View Full Version : A vote for Trump is a vote for gun control
Roguish Lawyer
04-22-2016, 08:30
Exhibit 4,572: http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/04/chelsea-clinton-now-scalias-gone/
Don't worry RL. When you get your wish and HRC is elected you'll get all the gun control you can handle.
Or you can get on the Trump Train and get him and other Republicans down ticket elected.
Funny, how Chelsea looks to have inherited her parents proclivity for FIM (foot in mouth) disorder..
:munchin
It's too late for this...and such only hurts our chances to defeat the true enemy...Hitlery.
Time to swallow the goldilocks nit-picking (I swallowed mine long ago), unite together and get the commies out of the WH.
Funny, how Chelsea looks to have inherited her parents proclivity for FIM (foot in mouth) disorder..
:munchinMust be a good disorder too have because, according to some google-fu, her networth is $10-15mil.:confused:
Must be a good disorder too have because, according to some google-fu, her networth is $10-15mil.:confused:
And I'm sure that money has no ties to foreign governments and/or lobbyists, or was used to influence or buy access to her mother and father.
A vote for Trump is a vote for gun control
How so RL?
How so RL?
Because Trump loses to Killary.
She will debate circles around him and his only chance will be that she is indicted.
The likelihood of that happening is about as likely as project Dianne being scrapped due to a revelation of common sense.
Because Trump loses to Killary.
She will debate circles around him and his only chance will be that she is indicted.
The likelihood of that happening is about as likely as project Dianne being scrapped due to a revelation of common sense.
Anything is possible, how would Cruz fair against Hillary with speakers of tongues, snake charmers and preaching fire and brimstone. Cruz is only about a brick shy of jumping in to my GG-Grandfather JD's traveling Southern Baptist minister shoes, beating on the pulpit with one hand and the other hand raised high holding the WORD OF GOD!
AMEN!
But......the question was how does a vote for Trump equate to a vote for gun control?
Anything is possible, how would Cruz fair against Hillary with speakers of tongues, snake charmers and preaching fire and brimstone. Cruz is only about a brick shy of jumping in to my GG-Grandfather JD's traveling Southern Baptist minister shoes, beating on the pulpit with one hand and the other hand raised high holding the WORD OF GOD!
AMEN!
But......the question was how does a vote for Trump equate to a vote for gun control?
Cmon, who let Roger Stone hack Paslode's account!
Cruz will fair better in the general than Trump. The race will not be decided today and there will be time for the candidates to debate eachother..........
Something that Trump refuses to do now that he doesn't have a plethora of people on stage to interrupt.
But hey, he won his home state with just over 25% of the democrat vote. So I guess there is that.
ddoering
04-23-2016, 06:31
Because Trump loses to Killary.
She will debate circles around him and his only chance will be that she is indicted.
The likelihood of that happening is about as likely as project Dianne being scrapped due to a revelation of common sense.
And when she enacts gun control the 2d Revolution will begin. I don't see the problem.
And when she enacts gun control the 2d Revolution will begin. I don't see the problem.
+1.
Oldrotorhead
04-23-2016, 10:49
Two Nations once again!:munchin
Cmon, who let Roger Stone hack Paslode's account!
Cruz will fair better in the general than Trump. The race will not be decided today and there will be time for the candidates to debate eachother..........
Something that Trump refuses to do now that he doesn't have a plethora of people on stage to interrupt.
But hey, he won his home state with just over 25% of the democrat vote. So I guess there is that.
Roger Stone is the man!
Well....
In your opinion Cruz is a fair better. Cruz maybe a better debater than Trump, but all that really means is Cruz can argue his point, argue like an Attorney. It doesn't matter if the point is right or wrong it is a matter of proving ones point on a subject.
Attorneys argue that their pedophile clients are guiltless and/or coerced into their behavior by little boys anfd girls/or deserve mercy becasue they are products of their childhood environment . If the Judge or Jury buys into their debate the Pedophile gets their walking papers or a 15 year sentence with the possibility of early release.
$5 Dollar Foot Long.....Ted Cruz is such a good debator he probably could have (if he chose to) gotten Subway Jared off with time served and compensated for his time in the slammer.
And when she enacts gun control the 2d Revolution will begin. I don't see the problem.
If HRC gets into office, that is what I am thinking.
Team Sergeant
04-23-2016, 18:31
Cruz will fair better in the general than Trump.
In my opinion Cruz will only fair better in the GOP world. And if you look at recent stats of public approval of the senate and house you'll see it's at an all time low. And the very reason I will be voting for Mr. Trump. I for one want American great again.
A vote for Trump is a vote for gun control
In case anyone was concerned, the follow link fully explains Trump's Position.
PROTECTING OUR SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS WILL MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
Donald J. Trump on the Right to Keep and Bear Arms
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/second-amendment-rights
Trapper John
05-07-2016, 12:10
Glad you brought that point up Penn! Entirely too much misinformation/disinformation being promulgated. :lifter
Roguish Lawyer
05-07-2016, 14:56
In case anyone was concerned, the follow link fully explains Trump's Position.
PROTECTING OUR SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS WILL MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
Donald J. Trump on the Right to Keep and Bear Arms
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/second-amendment-rights
Your problem is you believe what he says.
Your problem is you believe what he says.
That remark can be made of any candidate and many of their followers. For instance Glenn Beck and Rafeal Cruz belive that Ted has been chosen by Christ, and many of their devotees have bought into that hook, line and sinker.
Your problem is you believe what he says.
No, my problem is that I absolutely believe that Hillary will do what she believes.
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/hillary-clinton-dead-aim-gun-violence-article-1.2578190
"It's time — long past time — that we do what it takes to put a stop to it. Not just in some neighborhoods or some cities — but in every corner of this country where guns continue to destroy innocent lives."
That remark can be made of any candidate and many of their followers. For instance Glenn Beck and Rafeal Cruz belive that Ted has been chosen by Christ, and many of their devotees have bought into that hook, line and sinker.
To a degree. I've said it in other posts, "actions speak louder than words", or so my Father told me. The very words we tend use to judge who we associate ourselves with. But, it seems, when it comes to political candidates, especially the Presidency, we decide to suspend that philosophy and judge them by the words that come out of their mouths as if they don't have a history of behavior to look back at. Say what you want about not liking Cruz, or sounding like a preacher (he does), or whatever else. His past shows that he is what he says he is (was). Trumps rhetoric, most of it anyway, is opposite to his past behavior.
I don't have the luxury of "hoping" he will behave as he says he will.
But, I'd still rather have him than Hillary.:mad:
Lol, reason number 4,917 to vote for Trump and not sit it out...
These Celebrities Say They'd Leave the Country If Trump Wins
http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/02/29/celebrities-say-theyll-leave-country-if-donald-trump-wins
Team Sergeant
05-20-2016, 13:50
:munchin
Trumps wins NRA endorsement, blasts Clinton on gun stance at forum
Published May 20, 2016
· FoxNews.com
The National Rifle Association threw its weight Friday behind Donald Trump, as the presumptive Republican presidential nominee personally assured the group’s members he would protect Second Amendment rights if elected – and claimed that likely Democratic rival Hillary Clinton would threaten them.
The billionaire businessman and leaders of the nation’s powerful gun lobby joined forces as they amplified warnings that the Supreme Court vacancy only raises the stakes for gun owners in this election. Trump, speaking to the NRA-ILA (Institute for Legislative Action) forum in Louisville, Ky., even challenged Clinton on Friday to release a list of her potential Supreme Court nominees, after he did so earlier this week.
“I would like for Hillary Clinton to put a list together also, and I want to see what the list consists of,” he said. “It will be day and night, it won’t be good for the people in this room and the country.”
He charged, “Hillary Clinton wants to abolish the Second Amendment.”
He addressed the NRA-ILA forum moments after Executive Director Chris Cox announced the group’s Trump endorsement.
cont:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/05/20/trumps-wins-nra-endorsement-blasts-clinton-on-gun-stance-at-forum.html?intcmp=hpbt1
Oldrotorhead
05-20-2016, 14:38
Lol, reason number 4,917 to vote for Trump and not sit it out...
These Celebrities Say They'd Leave the Country If Trump Wins
http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/02/29/celebrities-say-theyll-leave-country-if-donald-trump-wins
I don't think any of they are going to Mexico. Por que no?
I don't think any of they are going to Mexico. Por que no?
Mexico will not let just anybody in, I hope the door hits em all in the ass on their way out.
Nice to see...another slice of the base on the road to unity.
According to Breitbart, Trump said on 13 June 2016 (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/06/13/donald-trump-i-will-consult-nra-on-how-americans-can-defend-themselves/).I will be meeting with the NRA–which has given me their earliest endorsement in a presidential race–to discuss how to insure Americans have the means to protect themselves in this age of terror. I will be always defending the Second Amendment.
Today on Twitter, Trump said:I will be meeting with the NRA, who has endorsed me, about not allowing people on the terrorist watch list, or the no fly list, to buy guns.Is this a case of Trump not staying on message or is this a case of Trump tipping his hand?
GratefulCitizen
06-15-2016, 18:13
Triangulation.
Trump pays lip service to "enforcing existing gun laws" and "keeping guns out of the hands of terrorists" while the emotions are hot.
This forces his political adversaries to move farther left to distinguish themselves.
Then he can abandon his previous lip service and proceed to attack them for trying to undermine the 2nd Amendment.
He's playing the same political game they are.
doctom54
06-15-2016, 19:48
I don't always agree with him.
However, he sees there is a problem (at least in the public perception with this AH being able to buy an AR) and he is willing to talk with people NRA who understand it better.
If he does this on a lot of issues; going to the best sources he will do ok
I don't always agree with him.
However, he sees there is a problem (at least in the public perception with this AH being able to buy an AR) and he is willing to talk with people NRA who understand it better.
If he does this on a lot of issues; going to the best sources he will do ok
You don't think that we will not all end up on a "watch-list"? Diagnosed with PTSD: we've got a watch-list for that. Been in the military: We've got a watch-list for that. Ever bought a funny looking gun: We've got a watch-list for that. Ever bought any gun: We've got a watch-list for that. Ever been on PS.com: We've got a watch-list for that.
The only part of the camel that is not in the tent is the tail. And this camel may be a bobtail.
Pat
doctom54
06-15-2016, 21:39
You don't think that we will not all end up on a "watch-list"? Diagnosed with PTSD: we've got a watch-list for that. Been in the military: We've got a watch-list for that. Ever bought a funny looking gun: We've got a watch-list for that. Ever bought any gun: We've got a watch-list for that. Ever been on PS.com: We've got a watch-list for that.
The only part of the camel that is not in the tent is the tail. And this camel may be a bobtail.
Pat
Pat
I figure I've been on All the lists since THEY started making them. (Well except for the PTSD). Probably being a member on this board puts you at the top of the list:rolleyes:
Pericles
06-16-2016, 14:05
Pat
I figure I've been on All the lists since THEY started making them. (Well except for the PTSD). Probably being a member on this board puts you at the top of the list:rolleyes:
I hope so. I hate it when my name is not at the top of a list.
Badger52
06-16-2016, 16:39
Nowadays if you're not on one of their lists you've either assumed room temp or you're doing it wrong.
Basenshukai
06-16-2016, 16:44
Funny, how Chelsea looks to have inherited her parents proclivity for FIM (foot in mouth) disorder..
:munchin
No. It's not that. It is the "no consequences" syndrome.
Don't worry RL. When you get your wish and HRC is elected you'll get all the gun control you can handle.
Or you can get on the Trump Train and get him and other Republicans down ticket elected.
You mean like in Indiana where the conservatives were passed over and the evil GOPe candidates were nominated?
This guy is a joke and should not be trusted with the future of our country.
Of course, neither should HRC.
Fuck Trump, Fuck all of the Clintons. We are once again given a choice between a douche and turd sandwich.
You mean like in Indiana where the conservatives were passed over and the evil GOPe candidates were nominated?
This guy is a joke and should not be trusted with the future of our country.
Of course, neither should HRC.
Fuck Trump, Fuck all of the Clintons. We are once again given a choice between a douche and turd sandwich.
Would you rather have Ted Cruz? Would a vote for Cruz have been a vote for the death of homo's?
https://amp.twimg.com/v/adf2fa8b-2b00-42d4-a9ac-3e922a3be22d
Guilt by association.....
Would you rather have Ted Cruz? Would a vote for Cruz have been a vote for the death of homo's?
https://amp.twimg.com/v/adf2fa8b-2b00-42d4-a9ac-3e922a3be22d
Guilt by association.....
In my opinion, I take more pride in supporting someone who actually stands on principles..........regardless of what is said at Trump rallies than just falling in line like Scottie Nell-Hughes tells me to.
I was a huge proponent of what he was doing last year, it seems like as soon as 2016 hit, it was all down hill from there.
The bottom line is that we are fucked, and you and the other Trumpsters will do nothing but send the blame to the conservative side of the house, blaming us for not "getting on board".
I may vote for him, or maybe I wont.............but since you are, a special pleader for the orange faced totalitarian...............
I would really like to know what makes this jack wagon so special after all the times he has stepped on his crank.
Not to mention alienating the conservative side of the house whilst running a 3rd party campaign within the republican primary.
Ohhh....be nice to me or else Im going to consider running 3rd party.
Mills:
Fuck Trump, Fuck all of the Clintons. We are once again given a choice between a douche and turd sandwich.
Are you suggesting we find a Neocon to resolve the current world wide upheaval, consisting of mass migration, societal implosion, and constant global warfare?
Isn’t that a Neocon premise, that there will always be conflict, therefore it should be embraced, engaged, and used to further our, (their neocon) interest?
If this age proves anything, it firmly buries the Wilsonian concept, (our bedrock foreign policy position) of bringing democracy to the world.
Interventionist Neocon’s misread, misunderstood, and have delivered us to the brink of global warfare and completed multi-state failure.
Actors like Assad, and his ilk are culturally specific results, of a culturally specific, ingrained, authoritarian, dictatorial, Theo/autocratic society. There is no possible gain in attempting to foster a new/regime change in a geo-political/religiously based society. The parallel argument is Mao’s China.
That said, this election concerns one issue. The Supreme Court. Everything else is bullshit. Vote like your great-great grand children would write you a thank you note, other than that, whatever your position, this is not about the 25 meter target.
Team Sergeant
06-18-2016, 11:23
In my opinion, I take more pride in supporting someone who actually stands on principles..........regardless of what is said at Trump rallies than just falling in line like Scottie Nell-Hughes tells me to.
I was a huge proponent of what he was doing last year, it seems like as soon as 2016 hit, it was all down hill from there.
The bottom line is that we are fucked, and you and the other Trumpsters will do nothing but send the blame to the conservative side of the house, blaming us for not "getting on board".
I may vote for him, or maybe I wont.............but since you are, a special pleader for the orange faced totalitarian...............
I would really like to know what makes this jack wagon so special after all the times he has stepped on his crank.
Not to mention alienating the conservative side of the house whilst running a 3rd party campaign within the republican primary.
Ohhh....be nice to me or else Im going to consider running 3rd party.
No I think it's great that when a member of the GOP wins the nomination that everyone wants to quit. Makes perfect sense. The socialists are laughing their collective asses off right now.
This is why I've said years ago the GOP was dead, united they stand , divided they're conquered. Smart thinking. :munchin
Badger52
06-18-2016, 12:53
I would really like to know what makes this jack wagon so special after all the times he has stepped on his crank.
Many would call that refusing to parse words to avoid not pandering to the constituency of the moment. If people get their panties in a wad, tough.
Not to mention alienating the conservative side of the house whilst running a 3rd party campaign within the republican primary.
The GOPe (known as the Dead Elephant party for a reason) made that bed; they can lie in it. The camel is already demolishing their tent and it's time for some redecoratin'. So many seem to be for a 3rd party against the current corrupt system until one actually seems to be working. And he's done it in their own structure; so call it what you want. I don't regard him as a savior of any kind; I think he's a savvy businessman who knows how to surround himself with really sharp people - we already know what the current POTUS and the psycho-broad in the wings regard as "smart" and have seen the results.
Well I guess I better jump on the Trump train then. choo choo.
All Aboard for meeting with the NRA about restricting second amendment rights without an additional Amendment, partial birth abortions, men using women's bathrooms..... and yes the full integration of women integration of women in combat arms.
Team Sergeant
06-19-2016, 11:35
Well I guess I better jump on the Trump train then. choo choo.
All Aboard for meeting with the NRA about restricting second amendment rights without an additional Amendment, partial birth abortions, men using women's bathrooms..... and yes the full integration of women integration of women in combat arms.
Need to pick your battles.
Women in combat will be a self correcting issue once women go hands on with the enemy.......
Team Sergeant
04-28-2017, 15:20
Your problem is you believe what he says.
Trump at NRA convention: 'Eight-year assault' on gun rights is over
Published April 28, 2017
· Fox News
On the eve of his 100th day in office, President Trump rallied a convention of the National Rifle Association by vowing to "never, ever infringe" on Second Amendment rights and declaring his predecessor's alleged "assault" on those freedoms is over.
“I am here to deliver you good news: the eight-year assault on your Second Amendment freedoms has come to a crashing end,” Trump told the cheering crowd.
Trump is the first sitting president to address an NRA convention in more than three decades. The last president to do so was Ronald Reagan in 1983.
Trump started his address with a freewheeling recollection of his November election victory, crediting the gun rights group for helping him win. "You came through for me and I am going to come through for you," he said.
cont:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/04/28/trump-at-nra-convention-eight-year-assault-on-gun-rights-is-over.html
This thread was started almost exactly a year ago. That seems like a LONG time ago, now. Pretty entertaining re-read, though. ;)
Pat
frostfire
04-28-2017, 20:07
“I am here to deliver you good news: the eight-year assault on your Second Amendment freedoms has come to a crashing end,” Trump told the cheering crowd.
I'll fully believe this when the NFA is appealed and the HPA is approved.
I'll post in the happy section when I can buy a can as easy as a car muffler :munchin
This thread was started almost exactly a year ago. That seems like a LONG time ago, now. Pretty entertaining re-read, though. ;)
Pat
I'll fully believe this when the NFA is appealed and the HPA is approved.
I'll post in the happy section when I can buy a can as easy as a car muffler :munchin
You're telling me!
I'm watching from a distance in the land of mirorr opposite.
Firearms require licenses here, but cans are totally unrestricted health and safety issue.
frostfire
04-29-2017, 05:49
Firearms require licenses here, but cans are totally unrestricted health and safety issue.
DOH! *slaps forehead*
I guess your rule makers over yonder do not base their judgment on Hollywood?
As much as I subscribe to "shall not be infringed," I am not opposed to CCW type class before being able to purchase firearm. After all, the times have changed from days of personal responsibility and marksmanship as part of American childhood
DOH! *slaps forehead*
I guess your rule makers over yonder do not base their judgment on Hollywood?
As much as I subscribe to "shall not be infringed," I am not opposed to CCW type class before being able to purchase firearm. After all, the times have changed from days of personal responsibility and marksmanship as part of American childhood
Yeah, for us it's not a fundamental right, but a privilege.
Hunting rifles and semi auto rifles meeting requirements(no freestanding pistol grips, no flash suppressor, no bayonet lugs, and mag capacity <7) are easy to get on Basic A class firearms license endorsement.
An A cat endorsement is easy to get. You need two referees that are interviewed. A background check. A home visit is made to ensure you have minimum standards for firearms security. And you have to take a single firearms safety class and take a test which you are coached on.
Pistol B endorsement is a lot more stringent and all are registered.
Military E and Collector C endorsements are also stringent and registered. You can own pretty much everything from an old Maxim to a Russian PK, up to an including a 20 mm Oerlikon and 40mm Bofors.
Cans are common sense. Anyone can buy them and are encouraged to do so.
So a mix of privilege(rather than right) and common sense.
Roguish Lawyer
04-30-2017, 18:45
Trump at NRA convention: 'Eight-year assault' on gun rights is over
Published April 28, 2017
· Fox News
On the eve of his 100th day in office, President Trump rallied a convention of the National Rifle Association by vowing to "never, ever infringe" on Second Amendment rights and declaring his predecessor's alleged "assault" on those freedoms is over.
“I am here to deliver you good news: the eight-year assault on your Second Amendment freedoms has come to a crashing end,” Trump told the cheering crowd.
Trump is the first sitting president to address an NRA convention in more than three decades. The last president to do so was Ronald Reagan in 1983.
Trump started his address with a freewheeling recollection of his November election victory, crediting the gun rights group for helping him win. "You came through for me and I am going to come through for you," he said.
cont:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/04/28/trump-at-nra-convention-eight-year-assault-on-gun-rights-is-over.html
So far I have been pleasantly surprised by President Trump. That said, he was the wrong nominee and it remains to be seen what he will accomplish.
rubberneck
04-30-2017, 21:58
So far I have been pleasantly surprised by President Trump. That said, he was the wrong nominee and it remains to be seen what he will accomplish.
Thank god for the "wrong" nominee, as the "right" one (Cruz) would have lost the general election and the second amendment would be on the wrong side of a 5-4 SCOTUS.
Thank god for the "wrong" nominee, as the "right" one (Cruz) would have lost the general election and the second amendment would be on the wrong side of a 5-4 SCOTUS.
I agree. The real prize of this election was SCOTUS nominee (s). Although not of immediate concern to the masses I personally think that it is critical that Trump is trying to straighten out the mess that was Obama's foreign policy and reestablish at least some of the order that existed before.
That Trump is not waltzing legislation thru is due to the simple fact that he is and always will be a third party candidate disliked by BOTH parties. He outplayed the R 'establishment' and they only really supported him out of their own selfish interests .. and maybe because the thought of Hillary appointing justices was so scary.
I'll fully believe this when the NFA is appealed and the HPA is approved.
I'll post in the happy section when I can buy a can as easy as a car muffler :munchin
HSA will not pass this year. Our best chance is in 2018 when congresscritters are all up for reelection. Even then that depends on what kind of hate the Left gens up going into Nov. 6, 2018.
NFA repeal in not even on the table.
There is discussion in disbanding BATF&E - by splitting sections into departments within the FBI.
We are seeing encouraging movement in national CCP/CCW reciprocity. Maybe in 2018 too.
If you want to see effective reform and 2A protections donate/volunteer with NAGR.org or GunOwners.org
If you want to see effective reform and 2A protections donate/volunteer with NAGR.org or GunOwners.org
I know nothing of volunteering MR2, what type of work would one volunteering with either of those two organizations do to further the cause?
As simple as testifying for/against a bill in your state legislator. Diligently calling/emailing/visiting with your elected representatives at the local/state/federal level whenever you can. Attend training. Learn to be politically effective - much better than "posting on Facebook". That works too.
Run for office. More 2A oppression goes on at the city level than anywhere else. That BS peculates upward.
NAGR employs people to lobby, write legislation, work on local/national campaigns. GOA does similar things.
In CO we're going back to the courts to overturn the mag limit statute. That takes money. We are recruiting candidates to maintain the senate, have a good shot at taking the house, and even chance to taking the governors mansion in 2018.