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LarryW
07-31-2016, 17:22
...so, time for a bake sale.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/koch-network-refusing-to-help-trump/ar-BBv3Xhw?ocid=ansmsnnews11

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. — From a luxury hotel on the edge of the Rocky Mountains, some of the nation's most powerful Republican donors are rebelling against Donald Trump.

Billionaire industrialist Charles Koch, host of the exclusive weekend retreat, did not mention Trump by name as warned that political leaders are giving "frightening" answers to America's challenges. One of his chief lieutenants was more direct as he made clear that Koch's expansive political network would not use its tremendous resources to help Trump win this fall.

"We're focused on the Senate," said Mark Holden, general counsel and senior vice president of Koch Industries.

He noted that none of the presidential candidates are aligned with the Koch network "from a values, and beliefs and policy perspective." Trump's dire warnings of growing crime in America, Holden said, simply aren't accurate.

"We're much safer," Holden said. "That's what the data shows."

Koch described the 2016 "political situation" this way: "We don't really, in some cases, don't really have good options."

Divemaster
07-31-2016, 18:39
But saying he would vote for Hillary is a "blood libel".

http://on.wsj.com/2aHrtW1

cbtengr
07-31-2016, 19:38
What will the DNC do with all those commercials they already filmed touting the evil evil Koch Brothers supporting the Donald?

abc_123
07-31-2016, 21:16
So, do you mean that the Koch brothers don't think that they can own Trump with their money? Trump is such a douche. He is the candidate of hate. He hates everybody. Even those simply want him do do what they want in return for their big donation.

Team Sergeant
08-01-2016, 08:33
So, do you mean that the Koch brothers don't think that they can own Trump with their money? Trump is such a douche. He is the candidate of hate. He hates everybody. Even those simply want him do do what they want in return for their big donation.

We might be related? :munchin

Streck-Fu
08-01-2016, 08:40
Politically, I am surprised they did throw luke warm support for Johnson.

BuckiBill
08-01-2016, 10:25
I hate everybody also. I guess Trump gets my vote.

The Reaper
08-01-2016, 10:29
I am not voting for Trump, I am voting for the best chance against Hitlary.

TR

PRB
08-01-2016, 12:42
The Koch bros. know they'll get nothing for their 'investment'....the normal quid pro quo of the average billionaires 'donation'.

abc_123
08-01-2016, 17:49
The Koch bros. know they'll get nothing for their 'investment'....the normal quid pro quo of the average billionaires 'donation'.

PRB. Exactly. That's what I tried to insinuate (but did a poor job).

Chucko
08-04-2016, 17:55
I am beginning to think that any Democrat politician and even now Repub politicians are out for what they can personally get out of the system and couldn't care less about what America really needs.

I can see Dem. pounding on Trump, but I think Repubs are doing more damage than the Dems. Of course Trump is doing enough damage all by himself.

Rock on Trump.:lifter

Sohei
08-04-2016, 18:12
I am beginning to think that any Democrat politician and even now Repub politicians are out for what they can personally get out of the system and couldn't care less about what America really needs.

I can see Dem. pounding on Trump, but I think Repubs are doing more damage than the Dems. Of course Trump is doing enough damage all by himself.

Rock on Trump.:lifter

Politics is no longer a position people seek for the "betterment" of society. It is now sought after as a "career" with life-long benefits. As such, they do what they have to do to keep their job as long as they can for their sake and not ours.

Mills
08-04-2016, 22:12
I am not voting for Trump, I am voting for the best chance against Hitlary.

TR

We had the best chance at Hillary.

He was slandered by a supermarket tabloid.

Trump can't open his mouth without putting his foot in it. If we really wanted him to stay on message and actually beat that pants suit wearing hatchet wound............we wouldn't be so complicit to "get on board". We would continue to be critical in order to move him in the right direction. Not let him do whatever the fuck he wants whilst being guided by Gerald Fords delegate whip and russian lobbyist Paul "establishment" manafort.

Meanwhile, we ignored a former solicitor general of Texas who would have actually focused on the issues and DESTROYED her over this email garbage. Any 18F would burn in the bottemless pit of hell if they did a fraction of what this cunt did, yet...............The Trumpster fire would still rather attack Ted Cruz after being nominated.

Seriously.........burn it down. Burn it all the fuck down.

No offense......just disgusted to know that my fucking Team Sergeant time will happen to fall in line with this cunts presidency and lack thereof leadership.

I would be happy to throw my support behind Trump.

If he gave me a reason to.

abc_123
08-06-2016, 22:21
So, who's going to, " burn it down," if not Trump?


it's all good. Don't like Trump due to your principles? Sit it out or vote independent... And don't feel bad when Hillary is elected and 3 liberal Supreme Court Justices are elected.

Seriously. Stand up. Be proud.

pcfixer
08-07-2016, 12:01
So, who's going to, " burn it down," if not Trump?


it's all good. Don't like Trump due to your principles? Sit it out or vote independent... And don't feel bad when Hillary is elected and 3 liberal Supreme Court Justices are elected.

Seriously. Stand up. Be proud.

:D Agreed! If you can't stand for liberty, justice and the FLAG, what else? :lifter

Mills
08-08-2016, 06:23
Want a reason to vote for Trump? He is not Hillary. I am not voting for Trump I am voting against Hillary. Reality is we have two real choices as much as I think Trump is a prick I think Hillary is worse and agree with every foul word you stated above and more.

Would have could have should have does not matter. What does matter it out realistic choices now. I don't want to vote for Trump I just see it a the lesser of two evils.

I must have missed something.

Is tomorrow November 8th?

You guys have fun on the Trump train, in the meantime I will continue to look for reasons to vote for a candidate who is focused on protectionism versus our own government inefficiency, partial birth abortion, federally mandated minimum wages, women integrated into combat arms, men in womens bathrooms and federal land grabs from states.

We need to consider the fact that maybe this dude turned into a dumpster fire due to people NOT being critical of his positions and policies. Now we are trying to steer the plane with no tail rudder.

Pete
08-08-2016, 09:19
....We need to consider the fact that maybe this dude turned into a dumpster fire due to people NOT being critical of his positions and policies. Now we are trying to steer the plane with no tail rudder.

So, do you believe he had a mother and baby thrown out of one of his rallies?

Streck-Fu
08-08-2016, 10:05
You guys have fun on the Trump train, in the meantime I will continue to look for reasons to vote for a candidate who is focused on protectionism versus our own government inefficiency, partial birth abortion, federally mandated minimum wages, women integrated into combat arms, men in womens bathrooms and federal land grabs from states.


Which candidate is that?

bblhead672
08-08-2016, 10:09
Politics is no longer a position people seek for the "betterment" of society. It is now sought after as a "career" with life-long benefits. As such, they do what they have to do to keep their job as long as they can for their sake and not ours.

Where did I put that "reset" button? It's definitely time for a reset.

PSM
08-08-2016, 10:31
You guys have fun on the Trump train,

Remember, the Ds will rubber stamp anything that the Hildebeast proposes and will block anything that Trump proposes. The Demons will block anything that Trump proposes...and so will most of the Repubics. Gridlock is good. This runaway government train must be stopped.

Pat

doctom54
08-08-2016, 11:09
Remember, the Ds will rubber stamp anything that the Hildebeast proposes and will block anything that Trump proposes. The Demons will block anything that Trump proposes...and so will most of the Repubics. Gridlock is good. This runaway government train must be stopped.

Pat

I concur

Streck-Fu
08-08-2016, 11:34
Remember, the Ds will rubber stamp anything that the Hildebeast proposes and will block anything that Trump proposes. The Demons will block anything that Trump proposes...and so will most of the Repubics. Gridlock is good. This runaway government train must be stopped.

Pat

Welcome to the Supreme Court Justice Obama. Sorry the UN angle didn't work but we think you'll be happy here. Here are all the 2nd Amendment related cases you wanted approved for review before the court......

Mills
08-08-2016, 14:46
Remember, the Ds will rubber stamp anything that the Hildebeast proposes and will block anything that Trump proposes. The Demons will block anything that Trump proposes...and so will most of the Repubics. Gridlock is good. This runaway government train must be stopped.

Pat

I think all conservatives and republicans alike can agree.

But just jumping on board this train carrying a dumpster fire as is, is doing nothing more than being a bunch of enablers.