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Sdiver
01-16-2016, 16:14
Went and saw it yesterday with my little brother. Theater was sold out, and so was the first theater we looked at. Had to go cross town to find one that had seats.

Let's just say .... Hollywood finally got one right.

’13 Hours’ Review: Riveting Indictment of Obama, Hillary, and The DC Media

Director Michael Bay’s riveting, heartbreaking, and infuriating “13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi” opens with five simple words: “This Is a True Story.” What it should have read was, “This Is a True Story The Media Has Covered Up For Years.”

God damn these people to Hell.

Let me start things off by pointing and laughing at George Clooney, Robert Redford, Meryl Streep, Tim Robbins, John Cusack, Leonardo Di Caprio, Paul Greengrass, Matt Damon, and Paul Haggis — all of whom made films critical of a sitting president’s foreign policy that ended up being, not only box office catastrophes, but creative embarrassments; completely forgettable, preachy, pedantic, just plain lousy movies no one will ever see again.

Now I have even worse news for them…

Michael Bay — you know, the guy who makes those “Transformers” movies — just made a film critical of a sitting president’s foreign policy, and knocked it straight out of the park.

Bay’s “13 Hours” is not only a compelling, unbearably tense, brilliantly choreographed action film, but like a true artist, he does not stoop to being preachy or pedantic to make a damning case against a Obama Administration, that not only has a depraved indifference towards the truth, but also towards American lives.

On September 11, 2012, a horde of armed terrorists launched nothing close to a protest spurred by an anti-Muslim YouTube video. There is no question the attack against our diplomatic compound in Benghazi, Libya, was coordinated, swift and deadly. Despite repeated pleas for additional security (all ignored by Hillary Clinton’s State Department), Ambassador Chris Stevens had only unreliable locals and a handful of State Department agents protecting him.

The battle was lost before it began.

Just a mile away was our not-so-secret CIA outpost. As soon as the militants hit, the outpost called the CIA annex begging for help. Within minutes, six security contractors stationed there, all former special forces-operators, were ready to launch a rescue mission. The CIA annex chief (David Costabile) refused to let them go. Repeatedly, the six men are ordered to stand down.

For 20 agonizing minutes, Jack (John Krasinski), Rone (James Badge Dale), Oz (Max Martini), Tanto (Pablo Schreiber), Tig (Dominic Fumusa), and Boon (David Denman) wait in a bureaucratic hell. One says in frustration and disbelief, “If the consulate had ordered a fucking pizza it would have been there by now.”

From the roof, these warriors watch helplessly as the flames consuming the consulate burn higher. Now that it looks like a suicide mission instead of a rescue mission, they ignore the stand down order and do their duty.

While there is no questions those 20 precious minutes cost the lives of a fine ambassador and Information Management Officer Sean Smith, the six man team is still able to rescue a handful of American personnel and, after a brutal firefight, make it back to the CIA compound.

Unfortunately, their problems have only just begun. Armed militants, who are part of the al Qaeda-affiliated Ansar al-Sharia, gather in the dark, creep, attack in waves, retreat, and then prepare to start all over having learned more about the annex’s defenses.

There is no question, though, that the arch-villain of “13 Hours” is the White House and Clinton’s State Department. Bay never names names, never launches a diatribe, but his fury at the American government for abandoning these men, along with the 30 or so others stationed at the annex, is both palpable and contagious. (An offhand comment about one of the attacking terrorists being a former Gitmo detainee is especially timely.)

Overhead, throughout this terrible night, a military drone witnesses everything, and our government does nothing. Repeatedly, desperate calls are made begging for air support — if nothing else, a simple flyover to scare the militants. Just a few hundred miles away, F-14s sit idle on an aircraft carrier. F-16s on the tarmac ...

Even the next morning, after it is all over, even after two more brave men are dead and all the CIA staffers have been placed safely aboard a departing plane, the American government doesn’t come. Our heroes have to rely on a foreign government to get them home.

The pacing is breathless, the acting superb, and no one’s humanity is forgotten in the process. Ambassador Stevens is portrayed as a heroic idealist, and you cannot help but mourn his loss. Even the CIA chief is not portrayed as a one-dimensional villain. He may be a bureaucrat but he is a competent one.

In the middle of it all, during a rare break in the danger, the incredulous men learn that our corrupt media has already assumed their favorite position as a Tool of the State; that the media is already dutifully reporting the White House lies about protests and YouTube videos; already working hand-in-hand with the Obama campaign to cover-up the truth to re-elect a failed president.

To protect their role in that cover-up, and to drag Hillary Clinton over her own finish line, that cover-up continues to this day. The real injustice, though, has nothing to do with politics. What happened over those 13 hours was a modern-day Alamo, and because our DC Media is nothing more than a pile of boot-licking liars and propagandists, these six heroes have had to wait three years to receive their due.

In case I didn’t mention it, “13 Hours” is nothing close to political.

Michael Bay simply told the truth.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2016/01/14/13-hours-review-riveting-indictment-of-obama-hillary-and-the-dc-media/

Dusty
01-17-2016, 06:04
I want the truth about Benghazi to come out and be twice as bad for Obama and Clinton as Watergate was for Nixon if they're as guilty as they appear to be.

Sticks in my craw worse than just about anything that these people are getting away with it (so far).

Badger52
01-17-2016, 09:07
Sdiver, thanks for that.
Grrrrrr.

pyreaux
01-17-2016, 09:09
Sdiver, thanks for that!

cbtengr
01-17-2016, 09:46
I want the truth about Benghazi to come out and be twice as bad for Obama and Clinton as Watergate was for Nixon if they're as guilty as they appear to be.

Sticks in my craw worse than just about anything that these people are getting away with it (so far).

What you said Dusty times TEN!

SF_BHT
01-17-2016, 10:48
I saw it after work Friday. It was a good movie. The review is spot on. I was glad it did not get mired down on the political bull and focused on the actions on the ground.

It is a must see.

echoes
01-17-2016, 12:24
Good movie. Along with the F-16s sitting it showed 10th group loaded up ready to go and never given the OK.

Have not seen the movie yet, but saw a lot of previews....

Hope mad-amm-ass Secretary clinton BURNS HOT for her role, and glad this is finally coming to light!:mad:

BTW, 80 thousand folks saw the free pre-screen at of all places, AT&T Stadium in Arlington....(someone paid for that, and it was not cheap.)

Holly:munchin

Ret10Echo
01-17-2016, 13:46
Saw it... Recommended.

Added comments:

Saw this with my wife: Interesting exchange following the movie while in the car.

Things that hit for me that she did not notice:

Connection and camaraderie of the SOF/security team members

Everyone "knew the drill" reactions to events and contact

Odd behaviors that were "OK" (wearing shorts, etc)

The efficiency and effectiveness of a small team of professionals

Over inflated egos of State and alphabet organization staffs



R/10

PSM
01-18-2016, 15:03
From the Demoncrat Debate:

Sdiver
01-18-2016, 16:21
More reviews ... :munchin

Democrats: Special Forces Who Were On The Ground In Benghazi Are Liars

It takes a lot of nerve to say to somebody in the special forces, “You’re a liar.” Especially when you’re a Democrat politician and your allegiance is not to the truth so much as it is to seeing Hillary Clinton being elected President.

But that is basically what Democrats are saying about Kris Paronto, John Tiegen and others who were on the ground in Libya on September 11, 2012. The movie, ’13 Hours’ premiers this week and according to the men on the ground, a “stand down” order was given.

Paronto says he heard the exact words, “Stand down” when he and Tiegen were urging the base chief there to let them go and help the diplomats who were under attack.

Democrats insist however, it’s a lie:

“If the film portrays them as having ordered a stand-down, it’s clearly at odds with the facts,” said Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.), whose district includes Hollywood and who sits on the committee. “If the film portrays those who went to rescue people at the diplomatic facility as doing so in disregard of orders, that’s also plainly at odds with the facts. … It may make for good entertainment; it doesn’t make for a well-informed public.”

“I think all the evidence has been overwhelming that there was no stand-down order — everybody says that,” said Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-Md.), who serves as ranking member on the Benghazi committee and has read the book “13 hours” but doesn’t subscribe to the stand-down account. “[I]f they tried to allege that, it’s inconsistent with the evidence that’s shown, and people will view that as, perhaps … some exaggeration of certain points to make this [movie] more interesting.”

Paronto however, says despite all of the committee hearings, the findings are not valid because the guys on the ground were not interviewed:

“There are seven reports based off of what happened in Benghazi; I’ve been interviewed for one,” he said. “What kind of credibility is that? How can you get the information without interviewing the guys on the ground?”

That “one” was former House Intelligence Chairman Mike Rogers’ probe. But even his final report on the matter specifically said there was no stand-down order given. That report divided the GOP. And most of Rogers’ GOP panel members — including Benghazi panel member Pompeo — refused to sign the final document because they felt it did not tell the full story.

Now before anybody gets into thinking there was some diabolical plot with Hillary Clinton at the center of all of, don’t go there:

Paronto said he doesn’t necessarily believe the “stand down” he heard was nefarious or a command from on high from CIA leaders at headquarters. Rather, he said, the CIA supervisor or base chief was “very risk adverse” and probably did not know what to do.

The base chief, according to GOP sources, has consistently refuted this account, creating a he-said-she-said predicament that pits the lower-level contractors — all ex-SEALs, rangers or military officers — against people at the top.

The “people at the top” however, are all politicians. They’re the ones with the incentive to cover their asses and lie.

Not the ex-SEALs, Rangers or military officers.

https://socialismisnottheanswer.wordpress.com/2016/01/15/democrats-special-forces-who-were-on-the-ground-in-benghazi-are-liars/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+SocialismIsNotTheAnswer+%28So cialism+is+not+the+Answer%29

SouthernDZ
01-18-2016, 17:18
Saw today, painful experience but I'm glad I sat through it. One of the final scenes drove it all home when the survivors and the dead weren't even evacuated by an American aircraft.

A pity that both Obama and Hillary don't even have the decency to hang their heads in shame.

PSM
01-18-2016, 17:25
(Deleted per recommendation.)

Pat

Dusty
01-19-2016, 17:40
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/01/19/13-hours-co-author-told-stand-truth-shouldnt-political-football/

Wish the whole thing would blow sky high and be covered all day and night, everywhere.

I talked to a kid (about 15) who's very curious about this election and he had never heard of Benghazi but was worried because Trump owns a casino.

Average people don't realize what we're up against this year because of complacency, ignorance, the news media and educators. Normally I would add Hollywood to that list, but...

MR2
01-19-2016, 23:30
We got nobody backing us up here. Nothing.

xollie316
01-20-2016, 09:22
deleted.

Dusty
01-20-2016, 10:07
Great movie, I truly enjoyed it despite the fast that the debacle is the single most infuriating event in recent memory for me. The heat, constant risk, and uncertainness of the area was well portrayed in my opinion. I'm glad it wasn't political for the focus to remain on the Assaulters but I'd wager a lot of non-informed Americans won't make the connection of Clinton's State Department and Obama's White House being responsible for lack of response.

...which would be a shame.

DIYPatriot
01-20-2016, 12:52
...I'd wager a lot of non-informed Americans won't make the connection of Clinton's State Department and Obama's White House being responsible for lack of response.

What else can we expect when 10% of recent college graduates think Judge Judy serves on the Supreme Court (http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/01/19/supreme-court-justice-judge-judy.html)?

SouthernDZ
01-21-2016, 08:00
http://fullmeasure.news/news/politics/rescue-interrupted

This was briefly depicted in the movie, assets in Split, Croatia. The saddest part of this is the fact that no one in the Obama admin (especially Hillary) will ever own up to this tragedy.

Badger52
01-21-2016, 14:54
this one from May 2008 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yr7odFUARg) should get resurrected... by the GOP. How'd that work out?
:rolleyes:

MtnGoat
01-21-2016, 22:48
Saw it... Recommended.

Added comments:

Saw this with my wife: Interesting exchange following the movie while in the car.

Things that hit for me that she did not notice:

Connection and camaraderie of the SOF/security team members

Everyone "knew the drill" reactions to events and contact

Odd behaviors that were "OK" (wearing shorts, etc)

R/10

2013 JAB got hit by a SVBIED and TB Fighters. The SF ODA and SF ODB there ran over to help out at midnightish time frame. Some of the team guys were in shorts, sweat pants, and other Civilian clothing. The AOB had a Combat camera man there awaiting to fly out to visit their ODAs at VSP sites. He took photos of the event. AOB and ODA did story boards. When the BN CSM and BC saw the guys in shorts and workout pants they lost the minds. AOB SGM and CSM were old Team buddies. SGM said, come on CSM it was midnight and guys throw on kit and ran to the fight dressed as they were sleeping, what more would you want to happen. Some of the guys in running shorts weren't team guys, some were the other security team members types.