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A gunman wielding an assault-type rifle and a handgun opened fire inside a crowded Florida nightclub before dying in a gunfight with SWAT officers, police said Sunday. The attack left about 20 people dead and 42 others wounded.
Authorities were investigating it as an act of terrorism.
Police Chief John Mina said the shooter also had some sort of "suspicious device." He said the suspect exchanged gunfire with an officer working at the gay club around 2 a.m., then went back inside and took hostages among more than 300 people inside.
Around 5 a.m., authorities sent in a SWAT team to rescue the hostages. Police have not determined an exact number of casualties, but Mina said "approximately 20" bodies were inside the club.
Authorities were looking into whether the attack was an act of domestic or international terror, and if the shooter was a lone wolf, according to Danny Banks, an agent with the Florida Department of Law Enforcement.
"This is an incident, as I see it, that we certainly classify as domestic terror incident," Orange County Sheriff Jerry Demings said.
FBI agent Ron Hopper said there was no further threat to Orlando or the surrounding area.
When asked if the gunman had a connection to radical Islamic terrorism, Hopper said authorities "have suggestions that individual has leanings towards that."
Police had said previously on Twitter that there was a "controlled explosion" at the scene of the shooting at Pulse Orlando, a dance club. Mina said that noise was caused by a device intended to distract the shooter.
Mina Justice was outside the club early Sunday trying to contact her 30-year-old son, Eddie, who texted her when the shooting happened and asked her to call police. He told her he ran into a bathroom with other club patrons to hide. He then texted her: "He's coming."
"The next text said: 'He has us, and he's in here with us,'" she said. "That was the last conversation."
Dozens of police vehicles swarmed the area around the club. At least two police pickup trucks were seen taking what appeared to be shooting victims to the Orlando Regional Medical Center.
Pulse Orlando posted on its own Facebook page around 2 a.m.: "Everyone get out of pulse and keep running." Just before 6 a.m., the club posted an update: "As soon as we have any information, we will update everyone. Please keep everyone in your prayers as we work through this tragic event. Thank you for your thoughts and love."
Police said local, state and federal agencies were investigating.
The attack follows the fatal shooting late Friday of 22-year-old singer Christina Grimmie, who was killed after her concert in Orlando by a 27-year-old Florida man who later killed himself. Grimmie was a YouTube sensation and former contestant on "The Voice."
Jon Alamo said he was at the back of one of the club's rooms when a man holding a weapon came into the front of the room.
"I heard 20, 40, 50 shots," Alamo said. "The music stopped."
Club-goer Rob Rick said the shooting started just before closing time.
"Everybody was drinking their last sip," he said.
He estimated more than 100 people were still inside when he heard shots, got on the ground and crawled toward a DJ booth. A bouncer knocked down a partition between the club area and an area in the back where only workers are allowed. People inside were able to then escape through the back of the club.
Christopher Hansen said he was in the VIP lounge when he heard gunshots. He continued to hear shooting even after he emerged, where police were telling people to back away from the club. He saw injured people being tended to across the street.
"I was thinking, 'Are you kidding me?' So I just dropped down. I just said, 'Please, please, please, I want to make it out,'" he said. "And when I did, I saw people shot. I saw blood. You hope and pray you don't get shot."
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This story has been corrected to show that Banks is with the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, not the FBI.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/orlando-police-multiple-injuries-nightclub-shooting-39789613
(1VB)compforce
06-12-2016, 08:12
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He estimated more than 100 people were still inside when he heard shots, got on the ground and crawled toward a DJ booth. A bouncer knocked down a partition between the club area and an area in the back where only workers are allowed. People inside were able to then escape through the back of the club.
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Fantastic job and kudos to the bouncer!
Omar Mateen was celebrating the 'holy' month and engaging in spiritual growth by executing homosexuals, in accordance with Islam.
Happy Ramadan.
The White House
Office of the Press Secretary
For Immediate Release
June 05, 2016
Statement by the President on the Occasion of Ramadan
As another new moon heralds the start of the holy month of Ramadan, Michelle and I extend our best wishes to Muslims across the United States and around the world.
For many, this month is an opportunity to focus on reflection and spiritual growth, forgiveness, patience and resilience, compassion for those less fortunate, and unity across communities. Each lesson is profound on its own, and taken together forms a harmonious whole. It’s also a time of year that brings some of the best dishes to the table across the world as families and neighbors gather for iftar.
Here in the United States, we are blessed with Muslim communities as diverse as our nation itself. There are those whose heritage can be traced back to the very beginning of our nation, as well as those who have only just arrived. Doctors, lawyers, artists, teachers, scientists, community organizers, public servants, and military members, each night will all break their fasts together in cities across America.
As Muslim Americans celebrate the holy month, I am reminded that we are one American family. I stand firmly with Muslim American communities in rejection of the voices that seek to divide us or limit our religious freedoms or civil rights. I stand committed to safeguarding the civil rights of all Americans no matter their religion or appearance. I stand in celebration of our common humanity and dedication to peace and justice for all.
And in this month of reflection, we cannot forget the millions of lives that have been displaced by conflict and struggle, across the world and in our own backyards. Far too many Muslims may not be able to observe Ramadan from the comfort of their own homes this year or afford to celebrate Eid with their children. We must continue working together to alleviate the suffering of these individuals. This sacred time reminds us of our common obligations to uphold the dignity of every human being. We will continue to welcome immigrants and refugees into our nation, including those who are Muslim.
As I have done throughout my presidency, I look forward to opening the doors of the White House to Muslim Americans during this special occasion – this year for an Eid celebration marking the end of Ramadan. I can think of no better way to mark my Administration’s last celebration of Ramadan as President than to honor the contributions of Muslims in America and across the world for Eid. Ramadan Kareem.
Source (https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2016/06/05/statement-president-occasion-ramadan)
Death toll now being reported as north of 50.
Death toll now being reported as north of 50.
Prayers out indeed to the victims of this Terrorist Attack on Our Country.
Holly
"...Omar Mateen, the man who opened fire at a gay nightclub in Florida, killing at least 50 people and injuring dozens more, had become angered after seeing two men kissing in downtown Miami, his father has told NBC News. (more) ..."
http://bnonews.com/news/index.php/news/id4555
Anger will focus on the "evil" gun - not the shooter - for obvious reasons.
After all, something like this is not about religion. Unless the shooter was a Christian.
Team Sergeant
06-12-2016, 09:36
"...Omar Mateen, the man who opened fire at a gay nightclub in Florida, killing at least 50 people and injuring dozens more, had become angered after seeing two men kissing in downtown Miami, his father has told NBC News. (more) ..."
http://bnonews.com/news/index.php/news/id4555
Anger will focus on the "evil" gun - not the shooter - for obvious reasons.
After all, something like this is not about religion. Unless the shooter was a Christian.
"Liberal/socialist" Anger will focus on the "evil" gun - not the shooter - for obvious reasons.
Fixed that for you.
Gear up, especially in crowded areas. Time to profile individuals.
Remember, Omar Mateen is likely a 'lone wolf' terrorist. Our President and elected representatives will be along shortly to assuage our fears and insist this attack had nothing to do with Islam.
…Muslim cleric, Sheikh Khalid Yasin, concluded: “God is very straightforward about this — not we Muslims, not subjective, the Sharia is very clear about it, the punishment for homosexuality, bestiality or anything like that is death. We don’t make any excuses about that, it’s not our law — it’s the Koran.”
Source (https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/05/tunisian-imam-homosexuals-should-be-stoned-to-death)
During a Friday sermon on July 10, 2015, Imam Ahmed Miklós Kovács, Vice President of the Hungarian Muslim Community, stated that homosexuals are “the filthiest of Allah’s creatures,” and that Muslims “must never accept this disease.”He instructed followers not to paint their Facebook image with rainbow colors.
Source (https://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/09/hungary-muslim-cleric-says-homosexuals-are-the-filthiest-of-allahs-creatures)
A Bareilly-based cleric has issued a fatwa against homosexuality…
The mufti has cited two hadis (teachings of the Prophet Mohammed) from the Quran as a premise for his fatwa. As per Hadis Dur-re-mukhtar, such acts could attract severe punishment, he said. “A person may be burnt alive, pushed from a high wall or be beaten publically with stones if he indulges into either of the two behaviours,” the fatwa states.
Source (https://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/12/india-muslim-cleric-issues-fatwa-against-homosexuality-calls-for-homosexuals-to-be-burnt-alive-pushe)
SAUDI law makers could impose the death penalty on gay people who show their sexuality in public and on social media, according to reports.
The government in the Sunni Kingdom is reportedly demanding tougher punishments on those found guilty and claimed social media has caused a boom in homosexuality.
Source (https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/03/saudis-to-execute-gays-who-show-their-sexuality-in-public-and-online)
Suspect Musab Masmari’s motive may have stemmed from his “distaste for homosexual people.”
Masmari is charged with arson for allegedly setting the fire at Neighbours nightclub {Gay club} shortly after midnight on New Year’s Day.
According to investigative documents filed in King County Superior Court, the 30-year old Masmari told a friend “that homosexuals should be exterminated.”
Source (https://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/02/seattle-muslim-who-tried-to-burn-down-crowded-gay-nightclub-said-homosexuals-should-be-exterminated)
Team Sergeant
06-12-2016, 09:46
"While the shooting was considered an act of terrorism, FBI spokesman Ron Harper said there was no credible information that would indicate there was a further threat to Orlando or the rest of Florida."
http://www.wftv.com/news/local/terrorist-was-organized-and-well-prepared-during-deadly-nightclub-mass-shooting-official-says/338196567
That is liberal government talk for hide your head in the sand until America is attacked again.
Gay folks might want to stay out of the "unprotected" bars for a while.
islam and it's followers will always be a threat to American Freedoms.
Team Sergeant
06-12-2016, 09:51
Let's see the middle east reaction, want to bet that the saudi's, paki's, turks, etc are all dancing in the streets celebrating this slaughter.
And all the "American" islamic centers are denouncing the slaughter...... (not)
Team Sergeant
06-12-2016, 10:02
It was unclear whether Mateen was on the FBI's radar before the attack. However, when asked about possible connections to radical Islamic terrorism, assistant FBI Agent in Charge Ronald Hopper told Fox News, "We do have suggestions that that individual may have gleanings toward that particular ideology. But right now we can't say definitively."
Hopper also said Mateen made "threats in the past that he has ties to terrorist organizations."
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/06/12/florida-nightclub-shooter-had-made-threats-in-past-reports-claim.html?intcmp=hpbt1
Common sense, if a muslim makes threats and says he tied to islamic terrorist organizations, take it seriously.
FBI Agent in Charge Ronald Hopper, you're an idiot.
How many more Muslims in the US are 'on the radar' waiting for their opportunity to murder American citizens? How many that aren't on the radar?
Mateen's parents were born in Afghanistan, and he was "on the radar" of U.S. officials for some time, but was not the target of a specific investigation, law enforcement officials told ABC News.
Source (http://abcnews.go.com/US/omar-mateen-suspected-orlando-night-club-shooter/story?id=39790797)
Golf1echo
06-12-2016, 10:25
"Liberal/socialist" Anger will focus on the "evil" gun - not the shooter - for obvious reasons.
Fixed that for you.
Gear up, especially in crowded areas. Time to profile individuals.
You and Pete nailed that one on the head, below is an article out from Jeff B's new rag ( tool). Conveniently leaving out any details of the actual causation or what really happened.
WP Article: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/06/12/orlando-shooting-the-key-things-to-know-about-about-guns-and-mass-shootings-in-america/
"While the shooting was considered an act of terrorism, FBI spokesman Ron Harper said there was no credible information that would indicate there was a further threat to Orlando or the rest of Florida."
http://www.wftv.com/news/local/terrorist-was-organized-and-well-prepared-during-deadly-nightclub-mass-shooting-official-says/338196567
That is liberal government talk for hide your head in the sand until America is attacked again.
Gay folks might want to stay out of the "unprotected" bars for a while.
islam and it's followers will always be a threat to American Freedoms.
The whole effin country is under threat from these bastards every day. People will vote their fears come November and that will not bode well for madame secretary.
GratefulCitizen
06-12-2016, 10:48
Saw reports which said the guy was angry because he saw two men kissing.
Wonder what would've happened if he was a baker and they asked him to make them a wedding cake...
Seems like another case of sudden jihad syndrome.
This is the new normal.
Politicians can say whatever they want, but the fact is simple:
War has made it to American soil.
Mustang Man
06-12-2016, 10:59
Leftists are also conveniently forgetting about France having the strictest gun laws while ak wielding terrorists massacred and put the whole city chaos. Piers Morgan and the usual scum are already ranting their anti gun rhetoric.
Sure, places like Brittan, Sweden, and France may have less mass shootings. But how disproportionate are their ratios of mass rape, burning & riots, stabbings and beheadings compared to us?
Speaker at Orlando mosque claims that homosexuals must die, out of compassion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBlwxqqAprQ
How again are we benefiting from promoting Islam as a religion of "peace".
The leftists are the ones with their head in the sand. An action such as this should make them wake up, but im sure they are just going to dig in deeper and go after guns and create laws that "protect" the LGBT......IDISDMISDMCOSIDJCOMSDCPKDPCJOIESDCOISJDO ICMPOSDKJCVIOJSDOPCMPOSDMCOPMSDPCMPSDVMOISFDIOCDSO ICOISDSNCOIDSNCOKJDIUSHOICEWIQOEJFIID community.
Team Sergeant
06-12-2016, 11:27
The whole effin country is under threat from these bastards every day. People will vote their fears come November and that will not bode well for madame secretary.
No, you mean the entire world.
Russia is under attack from muslims, China is under attack from muslims, Philippines is under attack from muslims, Thailand is under attack from muslims, Europe is under attack from muslims, Africa is under attack from muslims, the middle east, what a joke, everywhere 'cept central south America is under attack from muslims.
That said, let's not "offend" the muzzies. Oh and the goats of Canada no longer sleep peacefully because of muslims.
No, you mean the entire world.
Russia is under attack from muslims, China is under attack from muslims, Philippines is under attack from muslims, Thailand is under attack from muslims, Europe is under attack from muslims, Africa is under attack from muslims, the middle east, what a joke, everywhere 'cept central south America is under attack from muslims.
That said, let's not "offend" the muzzies. Oh and the goats of Canada no longer sleep peacefully because of muslims.
Was just talking to my friends in Peru and they are dumbfounded why we do not round them all up and send them packing. They are having problems with Colombians in two states and they are rounding them up and ending them north across the border no matter their status.
They can not understand our PC mentality and our lack of action.
Oldrotorhead
06-12-2016, 16:02
And here is his father. I think there is more some here than two men kissing.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3637968/Father-America-s-deadly-mass-shooter-wanted-Afghan-president-job-TV-showed-support-Taliban.html
Seddique Mateen is the father of mass shooter Omar Mateen, 29
Mateen Snr is an Afghan man and also hosts Durand Jirga Show
The show is aired on YouTube channel Payam-e-Afghan, from California
One video shows him declaring his candidacy for the Afghan presidency
In another, he shows his support for the Afghan Taliban
He told press this morning: 'We are in shock like the whole country'
Posts include topics such as 'Rise Afghan people against Pakistan' and 'Intelligent service and Military of Pakistan real Enemy of the USA (sic)'.
In one video the elder Mateen holds up a sign that reads: 'ISI Pakistan and Military is Destroying 14 years of US work in Afghanistan to cut AID to killers'.
And in another, he tells the camera: 'Our brothers in Waziristan, our warrior brothers in [the] Taliban movement and national Afghan Taliban are rising up.
'Inshallah the Durand Line issue will be solved soon', according to a translation by The Washington Post.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3637968/Father-America-s-deadly-mass-shooter-wanted-Afghan-president-job-TV-showed-support-Taliban.html#ixzz4BPBHqeKv
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The first indication that this was tied to Islamic radicalism was when the police had an imam ask that people not jump to come conclusions......
...I immediately jumped to a conclusion
Team Sergeant
06-12-2016, 16:44
And here is his father. I think there is more some here than two men kissing.
Yeah.....
I'm going to go out on a limb here and call islamic bullshitte.
You don't build a suicide vest and knowingly commit suicide just because of two men kissing. Kill someone maybe, commit suicide, ahh, no.
This was an islamic terrorist attack and it had been planned for months maybe years.
Soon we will hear that he was yelling allahu akbar and smiling while killing. Probably spend the night before in bed with his favorite goats too.......
And in the name of diversity I'd like to place the full blame on the AR-15 and the manufacturer of that gun for all those dead and wounded.
YM Cating
06-12-2016, 16:53
Yeah.....
I'm going to go out on a limb here and call islamic bullshitte.
You don't build a suicide vest and knowingly commit suicide just because of two men kissing. Kill someone maybe, commit suicide, ahh, no.
This was an islamic terrorist attack and it had been planned for months maybe years.
Soon we will hear that he was yelling allahu akbar and smiling while killing. Probably spend the night before in bed with his favorite goats too.......
And in the name of diversity I'd like to place the full blame on the AR-15 and the manufacturer of that gun for all those dead and wounded.
Can confirm the "allahu akbar" and that he contacted 911 and on the recorded line, pledged his allegiance to IS before he died.
Can confirm the "allahu akbar" and that he contacted 911 and on the recorded line, pledged his allegiance to IS before he died.
True.
I wonder if these folks still feel the same way after he started yelling allah snackbar and dropping bodies.
Team Sergeant
06-13-2016, 09:07
I wonder if these folks still feel the same way after he started yelling allah snackbar and dropping bodies.
Yeah they do..... I read some social media feeds about the shooting and some gays were saying not to blame islam........
I'm not really sure what to say, especially when the muslims have been videoed throwing gays off buildings in the middle east......
"You can kill me but I will not hate you?"
Good luck with that.
The Reaper
06-13-2016, 09:12
Yeah they do..... I read some social media feeds about the shooting and some gays were saying not to blame islam........
I'm not really sure what to say, especially when the muslims have been videoed throwing gays off buildings in the middle east......
"You can kill me but I will not hate you?"
Good luck with that.
No, if you are a Christian who has not harmed anyone, hating you would still be okay.
TR
Our Western mindset won't allow our sheep to understand that they attack who they want to. They pick the "group-of-the-week" and attack them with impunity because they are allowed to. Our citizenry is too scared to call things what they are and because of that, our soft targets will continually be attacked.
Team Sergeant
06-13-2016, 09:29
Our Western mindset won't allow our sheep to understand that they attack who they want to. They pick the "group-of-the-week" and attack them with impunity because they are allowed to. Our citizenry is too scared to call things what they are and because of that, our soft targets will continually be attacked.
This islamic "success" will only embolden the "American" muslims and one of them soon will pick a kids group. Jewish most likely and rain down hell on those poor kids.
Or the "American" IED's will soon start, and in "free" society finding explosive material will be easily found.
Once the kids start dying, instead of targeting the muslims I see the American banning guns and removing our freedoms. The socialist liberals are just waiting for the right "crisis" to try.
And it's coming I'm sure.
I that is a logical chain of events.
Team Sergeant
06-13-2016, 11:17
If/when DHS cross references Mateen's IRS returns they will probably find he wrote those trips off as "Jihadi Training".
Orlando gunman's descent into Islamic terror comes into focus
Published June 13, 2016
· FoxNews.com
The Muslim terrorist who killed at least 49 people in an Orlando nightclub early Sunday was an angry loner who beat his ex-wife, alienated co-workers and made at least two mysterious trips to Saudi Arabia, according to people who knew him and law enforcement authorities who are now piecing together his descent into radical Islam.
FBI Director James Comey said on Monday that a trio of phone calls between Omar Mateen and a 911 operator while Mateen was holed up in a club bathroom with hostages may provide insight into his radicalization. During those calls, Comey said, Mateen "made clear his support for" ISIS and pledged loyalty to the terror group's leader.
However, Mateen also "claimed solidarity" with the Boston Marathon bombers -- who learned how to make their pressure cooker bomb from an Al Qaeda-affiliated magazine -- and a man who blew himself up in Syria during an operation for Al-Nusra Front, leading Comey to say it was "unclear which terror group he aspired to support."
Another potential avenue of investigation is a pair of trips Mateen, 29, took to Saudi Arabia in March 2011 and March 2012 for umrah, a non-mandatory visit to Mecca for Muslims. Saudi Arabia's Interior Ministry spokesman confirmed the trips to The Associated Press in a text message Monday. Umrah can be performed at any time of the year.
cont:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/06/13/orlando-gunmans-descent-into-islamic-terror-comes-into-focus.html?intcmp=hpbt1
Old Dog New Trick
06-13-2016, 11:33
I that is a logical chain of events.
Don't know. I see this one though as being a recipe for 'copy cat' mayhem in the coming months against the LGTBQ community.
If the media continues to give substantial air time to this, which they will, they will show the enemy within just how successful they will be in creating panic and fear.
These upcoming events are well publicized and large enough to create weak (soft) areas where mayhem and chaos can occur with minimal resistance.
JMO
ddoering
06-13-2016, 11:47
I'm just glad that our Trillion dollar surveillance system is working so good.
Once the kids start dying, instead of targeting the muslims I see the American banning guns and removing our freedoms.
IIRC the exact scenario from that Forstchen book a few year back.
Don't know. I see this one though as being a recipe for 'copy cat' mayhem in the coming months against the LGTBQ community.
If the media continues to give substantial air time to this, which they will, they will show the enemy within just how successful they will be in creating panic and fear.
These upcoming events are well publicized and large enough to create weak (soft) areas where mayhem and chaos can occur with minimal resistance.
JMO
I meant that blaming / banning guns is likely to be an outcome
Old Dog New Trick
06-13-2016, 12:23
I meant that blaming / banning guns is likely to be an outcome
Oh, misread that.
Of course blaming the guns is #1 on the political bandwagon. How else would they react.
mark46th
06-13-2016, 14:11
Ok- I will be the insensitive troglodyte-
The club was packed. How many were there, 100? 200 people? And not one single person got behind him and hit him over the head with a chair or a bottle of Kristal? Not one person with the balls, courage or common sense to come up from behind and hit him over the fxxking head?.
Ok- I will be the insensitive troglodyte-
The club was packed. How many were there, 100? 200 people? And not one single person got behind him and hit him over the head with a chair or a bottle of Kristal? Not one person with the balls, courage or common sense to come up from behind and hit him over the fxxking head?.
The problem is...most people call the police because their neighbors music is too loud rather than walk themselves next door and ask/tell them to turn it down. We have a scared, self-absorbed populace.
You and I would have knocked him out cold if we had the opportunity. I can't see the majority of the populace doing it.
Oldrotorhead
06-13-2016, 14:17
Ok- I will be the insensitive troglodyte-
The club was packed. How many were there, 100? 200 people? And not one single person got behind him and hit him over the head with a chair or a bottle of Kristal? Not one person with the balls, courage or common sense to come up from behind and hit him over the fxxking head?.
You can't do that if your a texting mommy and it looks like no one had any inclination to help themselves. Maybe that will change but I doubt it.
The Reaper
06-13-2016, 14:24
Ok- I will be the insensitive troglodyte-
The club was packed. How many were there, 100? 200 people? And not one single person got behind him and hit him over the head with a chair or a bottle of Kristal? Not one person with the balls, courage or common sense to come up from behind and hit him over the fxxking head?.
This was Florida, and no one snuck in a concealed carry piece except for the shooter?
Maybe it is a cultural thing, or maybe it was a gun-free zone because of the alcohol being served.
Pity, regardless.
TR
ORLANDO MOSQUE TIED TO CASE HILLARY'S STATE DEPT SCRUBBED
Agency, DHS had 'concerns' about targeting Muslims
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2016/06/orlando-mosque-tied-to-case-hillarys-state-dept-scrubbed/#OJjhGdF7Xty88EDz.99
Ok- I will be the insensitive troglodyte-
The club was packed. How many were there, 100? 200 people? And not one single person got behind him and hit him over the head with a chair or a bottle of Kristal? Not one person with the balls, courage or common sense to come up from behind and hit him over the fxxking head?.
They are saying 200+ folks in the club. If those 50 would have rushed him he may have been able to kill 5-10 before they subdue him.
However, the targets in there are submissive C-type people (very much sheep) who do what they are told and normally do not stand up for themselves. So when in walks an A-type man they submit and as you can see here run away, they cower in the bathrooms.
Remember that most people are not like us nor think like us. That is why they need us in times like now.