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Old Dog New Trick
07-14-2016, 16:30
Here we go again, well at least here the French go again.

Truck drives through two to three miles of Bastille Day celebrations before exiting truck and shooting people.

Suspect is dead, shot by police.

I heard 60 from live Sky News reports.

BREAKING NEWS: At least 30 dead, 100 injured after truck smashes into Bastille Day crowd in Nice, France
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/07/14/truck-reportedly-drives-into-crowd-following-bastille-day-fireworks-in-france.html

Nice official: Probably 30 people killed when truck runs through crowd
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/14/europe/nice-france-truck/index.html

Ban large trucks with Muslim drivers now, clearly they are dangerous!

Old Dog New Trick
07-14-2016, 17:00
Watching Sky News live right now. What a mess!

At least the French are not afraid to call Islamic terrorism, Islamic Terrorism!

Last reporter said the suspect was being watched by police, guess he wasn't being watched close enough.

Sad night for France on Bastille Day.

The people were leaving a fireworks show along the beach promenade.

Police were right there but not before lots of damage and death were done.

ETA: Death toll rises- more than 70 now

Many guns and hand-grenades found in truck.

PSM
07-14-2016, 17:27
Very graphic video: https://twitter.com/NewsThisSecond/status/753708818119397377?lang=en

Pat

Divemaster
07-14-2016, 17:29
I've got Sky News (http://news.sky.com/watch-live) and CNN both going. 73 dead so far according to multiple sources. Even though there was shooting from the truck, this is very encouraging news for any instant jihadi who can only get a hold of a truck. Just saw some video, that truck was hauling ass.

Divemaster
07-14-2016, 17:38
http://news.sky.com/story/nice-witness-truck-driver-came-out-shooting-10502107

France: Truck Driver 'Came Out Shooting'
An eyewitness to the Nice attack has said he saw a truck driver slam a vehicle into a crowd of revellers and then emerge from the vehicle shooting.

Wassim Bouhlel said: "There was carnage on the road. Bodies everywhere."

Dozens of people are thought to have been killed around the city's Palais de la Mediterranee, a building that fronts the beach.

Eyewitnesses have described it as a deliberate attack, with a local official quoted as saying the driver travelled at high speed for more than 100 metres along the famed Promenade des Anglais seafront before hitting spectators.

Another witness told i-Tele: "We almost died. It was like hallucinating... (the lorry) zigzagged - you had no idea where it was going. My wife ... a metre away ... she was dead.

"The lorry ripped through everything ... poles, trees.

"We have never seen anything like it. Some people were hanging on the door and tried to stop it."

A reporter for the AFP news agency described seeing a white truck driving at high speed onto the famed Promenade des Anglais as people were celebrating the annual Bastille Day national holiday.

"We saw people hit and bits of debris flying around," he said, adding that the incident took place near the city's famed Hotel Negresco.

Terrified people screamed as they fled the area. "It was absolute chaos," he said.

Witness Tony Molina watched the chaos unfold from his hotel room on the promenade.

He told CNN: "There was still a crowd of people and then you just see this big white panel truck, I couldn't see the driver, but it just kept going at different angles from left to right at 25 to 30 miles and hour.

"People were screaming and running. There are still people I am looking at right now that are near their deceased family members.

"I work in homicide and I've never seen anything like this. It's unbelievable."

Sylvie Toffin, a local authority press officer, said the lorry "hit several people on a long trip" down the pavement.

Ms Toffin said that "to my knowledge" there was no gunfire and that the incident was deliberate.

"It's an attack," she said, adding she did not have casualty figures.

Another journalist at the scene said: "People are running. It's panic. The lorry mounted the Prom - he drove over everyone.

"Everyone is bleeding - there are loads of people injured, without doubt."

One woman told France Info she and others had fled in terror.

"The lorry came zig-zagging along the street," she said.

"We ran into a hotel and hid in the toilets with lots of people."

Another woman told the station she was sheltering in a restaurant on the promenade with some 200 other people, where things had calmed down about two hours after the incident.

Sohei
07-14-2016, 17:48
What a devil!

Old Dog New Trick
07-14-2016, 17:53
I really hope to see the French take an extreme hard stance after this. Time to crack down on liberal rules and open borders.

-Mass deportations
-Immediate firings and revocation of CDLs
-Frexit (Like Brexit only French)
-Mass arrest of any and all current suspected terrorists in country

PSM
07-14-2016, 17:58
It's a horrible thing to say but, unlike the Bataclan attack, the bodies are strewn along the road for all to see. If this doesn't spur a popular uprising nothing will. My guess is nothing will, though.

Pat

Box
07-14-2016, 18:00
This is what you can expect in America once madam Klingon is coronated


...."get off my lawn"

Paslode
07-14-2016, 18:07
I really hope to see the French take an extreme hard stance after this. Time to crack down on liberal rules and open borders.

-Mass deportations
-Immediate firings and revocation of CDLs
-Frexit (Like Brexit only French)
-Mass arrest of any and all current suspected terrorists in country

Time will tell what the French will do, this is the same French government that is alleged to have covered up the torture (Eye removal, disembowment, testicles cut off) of Bataclan victims.

Old Dog New Trick
07-14-2016, 18:11
The French Army is going to need a bigger rifle!

The FAMAS Battle Rifle (5.56 NATO) is incapable of stopping Lorries (trucks).

Martial Law will remain in effect for the foreseeable future.

Time to carry "Rocket Launchers" by the Defence Forces.

Old Dog New Trick
07-14-2016, 18:21
Now, they have yet to say who did this...but, don't be confused if I jump to conclusions. Jumping!

This is Bastille Day (French Independence Day) so the likelihood of "Right-Wing" extremists carrying this out is slim to none.

The driver is said to be yelling God is Great, God is Great....translation: Allah Akbar!

An ISIS (ISIL for POTUS) has claimed responsibility (unconfirmed) for this attack and this follows recent propaganda to use cars, trucks and knives if you can't get guns and bombs to kill infidels.

TWITCHY
07-14-2016, 18:47
I'm actually surprised that it has taken this long for such a style of attack to take place. One of the early editions of "Inspire" called for these types of attacks and It was also repeated in "Dabiq". Unfortunately, this would be an extremely easy attack method here in the United States.

Sohei
07-14-2016, 18:52
Unfortunately, this would be an extremely easy attack method here in the United States.

It could certainly serve as an example for others to use here that never felt led to use other methods.

frostfire
07-14-2016, 19:24
Saw a youtuber that has mini ak sbr w folding stock as an everyday carry. He posted clips of very effective hits to 150m w red dot during carbine class. Perhaps it's not so farfetched/paranoid after all.

Not saying 7.62 can stop truck, but 3 to 10 well placed rounds through the driver windshield should distract the perp...Hopefully permanently

mojaveman
07-14-2016, 19:52
Bad news and sadly, I think this and the past attack are only the beginning.

And I used to like vacationing in Europe...

Divemaster
07-14-2016, 19:53
Hollande is speaking now. Selecting quotes as he speaks.

"77 victims, including many children. About 20 wounded."
"terrorist attack"
"France has been struck on the day of her national holiday..."
"France as a whole is under threat of Islamist terrorism"
"Finally, I've decided that the state of emergency that was to end on the 26th of July will be extended by three months"
"We are going to reinforce our actions in Iraq and Syria..."
"France is afflicted, but she is strong. She will always be stronger than the fanatics"

Well spoken, Mr. President.

SF-TX
07-14-2016, 20:14
Fox has this picture posted on their front page.

Divemaster
07-14-2016, 20:14
Ooooo! Hillary just said we are at war with "radical jihadists". She almost knows who is at war with us. All she needs is a few presidential security briefs to really know who the enemy is. Wait...never mind...forget I said that.

Divemaster
07-14-2016, 20:30
Attacker is being identified as a 31-year-old Nice resident from Tunisia.

Divemaster
07-15-2016, 00:10
Attention Americans in Nice: The United States government urges you to use social media to contact friends & family to let them know you are safe (or not).

Attention Australians in Nice: Your government has established a hotline for you to let your government know if you are safe (or not).

Who ya gonna call? Personally, if I were a sheeple there I'd be practicing my Aussie accent.

However, I say just lay low for the next 12-24 hours and then carry on with your scheduled plans. Plans that don't involve large crowds, that is.

Old Dog New Trick
07-15-2016, 00:13
Two Americans, Sean and Brodie Copeland (father and son, Brodie was 11) are not contacting anyone.

RIP to the fallen, prayers to the injured. :(

Divemaster
07-15-2016, 00:19
Two Americans, Sean and Brodie Copeland (father and son, Brodie was 11) are not contacting anyone.

RIP to the fallen, prayers to the injured. :(

Confirmed KIA?

Divemaster
07-15-2016, 00:24
Two Americans, Sean and Brodie Copeland (father and son, Brodie was 11) are not contacting anyone.

RIP to the fallen, prayers to the injured. :(

Just saw that on the Daily Mail. I hate terrorists.

Divemaster
07-15-2016, 05:16
Waiting for the juvenile, yet seemingly obligatory "ban trucks" comment. Let's not go there.

Divemaster
07-15-2016, 05:25
Sky News ‏@SkyNews 51 seconds ago
Bastille Day attack suspect thought to be French-Tunisian 31-year-old Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel

Badger52
07-15-2016, 05:54
Couple of feeds off Deutsche Welle, one was a graphic that says:
"Je suis sick of this shit." Another mocked the social-media community...

At least the French president said the words our apologizer in chief won't.

Divemaster
07-15-2016, 06:19
Couple of feeds off Deutsche Welle, one was a graphic that says:
"Je suis sick of this shit." Another mocked the social-media community...

At least the French president said the words our apologizer in chief won't.

The image you posted goes hand-in-hand with a phrase I've come to loath in recent years: "thoughts and prayers".

Streck-Fu
07-15-2016, 06:57
Couple of feeds off Deutsche Welle, one was a graphic that says:
"Je suis sick of this shit." Another mocked the social-media community...

At least the French president said the words our apologizer in chief won't.

I just stole that image.

Hand
07-15-2016, 07:27
Time will tell what the French will do, this is the same French government that is alleged to have covered up the torture (Eye removal, disembowment, testicles cut off) of Bataclan victims.

What? This is the first I've heard of this. Do you have any reliable sources that you could link to?

Divemaster
07-15-2016, 07:45
Time will tell what the French will do, this is the same French government that is alleged to have covered up the torture (Eye removal, disembowment, testicles cut off) of Bataclan victims.

Of Bataclan victims? What sort of meds did you run out of? I ignore you.

Old Dog New Trick
07-15-2016, 08:06
Driver identified:

Two French police officials say identity papers found alongside the attacker belonged to a 31-year-old Frenchman with previous misdemeanor convictions but no known link to extremist groups, according to the Associated Press.

Local French media report say officials have identified him as Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel and that police searched his apartment Friday morning.

Coincidence or popular name -

Wassim Bouhlel, a Nice native, told the Associated Press that he saw the truck drive into the crowd. “There was carnage on the road,” Bouhlel said. “Bodies everywhere.”

Same article: Check out this article from USA TODAY:

At least 84, including 2 Americans, dead after truck rams crowd in France

http://usat.ly/29UQvRt

Second guy was quoted as witness in one of the very first news reports. Also that he "witnessed" the beginning of the event.

Coincidence or not I'm skeptical until proven otherwise.

Divemaster
07-15-2016, 08:13
OSAC members, this is a "truck attack".

BoomerUSMC
07-15-2016, 08:20
Would an example of irony be a BLM group blocking a major highway and along comes a mooselimb driving a truck at high speed on said highway?

Divemaster
07-15-2016, 08:29
Small government Americans take heart. If you are outside the United States your government is small indeed.

Meanwhile the UK is "working urgently" to determine if any Britains are caught up in the attack. The new PM is calling a COBRA meeting. Is the US government even watching the news yet?

SF-TX
07-15-2016, 08:35
Is the US government even watching the news yet?

No. The President is too busy coordinating with Black Live's Matter terrorists the Federal takeover of State and Local law enforcement.

Obama Pressures Police Leaders To Negotiate With 30 of His Radical Allies

President Barack Obama pressured a few police leaders to attend a closed-door White House meeting with roughly 30 of his radical left-wing allies, where he pushed for federal rules to govern the nation’s 18,000 police districts.

In his comments to reporters after the Wednesday meeting, Obama repeated his suggestion that white racism caused the shooting murder of five White or Hispanic police officers in Dallas, and he showed reporters that he’s fully supporting the radical activists’ campaign against the nation’s police leaders.

Link (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/07/14/obama-pressures-police-leaders-to-negotiate-with-30-of-his-radical-allies/)

Old Dog New Trick
07-15-2016, 08:35
Small government Americans take heart. If you are outside the United States your government is small indeed.

Meanwhile the UK is "working urgently" to determine if any Britains are caught up in the attack. The new PM is calling a COBRA meeting. Is the US government even watching the news yet?

You have to remember who the current and former bosses of the DoS are. Also remember that in Paris they locked the gates and would not let Americans in need - IN.

Incompetence leading the incompetent!

Old Dog New Trick
07-15-2016, 08:41
Would an example of irony be a BLM group blocking a major highway and along comes a mooselimb driving a truck at high speed on said highway?

That's asinine!

BoomerUSMC
07-15-2016, 08:53
That's asinine!
Maybe so.

Old Dog New Trick
07-15-2016, 09:07
Maybe so.

Your premise that a Muslim would do that is what's mostly asinine. Will an angry white supremacist with anger management issues fulfill your prescient thoughts? Very likely.

I'd be more of the opinion that now that the world knows the power of 19-ton truck vs. Kalashnikov and suicide vests. The truck is Optimus Prime in destructive power and the police are incapable of stopping it.

Expect more attacks like this in the future.

BoomerUSMC
07-15-2016, 09:11
Your premise that a Muslim would do that is what's mostly asinine. Will an angry white supremacist with anger management issues fulfill your prescient thoughts? Very likely.

I'd be more of the opinion that now that the world knows the power of 19-ton truck vs. Kalashnikov and suicide vests. The truck is Optimus Prime in destructive power and the police are incapable of stopping it.

Expect more attacks like this in the future.

I see and agree with your contention that a member of the peaceful religion would do such a thing. The extra bacon this morning must have interfered with my clear thinking.

It's obvious the problem is with gun loving 'Muricans.

SF-TX
07-15-2016, 09:19
What? This is the first I've heard of this. Do you have any reliable sources that you could link to?

Here, assuming the translation is correct.

France ‘Suppressed News of Gruesome Torture’ at Bataclan Massacre

A French government committee has heard testimony, suppressed by the French government at the time and not released to the media, that the killers in the Bataclan tortured their victims on the second floor of the club.

Police witnesses in Parliament said they vomited when they saw the disfigured bodies.

Wahhabist killers apparently gouged out eyes, castatrated victims, and shoved their testicles in their mouths. They may also have disembowelled some poor souls. Women were stabbed in the genitals – and all the torture was, victims told police, filmed by Daesh or Islamic state for propaganda. As such, medics did not release the bodies of torture victims to the families, investigators said. Prosecutors claimed this was “a rumour” on the grounds that sharp knives were not found at the scene. They also claimed maybe shrapnel had caused the injuries...

Link (http://heatst.com/uk/exclusive-france-suppressed-news-of-gruesome-torture-at-bataclan-massacre/)

Original source. (http://www.assemblee-nationale.fr/14/rap-enq/r3922-t2.asp)

Old Dog New Trick
07-15-2016, 09:39
Speaking of testicles, I saw a video last night of a man on a motorbike ride alongside just before the event began in earnest and jump from his still moving motorbike on to the side of the truck at the drivers door.

That takes some huge balls! I don't think he had much chance to change the outcome but he tried.

1.36 into this video: (somewhat graphic NSFW - Australian news channel)

https://youtu.be/Yl5d7NkD_Cc

Now, if he had been that heroic with a Glock 17 in hand, this event would have been over shortly after it started.

Maybe the French will see that their citizens are not afraid, just unprepared and stripped of their rights to self-protection.

TacOfficer
07-15-2016, 10:02
This example of proof of concept, will demonstrate to ISIS followers the means of atrocity lay in the easily accessible.

It will interesting to see how POTUS ties in gun control to this terrorist attack and if this doesn't convince the sheep that terrorism is not an abstract theory nothing will.

I agree 100% armed citizens would have had the potential to mitigate the carnage

Badger52
07-15-2016, 11:27
Meanwhile as TPTB move to ban high-capacity trucks, someone is training with a large watercraft to slip into an area where there is a big event occurring on/near the water, with a big audience. Airplane, truck... Tested concepts; just different TO&E.

Hand
07-15-2016, 11:29
Here, assuming the translation is correct.
Original source. (http://www.assemblee-nationale.fr/14/rap-enq/r3922-t2.asp)

Thank you for posting that link. I've read a bit of it, found some interesting snippets:

Mr. Gregory Reibenberg, owner of restaurant La Belle Team. I lost the evening of November 13, the mother of my daughter and twelve relatives some of whom worked with me.
...
We will never prevent an assassin from being a murderer, and we will deploy all police and military all you want, it will change nothing. It is very easy to kill, and what should worry us is the number of individuals released into the wild that can take action tomorrow. It is against this that we must fight. Or what did you do since January 7, except put on the table the idea of ​​deprivation of nationality, symbolic measure my meaning completely useless? Is it seriously, when was an engine problem to be concerned about the color of the seats? I do not understand.


Alexis M. Lebrun, a member of the association "Life for Paris - November 13, 2015." I was standing in the pit Bataclan on 13 November, where I waited death for an hour and a half before the intervention miraculous of a commissioner to come and save me and allow me to speak to you today.

September 18, 2015, the daily Le Figaro revealed via an information BFM TV, a Syria back from French jihadist to commit an attack in a concert hall was arrested in mid-August 2015, the Security Bureau indoor (ISB). Following the attacks of 13 November, Marc Trévidic, former anti-terrorist judge, said he had auditioned this suspected terrorist who had raised the idea of ​​an attack in a concert hall. At the end of August 2015, Mr. Trévidic is invited to leave office despite the threat. This movement was it timely?

That same September 18, RFI journalist expert in jihadism, David Thomson, spoke of the arrest of this man, and a poster of jihadist propaganda inciting to detonate grenades in concert halls.

On 7 January 2016, the daily Le Monde published a survey of the career of this man; it explains to have received from one of the coordinators of the events of November 13, the mission to commit an attack in France during a rock concert. The man arrested had told the investigators that this was going to happen very soon. Operative mode described in these hearings correspond exactly to that used by the perpetrators of the November 13, 2015. What measures have been taken in the meantime to ensure the safety of concert halls? Three months after his arrest and two months after these revelations, the threat is implemented at Bataclan , in Parisian terraces and the Stade de France. On 13 November 2015, the Bataclan fully booked and hosted more than 1500 people, but no security was deployed for this show: there were no police or military presence in front of the room and no search was was performed. Given the serious threat, proven, repeated and known to intelligence services, how is it possible that one of the greatest concert halls of Paris did not receive the same protections as those deployed around certain sensitive localities after the attacks in January 2015? How Vigipirate, then at its highest level, could it not plan to mobilize some men in front of the rooms hosting hundreds or thousands of people? Who decided the places to be protected under Vigipirate? How were deployed forces Vigipirate November 13, 2015? Why do some places are protected round the clock even when empty, while others are neglected when they are filled? Have we underestimated this threat? We know the result: 130 people were killed Nov. 13, 2015 and thousands more have been injured physically or psychologically. Despite maintaining Vigipirate to its highest level and the establishment of the state of emergency, we find that the places of public do not seem to benefit from enhanced protection today. Can we under these conditions consider all appropriate actions and decisions have been œ piece in 2015?


Ms. Aurelia Gilbert. Imagine for a moment that such attacks occur province! Health and relief workers fear this scenario because hospitals and emergency services would be overwhelmed, causing deaths.

Mr. President Georges Fenech. As an elected official, I am a member of a county fire and rescue service (SDIS) leading a reflection on the modalities of intervention in case of mass attack. There is much to do, but these threats are taken into account.

As I read this, I take from it that elected officials have some responsibility to be first responders as well. Is this true or a strange consequence of Google's translation?

Hand
07-15-2016, 11:30
... continued


Mr. Mohammed Zenak. My daughter saw the terrorist who attacked Voltaire Comptoir , located near La Belle team . He smiled and, after asking a coffee, he blew himself up. Police and firefighters soon arrived on the scene. She told police that it was a terrorist act, but they denied it. The terrorist was still alive because he has fortunately failed to trigger all of his explosives. Understanding that the attack was well-terrorist related, the police conducted the evacuation of customers in peace.

My daughter repeatedly asked: "How did we get here? ". The terrorists were stuck and banned from European territory: how were they able to go to Paris to lead an attack of this magnitude?


Pierre Lellouche. I train regularly shooting in police custody. I know what it is to shoot to forty-five meters in the dark: it is not evident unless one is very well trained. How many times a field officer he takes a year?

Mr. LS In LAC, we have "open fire" once a week. We get to shoot once a week or once every two weeks. We have a sports training once or twice a week. You should know that we are privileged. There was also ammunition waiting periods when we were shooting that twice eight cartridges. We found ourselves in the situation when general service must complete a minimum of three annual shots.

MTP We are fortunate because, thanks to special shooting sessions of the IBC, we can learn much more than others. We draw usually at least ten times a year.

Pierre Lellouche. Basically, therefore, you shoot once a month. How many cartridges? Fifty ?

MTP and Mr. LS No! Thirty.


The Rapporteur. Terrorists The Bataclan they have committed beheadings and mutilations? Were they products of deaths other than by shooting or explosion? We are dealing with contradictory information - some of which were provided to us during our hearings - that must be clarified.

Mr. President Georges Fenech. Indeed, the Committee is troubled by this information which have filtered nowhere. Thus, the father of one of the victims sent me a copy of a letter he sent to the investigating judge, which I quote in summary: "On the causes of the death of my son A., the forensic institute in Paris, I was told, and with reserves given the shock it was for me at that moment, they had cut off his testicles, it's him had put in his mouth, and he was disembowelled. When I saw it behind glass, lying on a table, a white shroud covering it up to the neck, a psychologist with me. The latter said: "The only presentable part of your son's left profile." I found that he had more right eye. I made ​​the remark; I was informed that they had punctured him the eye and down the right side of his face, where very large hematoma that we could all see when it is in beer. "

This particular witness could corroborate the statements that kept us one of the BAC officials that one of the investigators vomited immediately on leaving the Bataclan after finding a decapitation and evisceration. Are you aware of such facts?

Michel Cadot. I had no knowledge of these facts, nor by the Forensic Institute or by the officials in question. It is obvious to the court to assess the veracity investigation. Nevertheless, I realized that was found at the site of the attack no no knife or other sharp device that would allow this type of mutilation. It will be easy to check as part of the investigation. In my case, once again, I have not received any message of the sort from the Forensic Institute or the direction of guardianship of the relevant BAC.

Mr. Christian saint. I can not move on this point, given the state of the investigation, but nothing in the present state of my knowledge allows me to think that what has just be read is right. I specify, for the sake of clarity, some of the bodies found at the Bataclan were extremely mutilated by the explosions and weapons, to the point that it was sometimes difficult to reconstruct the dismembered bodies. In other words, injuries described this father may also have been caused by automatic weapons by explosions or projections of nails and bolts that have resulted.

Mr. President Georges Fenech. There he would have put his testicles in your mouth ...

Mr. Christian saint. I do not have that information and if these facts had been established, I think such information would not have escaped.

Sdiver
07-15-2016, 12:05
Video showing the terrorist approaching and then driving into the crowd ...

https://www.conservativeoutfitters.com/blogs/news/video-shows-truck-running-into-crowd-in-nice-france-terror-attack

:mad:

Old Dog New Trick
07-15-2016, 12:12
Considering what's available today in graphic video games and movie theaters and depending on how different countries report the news and what's going on: being that the Internet brings more to bear in near realtime.

Maybe we should stop sugar coating the visual effects of reality. Sure, blur out exposed genitalia, faces, and any identifying characteristics of the victims but show the true heinousness of brutal murder.

If that doesn't move people to take action against people (no animals, no savages) like ISIS, nothing will.

The sheep need a wake up call! Or they will continue to be led to slaughter.

Just preface it with, young children and those with a weak stomach should change the channel before the end of the commercial break.

There is dignity and respect for the victims and then there is a significant purpose of honesty and integrity in reporting the news...some of it is not nice.

Reality is a b-itch!

Sohei
07-15-2016, 12:18
Absolutely! If they don't begin opening their eyes to the reality that is befalling them, then those types of incidents will only escalate in severity and number.

This is only the beginning if they stay on the track they are on now.

Hopefully, we -- as a nation -- are watching and seeing what is coming our way if we allow ourselves to look any weaker to the aggressor.

Hand
07-15-2016, 13:48
Absolutely! If they don't begin opening their eyes to the reality that is befalling them, then those types of incidents will only escalate in severity and number.


They already are! Before the last 3... 4 attacks the Colorado theater shooting was the most shocking thing in my narrow memory, before that was the DC snipers. Now in seemingly rapid succession we had Charlie Hebdoe, the Pamela Geller gallery, Bataclan, the gay club, Nice. This is even completely ignoring all the things going on outside of msm reporting. I was scrolling through the list here (https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/terror-2016.htm) earlier today and just for 2016 there are hundreds world wide.

This IS the new normal. It's sad but there has been zero discussion of this event in the office today, no one even mentioned it at all. This will blow over quickly. Ask a college kid when the last attack in France was, I bet they couldn't tell you.

bblhead672
07-15-2016, 15:29
Ask a college kid when the last attack in France was, I bet they couldn't tell you.

Hell, the college kid may not even be able to locate France on a map.

PSM
07-15-2016, 15:51
Hell, the college kid may not even be able to locate France on a map.

"Map? What's a map? Did you mean app." :confused:

Pat

SF-TX
07-16-2016, 07:23
An American father and his youngest son were killed in the Nice attack. They are from the Austin, TX metropolitan area.

As the Lakeway community came to grips with news that two of its residents, a 51-year-old man and his 11-year-old son, were among the dozens killed in an attack Thursday night in Nice, France, a portrait of a doting father and his precocious boy soon emerged.

Story (http://www.mystatesman.com/news/news/local/lakeway-father-superstar-son-among-dead-in-nice-fr/nry67/?icmp=statesman_internallink_referralbox_free-to-premium-referral)

Badger52
08-02-2016, 10:54
RT Link (https://www.rt.com/news/354344-french-mayors-arm-police/) (snark is mine)

The terrorist attack in Nice which killed 84 people when a truck plowed through crowds celebrating Bastille Day has prompted several French mayors to arm local police. Non-lethal weapons are incapable of stopping a “crazed attacker,” one mayor said. (especially when he's driving a BFT, you ostrich)

"Along the Promenade des Anglais [in Nice] the municipal police and the national police had the same mission – to stop a crazed vehicle or murderer,” said Francois Bayrou, the mayor of Pau. ("Hey Rocky, watch me pull a rabbit outta my hat.")

“Our weapons against incivility (such as flowers/candles, social media posts, wagging our finger, and wringing our hands), such as the Taser or the flash-ball, are obviously worthless in stopping a vehicle," he added, according to franceinfo.fr.

TacOfficer
08-02-2016, 12:28
And yet it is the policy of the Chicago police department not to fire into moving vehicles if they are the only threat. The department expects officers and civilians to just jump out of the way.........

Allow me too share the following. The blog below says it better than I.

http://secondcitycop.blogspot.com/?m=1

SATURDAY, JULY 30, 2016

Logical Extreme
We'll just leave this here:
Now an issue that the department and IPRA must address is whether officers followed department policy by shooting at the vehicle. In February 2015, former Superintendent Garry McCarthy revised the department's policy on the use of deadly force to prohibit officers from "firing at or into a moving vehicle when the vehicle is the only force used against the sworn member or another person."
Because a car has never been used as a weapon to hurt, maim, affect an escape or kill.

It's a good thing the Chicago Police Department order on Use of Force wasn't in place in France recently:



Under the current Use of Force policy, the truck is the "only force used against the sworn member or another person," meaning a terrorist would have been able to make runs up and down Michigan Avenue, Columbus Drive, or Grant Park mowing down Lolla attendees and as long as his doors are locked, he doesn't run out of gas and the wheels don't get jammed up with the dead and dying, the Chicago Police are not allowed to stop him.

If you do, Eddie Johnson will strip you, send you to call back and fire you.
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