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Divemaster
07-24-2016, 15:53
There has been an explosion at a restaurant in Ansbach with at least one fatality. Early reports indicate a gas explosion, but not confirmed. For now this is not for the terrorism thread. For now.
Divemaster
07-24-2016, 16:08
Site of the explosion translates, center of the map, I believe, to Eugene's Wine Bar (I don't speak or read German). Again, the early reports say it was a gas explosion. However, a nearby festival has been evacuated.
Hopefully there is nothing to see here.
ETA: Sky News also reporting "Eugene's Wine Bar" as the site. http://news.sky.com/story/one-dead-after-explosion-at-german-restaurant-10511772
I liked that town. That's where I went to PNCOC or BNCOC. Maybe both.
Prayers out
Divemaster
07-24-2016, 16:48
Hearing some very interesting but UNCONFIRMED reports. Holding off on posting about it until I get some more solid sources.
Divemaster
07-24-2016, 17:16
The mayor of Ansbach has said it was an explosive device. The earlier reports I was hearing was that the Bavarian state minister was enroute from Berlin and that the armed police response was extremely heave, both contraindicating a simple gas explosion.
http://bit.ly/2a4gIgH
Divemaster
07-24-2016, 17:53
Indicators of a suicide bombing appearing.
The Associated Press @AP 6m6 minutes ago
BREAKING: Police say man, a likely attacker, dies in explosion in southern Germany; 10 others injured.
Divemaster
07-24-2016, 18:04
BBC News covering the bombing now. Ch. 346 for DirecTV customers.
Confirmations trickling in...
Blast in German city of Ansbach that killed one 'caused by explosive device'
Telegraph
25 JULY 2016 • 12:11AM
Chiara Palazzo
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/24/one-dead-and-ten-injured-after-restaurant-blast-in-german-city-o/
Divemaster
07-24-2016, 18:33
Currently looking at 1 dead (bomber?), 11 wounded, over 2,000 evacuated from a music festival.
http://bit.ly/2a8KoEb
01:02, UK, Monday 25 July 2016
At least one person has been killed in an explosion outside a wine bar in the German city of Ansbach near Nuremberg.
Bavaria's interior ministry has said that the explosion was not an accident, adding: "We assume it was deliberate."
Detectives believe that the man who died was likely to have been the attacker, who may have been carrying the explosive device.
According to Suddeutsche Zeitung, the explosion happened in front of the wine bar - not far from the entrance of a music festival.
More than 2,000 people were evacuated from that event, which has now been cancelled.
A large-scale operation involving police and rescue workers is under way, and a helicopter has been summoned to the scene.
Joachim Herrmann, Germany's interior minister, has left Berlin for the city, and a nearby music festival has been cancelled.
Low body count for a suicide bomber...less the bomb was somehow defective. Then, again, from your reports DM, may be too early for a final tally.
Germany is heating up.
Divemaster
07-24-2016, 19:44
Bavarian Interior Minister Herrmann has said the suicide bomber was a 27-year old Syrian national who first tried to enter the music festival.
Bavarian Interior Minister Herrmann has said the suicide bomber was a 27-year old Syrian national who first tried to enter the music festival.
That's the first thing I thought of as this story was breaking.
He was wanting to detonate it inside the festival grounds.
Syrian asylum seeker blows himself up outside wine bar
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/692793/Ansbach-explosion-Nuremberg-Germany-Blast
"The attack took place in Ansbach, near Nuremburg, after the 27-year-old was denied access to the nearby Ansbach Open music festival, according to Germany's interior minister Joachim Herrmann.
Herrmann said the suspect, who was known to police, had lived in Germany for two years but was denied asylum in the country a year ago....."
Badger52
07-25-2016, 06:57
...the suspect, who was known to police...Gosh, sir, I've never seen that phrase.
:cool:
Divemaster
07-25-2016, 09:19
Anyone shocked by this?
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36882831
Ansbach explosion: Bomber pledged allegiance to IS
The Syrian man who blew himself up in Ansbach, Germany, on Sunday made a video pledging allegiance to the leader of so-called Islamic State, Bavaria's interior minister says.
Joachim Hermann said two phones, multiple SIM cards and a laptop were found with the body of the 27-year-old asylum seeker or at his accommodation.
The man threatened a "revenge attack" on Germans in the video, he said.
IS has claimed it was behind the attack and the Syrian was an IS "soldier".
Fifteen people were injured, four of them seriously, when the man's explosive device went off close to a music festival in the small town, which is near Nuremberg.
The attacker announced in the video "in the name of Allah that he pledged allegiance to [IS chief] Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi... and announced an act of revenge against Germans because they were standing in the way of Islam," Mr Hermann said.
Germany was already reeling after five people were wounded on a train in another part of Bavaria a week ago by an axe-wielding teenager from Afghanistan who had pledged allegiance to IS.
On Friday nine people were killed by a teenage gunman in the state capital, Munich, who then shot himself dead. That incident was not believed to be jihadist-inspired.
eine_frau
07-25-2016, 09:50
you beat me to it Divemaster
ddoering suggested in the "another incident in Germany" thread that they would attempt to cover up if a refugee turned terrorist.
I thought that was pretty unlikely.
People were not wondering if, but when Islamist terrorism would come to Germany.
You could tell by the response to Munich that the government and police were ready for it.
I am really curious how people will react...
Divemaster
07-25-2016, 09:55
you beat me to it Divemaster
ddoering suggested in the "another incident in Germany" thread that they would attempt to cover up if a refugee turned terrorist.
I thought that was pretty unlikely.
People were not wondering if, but when Islamist terrorism would come to Germany.
You could tell by the response to Munich that the government and police were ready for it.
I am really curious how people will react...
Please feel free to keep us updated on what local media is saying.
frostfire
07-25-2016, 10:17
unchecked mass immigration of a disenfranchised, entitled population known not to assimilate who clings to an ideology that justifies countless abuse.....
oh, what can possibly go wrong! :mad:
...and to think I still want to take my dad to visit good 'ol Deutschland to a nice Konzerthaus. I better hurry
Political Correctness is a self inflected mental illness: In the '50s we were saying that the Soviets were sending in assassins and saboteurs and they were saying, "No we're not." Today, ISIS is saying, "We're sending in assassins and saboteurs," and the PC West is saying, "No you're not."
Pat
Badger52
07-25-2016, 11:21
Political Correctness is a self inflected mental illness: In the '50s we were saying that the Soviets were sending in assassins and saboteurs and they were say, "No we're not." Today, ISIS is saying, "We're sending in assassins and saboteurs," and the PC West is saying, "No you're not."
PatThat's masthead material right there.
eine_frau
07-25-2016, 12:36
Political Correctness is a self inflected mental illness: In the '50s we were saying that the Soviets were sending in assassins and saboteurs and they were say, "No we're not." Today, ISIS is saying, "We're sending in assassins and saboteurs," and the PC West is saying, "No you're not."
Pat
That is making part of me cringe because like most half way educated, middle class Germans I was very much raised to be PC.
The other part of me thinks you nailed it...
At my work the Germans are by far outnumbered by people "with a migration background". It used to be funny how all of them immediately opposed Germany letting in all those refugees. They were literally joking "we are in, you can close the borders"
My generation was still raised to apologize for Nazi Germany. Nobody want's to be associated with the "Ausländer raus" (out with the foreigners) -crowd.
You would only hear that from the Neonazis.
The well integrated foreigners here have no such qualms
Badger52
07-25-2016, 13:08
My generation was still raised to apologize for Nazi Germany. Nobody want's to be associated with the "Ausländer raus" (out with the foreigners) -crowd.
You would only hear that from the Neonazis.It's important to not allow others to put you in a "pigeon-hole" for things you cannot apologize for - any thinking person understands the difference. As I told a black person recently who tried to play his race card with me, "Look, I never owned slaves & you never got whipped picking cotton, so get over it and then we'll have a conversation." Such tactics are done by people who want to control others - insist they make the distinctions that are needed. Otherwise, they are not worth your time.
:)
eine_frau
07-25-2016, 13:51
I personally think the whole "willkommenskultur" thing Merkel did was a genuine attempt to help those people that were on the move and in no mans land back then.
What she ended up doing was to behave like a naïve teenager who is posting a Facebook invite to a really cool party. And then ends up surprised, that besides the people she wanted to be there, the crowd that showed up didn't only crash the party, but trashed the whole neighborhood in the process
Oldrotorhead
07-25-2016, 14:23
Political Correctness is a self inflected mental illness: In the '50s we were saying that the Soviets were sending in assassins and saboteurs and they were say, "No we're not." Today, ISIS is saying, "We're sending in assassins and saboteurs," and the PC West is saying, "No you're not."
Pat
I think in THIS case he bomber was just upset because he was not allowed entry to the Music Concert to hear Allah and the Sheep Shaggers play live. He really only wanted to play percussionist. Just one note!
eine_frau
07-27-2016, 14:46
I have not been able to find an English source, but several news media are reporting that there is evidence that the attack was organized. The attacker appears to have had help to get out of Bulgaria, large amounts of money were retrieved and he was getting directions through text message right up until the attack.
I think that is the scenario that people were afraid of, ISIS sending fighters/terrorists along with the refugees.
The misguided young mental health patient narrative won't hold here I assume
Divemaster
07-27-2016, 15:07
I have not been able to find an English source, but several news media are reporting that there is evidence that the attack was organized. The attacker appears to have had help to get out of Bulgaria, large amounts of money were retrieved and he was getting directions through text message right up until the attack.
I think that is the scenario that people were afraid of, ISIS sending fighters/terrorists along with the refugees.
The misguided young mental health patient narrative won't hold here I assume
ISIS, ISIL, Daesh, whatever, told us that is EXACTLY what they are going to do, are doing, and will continue to do. When your mortal enemy announces his plans, only those who actually believe hope is a strategy do not listen.
When that enemy's announced plans come to fruition, only those with a death wish continue to ignore reality.
(1VB)compforce
07-27-2016, 15:27
ISIS, ISIL, Daesh, whatever, told us that is EXACTLY what they are going to do, are doing, and will continue to do. When your mortal enemy announces his plans only those who actually believe hope is a strategy do not listen.
When that enemy's announced plans come to fruition, only those with a death wish continue to ignore reality.
They certainly listened to us when our President announced the date we would be "leaving" Afghanistan...
When your mortal enemy announces his plans only those who actually believe hope is a strategy do not listen.
When that enemy's announced plans come to fruition, only those with a death wish continue to ignore reality.
Boom.