Washington State Dem Introduces Bill to Ban Possession of ‘Assault Weapons’

[Sdiver]

Nope, they (The Dems/Libs) don't want to confiscate our weapons at all ... :rolleyes:

Washington State Dem Introduces Bill to Ban Possession of ‘Assault Weapons’

On January 11, Washington state representative Jim Moeller (D-49th) introduced legislation to ban the possession of “assault weapons” in the state.

Moeller’s definition of an “assault weapon” also includes any semiautomatic pistol “that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine.”

In addition to pistols that accept detachable magazines, HB 2354 defines a “assault weapon” as:

A semiautomatic rifle that has the capacity to accept a 27 detachable magazine and has one or more of the following: A pistol grip or thumbhole stock; Any feature capable of functioning as a protruding grip that 30 can be held by the nontrigger hand; A folding or telescoping stock; A shroud attached to the barrel, or that partially or completely encircles the barrel, allowing the bearer to hold the firearm with the nontrigger hand without being burned, but excluding a slide that encloses the barrel; A semiautomatic pistol, or a semiautomatic, centerfire, or rimfire rifle with a fixed magazine, that has the capacity to accept more than ten rounds of ammunition.

And it also includes semiautomatic pistols that accept detachable magazines.

The bill also covers “semiautomatic shotguns” with any of the following features:

A pistol grip or thumbhole stock; Any feature capable of functioning as a protruding grip that can be held by the nontrigger hand; A folding or telescoping stock; A fixed magazine capacity in excess of five rounds; or an ability to accept a detachable magazine; A… revolving cylinder; or a conversion kit, part, or combination of parts, from which an assault weapon can be assembled if those parts are in the possession or under the control of the same person.

Moeller’s “assault weapons” ban was introduced on the same day that Democrat state representatives in Georgia introduced an “assault weapons” confiscation bill in their state. Taken together, both bills came less than a week after President Obama went around Congress for unilateral action on gun control.

Obama’s action expanded background checks, put new requirements on federally licensed firearms dealers, funded “smart gun” research, and co-opted bans on gun possession for some Social Security beneficiaries.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/01/15/washington-state-dem-introduces-bill-banning-possession-of-assault-weapons/

[tonyz]

Something must be going around...

"We don't want your guns...just some common sense gun control."

Riiiiggghhhhtttttt...

Georgia lawmaker introduces bill banning 'assault weapons'
wsbtv
WSB-TV2
Atlanta
Updated: 5:47 p.m. Thursday, Jan. 14, 2016 | Posted: 4:10 p.m. Thursday, Jan. 14, 2016

A bill banning certain guns described as assault weapons by the bill's author is sparking controversy in Georgia.

The new bill was introduced by State Representative Mary Oliver, from Decatur, and it has the support of 15 Democrats who signed the bill.

Not only does this ban the sale of certain guns, but people who own the guns banned by this bill would have to turn them over to the Georgia Bureau of Investigations.

According to the bill, anyone caught with one of the banned guns could be charged with a felony.

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http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/georgia-lawmaker-introduces-bill-banning-assault-r/np5PZ/

[(1VB)compforce]

Something must be going around...

"We don't want your guns...just some common sense gun control."

Riiiiggghhhhtttttt...

Georgia lawmaker introduces bill banning 'assault weapons'
wsbtv
WSB-TV2
Atlanta
Updated: 5:47 p.m. Thursday, Jan. 14, 2016 | Posted: 4:10 p.m. Thursday, Jan. 14, 2016

A bill banning certain guns described as assault weapons by the bill's author is sparking controversy in Georgia.

The new bill was introduced by State Representative Mary Oliver, from Decatur, and it has the support of 15 Democrats who signed the bill.

Not only does this ban the sale of certain guns, but people who own the guns banned by this bill would have to turn them over to the Georgia Bureau of Investigations.

According to the bill, anyone caught with one of the banned guns could be charged with a felony.

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http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/georgia-lawmaker-introduces-bill-banning-assault-r/np5PZ/



Come get them... The local police that I know have all said they will not so you'll have to do it yourselves.

[tonyz]

Come get them... The local police that I know have all said they will not so you'll have to do it yourselves.

Most of the smoke and mirrors have been set aside..the libs are right out in the open...there is no doubt they want all weapons banned and confiscated.

If they could muzzle you and trample the 1A they'd do that too.

They have no respect for the Consitution.

[frostfire]

Something must be going around...

"We don't want your guns...just some common sense gun control."

Riiiiggghhhhtttttt...

Georgia lawmaker introduces bill banning 'assault weapons'
wsbtv
WSB-TV2
Atlanta
Updated: 5:47 p.m. Thursday, Jan. 14, 2016 | Posted: 4:10 p.m. Thursday, Jan. 14, 2016

A bill banning certain guns described as assault weapons by the bill's author is sparking controversy in Georgia.

The new bill was introduced by State Representative Mary Oliver, from Decatur, and it has the support of 15 Democrats who signed the bill.

Not only does this ban the sale of certain guns, but people who own the guns banned by this bill would have to turn them over to the Georgia Bureau of Investigations.

According to the bill, anyone caught with one of the banned guns could be charged with a felony.

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http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/georgia-lawmaker-introduces-bill-banning-assault-r/np5PZ/

what about the ones privately owned by GBI employees, state police, etc?

[tonyz]

what about the ones privately owned by GBI employees, state police, etc?

Didn't read the proposed bill - I try to limit my exposure to garbage.

But, I suspect some animals are more equal than others.

ETA: hold your nose and maybe look at proposed bill at link below - hell - let's make it easy...fortunately - for now - this won't see the light of day BUT their intentions are clear.

http://www.legis.ga.gov/Legislation/20152016/154275.pdf

This part shall not apply to:
222 (1) Any duly authorized police agency of this state or a peace officer of any duly
223 authorized police agency of this state or of any political subdivision thereof, a law
224 enforcement officer of any department or agency of the United States who is regularly
225 employed and paid by the United States, this state, or any political subdivision thereof,
226 or an employee of the Department of Corrections of this state who is authorized in
227 writing by the commissioner of corrections to transfer or possess firearms while in the
228 official performance of his or her duties;
229 (2) A member of the National Guard or of the armed forces of the United States to wit:
230 the army, navy, marine corps, air force, or coast guard who, while serving therein,
231 possesses assault weapons, large capacity magazines, armor-piercing bullets, or
232 incendiary .50 caliber bullets in the line of duty;
233 (3) The possession of an assault weapon, large capacity magazine, armor-piercing bullet,
234 or incendiary .50 caliber bullet by a person who is authorized to possess the same because
235 he or she is in compliance with the dictates of the National Firearms Act, 68A Stat. 725
236 (26 U.S.C. Sections 5841-5862);

[Sohei]

These clowns aren't even deserving to be addressed as "human beings." I like the way they make the weapon fit into their narratives. After all...that pistol grip makes it way more deadly than a weapon without one.

They are living proof that Zombies do exist...functioning beings without a functional brain.

[Sdiver]

..... aaaAAAAaaaand not to be out done ... let's hear from the great state of California.

:rolleyes:

California: Two Anti-Gun Bills that will have a Serious Affect on Semi-Automatic Firearms have been Introduced


On Thursday, January 14, California’s NRA-PVF “F”-rated Attorney General, Kamala Harris, announced her support of freshman Assemblymember David Chiu’s introduction of Assembly Bill 1663 in a press release. AB 1663 would expand the classification of “assault weapons” to include all detachable magazine semi-automatic rifles and any rifle that uses a “bullet button.1” Gun owners who possess these firearms would be required to register them as “assault weapons” or face potential felony penalties, arrest, and confiscation of the firearm. AB 1663 will also ban the future sale of these firearms.

On the same day, NRA-PVF “F”-rated Assemblymembers Marc Levine and Phil Ting introduced a second anti-gun bill, Assembly Bill 1664. AB 1664 would ban the use of a “bullet button.”

The use of a “bullet button” currently keeps semi-automatics with detachable magazines from being classified as an “assault weapon.” In banning the use of a “bullet button” the possessor will now have possession of what California law considers an “assault weapon.” With this being said, the possessor will have to register that firearm as an “assault weapon” or face potential felony penalties, arrest, and confiscation of the firearm. AB 1664 will also ban the future sale of these firearms.

The explanation of registration in both bills means paying a registration fee and completing a registration form that contains:

-- A description of the firearm and unique identifiers;
-- The date the firearm was acquired
-- The name and address of the individual from whom, or business from which the firearm was acquired;
-- Registrant’s full name, address, telephone number, date of birth, height, weight, eye color, hair color, and;
-- California driver’s license number or California identification card number.

These bills are detrimental to the Golden State’s law-abiding gun owners, which number in the hundreds of thousands. They would turn legally-owned semi-automatic firearms into what California law defines as an “assault weapon.” These same firearms are used in hunting, competitive shooting and for general legal use throughout the United States.

Assemblymembers David Chiu, Marc Levine, and Phil Ting must hear from all of California’s Second Amendment supporters opposing these erroneous bills. It is IMPERATIVE for you to forward this CRITICAL alert to your family, friends, fellow sportsmen, gun owners, and Second Amendment supports.


A bullet button is a device used to permanently fix a magazine in a semiautomatic rifle that was originally built to accept a detachable magazine in order to comply with California’s current gun laws. A “bullet button” replaces the magazine release with a block and the user needs to remove the magazine by using a tool. The name came about due to a 1999 California State law which said that a "bullet or ammunition cartridge is considered a tool."

https://www.nraila.org/articles/20160115/california-two-anti-gun-bills-that-will-have-a-serious-affect-on-semi-automatic-firearms-have-been-introduced

[=one=]

That's basically what that idiot senator Yee was pushing before he and his buddy "Shrimp Boy" went up for gun running. These fuckers all need to be in prison. No big deal though. I designed a workaround for Yee's bill before it got shut down. Guess I'll have to dig it out of the junk box...

[Badger52]

No.

[Oldrotorhead]

This part of the Bill is just included to buy LE support. IMO it will work . It has worked in the past the federal level and in states like NJ, NY and MA.

http://www.legis.ga.gov/Legislation/20152016/154275.pdf

This part shall not apply to:
222 (1) Any duly authorized police agency of this state or a peace officer of any duly
223 authorized police agency of this state or of any political subdivision thereof, a law
224 enforcement officer of any department or agency of the United States who is regularly
225 employed and paid by the United States, this state, or any political subdivision thereof,
226 or an employee of the Department of Corrections of this state who is authorized in
227 writing by the commissioner of corrections to transfer or possess firearms while in the
228 official performance of his or her duties;
229 (2) A member of the National Guard or of the armed forces of the United States to wit:
230 the army, navy, marine corps, air force, or coast guard who, while serving therein,
231 possesses assault weapons, large capacity magazines, armor-piercing bullets, or
232 incendiary .50 caliber bullets in the line of duty;
233 (3) The possession of an assault weapon, large capacity magazine, armor-piercing bullet,
234 or incendiary .50 caliber bullet by a person who is authorized to possess the same because
235 he or she is in compliance with the dictates of the National Firearms Act, 68A Stat. 725
236 (26 U.S.C. Sections 5841-5862);

[(1VB)compforce]

This part of the Bill is just included to buy LE support. IMO it will work . It has worked i the past the federal level and in states like NJ, NY and MA.


Georgia is not the Northeast or Far Left Coast...

On that note, it stands very little chance of actually passing either chamber of the Georgia Assembly and exactly zero chance of being signed by Governor Deal. This is the same chamber (same people) that two years ago passed and signed the "Carry Everywhere" bill into law. Republicans across the board at the State Level.

As far as LEO/GBI enforcement, maybe Atlanta (the actual City, not the Metro area), but everywhere else is a big No. I only say maybe Atlanta because Mayor Kasim Reed is a solid Democrat/Lib. But he also has gotten quite a bit done by partnering with Gov. Deal and focusing on the non-partisan issues that they can agree on. He's a realist.

[Badger52]

The despot's third chorus: "rules for thee but not for me."

[Oldrotorhead]

Georgia is not the Northeast or Far Left Coast...

On that note, it stands very little chance of actually passing either chamber of the Georgia Assembly and exactly zero chance of being signed by Governor Deal. This is the same chamber (same people) that two years ago passed and signed the "Carry Everywhere" bill into law. Republicans across the board at the State Level.

As far as LEO/GBI enforcement, maybe Atlanta (the actual City, not the Metro area), but everywhere else is a big No. I only say maybe Atlanta because Mayor Kasim Reed is a solid Democrat/Lib. But he also has gotten quite a bit done by partnering with Gov. Deal and focusing on the non-partisan issues that they can agree on. He's a realist.

I agree it will not work now and has no chance of becoming law now. As to Gov. Deal he has been very open to compromise and IMO often gives more than he gets. He was my Congressman when I lived i GA and I did vote for him but I was not impressed with his performance in Washington. YMMV

[SittingElf]

Just another of the many reasons added to the list of why we moved our permanent home to Florida...the state with the highest per-capita CCW licenses in the country.

My wife is currently stationed in Georgia and while both concealed and open carry is still the norm there, I expect that things are likely to go downhill in the state before long. I wonder how long I'll still have CCW reciprocity with Georgia if this piece of crap moves forward.

I am fortunate to live in a county in Florida where our Sheriff recently made national news by literally begging the citizens of the County to arm themselves. BRAVO ZULU!!

Cheers...and remember to Duck and Cover!

[tonyz]

IMO an "assault weapon" ban (which is an inaccurate description of the weapons they want to ban)...epitomizes those much discussed "New York values..."

Most of the rest of the country is decidedly NOT Manhattan.

Upstate NY is not even Manhattan.

There are enough instances of these Statists revealing their true unconstitutional confiscatory agenda - the rest - are just too stealthy to reveal their true intentions.

[ddoering]

Just mark the names of those whom try to take away the rights of Americans. One day that list may come in handy.

[Mycroft]

I think we need a state constitutional amendment that limits the police operating in the state of WA to the same equipment civilians in WA are allowed to own.

Banning scary knives? Great, first responders can't have them either.
No high-cap mags? Ditto.
Eventually we'll either have a police force running around with Mosin-Nagant rifles or common sense will prevail.

[Guymullins]

I think we need a state constitutional amendment that limits the police operating in the state of WA to the same equipment civilians in WA are allowed to own.

Banning scary knives? Great, first responders can't have them either.
No high-cap mags? Ditto.
Eventually we'll either have a police force running around with Mosin-Nagant rifles or common sense will prevail.

Have the experts banned Lee Harvey Enfields now too?

[frostfire]

Eventually we'll either have a police force running around with Mosin-Nagant rifles or common sense will prevail.

Well, even UK has started to see the merit of more firearms
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/12098955/Hundreds-of-extra-armed-terrorism-officers-to-be-recruited.html

... or even adopting tactics that US LEO has learned since Columbine in the 90;s
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/12027965/Armed-police-to-ignore-injured-in-new-tactic-to-storm-marauding-terrorists.html

[Badger52]

Eventually we'll either have a police force running around with Mosin-Nagant rifles or common sense will prevail.Never happen. There are people in office who believe - overtly through their anti- antics or secretly but will never articulate it - that having a monopoly on the use of force is a good thing.

Guy, that was funny right there.
As illiterate as the statists are, betcha dollar to a doughnut that you could push that on the internet long enough and it would wind up on some grabber's list of specific prohibited items, like "sliding shoulder thingy" or "armor-piercing bayonet." I can see it now...

"The Lee Harvey Enfield; you know, the gun that killed JFK!!!" :eek:
and it winds up on a piece of legislation.