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Tex
01-10-2005, 22:50
It looks as though I'm probably going to get a slot in Jump School this summer, and as I am merely a cadet at VMI, this will be my first experience with Army training. I noticed that in the Ft. Benning website, they say that the running is 3-5 miles at a 9-10 minute pace, which seems a little underwhelming. In any event, I was looking for any words of wisdom with respect to JS, be they the physical or mental aspects of it. Thanks for the help.

QRQ 30
01-10-2005, 22:51
Stay "invisible". Once they get your number the fun begins! :D

CPTAUSRET
01-10-2005, 23:03
Stay "invisible". Once they get your number the fun begins! :D

Great advice!

Be the grey man.

Terry

12B4S
01-10-2005, 23:08
K TEX.. digging back again.
1. DO NOT pull your reserve while standing in the door!!!
( Yeah, sounds ridiculous, but while waiting to board our aircraft, I saw a guy do just that :eek: )
Now for the general training that I remember most (it was June or July '69) the running isn't that bad as long as you have been running, which I know at VMI you are. They LOVE dropping you for pushups. Tons of pushups. and Chinning yourself they were big on that.
DON"T go in June or July lol
And be very nice to the Black Hats, unless you had happened to have spent Freshman year of college with him. :D

Jack Moroney (RIP)
01-11-2005, 06:31
Physically this is an easy school. There will be complications with the heat during the time you are going so make sure you stay hydrated and eat well. Follow the instructions of the black hats. If you have never jumped before, I can almost guarantee that the first thoughts out of your brain housing group while you are checking your canopy to make sure it opened during you first jump will be to thank whatever deity you believe in and make some silly promise that you will never sin again. Of course, that will be a lie but you will feel better.

That is the good news. The bad news is that the parachute you are using was bought under the Federal Aquisition Regulations which required that the company that got the contract to make it went to the lowest bidder. :)

Jack Moroney

Kyobanim
01-11-2005, 06:34
don't look down :eek:

scubasam
01-11-2005, 08:35
Hey Tex... You need to look into dive school.. you still got time to prep!!!...

P.S. I's VMI '02

Guy
01-11-2005, 09:28
I can almost guarantee that the first thoughts out of your brain housing group while you are checking your canopy to make sure it opened during you first jump will be to thank whatever deity you believe in and make some silly promise that you will never sin again. Of course, that will be a lie but you will feel better.

Jack Moroney

And if you don't believe in a higher being...Mothers are great substitutes.

QRQ 30
01-11-2005, 09:46
Hey Tex... You need to look into dive school.. you still got time to prep!!!...

P.S. I's VMI '02

What Dive school would that be -- Belvoir?

Tex do all of the prep, and studying you can but take this to the bank; When you go to any Military School you are best off if you "Don't know nuttin." I have spent a fair amount of time as a UWO instructor and the hardest job is un-training those who already know it all. They bring a lot of extra attention upon themselves.
:lifter

Team Sergeant
01-11-2005, 09:55
Team Sergeant’s Jump School advice:

1. Don’t go and get a haircut just to appease the Blackhats. When I left Infantry school my Drill Sergeant pulled the six of us aside that were going to attend Jump school and told us that our haircuts were just fine and the Blackhats were just being bullies. Needless to say, we went to Jump school with “long” hair.

2. Do go and get that “AIRBORNE” tattoo, complete with jump wings, BEFORE you attend jump school. This will set the tone and give notice to your instructors that you mean business and under no circumstances do you intend to quit. In fact it’s customary show the “tat” to the Airborne school 1st Sgt when reporting in to Jump School.

3. If the Airborne PT is not demanding enough that let your Blackhats know. They don’t want you or your class to be the first “easy” class, so inform them they might be setting the PT standards too low. While attending jump school the term “YOU CAN’T SMOKE ME” cannot be used enough

4. Do go and purchase the Airborne, Red Beret. Keep it in your pocket as a sign of your commitment to becoming an Airborne soldier, show it to all your classmates, and don’t forget the also show the Blackhats.

5. On your first day/night off do go to town and throw down a few with your Airborne classmates. Find out where the Rangers like to “kick up their heels” and throw down a few with them, remember to proudly display your “tat” whenever indulging with fellow Airborne soldiers. If you fail to locate the Army Rangers for a friendly round of drinks then the Navy SEALS in your class would be another great group of chaps to go out knock back a few with.

Enjoy!

AIRBORNE!!!!!!

CPTAUSRET
01-11-2005, 09:58
Team Sergeant’s Jump School advice:

1. Don’t go and get a haircut just to appease the Blackhats. When I left Infantry school my Drill Sergeant pulled the six of us aside that were going to attend Jump school and told us that our haircuts were just fine and the Blackhats were just being bullies. Needless to say, we went to Jump school with “long” hair.

2. Do go and get that “AIRBORNE” tattoo, complete with jump wings, BEFORE you attend jump school. This will set the tone and give notice to your instructors that you mean business and under no circumstances do you intend to quit. In fact it’s customary show the “tat” to the Airborne school 1st Sgt when reporting in to Jump School.

3. If the Airborne PT is not demanding enough that let your Blackhats know. They don’t want you or your class to be the first “easy” class, so inform them they might be setting the PT standards too low. While attending jump school the term “YOU CAN’T SMOKE ME” cannot be used enough

4. Do go and purchase the Airborne, Red Beret. Keep it in your pocket as a sign of your commitment to becoming an Airborne soldier, show it to all your classmates, and don’t forget the also show the Blackhats.

5. On your first day/night off do go to town and throw down a few with your Airborne classmates. Find out where the Rangers like to “kick up their heels” and throw down a few with them, remember to proudly display your “tat” whenever indulging with fellow Airborne soldiers. If you fail to locate the Army Rangers for a friendly round of drinks then the Navy SEALS in your class would be another great group of chaps to go out knock back a few with.

Enjoy!

AIRBORNE!!!!!!

CLASSIC!!!

Terry

QRQ 30
01-11-2005, 10:03
Be careful TS. You may be prosecuted for man slaughter!! :D

brownapple
01-11-2005, 10:13
It looks as though I'm probably going to get a slot in Jump School this summer, and as I am merely a cadet at VMI, this will be my first experience with Army training. I noticed that in the Ft. Benning website, they say that the running is 3-5 miles at a 9-10 minute pace, which seems a little underwhelming. In any event, I was looking for any words of wisdom with respect to JS, be they the physical or mental aspects of it. Thanks for the help.


STFU
Do what the blackhats say
Don't quit
Hit the hole
Keep your feet and knees together

scubasam
01-11-2005, 10:19
QRQ.... Went to Key West.

I love the advice!.. though you forgot it gets really sunny down there and Oakley's are a definite to keep you're eyes in good shape.

12B4S
01-11-2005, 18:49
LOL.... yeah I remember a couple guys that showed up at jump school with Airborne tats.
Um, is there a way to play a wav file on here? I have a taps.wav.

NousDefionsDoc
01-11-2005, 20:08
Tex,
Don't worry about BAT. If a door bundle can do it, it's a fairly safe bet even a cadet can.

What happens if you college boys go to all these Army schools then flunk out of college?

scubasam, what "dive school" did you attend in Key West?

scubasam
01-11-2005, 22:24
NousDefionsDoc...

PM inbound

TerribleTobyt
01-17-2005, 22:08
Sure, sure, all that advice is important.

But you MUST be able to master this;


http://vladiks.com/Misc/parachute.swf

Good luck!!!!!!

;)

Toby

SP5IC
01-18-2005, 18:32
They like BPS, badge producing schools. At VMI, you can go to jump school, Air Assault School and SCUBA. You have to be contracted, so a few go between their 3rd Class and 2nd Class years (sophomore & junior), and some do it between their junior & senior years, but they also have "camp" at FT Lewis before their senior year, and in my son's case part of a summer in Germany.

504PIR
01-18-2005, 21:07
I do not see the point in sending all these guys and gals to jump school. For the past 20 some years the watered that course down to a joke. PT standards have lowered, run times slowed down to 9 min miles, the gig pit removed. Most wil never serve in an airborne slot. When I was in the 82nd we would get Pvts straught from jump school who were freaking out of shape. Just annoys the hell out of me. WHY?

So the Army will have another recuriting tool, so more clowns can have something to sew on their BDUs and feel like a hero. Does the army really need another jump-qualified finance clerk?

Why not make it harder, really teach how to rig their equipment, add stuff like H2H . Combine it with Air Assault school the way they did glider training in the 40's.

It would warm the cocklels of my heart to hear a Blackhat say, "Listen up, we have too many studs in this class, we are doing PT until XX quit."

Its late,I'm ranting and thats my .02

NousDefionsDoc
01-18-2005, 21:10
I'm with ya Brother.





What's a cocklel?

Ambush Master
01-18-2005, 21:18
What's a cocklel?

Actually cockle.

From the Latin Coclea, winding cavity like a snail = one's deapest feelings or emotions.

NousDefionsDoc
01-18-2005, 21:21
I swear between you and AL, I'm gettin' a Harvard edumacashun here. :)

The Reaper
01-18-2005, 21:58
Well, I guess that you really don't want to hear how many went to CDQC school last year as cadets, or SFAS, where they took slots for the summer classes from kids who needed them.

TR

12B4S
01-18-2005, 22:49
And to think I left after 2 years of college to go to Jump School and SFTG. What was I thinkin'? :rolleyes:
Oh! I know. Back then, those that went to Jump School, were there simply because they were going to an Airborne unit, SFTG, Rangers, Seals, ect. Where, being jump qualified was a prerequisite. Possibility, there may have been an Officer there, perhaps looking to pad his resume' or fill a space on his Dress Greens. Don't remember talking to any that were though.

Reaper, I'm not even sure I want to hear the details of what you just touched on.
WTH is going on? Never mind, dumb question.