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Istanbul Ataturk airport attack: At least 10 reported dead
BBC
19 minutes ago
From the section Europe
gun and bomb attack on Istanbul's Ataturk international airport has killed at least 10 people and injured others, with reports of at least one suicide bomber.
At least 20 people were also wounded with casualties being reportedly rushed to hospital in taxis.
Police opened fire to stop the suspects at an entry point, Reuters reports.
It appears that the attackers detonated explosives at the entrance to the international terminal.
"Ten people have been killed according to a preliminary toll," Justice Minister Bekir Bozdag said.
"According to the information I was given, a terrorist at the international terminal entrance first opened fire with a Kalashnikov and then blew himself up," the minister added, according to the Associated Press.
Turkish media report that two suicide bombers were involved.
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36658187
Turkish airports have security checks at both at the entrance of terminal buildings and then later before entry to departure gates.
Damn. Those were some determined "terrorist".
Anybody feel like wagering on how long it takes the US media to use the word "islam" in association with this tragedy.
My thoughts to the victims and their families.
Prolly another Amish attack...
Death toll rising. Prayers out.
Turkey airport attack: 28 killed in explosions at Istanbul Atatürk
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/28/turkey-airport-explosions-ataturak-istanbul
Badger52
06-28-2016, 15:54
Prolly another Amish attack...ISIS trying to send Erdogan a message. (https://www.rt.com/news/347980-model-fighter-isis-kurds/)
Prayers for the innocents caught up in this workplace violence.
Policeman shoots bomber before he blows up: https://twitter.com/Conflicts/status/747906501470208000?lang=en
Pat
Policeman shoots bomber before he blows up: https://twitter.com/Conflicts/status/747906501470208000?lang=en
Pat
He probably saved a lot of lives by putting that bomber down.
ETA: targeted the international terminal - arguably another attack on the West.
Policeman shoots bomber before he blows up: https://twitter.com/Conflicts/status/747906501470208000?lang=en
Pat
That was one lucky cop. Glad he put the turd down.....
Badger52
06-28-2016, 16:52
He probably saved a lot of lives by putting that bomber down.
ETA: targeted the international terminal - arguably another attack on the West.Noted.
Good argument also for making sure you've flipped his circuit breaker completely.
Good argument also for making sure you've flipped his circuit breaker completely.
True dat.
In abundance of caution - have we reached the point of encouraging everyone to travel with small individual trauma kits?
T...have we reached the point of encouraging everyone to travel with small individual trauma kits?
You don't already?
You don't already?
Sure do - and I should do better - would like to see push for this going mainstream - relatively small imposition for a large potential benefit.
I just hope the experts can figure out why this is happening.
Old Dog New Trick
06-28-2016, 20:20
I just hope the experts can figure out why this is happening.
Not enough hugs, high unemployment, drug use and the number one reason...
Readily availability of Assault Weapons purchased through gun-show loopholes without background checks.
The explosives were probably homemade in the kitchen using readily available chemicals from the local nail polish and message shop.
RIP the victims of this inhuman crime.
frostfire
06-28-2016, 22:15
Noted.
Good argument also for making sure you've flipped his circuit breaker completely.
man, that's going to be messy with the lawyers' tweaking the ROE:
- You can't shoot an unarmed wounded man! That's execution style!
- How do you know he's unarmed?
Damn if you do, damn if you don't.
No wonder Balawi was able to pull that stunt at FOB Chapman
Divemaster
06-29-2016, 02:50
Airports have been noted soft targets since at least the 1970s. Forgive me if my list is incomplete (and I'm not counting the aircraft hijackings).
The Japanese Red Army (working for the PFLP religion of peace) hit Lod Airport in 1972.
The Rome and Vienna airports were hit in 1985 by the religion of peace.
The millennium plot (broken up by capturing the religion of peace turd in Port Angeles, WA) targeted LAX.
The 2002 attack at LAX by the religion of peace targeting El Al.
The religion of peace pays a courtesy call on the Brussels airport in 2016.
Every QP here, as well as security professionals globally will tell you the same thing:
1. Some airports are more secure than others, and American airports are worse than most.
2. Airport attacks tend to occur at the outer ring of security.
3. Get through security as expeditiously as possible.
4. Once through that outer ring, move well away and into the "secure" interior.
5. (My opinion) U.S. Airports have long been ripe for this type of attack. In just the last couple of weeks I've been through half a dozen major American airports. At most, cars can still pull up to the arrival and departure curbs and people can walk away from them unchallenged. I've watched cops walk past empty cars that have been curbside for over 10 minutes (yes, I timed it). Assaulting, hell running, through security at an American airport and reaching the gates and aircraft is not much of a challenge.
6. Stay alert at all airports regardless of where you are in the security process.
7. (My opinion) If you have access to airline lounges you are less vulnerable because you are inside security and you can't be seen by someone going after crowds. Some, and only some, of these lounges have emergency exits.
8. (My opinion) If you are at a check-in counter and something bad starts going down, do not run with the herd. You will be safer having your family follow your luggage through the conveyor belt behind the counter.
9.You can save time checking your bags with the skycap and heading straight to the security line. However, this is not always an option internationally.
Thank you for that list Divemaster. There were a few things I had never even considered, the conveyor belt escape is genius.
Adding to the list of airport attacks:
2007 Jihad VBIED attack on Glasgow International Airport
2011 Jihad murder of two US airmen at Frankfurt airport
Divemaster
06-29-2016, 08:37
Adding to the list of airport attacks:
2007 Jihad VBIED attack on Glasgow International Airport
2011 Jihad murder of two US airmen at Frankfurt airport
Thanks, brother. I was just going off the top of my head and forgot those two, and probably others.
man, that's going to be messy with the lawyers' tweaking the ROE:
- You can't shoot an unarmed wounded man! That's execution style!
- How do you know he's unarmed?
Damn if you do, damn if you don't.
No wonder Balawi was able to pull that stunt at FOB Chapman
Also a good example for the argument that anything worth shooting once - is worth shooting multiple times.
It seems reasonable to assume that under the circumstances the bad guy was not there to quietly hold up the ticket counter. It also seems reasonable that this bad guy's actions and weapon choice suggested his clear attempt to induce mass casualties by any means necessary. Moreover, explosive vests have been used in many of the recent assaults.
Just food for thought.
Divemaster
06-29-2016, 08:48
Thank you for that list Divemaster. There were a few things I had never even considered, the conveyor belt escape is genius.
To me it is obvious rather than genius. Of course this only works if you are near a ticket counter. Depending upon the airport and the layout of that luggage system, it may come with other perils (lack of safety for humans), but a terrorist is not going to follow you through.
Also, signing up for Global Entry or getting on the TSA Pre program will get you through security faster.
Fox news has a compilation of recent airport attacks:
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/06/29/recent-airport-attacks-at-glance.html?intcmp=hpbt1
ISIS attacking NATO members - how many more Islamofascist attacks before NATO coalesces for massive coordinated response...never mind...that would take leadership.
It would seem painfully obvious that no matter the name of the group inflicting the carnage - there appears one common denominator - Islamic terrorism.
http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/nato_countries.htm
Divemaster
06-29-2016, 09:12
Fox news has a compilation of recent airport attacks:
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/06/29/recent-airport-attacks-at-glance.html?intcmp=hpbt1
Good round up of recent attacks going back to 2011. I cover airport security in my business travel safety classes.
Divemaster
06-29-2016, 09:18
ISIS attacking NATO members - how many more Islamofascist attacks before NATO coalesces for massive coordinated response...never mind...that would take leadership.
It would seem painfully obvious that no matter the name of the group inflicting the carnage - there appears one common denominator - Islamic terrorism.
http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/nato_countries.htm
Well, it isn't so cut an dried. We can't just massively strike ISIS/ISIL/Daesh when that annoying Assad regime is still in place. That would be supporting a repressive dictator, and is sooo 20th century. However, we are happy to degrade their capability to control territory outside of Assad's control.
Well, it isn't so cut an dried. We can't just massively strike ISIS/ISIL/Daesh when that annoying Assad regime is still in place. That would be supporting a repressive dictator, and is sooo 20th century. However, we are happy to degrade their capability to control territory outside of Assad's control.
Agreed - far from cut and dry.
My comment on massive coordinated response is not limited to a "strike" response - I suggest a well planned, coordinated, clean out of the rat's nests in each member country...no safe haven neighborhoods (essentially FOB's), etc., etc.,
Include NATO coordinated transportation, protection and safe zones for immigrants in more approriate locations other than Europe.
NATO appears well behind the curve and continues to absorb the pain inflicted on innocents with relatively piecemeal responses.
If not addressed there it will (has) migrate(d) here.
Divemaster
06-29-2016, 12:54
Agreed - far from cut and dry.
My comment on massive coordinated response is not limited to a "strike" response - I suggest a well planned, coordinated, clean out of the rat's nests in each member country...no safe haven neighborhoods (essentially FOB's), etc., etc.,
Include NATO coordinated transportation, protection and safe zones for immigrants in more approriate locations other than Europe.
NATO appears well behind the curve and continues to absorb the pain inflicted on innocents with relatively piecemeal responses.
If not addressed there it will (has) migrate(d) here.
I meant to use the sarcasm font. The NCA's desire to rid the world of repressive dictators is providing the power vacuum in which ISIS thrives.