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SF-TX
09-30-2016, 14:21
Since 1973, there have been at least 53 million babies killed by Planned Parenthood. (Source (https://www.guttmacher.org/fact-sheet/induced-abortion-united-states))

Senators Celebrate Planned Parenthood’s First 100 Years

Thursday, September 29, 2016

Washington, D.C. – Senator Ron Wyden, D-Ore., today led 18 of his Senate colleagues in introducing a resolution to recognize the importance of Planned Parenthood’s contributions to women’s health care and reproductive rights in America over the last 100 years...

...“From Portland, Oregon, to Portland, Maine, this country is healthier because of Planned Parenthood,” Wyden said. “My Democratic colleagues and I are going to keep working to make sure this bedrock health provider can keep serving people for the next 100 years.”

Link (https://www.wyden.senate.gov/news/press-releases/senators-celebrate-planned-parenthoods-first-100-years)

Box
09-30-2016, 15:21
The only way liberals will ever give a shit about abortion is when they can figure out a way to count a fetus as a democratic voter.
Until then names like Clinton Obama Pelosi Reid Moore Penn Fonda et al will be perpetually associated with finer points of government funded abortions for everyone.

Patrin
09-30-2016, 17:33
...and these same bastards say we need illegal immigration to offset our falling birthrate...53 million...that about equates to the number of illegals here.

Same thing in Europe...let Muslims pour in because ze Germans aren't having babies anymore (abortions willy-nilly).

Right.

mark46th
09-30-2016, 18:41
The black community gets angry over police fatally shooting a black man but don't care about unborn black babies.

Divemaster
09-30-2016, 21:15
This has been a losing issue for Republicans and conservatives for a long time now. Any serious candidate who campaigns on banning abortion is, well, not a serious candidate. The Left owns this one. All of the arguments have been made and it doesn't matter. (HRC's infamous line about Benghazi fits here as well.) Margaret Sanger has a lasting legacy she would be proud of.

mark46th
09-30-2016, 23:48
I'm not anti-abortion. I would like to see the black community take responsibility for their actions and accept the police are not their major problem. Their real problem is their own behavior and lack of responsibility. I saw a statistic today that said from about 1870-1964 approximately 3500 lynchings took place. That is the time from the end of the Civil War to the beginning of the Civil Rights Movement... That amount is equalled every six months in the U.S. from black on black violence.

PSM
10-01-2016, 00:26
I'm not anti-abortion. I would like to see the black community take responsibility for their actions and accept the police are not their major problem. Their real problem is their own behavior and lack of responsibility. I saw a statistic today that said from about 1870-1964 approximately 3500 lynchings took place. That is the time from the end of the Civil War to the beginning of the Civil Rights Movement... That amount is equalled every six months in the U.S. from black on black violence.

You are correct, sir. I posted that info a couple of years ago. I'd point out, though, that almost a third of those where white: http://www.chesnuttarchive.org/classroom/lynchings_table_state.html so your timeline is a bit long.

Pat

Flagg
10-01-2016, 05:48
What I find ironic is that the Democrats(in general) are more likely to support the killing of fetuses/babies that if they lived would likely vote Democrat.

And that the Republicans(in general) would prefer to keep the likely to vote Democrat fetuses/babies from dying and grow up to be Democrats.

Well....at least according to Freakonomics.

SF-TX
10-01-2016, 07:31
What I find ironic is that the Democrats(in general) are more likely to support the killing of fetuses/babies that if they lived would likely vote Democrat.

And that the Republicans(in general) would prefer to keep the likely to vote Democrat fetuses/babies from dying and grow up to be Democrats.

Well....at least according to Freakonomics.

For some, it has nothing to do with what political party that baby is likely to support.

Patrin
10-01-2016, 09:41
What I find ironic is that the Democrats(in general) are more likely to support the killing of fetuses/babies that if they lived would likely vote Democrat.

And that the Republicans(in general) would prefer to keep the likely to vote Democrat fetuses/babies from dying and grow up to be Democrats.

Well....at least according to Freakonomics.

Hold on my friend.

We start thinking like that, and were no better then the commies.

Let's err on the side of life for 'life', rather than the political aspirations of the unborn.

That's who we are.

Flagg
10-01-2016, 17:01
For some, it has nothing to do with what political party that baby is likely to support.

Agreed. But it's a bit of an anomaly coming from politicians.

I wonder how much a factor the multi decade "long tail" until these unborn kids vote plays into the decision making process of Politicians unable to look beyond the next election?

Flagg
10-01-2016, 17:40
Hold on my friend.

We start thinking like that, and were no better then the commies.

Let's err on the side of life for 'life', rather than the political aspirations of the unborn.

That's who we are.

I would like to think so.

But the cynic in me tends to think the inability of politicians to look beyond the next election plays a factor.

While my family and I are personally opposed to abortion, and not thrilled with the ease with which abortions can be performed, I can't say I'm disappointed in the associated lower correlation/causation crime rates(as per Freakonomics), as well as the reduced number of future political/ideological enemies.

I can't help but think of it along the lines of Stalin's quote of "one death is a tragedy, one million is a statistic".

Not that I'm a fan of Stalin or Mao. They rank up their equal 1st with Hitler. They slaughtered their own people by the millions which would surely have had strategic and negative human capital implications on any expansionist plans or effort to undermine/subvert the West.

I often read posts here, and elsewhere, about increasing risks to the US Republic and other western partners/institutions.

I don't see how a significant reduction in abortions and comparable increase in live births with the majority amongst the cohorts on the extreme opposite end of the political spectrum is anything but a recipe for accelerated disaster for the Republic.

I know that's a bit cold, clinical, and Machiavllian, but if self declared enemies(foreign or domestic is irrelevant to me) want to destroy their own future human capital that will be indoctrinated and deployed against my children in 20,30,40 years time......I'm certainly not going to stand in the way of them destroying themselves.

In fact, I'd chip in to pay for the neon arrow as well as incentivise them to not have any more children who are raised to be the enemies of mine.

I know this is a sensitive topic on this forum for many. No offence is intended.

But I personally find this a bit incongruent with the other major strategic multi-decade and truly long view UW themes found on this forum.

Box
10-03-2016, 08:24
...one would like to "think" that "we" as a nation are better than that.


But seriously, are we?

As the last 8 years have turned the corner on the entire spectrum of social issues I have no solid observation that convinces me that we still posses anything that resembles a moral national conscience any more.

it's moral for colon klapernich to disrespect the nation anthem
...but its also moral to ridicule tim tebow for taking a knee to say a prayer
Our national awareness has treated one of these two examples as a hero and the other as a freak

And "we" seem to be ok with that on a nation level
bullshit stuckey... not only are we "no better than the commies" - we are far worse than the commies. They don't pretend to hide who they really are.
we are a nation of hypocrites - nothing more nothing less


just my two cents, I could be wrong

sfshooter
10-03-2016, 18:56
Well stated Billy L-bach. I have come to the conclusion our country no longer has morals (other than those of us who appreciate morality). I pondered this for some time this year and after a conversation with an acquaintance (ok it turned into quite a debate) who is liberal and loves socialism. His comment that set me off was that he thought there was too much religion in our constitution and with the Republican, Conservative bunch.
Religion is the basis for our morality, whether we all practice it or not, it was also the basis for our founding documents. I reminded said socialist acquaintance that the pilgrims came to this country to escape religious persecution. Didn't matter to him.
The reason the left attacks our morals and forces their immoral ways and attitudes on us (and this country) is to destroy our belief system. Once that is done then they win and the constitution can be configured to their doctrine or just burned.........!!

mark46th
10-04-2016, 08:29
Judging from the recent lack of action by James Comey of the FBI and the illegal actions of Lois Lerner of the IRS, I would say we have become a third world country...

Box
10-04-2016, 11:34
bread... welfare
circuses... colon kapernitch and SJW news reports


...we have plenty of both which is enough to keep the peasantry in line