I would say that the GOP and Pence are trying to UW the rest of the inner circle into compliance or an early grave while Bannon and Preibus are wrestling each other for control. The leaks are coming both from this, and from the lack of attention to asserting control over the bureaucracy that is still geared for Obama policies.
Old Dog New Trick
02-14-2017, 15:33
Did we not do the same thing with Obama? The whole birth certificate, associate with Ayers, Rev. Wright, nation of origin, inexperience, etc...
This "feels" different though. There is an air of increasingly open hostility amongst the #nevertrumpers. We never had anti-anybody "protest" (riots), never beat up Obama voters, or ripped those stupid stickers off their cars, or vandalized their yard signs. There was no march after his inauguration.
We are accused of being violent, racists, homo-islamo-xeno-phobic, yet look where all that behavior is coming from. (Its not from the right side of the fence, or even the middle).
No, I believe the grown ups might have bitched, whined and complained...some more loudly than others but they were still grown ups and moved on to the next election. Of which the RNC chose an idiot from a cross-section of idiots.
What we are seeing is mass hysteria and hyperbole fanning the flames of hypocrisy gone wild.
We pointed out the areas of concern regarding Obama and then dug our trenches for better or worse. Eight years in the history of the United States is a blip and so will this administration be. But the fault lines run deep and the divide has become greater than at anytime in my yet young lifetime or 54 years.
I'm am so grateful for the many parents and adults that raised me until I was 17 before finding my own way; and the path I've taken is far different than the paths of my generation and their offspring. The parallels are so different today that they converge at sharp right angles and collide. In a way it's been a long time coming from the end of the greatest generation. The baby boomers had it all and wanted more. Their offspring thinks it all belongs to them without earning it and their offspring demands that someone provide it to them on a silver platter.
They are in for a rude awakening and this is it. It's happening right now and as far as I'm concerned it can't happen fast enough or soon enough.
Let's get the party started!
Ret10Echo
02-14-2017, 16:32
If I had to guess, I would say that the GOP and Pence are trying to UW the rest of the inner circle into compliance or an early grave while Bannon and Preibus are wrestling each other for control. The leaks are coming both from this, and from the lack of attention to asserting control over the bureaucracy that is still geared for Obama policies.
I'd simplify slightly and say that this is a struggle of the "2-party system" versus the rogue "Bull Moose Party".
Inside the Beltway, the (2) parties need the existing system to remain in place in order to continue the status quo. Politicians and hangers-on accumulate power...money gets exchanged and the American people get screwed....the win-win-lose paradigm.
Word I heard that the rub was in Flynn leaning too far forward in the fox hole and "negotiating" or conversing with Russians prior to being officially put into power. The jackals are circling so anyone who shows weakness is going to get fired pretty rapidly is my guess.
The left in Amerika is adjusting to the historical norm of leftists utilizing increasing violence.
Trapper John
02-15-2017, 08:02
I'd simplify slightly and say that this is a struggle of the "2-party system" versus the rogue "Bull Moose Party".
Inside the Beltway, the (2) parties need the existing system to remain in place in order to continue the status quo. Politicians and hangers-on accumulate power...money gets exchanged and the American people get screwed....the win-win-lose paradigm.
Word I heard that the rub was in Flynn leaning too far forward in the fox hole and "negotiating" or conversing with Russians prior to being officially put into power. The jackals are circling so anyone who shows weakness is going to get fired pretty rapidly is my guess.
The left in Amerika is adjusting to the historical norm of leftists utilizing increasing violence.
BINGO!!
Only edit I would make is change "leftists" to "neo-fascists". More accurate IMO.
Were there any groups that were sponsored by the conservatives that sought to disrupt and physically prevent people from attending Obama's inauguration? Serious question.
Negative. However, if you put your faith in the media, you may be under the false impression that the Tea Party was playing the part then, that blac bloc is playing now.
Suprise, suprise..."Trump knew"
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/14/us/politics/fbi-interviewed-mike-flynn.html
I think some of these subversives should be hung in the public square...
...hung by the neck in front of their children
OMG...what a violent reaction. Totally out of reason.
Wait a minute...nevermind. It's a good idea.
lexxylargo
02-16-2017, 21:18
Things escalated really quickly. Now the thing is, who's gonna replace him on a permanent basis? Flynn didn't violate the Logan Act. I think intel needs to be evaluated and some should be relieved of their duties.
spaike97
02-21-2017, 15:14
Update. H.R. McMaster picked as new National Security Advisor.
Badger52
02-21-2017, 16:45
Flynn didn't violate the Logan Act. I think intel needs to be evaluated and some should be relieved of their duties.And, of course, the Russians get another confirmation of their assumption that all their folks' comms are monitored. (Because, as Clapper said, we'd never just unilaterally eavesdrop on an American citizen.)
To brighten the day - I share an open letter to former President Obama from Michael Flynn’s lawyer, Sidney Powell. Ms. Powell corrects the record and takes the most famous member of the Choom Gang to school. Complete copy and PDF version at link below.
Recall that recently - former President Obama - commenting in a leaked telephone conversation on the Michael Flynn situation reportedly said: “there is no precedent that anybody can find for someone who has been charged with perjury just getting off scot-free. That’s the kind of stuff where you begin to get worried that basic — not just institutional norms — but our basic understanding of rule of law is at risk.” BHO
Sounds ominous doesn’t it? Read on...
Open Memorandum to Barack Obama
by Sidney Powell May 13, 2020 in Media
OPEN MEMORANDUM
To: Barack Hussein Obama
From: Sidney Powell
www.SidneyPowell.com
Date: May 13, 2020
Re: Your Failure to Find Precedent for Flynn Dismissal
Regarding the decision of the Department of Justice to dismiss charges against General Flynn, in your recent call with your alumni, you expressed great concern: “there is no precedent that anybody can find for someone who has been charged with perjury just getting off scot-free. That’s the kind of stuff where you begin to get worried that basic — not just institutional norms — but our basic understanding of rule of law is at risk.”
Here is some help—if truth and precedent represent your true concern. Your statement is entirely false. However, it does explain the damage to the Rule of Law throughout your administration.
First, General Flynn was not charged with perjury—which requires a material false statement made under oath with intent to deceive.1 A perjury prosecution would have been appropriate and the Rule of Law applied if the Justice Department prosecuted your former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe for his multiple lies under oath in an investigation of a leak only he knew he caused.
McCabe lied under oath in fully recorded and transcribed interviews with the Inspector General for the DOJ. He was informed of the purpose of the interview, and he had had the benefit of counsel. He knew he was the leaker. McCabe even lied about lying. He lied to his own agents—which sent them on a “wild-goose-chase”—thereby making his lies “material” and an obstruction of justice. Yet, remarkably, Attorney General Barr declined to prosecute McCabe for these offenses.
Applying the Rule of Law, after declining McCabe’s perjury prosecution, required the Justice Department to dismiss the prosecution of General Flynn who was not warned, not under oath, had no counsel, and whose statements were not only not recorded, but were created as false by FBI agents who falsified the 302.
Second, it would seem your “wingman” Eric Holder is missing a step these days at Covington & Burling LLP. Indelibly marked in his memory (and one might think, yours) should be his Motion to Dismiss the multi-count jury verdict of guilty and the entire case against former United States Senator Ted Stevens. Within weeks of Mr. Holder becoming Attorney General, he moved to dismiss the Stevens prosecution in the interest of justice for the same reasons the Justice Department did against General Flynn—egregious misconduct by prosecutors who hid exculpatory evidence and concocted purported crimes.
As horrifying as the facts of the Stevens case were, they pale in comparison to the targeted setup, framing, and prosecution of a newly elected President’s National Security Advisor and the shocking facts that surround it. This case was an assault on the heart of liberty— our cherished system of self-government, the right of citizens to choose their President, and the hallowed peaceful transition of power.
Third, the inability of anyone in your alumni association to find “anybody who has been charged [with anything] just getting off scot-free” would be laughable were it not so pathetic.
Many of your alum feature prominently in the non-fiction legal thriller published in 2014: Licensed to Lie: Exposing Corruption in the Department of Justice. A national best- seller, it focusses on the egregious prosecutorial misconduct of your longest serving White House Counsel, Kathryn Ruemmler; your counter-terrorism advisor Lisa Monaco; Loretta Lynch’s DAG for the Criminal Division Leslie Caldwell; and Mueller protégé Andrew Weissmann. While they worked as federal prosecutors on the Enron Task Force—under the purported supervision of Christopher Wray—they destroyed Arthur Andersen LLP and its 85,000 jobs; sent four Merrill Lynch executives to prison on an indictment that criminalized an innocent business transaction while they hid the evidence that showed those defendants were innocent for six years. Both cases were reversed on appeal for their over-criminalization and misconduct. Indeed, Andersen was reversed by a unanimous Supreme Court.
Fourth, even if your many alumni don’t remember multiple cases that had to be reversed or dismissed for their own misconduct, Judge Emmet Sullivan should remember dismissing the corrupted case against Ted Stevens. Judge Sullivan is the judicial hero of Licensed to Lie. It is that case that caused Judge Sullivan to enter the strong Brady order the Mueller and D.C. career prosecutors violated repeatedly in the Flynn prosecution.
Fifth, there is precedent for guilty pleas being vacated. Your alumni Weissmann and Ruemmler are no strangers to such reversals. At least two guilty pleas they coerced by threats against defendants in Houston had to be thrown out—again for reasons like those here. The defendants “got off scot-free” because—like General Flynn—your alumni had concocted the charges and terrorized the defendants into pleading guilty to “offenses” that were not crimes. Andersen partner David Duncan even testified for the government against Andersen in its trial, but his plea had to be vacated. Enron Broadband defendant Christopher Calger had his plea vacated. There are many others across the country.
Sixth, should further edification be necessary, see Why Innocent People Plead Guilty, written in 2014 by federal Judge Jed Rakoff (a Clinton appointee). Abusive prosecutors force innocent people to plead guilty with painful frequency. The Mueller special counsel operation led by Andrew Weissmann and Weissmann “wannabes” specializes in prosecutorial terrorist tactics repulsive to everything “justice” is supposed to mean. These tactics are designed to intimidate their targets into pleading guilty—while punishing them and their families with the process itself and financial ruin.
Most important, General Flynn was honest with the FBI agents. They knew he was—and briefed that to McCabe and others three different times. At McCabe’s directions, Agent Strzok and McCabe’s “Special Counsel” Lisa Page, altered the 302 to create statements Weissmann, Mueller, Van Grack, and Zainab Ahmad could assert were false. Only the FBI agents lied—and falsified documents. The crimes are theirs alone.
Seventh, the D.C. circuit in which you reside vacated a Section 1001 case for a legal failure much less egregious than those in General Flynn’s case. United States v. Safavian, 528 F.3d 957 (D.C. Cir. 2008). Safavian sought advice from his agency’s ethics board and did not give them all the relevant info. The jury convicted him on the theory it was a 1001 violation to conceal the information from the government ethics board. The court disagreed: “As Safavian argues and as the government agrees, there must be a legal duty to disclose in order for there to be a concealment offense in violation of § 1001(a)(1), yet the government failed to identify a legal disclosure duty except by reference to vague standards of conduct for government employees.” General Flynn did not even know he was the subject of an investigation—and in truth, he was not. The only crimes here were by your alumni in the FBI, White House, intelligence community, and Justice Department.
These are just a few obvious and well-known examples to those paying any attention to criminal justice issues.
Finally, the “leaked” comments from your alumni call further evinces your obsession with destroying a distinguished veteran of the United States Army who has defended the Constitution and this country “from all enemies, foreign and domestic,” with the highest honor for thirty-three years. He and many others will continue to do so.
1As a “constitutional lawyer,” surely you recall that perjury (or false statements) also requires intent to deceive. In Bronston v. United States, 409 U.S. 352 (1973), the Supreme Court reversed a conviction of perjury. In Bronston, the defendant’s answer was a truthful statement, but not directly responsive to the question and ultimately misled federal authorities. The Court determined: “A jury should not be permitted to engage in conjecture whether an unresponsive answer, true and complete on its face, was intended to mislead or divert the examiner; the state of mind of the witness is relevant only to the extent that it bears on whether “he does not believe [his answer] to be true.” To hold otherwise would be to inject a new and confusing element into the adversary testimonial system we know.” Id. at 359. The FBI agents who interviewed General Flynn specifically noted that his answers were true or he believed his answers to be true—completely defeating criminal intent. Furthermore, General Flynn knew and remarked they had transcripts of his conversations.
https://sidneypowell.com/media/open-memorandum-to-barack-obama/
Badger52
05-19-2020, 06:23
To brighten the day -Thanks very much for that. Don't get as much time lately to ferret as I'd like & that is much appreciated on this end, for its references as well as the history that applies them.
Damn, that's a lot of rope...
This is fascinating...the amicus-prosecutor (who Judge Sullivan put in place to substitute for the DOJ) wants a hearing for oral argument when Flynn couldn’t even get a hearing to withdraw his plea !
People more than occasionally plead or settle for a variety of reasons not the least of which is to simply stop the financial and emotional destruction they experience at the hands of unscrupulous attorneys - not because they are actually guilty of a given accusation - but because of the very real financial and emotional pain that can be imposed by lawyers backed by folks with deep pockets or comparatively unlimited resources is very, very real.
As an outside observer it is interesting to contrast the zeal with which the powers-that-be under the Obama administration went after Flynn...with the comparatively kid-glove treatment of Hillary by essentially the same players such as Comey, Stroczk, Page, and even Andy McCabe...not to mention...dare I use this term during the pandemic...the UNMASKERS ! Samantha Power? Jeesh !
There really does seem to be two tiers of justice at play. If you are part of the “cool kids” cohort...you get immunity or no prosecution...if you are with Trump...the deep state and the swamp creatures will bend or break every rule or norm to take you out.
Absolutely Nuts – Court Appointed Amicus Prosecutor Requests: Briefing Schedule, Oral Arguments and Possible Witness Fact-Finding, in Flynn Case…
Conservative Treehouse
Posted on May 18, 2020
by sundance
This is so far outside the bounds of traditional judicial activity it is unprecedented. In the case against Michael Flynn the court appointed amicus curiae, essentially a court appointed outside lawyer enlisted to prosecute the case despite the DOJ withdrawal motion, John Gleeson has now filed a motion requesting: (1) a briefing schedule, (2) oral arguments; and (3) the possibility of interviewing witnesses.
Within Mr. Gleeson’s motion (link here) he will file his amicus brief on June 10th, and asks Judge Sullivan to set up a briefing schedule and allow him to make oral arguments.
Why would John Gleeson get the chance for a hearing to make an oral argument within the court, yet Flynn’s defense team couldn’t get a hearing scheduled on his original motion to withdraw his plea? This is ridiculous.
In the traditional sense, to the extent that traditional applications can be considered in this bizarre situation, the amicus would present a written briefing to the court for the judge to consider; and that’s it. However, Mr. Gleeson appears to be requesting his amicus status to be elevated to the position of intervening authority where he replaces the prosecution.
A request for a briefing schedule? The only purpose of Judge Sullivan allowing a briefing schedule would be to drag this case out as long as possible. Perhaps that is the goal; we shall see in his decision on this ridiculous request.
“Any additional factual development” would seem to imply Mr. Gleeson is planning to spend time investigating facts that are not currently before the court; including the possibility of Mr. Gleeson interviewing witnesses.
If Judge Emett Sullivan grants anything even close to the requests within this motion he will be operating so far outside of judicial boundaries an appellate court must intervene.
Seriously, this is Lawfare madness in the extreme.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/05/18/absolutely-nuts-court-appointed-amicus-prosecutor-requests-briefing-schedule-oral-arguments-and-possible-witness-fact-finding-in-flynn-case/#more-192037
There are two sets of laws TZ, one for club and one for the rest of us.
Kind of off topic, but in regards to Sullivan there are rumors swirling his son raped a underaged girl and Rod Rosenstein interceded. Another rumor is that Sullivan and Elijah Cummings were scamming money out of Howard University.
Badger52
05-19-2020, 19:04
“America is at that awkward stage; it's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards.” - Claire Wolfe, 1999
That was over 20 years ago. I don't think "we've finally arrived" even begins to be cover it.
:munchin
tom kelly
05-23-2020, 13:09
There are two sets of laws TZ, one for club and one for the rest of us.
Kind of off topic, but in regards to Sullivan there are rumors swirling his son raped a underaged girl and Rod Rosenstein interceded. Another rumor is that Sullivan and Elijah Cummings were scamming money out of Howard University.
Two career public officials STEALING... Whats Next ? Will the "Deep State", ever proceed to the "JFK" Solution....?
Two career public officials STEALING... Whats Next ? Will the "Deep State", ever proceed to the "JFK" Solution....?
When you consider the wacko that shot up the Republican baseball practice and the wacko that jump the fence and made it inside the Whitehouse....they may be working on that aspect of the game.
Airbornelawyer
05-23-2020, 23:56
To show how cynical I have become about all of this, literally my first thought when the FBI announced it was opening its own investigation was not "finally we may get some answers", but rather, "I bet this is just an excuse to forestall the Senate and DOJ investigations by claiming that we have to let the internal investigation run its course first."
To show how cynical I have become about all of this, literally my first thought when the FBI announced it was opening its own investigation was not "finally we may get some answers", but rather, "I bet this is just an excuse to forestall the Senate and DOJ investigations by claiming that we have to let the internal investigation run its course first."
You, sir, I believe are correct. Kick the fan until another crisis takes the focus.
Badger52
05-24-2020, 06:00
You, sir, I believe are correct. Kick the fan until another crisis takes the focus.It's a classic technique, used all the time by the entrenched. It allows them to say, repeatedly, under oath, "Senator, as you know it's our policy not to comment on the progress or findings of an ongoing investigation."
The ink cloud that obscures where the tentacles are reaching (while they selectively leak pieces of it to shape their eventual narrative). More ubiquitous than a salad bar in a casino.
I don't think so. I really believe though that the level to which the Dems will go to undermine and de-legitimize this administration might bring us to the brink of civil war and active insurrection.
Well this was a prescient comment...
Old Dog New Trick
06-10-2020, 14:16
Well this was a prescient comment...
Jeebus, when did I post that?
Ret10Echo
06-10-2020, 14:17
Jeebus, when did I post that?
02-14-2017, 12:36
Old Dog New Trick
06-10-2020, 14:25
Well, we are into the scorched earth phase right now so, the only option left is to nuke the entire site from orbit until White House is gone, it’s the only way to be sure. :p
tom kelly
06-10-2020, 15:05
The Present Administration could set the tone & send the message by Arresting for Treason, Comey, McCabe, Strzok, Page, Muller, VanGrack, Weismann,Rosenstein, Priestap, Power, Yates, Baker, Lynch, Rice and Joe Biden & BHO. a Military Tribunal with the death penalty on the table...second phase a purge of congress, The DC Beltway,
Yep! If they get away with it, it will just get much worse in the future. Much worse.
bblhead672
06-12-2020, 10:06
Quote:
“America is at that awkward stage; it's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards.” - Claire Wolfe, 1999
That was over 20 years ago. I don't think "we've finally arrived" even begins to be cover it.
So far the only ones shooting are the communists.
Badger52
06-12-2020, 16:41
The Present Administration could set the tone & send the message by Arresting for Treason, Comey, McCabe, Strzok, Page, Muller, VanGrack, Weismann,Rosenstein, Priestap, Power, Yates, Baker, Lynch, Rice and Joe Biden & BHO. a Military Tribunal with the death penalty on the table...second phase a purge of congress, The DC Beltway,I'll take that unemployment spike, with coffee and some fresh brotchen on the side.
Badger52
06-24-2020, 08:54
Developing.. (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/24/michael-flynn-trump-judge-court-case).
A federal appeals court has ordered the prosecution of former Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn to be dismissed.
In a surprise ruling, the DC circuit court of appeals overruled district judge Emmet Sullivan and has ordered him to accept the justice department’s motion to dismiss the criminal case against Flynn.
BREAKING: The US Appeals Court has GRANTED Flynn's motion to force Judge Sullivan to dismiss the case. pic.twitter.com/aZHd3PP4UH
— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) June 24, 2020
Flynn, Trump’s former national security adviser, pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI in 2017, but the justice department filed a motion last month to dismiss the criminal charges against him, prompting accusations of political bias.
Surf n Turf
06-24-2020, 20:36
Here are the articles in order.
The Judge has not tipped his hand on what he will do, but he has removed his July review from the Court docket
SnT
General Flynn Case Update – Appeals Court Orders Judge Sullivan to Dismiss Flynn Case…
The three judges on the DC Circuit Court of Appeals have approved a writ of mandamus ordering Judge Emmet Sullivan to dismiss the case against Michael Flynn.
The panel ruled 2-1, that U.S. District Judge Emmet Sullivan overstepped his authority in not accepting the unopposed motion and questioning prosecutors’ decision. This is a big victory for the Flynn defense team. Not sure what Sullivan will do now.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3858800/posts
Flynn’s Ordeal is not Over Yet
Sullivan is clearly a tool of the deep state, and we must remember why he has worked so hard to string this case out for years now when any righteous, ethical judge would have tossed it out of court in a summary judgment in 2018. Sullivan’s goal is the same as the deep state’s goal – to keep this case alive, and by extension keep Flynn from telling all he knows, until after November
https://dbdailyupdate.com/index.php/2020/06/24/despite-dc-circuit-order-to-dismiss-flynns-ordeal-is-not-over-yet/
Explosive New FBI Notes Confirm Obama Directed Anti-Flynn Operation
Handwritten notes from fired former FBI agent Peter Strzok show that Obama himself directed key aspects of the campaign to target Flynn during a Jan. 5, 2017 meeting in the Oval Office.
Newly released notes confirm President Barack Obama’s key role in surveillance and leak operation against Michael Flynn, the incoming Trump administration national security adviser. The handwritten notes, which were first disclosed in a federal court filing made by the Department of Justice on Tuesday, show President Obama himself personally directed former FBI Director James Comey and former Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates to investigate Flynn for having routine phone calls with a Russian counterpart. He also suggests they withhold information from President Trump and his key national security figures.
https://thefederalist.com/2020/06/24/explosive-new-fbi-notes-confirm-obama-directed-anti-flynn-operation/
The unfortunate part is that Flynn will end up in Monopoly jail if the democrats run the table in November.
...do not pass go, do not collect 200 dollars
Everyone saw the real democrats earlier this year and they have taken off their masks over the last few weeks.
Nancy Pelosi even went as far this week as openly accusing the GOP of murdering a counterfeiter in the streets of Minnesota.
If the democrats gain control of the government they WILL be putting their political opponents in jail.
They've already ran the IRS tax fraud gambit on their enemies - they've already tipped their hand on impeaching those they don't agree with.
They will add four more liberal activists to the new 13-Judge SCOTUS and they will put some republicans in jail...
...and Comey will be absolved of all wrong doing.
I have a time machine. I've been there. I've seen it.
I foresee (Box, you can let us know what your trip has to say about this) something along the lines of the below to be written by a couple of the Several States by the time I die...…
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,--That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."
Let's just hope this Great Country has the Thinkers to get on with the inevitable....
I foresee (Box, you can let us know what your trip has to say about this)...
"Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,--That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends..."
I don't even have to power up my machine to provide you with an answer; follow these instructions carefully...
-turn on your TV
-tune it to CNN, MSNBC, or ABC
-watch the lead stories
-turn off the TV before you become too depressed
The speaker of the house JUST THIS WEEK decided to accuse the GOP of murdering George Floyd.
her comments were so repulsive that a liberal talking head reporter called her on it, the speaker of the house stuck to her guns
That is what the democrats bring to the government...
...the GOP murdered a counterfeiter
...some people did some things
...defund the police
...the president belongs in jail
...eat your peas
No time machine is needed to see where the treasonous left is going when they regain full power of the government and if that isn't enough - just listen to where the loyalties of our camera seeking pop-culture retired GO's lean - not towards the best interests of a nation - but to the defense of their ego's and legacies
...then ask again about any form of government becoming destructive in the context of deriving power from the consent of the governed
Its a brave new world - good luck on your journey
Box - Not to be to nitpicky, but I think in the movie that predicts the current path of our future its called a "Time Masheen".
Badger52
06-25-2020, 08:38
Don't be an Eloi.
Box - Not to be to nitpicky, but I think in the movie that predicts the current path of our future its called a "Time Masheen".
I think you are talking about the documentary that chronicles the life of President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho
...that is where I got the plans for the one I have been using.
Peregrino
06-26-2020, 10:35
I think you are talking about the documentary that chronicles the life of President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho
...that is where I got the plans for the one I have been using.
The wife hated that movie; I liked it - thought it was disturbingly prophetic (probably why she hated it).
I never thought of it as prophetic - the movie showcased a dystopian world drowning in rampant commercialism driven by pleasure seekers - a society that has embraced anti-intellectualism - a society that has turned its back on intellectual curiosity, social responsibility, justice, and human rights...
...all brought to you by Carls Jr and Brawndo
No siree - that movie wasn't prophetic - it was just a low budget documentary film released a few years before President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho actually took office.
After Years Of Russia Hoax Persecutions, President Trump Finally Pardons Michael Flynn
NOVEMBER 25, 2020 By Jordan Davidson
The Federalist
President Donald Trump granted a full pardon to his former National Security Advisor Gen. Michael T. Flynn on Wednesday, just one day before Thanksgiving.
“It is my Great Honor to announce that General Michael T. Flynn has been granted a Full Pardon. Congratulations to @GenFlynn and his wonderful family, I know you will now have a truly fantastic Thanksgiving!” Trump wrote on Twitter.
https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/25/after-years-of-russia-hoax-persecutions-president-trump-finally-pardons-michael-flynn/