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Brush Okie
04-18-2016, 11:01
Getting some ideas for my 30-06. For years my favorite load was 50gr IMR 4064 with a federal match primer behind a 165 or 168 sierra bullet.

I am thinking about working up some long range loads using the Sierra 190 gr match. I think I will start with 4350 powder.

Ideas or thoughts?

Please list you favorite 30-06 loads for any weight. After the 190 gr is worked up I thing I will look at 125 gr loads as well.

Badger52
04-18-2016, 16:20
This is out of a specific M700 so take with proverbial grain of salt.

My favorite general (and scary accurate) load was:
Hornady 165 Spire Pt ahead of 57.0 H-414, mag primer, OAL 3.230
Moving about .308 velocity; most pleasant & very accurate as a go-to.

Couple of 150gr spitzer load favorites (same gun, #1 son has it now) are:
59.0 IMR-4350, mag primer, OAL 3.230
61.0 RL-19, mag primer, OAL 3.260 (tip variations more than Nosler admits but this is the kid's "cover a corn field" load)

My elk load with a 180gr Partition used 57.0 IMR-4350 OAL 3.230.
This load is in the area of "gettin' up there" so watch your pressures. I never had a problem but keep an eye on it.

All W-W brass fired in that gun; all WLRM primers.
Had some others in the notebook but they're for an M1.
Have fun. :cool:

Peregrino
04-18-2016, 19:58
H4350 is my "go to" powder for 30-06 and 300WM. 57 gr. with S168 HPBTM and 55 gr. for S190 HPBTM. I'll have to go back and find my Chrony printouts to get velocities. Note - the 30-06 loads are for my W70. Under no circumstances are they safe in a Garand.

For those that are interested, 67 gr pushes a S190 HPBTM out of the 300WM at 2900. It's my 1000 yd load and works very well (as long as I don't screw the wind call).

Badger52
04-18-2016, 20:55
One thing I do remember from when I worked up that 180gr elk load, as well as the kid's 150gr load & I was chrono'ing the krap out of everything against acceptable accuracy. The 30-06 as a caliber really showed its wonderful & well-known character in that there were clearly defined performance curves where the reduced accuracy loads are one thing, then you journey through the middle-ground of so-so performance, and then get to the hotter end of the scale near the area where the books & their lawyers get nervous. Properly done & worked up to it's quite possible to get alot out of this round, probably why it remains my all-time favorite. Was quite a bit of fun to work up a 180gr Partition that would do MOA and got 2800 out of a 22" barrel. (It wasn't the most pleasant to shoot, but completely unnoticed when there's a big elk out there... well, he noticed it.)

A cartridge made to have fun with.

Brush Okie
04-18-2016, 22:36
59.0 IMR-4350, mag primer, OAL 3.230
61.0 RL-19, mag primer, OAL 3.260 (tip variations more than Nosler admits but this is the kid's "cover a corn field" load)

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What is your experience with mag primers? I have found they increase pressure and went to standard years ago, but I am not above learning something new. My understanding is they are supposed to give more consistent ignition. I found on a hot day (100+) my load, in my chamber at the time the bolt would get a little sticky. That was a tight chamber in a Shilin barrel I had built in 1989. I have since barrelled that rifle.

Badger52
04-19-2016, 06:05
What is your experience with mag primers? I have found they increase pressure and went to standard years ago, but I am not above learning something new. My understanding is they are supposed to give more consistent ignition. I found on a hot day (100+) my load, in my chamber at the time the bolt would get a little sticky. That was a tight chamber in a Shilin barrel I had built in 1989. I have since barrelled that rifle.My use of them was for consistency of ignition under cold conditions which is traditionally the period they'd be used. I've nothing against standard primers and have some other loads/calibers where I use standard. If you're in a hot weather situation your mileage may vary as to the whole load development (the reason we work these things up gradually). I've not had a situation where the primer itself was the cause of such a thing but more because the load simply needed to be backed down in the first place. But the primer contributes so, when one thinks they're nearing an optimum load, try both & document. I've never gone for sheer velocity; it just worked out a couple times that a good hunting load was up there. In practical terms I could've used an accuracy load down at the other end as well & doubt the animal would know the difference.

Brush Okie
04-19-2016, 10:27
My use of them was for consistency of ignition under cold conditions which is traditionally the period they'd be used. I've nothing against standard primers and have some other loads/calibers where I use standard. If you're in a hot weather situation your mileage may vary as to the whole load development (the reason we work these things up gradually). I've not had a situation where the primer itself was the cause of such a thing but more because the load simply needed to be backed down in the first place. But the primer contributes so, when one thinks they're nearing an optimum load, try both & document. I've never gone for sheer velocity; it just worked out a couple times that a good hunting load was up there. In practical terms I could've used an accuracy load down at the other end as well & doubt the animal would know the difference.

My inital load was 50.5 gr of 4064 however I backed off of that to 50 and standard primer. I don't like being on the ragged edge. My Lyman book shows max 52 gr for the 165 and 50 for the 168.

I might try 4350 load like above for those just for kicks

Badger52
04-19-2016, 11:58
I don't like being on the ragged edge.Me either - I like my rifle-specific brass to stay that way for awhile.
:D

frostfire
04-19-2016, 14:55
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXaaybiRiYY

You should acquire these, Brush....you know, to account for that once-in-a-blue-moon poor shot placement :D

Dusty
04-20-2016, 07:40
I like regular ol' 180 corelokts.

pcfixer
04-23-2016, 07:12
My go to powder is IMR 4064, 48.7 gr behind a 150 gr Hornady Interlock BT SP
has a BC of .349. I use WLR primers #8 1/2.
Accuracy in my 30.06 less than 1 MOA at 100 yds. Bolt action Springfield / Tinmey trigger with Douglass premium barrel on Carlson Carbolite stock.

I have tried numerous other powders, best accuracy with most any 150 grain bullet

Troop
05-02-2016, 11:54
My 30-06 does pretty well with 58.5 grains H4350 and a 168 Barnes TSX as an elk load. I get 2880 fps and at least MOA consistently with this combo.