Trump? Sheeple? WTF

[bushmaster11]

I have spent my entire 69 years seeing Soviets in terms ranging from suspicion and distrust to actively opposing Soviet client states. Having said that, my ears perked up when Trump heralded Vladimir and company almost from day one. When he invited them to meddle in our electoral process got my hackles up.

We had an election of a commander-In-chief who Likes Putin because he spoke nice things about him. Sheeple followed the pied piper. Now it appears that 37% think nice thoughts of the soviet bear.

Our CINC has no respect or belief in our intelligence or law enforcement arms of government. He loots the financial sector without any checks and balances. This was guaranteed when he refused to provide IRS data as a candidate.

While I was disappointed by Obama's performance, I am genuinely concerned for the future I am leaving for my children, and generations to come. It will take a generation to recovery.

So I say, WTF happened? How did we go from a beacon of democracy to be emulated to almost a third world CINC.

J R sends
DOL

[Old Dog New Trick]

Try the de-caffeinated brands first, then maybe something stronger from the liquor cabinet. :D

Putin has been playing master chess for a lot longer than Obama's years of public service and it shows. You can't bring your checkers game to the room and be taken seriously. No more 'Bugs Bunny' red lines drawn in the sand, "I dare you to cross this line. No. This line..."

As far as any cordial relationship between Trump and Putin go - that's business. Hopefully in the next administration there are more win/win or win/lose propositions than the majority of lose/win gamesmanship Putin has played against Obama.

Having had a part and player in the strategic intelligence and war fighting strategy during the first Cold War I can tell you that I too have little faith in the modern day equivalent of our intelligence community from the DNI, DIA to the DCIA. Same goes for the current atmosphere of the DOJ and FBI. There is no trust at the highest levels of doing the right thing when the right thing is hard. I think and I hope I'm right that in the next year or two America can lead the world again in making the right hard decisions that foster respect and integrity in world affairs.

As far as Russia meddling in our political elections that's a time honored game of cat and mouse. Just ask Ted Kennedy. As it appears this time wouldn't have been an issue either if Clinton had been elected as they thought would happen.

[blue02hd]

Our CINC has no respect or belief in our intelligence or law enforcement arms of government. He loots the financial sector without any checks and balances. This was guaranteed when he refused to provide IRS data as a candidate.

So I say, WTF happened? How did we go from a beacon of democracy to be emulated to almost a third world CINC.

J R sends
DOL

Beacon of Democracy to third world status in merely weeks?

Hillary lost. Democratic talking points have already been rejected. It was the original Fake News story.

I personally like the fact that we have a President Elect that is unafraid to throw the Bullshit flag. Also he is a proven successful negotiator with decades of experience. I seriously doubt anyone outside of his closest advisors or family know what exactly what he does or does not respect, if you do then you have a golden ticket.

I am actually surprised that you are so fired up to defend the greater IC/ government when it is a known fact how political they have become this past decade (or two). DOJ/ FBI/ IRS/ VA/ DoE/ EPA/ NEA,,,, and even the IC itself.

I take it you have a government job?

[echoes]

Beacon of Democracy to third world status in merely weeks?

Hillary lost. Democratic talking points have already been rejected. It was the original Fake News story.

I personally like the fact that we have a President Elect that is unafraid to throw the Bullshit flag. Also he is a proven successful negotiator with decades of experience. I seriously doubt anyone outside of his closest advisors or family know what exactly what he does or does not respect, if you do then you have a golden ticket.


Very well said, Sir!!! President Elect Trump is scoring high marks so far, IMHO.


Holly

[tonyz]

Pulleeeeeeezzzzz...the Statist bastard did everything but suck off the Russian on camera...

Obama tells Russian PM "After Election I Have More Flexibilty" 3/26/2012

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4JpPU-SwcbE

[PRB]

Trump worked very hard during this election cycle and I believe his angst is directed at the lefties who want to 'blame' their loss on some outside source.

That's all.

[Team Sergeant]

Trump worked very hard during this election cycle and I believe his angst is directed at the lefties who want to 'blame' their loss on some outside source.

That's all.

Exactly.

And the left-wing progressive socialists will continue to blame everyone but themselves. And when this newest excuse fades they will go back to calling President Trump "racist" again.

[Divemaster]

Exactly.

And the left-wing progressive socialists will continue to blame everyone but themselves. And when this newest excuse fades they will go back to calling President Trump "racist" again.

And they'll keep calling Trump voters racists as well. Meanwhile, the white middle class, who resent being called names by the left, might have just realized they are this country's largest voting block.

[Old Dog New Trick]

Election fraud, incompetent criminal investigations, failed background checks and international arms trading to drug cartels, the DIA calling the Muslim Brotherhood a "Community Organizers" (James Cladder), ISIS/ISIL the "Varsity Team" and al Qeada on the run...etc...etc...

Call me when the Russians (N. Korea or China) hack the FAA or the banking sector and I'll start to worry.

The DNC being laid bare for the world to see...meh (golf clap!!!)

General/Flag Officers who sold their soul and integrity to the Klintons on the hopes of a political future - F' them and the mistress they slept with.

AG Linch (and Holder before her) and DFBI Chummy and all the rest of the cabinet secretaries and directors of alphabet land have all proven themselves incompetent at best complicit in orchestrating in the largest financial scam in US history.

Trump could be just what the founding fathers envisioned in a shrewd and decisive civilian leader and CinC. Or not! He's got four years or less to get four more and he can't be worse than the outgoing party of "transparency will be a hallmark of my administration." ROTFLMAO!!!

[Trapper John]

I have spent my entire 69 years seeing Soviets in terms ranging from suspicion and distrust to actively opposing Soviet client states. Having said that, 1.my ears perked up when Trump heralded Vladimir and company almost from day one. 2. When he invited them to meddle in our electoral process got my hackles up.

3. We had an election of a commander-In-chief who Likes Putin because he spoke nice things about him. Sheeple followed the pied piper. Now it appears that 37% think nice thoughts of the soviet bear.

4. Our CINC has no respect or belief in our intelligence or law enforcement arms of government. 5. He loots the financial sector without any checks and balances. 6. This was guaranteed when he refused to provide IRS data as a candidate.

While I was disappointed by Obama's performance, I am genuinely concerned for the future I am leaving for my children, and generations to come. It will take a generation to recovery.

So I say, WTF happened? How did we go from a beacon of democracy to be emulated to almost a third world CINC.

J R sends
DOL

So, bear with me as I unpack all of this one by one.

1. Trump's comment was a comparison of Putin as leader for Russia to Obama as a leader of U.S. I would agree that Putin is a stronger leader in that he is putting Rusian interests first. Can't say that about Obama.

2. It was a comment wrt to HRC's deleted 33,000 emails. IRC, shortly before this comment foreign gov'ts were thought to have hacked HRC's server. He made this comment sarcastically.

3. I recall the comment you are referring to. Once again you are failing to recognize humor/sarcasm.

4. Based upon what evidence?

5. Same question.

6. No requirement to release tax returns and frankly, given the complexity of the tax code, I would not release mine either. Too much opportunity for misinformation and disinformation IMO and having to explain reasoning for taking deductions or not. Trump did release detailed financial statements that are far more relevant IMO.

Frankly, Bushmaster, your entire post strikes me as a regurgitation of progressive talking points with no original thought, explanation of your point of view, or references to substantiate assertions that are mere opinions represented as fact.

Now, you have been on this forum long enough to know better. I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you are under the effects from drinking too much of the progressive kool-aid. So please, when those effects have worn off, try again. :D

[cbtengr]

I do agree with the fact that it will take us at least a generation if not longer to recover from the damage Obama has done to our nation.

[WarriorDiplomat]

[QUOTE=bushmaster11;621260]I have spent my entire 69 years seeing Soviets in terms ranging from suspicion and distrust to actively opposing Soviet client states. Having said that, my ears perked up when Trump heralded Vladimir and company almost from day one. When he invited them to meddle in our electoral process got my hackles up.

Russia was flat on its back before President Obama the greatest pied piper of all took the Presidency and by the time he and Hillary were done Russia was not only a near peer it can be argued they surpassed us with a President who has no idea what a strong military does allowed our advantages to dissipate and now we are behind. We have seen Iran, Russia and China gain significant influence while our delusional POTUS was sleeping. SO you are worried about Trump????when under Obama and Hillary's watch Russia grew into a threat again and worse they helped them...oh lets forget the money Obama gave Iran who's main export is state sponsored terror or the stupidest U.S. sponsored act that has dug us into a hole we cannot seem to get out of the fantastic Arab Spring


We had an election of a commander-In-chief who Likes Putin because he spoke nice things about him. Sheeple followed the pied piper. Now it appears that 37% think nice thoughts of the soviet bear.

Americans appreciate strength if we don't respect the strength of Putin and recognize it unlike Obama then we are asking for what we have gotten under Obama, Russians are tough stoic people accustomed to struggle like any other predator they smell weakness they take what they want. Did you really want to go to war with a depleted military both people and technologically under a weak leader like Hillary ironically she was also complicit in their becoming powerful again.

Our CINC has no respect or belief in our intelligence or law enforcement arms of government. He loots the financial sector without any checks and balances. This was guaranteed when he refused to provide IRS data as a candidate.

Funny many of us actually still serving feel the same... under Obama, intelligence took a backseat to LGBT, Women rights and Green energy. How about the CENTCOM Commander being brought before Congress become over 50 highly experienced analysts wrote an anonymous letter stating that the intelligence was false and corrupted by the many layers of GS and commanders between them and the POTUS(Command climate). Law enforcement under this administration was a group of fat under achieving woman suing the Colorado Springs Police Dept because the physical requirements of the police dept. were biased against woman forcing the city to suspend the requirement that should make americans feel safe. Or all the cop killings in which Obama refused to condemn.

While I was disappointed by Obama's performance, I am genuinely concerned for the future I am leaving for my children, and generations to come. It will take a generation to recovery.

Take hope Hillary was not allowed to finish the destruction of America Obama started and the DNC has shown its true colors where even the most liberal should be able to see their F-America agenda. The blue collar working people who have been affected by the socialism Obama started spoke in spite of a social media that would make Joseph Goebbels jealous and hollywood. Our children will inherit a job, opportunity to achieve and some form of strength under a post Trump

So I say, WTF happened? How did we go from a beacon of democracy to be emulated to almost a third world CINC.

America WE THE PEOPLE spoke at the ballot

J R sends
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A deplorable sends.

[MR2]

Good grief Bushmaster11. Way to reset your credibility back to zero.

Responses are well done guys.

[Remington Raidr]

Bushmaster11, return fire!!:rolleyes:

[Badger52]

Exactly.

And the left-wing progressive socialists will continue to blame everyone but themselves. And when this newest excuse fades they will go back to calling President Trump "racist" again.They will eat their children before admitting that anything about them is unpalatable. They are blaming their own inner circle, including Abedin (who must be really feelin' da love about now); it is only the latest. They will have more. The 360° firing squad has been cleared hot.

America needs to stop gawking & just move on to the clear traffic lanes and get to work.

[Golf1echo]

" beacon of democracy to be emulated to almost a third world CINC."

Counter point: The last 8 years have been far from a" Beacon of democracy" on the contrary we literally faced an internal threat to democracy from within by a government that actively usurped government agencies for their own political gain, a government that operated outside the established norms with more executive actions, criminal pardons, partisan appointments, attacks on opponents, policies of division, and used federal agencies like the DOE, EPA, IRS, DOJ to attack states, political groups, individuals to gain political compliance.

Hard for me to understand: Hacking has gone on for a long time now, it seems to be done by players that range from school children to state sponsored entities now, we ourselves have used it. We have created a world where even toasters are dependent on the internet. When the Democrats lost the election, the result is now the fault of the Russians and their hacks....What hacks, false news stories, information from intelligence services that have been groomed over the last 8 years to provide the information that corroborates the administrations view . I'd love to see a graph of the false news stories put out by Yahoo, Huffington, Washington Post, MSM vs any Russian activity. All one needed to do was read the comment sections connected to the articles put out by so called news agencies to see the decent of the majority but that conflicted with the narrative, their answer was to eliminate the ability to comment. It was interesting to see all the high level individuals from the IA's come forward to stump for the democratic candidate before the election, makes one wonder what is such a threat from an outsider? Most news accounts say warnings were issued as far back as Oct......seriously, think about that...it's ludicrous. A phrase from training comes to mind " Failure to Secure...", just when will information become the responsibility of the individual, HK, the DMC,the government, even all of us knows the vulnerability of email...surely. How in the world did we function before the web?

The real questions are just beginning to be asked: Why is the internet so vulnerable, national security and incredible portions of our economy are dependent on it, and what kind of a priority is this for major tech companies? I would guess that answer would surprise you and profit driven.
Why is the government this big? Why is the national debt so egregious? Why is the value of our government product so inefficient?
I notice these questions are not being asked by the current administration or their supporter, they aren't being asked by the MSM, they aren't being asked by many within the government. Sad really more of the same on their way to irrelevance. As for Russia I understand their much of their agenda is not aligned with ours but I also understand 0 and P have a personal hatred for each other, wonder how a briefer who brought an accurate and truthful briefing to the current CINC only to be rejected for politics would put it.

Did I mention how pathetic the press has become? It appears none of them have ever heard of the story " The boy who cried Wolf".