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DIYPatriot
05-09-2016, 08:43
With this administration, my bet is that they get an award.
The U.S. Military Academy has launched an inquiry into a photo showing 16 black, female cadets in uniform with their fists raised, an image that has spurred questions about whether the gesture violates military restrictions on political activity.
West Point is looking into whether the photo broke any rules, Spokesman Lt. Col. Christopher Kasker said Saturday. It's unclear how long the inquiry will take and too soon to say what consequences it could have for the cadets, who are poised to graduate May 21.
By campus tradition, groups of cadets often take pictures in traditional dress uniforms to echo historical portraits of their cadets. Indeed, a different picture of the same women, without the raised fists, was tweeted out by the chairwoman of the academy's Board of Visitors, 1980 graduate Brenda Sue Fulton.
But the fists-up image, which circulated online, led some observers to question whether the women were expressing support for the Black Lives Matter movement, which grew out of protests over police killings of unarmed black men.
Continued (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/05/09/west-point-investigating-black-female-cadets-raised-fists-photo.html?intcmp=hpbt3)
they were holding up copies of their combat branch reassignment orders...
...the orders were printed on overhead projector sheets using invisible ink
nothing to see here
move along
Over-head projectors are still used ???
I though everything was done via power-point .... :confused:
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This picture was taken immediately after the group was asked how many times Army beat Navy in football in the last 13 years.
CAARNG 68W
05-09-2016, 13:15
Let's not give them what all females/women deeply crave - attention.
This picture was taken immediately after the group was asked how many times Army beat Navy in football in the last 13 years.
lol. This is by far the best reply/commentary I've seen regarding this whole affair.
RomanCandle
05-09-2016, 13:18
they were holding up copies of their combat branch reassignment orders...
...the orders were printed on overhead projector sheets using invisible ink
nothing to see here
move along
Combat Branch Reassignment Orders? Surely that should read: Gender Reassignment Orders. How else are future leaders going to be Intersectionality SMEs?
DIYPatriot
05-09-2016, 13:21
This picture was taken immediately after the group was asked how many times Army beat Navy in football in the last 13 years.
Hahaha! That's hilarious ;)
Let's not give them what all females/women deeply crave - attention.
Dass sexiss.
PedOncoDoc
05-09-2016, 16:43
This may just be my ignorance on the metrics, but why is West Point being labelled/ranked as a liberal arts college?
twistedsquid
05-09-2016, 17:00
This picture was taken immediately after the group was asked how many times Army beat Navy in football in the last 13 years.
Hahaha! Go Navy!
This may just be my ignorance on the metrics, but why is West Point being labelled/ranked as a liberal arts college?
Because of the core curriculum:
Chemistry 1-2 semesters
Physics 1-2 sem
Physical Geography 1 sem
Math Modeling 1 sem
Calculus 1-2 sem
Statistics 1 sem
Engineering electives 3 sem
Information Technology 1-2 sem
Composition 1 sem
Literature 1 sem
Philosophy 1 sem
Psychology 1 sem
Economics 1 sem
Political Science 1 sem
US History 1 sem
World History 1 sem
Military History 1 sem
International Relations 1 sem
Constitutional & Military Law 1 sem
Military Science 4 sem
Military Leadership 1 sem
Foreign Language 2-4 sem
Physical Education 3 sem
CAARNG 68W
05-09-2016, 17:58
Dass sexiss.
Yep yep, it is. But it came to my mind when I first heard this, I had a strong belief that Black male Cadets would not do something like this.
Yep yep, it is. But it came to my mind when I first heard this, I had a strong belief that Black male Cadets would not do something like this.
Dass raciss.
This will go nowhere. The "investigation" is all for show. Give it a few weeks too die down and leave the news and that will be that. No way to prove this was a political statement and frankly there is no real interest in proving it.
nothing to see here..
Team Sergeant
05-10-2016, 09:43
The West Point Black Panthers?
Coincidence?
Funny, if you visit some Black Panther websites you'll find images just like these. (And yeah I'm old enough to remember these idiots.)
I wonder if there would be an investigation into anyone at West Point wearing KKK hoods, in uniform.
Nah.
loretta lynch and obama says this just be Black Panther diversity........
When I see things like this, I am coming to fully understand that the only "standard" by which the populace in now going by is the "double standard."
Sad really!
Team Sergeant
05-10-2016, 09:56
You see in my Army, we'd toss those RACIST females off the grounds of West Point just as fast as we'd toss some KKK hood wearing West Point males.
But this is obama's military where racism is fine as long as it's blacks doing it.
Yeah, double standards.
The West Point Black Panthers?
Coincidence?
Funny, if you visit some Black Panther websites you'll find images just like these. (And yeah I'm old enough to remember these idiots.)
1968 Olympics:
Over 45 years of being the Vanguard of the Revolution.
And things are better now for inner city folks? Or worse?
Over 45 years of being the Vanguard of the Revolution.
And things are better now for inner city folks? Or worse?
MOO, variations of this question are the best way to counter radicalism.
I wonder if there would be an investigation into anyone at West Point wearing KKK hoods, in uniform.
Not USMA, but the same idea:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/26/us/citadel-punishes-students-for-costumes-evoking-the-kkk.html?_r=0
Old Dog New Trick
05-10-2016, 13:58
Scotland has no tolerance for poor taste, bad judgment and terrible humor.
Check out this article from USA TODAY:
Man arrested after training dog to do Nazi salute in video
http://usat.ly/1T9o3rn
Diversity is only acceptable if it's one-sided and caters to an agenda driven by social underlings.
Could you imagine the uproar if 16 Caucasian women representing the USMA in uniform stood in that same spot and posted their picture on social media?
It's not a 'Double Standard' it's the acceptance of intolerance directed at the majority.
ddoering
05-10-2016, 14:08
This will go nowhere. The "investigation" is all for show. Give it a few weeks too die down and leave the news and that will be that. No way to prove this was a political statement and frankly there is no real interest in proving it.
nothing to see here..
Scrawl TRUMP on the sidewalk there and see what happens.
Time these libs got trumped.
ddoering
05-11-2016, 06:57
Nothing to see here. Investigation is complete. http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/west-point-clears-cadets-who-raised-fists-controversial-photo-n571751
Perhaps West Point should be conducting the Hillary email investigation or the IRS scandal.
Nothing to see here. Investigation is complete. http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/west-point-clears-cadets-who-raised-fists-controversial-photo-n571751
Perhaps West Point should be conducting the Hillary email investigation or the IRS scandal.
That was faster than I thought. Very efficient.
DIYPatriot
05-11-2016, 08:07
That was faster than I thought. Very efficient.
When sweeping things under the rug, one must use expedient efficiency. I'm just relieved to know that everyone is on the same page and that we're all training to the same standards.
The Citadel's response to their situation:
The president of the Citadel, Lt. Gen. John W. Rosa, announced in December that the military college was investigating “offensive and disturbing” images of cadets wearing white clothes and pointed hoods with eyeholes that were posted on Facebook. On Monday, the Citadel released a statement with the results of that investigation, quoting General Rosa as saying that while the cadets used poor judgment, they “did not intend to be offensive.” But he said he was disappointed that some cadets recognized that the pillowcases could be construed as offensive, and yet did nothing to stop it.
“It demonstrates that we must integrate an even higher level of diversity education into cadets’ daily activities,” General Rosa said, “and into the already extensive leadership and ethics curriculum.”
Of those punished, seven were freshmen and seven were juniors. One junior was dismissed, meaning the cadet must spend two semesters away from campus, and two juniors were suspended, which requires them to spend one semester away from campus. Eleven cadets were given punishments of hourlong marches; such punishments can number from 40 to 120 marches.
The USMA's response to their situation:
West Point said, the young women weren't promoting anything. It was just one picture of many recreating "old corps" photos in a nod to the school's 19th century predecessors — part of a tradition on campus.
Academy officials asked students to be mindful of appearances.
"As members of the Profession of Arms, we are held to a high standard, where our actions are constantly observed and scrutinized in the public domain," Lt. Gen. Robert L. Caslen, Jr., academy superintendent, said in a letter to the campus. "We all must understand that a symbol or gesture that one group of people may find harmless may offend others. As Army officers, we are not afforded the luxury of a lack of awareness of how we are perceived."
The women are still set to graduate May 21, but will be afforded counseling prior to the ceremony, the Army Times reported.
So if they were recreating old corp photos where is an example of it. When I served I always felt the West Pointers were a cut above the rest. I weep for the direction of our nation. Those of us born shortly after WWII have seen the best years of our country.
...meanwhile SF guys get hassled for wearing a baseball hat on the FOB.
Last hard class
05-11-2016, 09:09
You guys need to learn how to spin things better. Take lessons from a counter accusation pro like
Rachel VanLandingham, a retired air force lieutenant colonel and judge advocate and associate law professor at Southwestern Law School:
"I think if there had been a bunch of white boys in their cadet uniforms, or footballers, this would not have been an issue"
"But, because it's black women"
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjuzbPvoNLMAhUOy2MKHYqUCq4QqQIIHjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fus-news%2F2016%2Fmay%2F10%2Fwest-point-black-power-photo-a-tempest-in-a-teapot-experts-say&usg=AFQjCNHI219gBsPQLXULXc-EVRCyCtoBaQ
Like my cable company. For years they used to force me to get on a minimum 2 year contract. Now they tell me if I hurry I can lock in a set rate for two years.
Doesn't that taste a lot better?
LHC
I wonder if she has ever heard the legend of the college lacrosse team that got railroaded by a two bit whore claiming made up rape charges...
Since clearly it wouldn't have been an issue if it was just a group a white athletes.
Its always about color isn't it Rachel...
Ms VanLandingham is cordially invited to defecate in her favorite hat and pull it snuggly down over her ears.
Those of us born shortly after WWII have seen the best years of our country.
Ah yes, "the good old days"! I was born during the war, and "they weren't quite as good as they have been made out to be. :munchin
Not USMA, but the same idea:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/26/us/citadel-punishes-students-for-costumes-evoking-the-kkk.html?_r=0
Sounds like a remake of The Lords of Discipline.
Pat
PedOncoDoc
05-11-2016, 10:26
Sounds like a remake of The Lords of Discipline.
Pat
Which, in turn, sounds like a great name for an LGBTQ S&M club. :D
Let's not give them what all females/women deeply crave - attention.
Dass sexiss.
Yep yep, it is. But it came to my mind when I first heard this, I had a strong belief that Black male Cadets would not do something like this.
Dass raciss.
I'm sorry, but that is the funniest back and forth I've read in a long time! I literally spewed coffee on my monitor and keyboard, and a couple coworkers came into the armory to see if I was alright :D:D:D
Glad you're back Dusty :lifter
MOO, the findings of the investigation <<LINK (http://www.usma.edu/news/Shared%20Documents/Redacted%20Inquiry%20Results.pdf)>> are unconvincing, especially 4(c). A cadet indicated that it was a bad idea and one minute was enough time for someone to say/do the right thing.
IRT comparisons of the KKK to the Black Panthers, IMO, historical amnesia does not help stop the spread of race-based radicalism in America--it just fans the flames. (Who was worse off: blacks in the South in the late 1860s, Catholics in Indiana in the 1920s, or whites in Oakland, Richmond (CA), or Chicago in the late 1960s? )
Team Sergeant
07-08-2016, 10:41
Same fi..... nah got to be imagining this......
Old Dog New Trick
07-08-2016, 10:46
Same fi..... nah got to be imagining this......
Quick, wake yourself up! The dream will become a reality.