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http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/26/its-time-to-rally-around-donald-trump/
Brent Bozell has called on conservatives to rally around Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX)
for the Republican presidential nomination. Ted Cruz is a good man and a fine candidate — my own second choice — but I believe GOP frontrunner Donald Trump is the candidate for American patriots to rally around.
Bozell states that Cruz is the one candidate who will return the United States to “her Constitutional foundations and Judeo-Christian values,” explaining:
On every issue of crucial importance to conservatives—defunding Planned Parenthood, ending the Obamacare nightmare, reducing the size of government, opposing amnesty—Cruz is not only with conservatives, he’s led the fight for conservatives.
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I may disagree with Trump on some issues but he would be a much better POTUS than anything coming from the Dems. Make America great again!
He's the exact opposite of the jackanapes who've held that slot for decades.
Put him in and let the chips fly, says me.
Nothin' to lose...
After the treason of Boner, McConnell and Ryan, and a absolutely lame line up of Presidential hopefuls of which most are career politicians......the RNC is on suicide watch.
Bozell makes Cruz out to be the Conservative Messiah who with one wave of his hand will cure all the evils that curse this land. I like Cruz, but at this point in time I don't believe he has the stength in numbers that will be required to battle HRC.
Right now the peoples choice is overwhelmingly Trump.
Right now the peoples choice is overwhelmingly Trump.
As was Schwarzenegger to Californians. How'd that work out?
Pat
As was Schwarzenegger to Californians. How'd that work out?
Pat
You forgot Obama.
Arnold was body buider and movie star, Obama was a grifter, both received lots of attention from the media and both were backed by big money. Trump is an attention media whore just as Arnold and Obama, but at least Trump has a successful business background and he can self fund his campaign.
You already know what you what you will get with President HRC, so your choice is between maintaining the established norms...lying...death...adultry...treason...sediti on which will end in disaster or taking a step into the unknown with the chance there is light at the end of the tunnel.
Like it or not at present you have only two real choices, Trump or HRC......potential Life vs sure Death.
CAARNG 68W
12-27-2015, 12:50
As was Schwarzenegger to Californians. How'd that work out?
Pat
Terribly to say the least.
You forgot Obama.
Arnold was body buider and movie star, Obama was a grifter, both received lots of attention from the media and both were backed by big money. Trump is an attention media whore just as Arnold and Obama, but at least Trump has a successful business background and he can self fund his campaign.
You already know what you what you will get with President HRC, so your choice is between maintaining the established norms...lying...death...adultry...treason...sediti on which will end in disaster or taking a step into the unknown with the chance there is light at the end of the tunnel.
Like it or not at present you have only two real choices, Trump or HRC......potential Life vs sure Death.
Cruz is a complete turn off for potential and current Republicans like me - members of the Libertarian Party and independents who find much common ground with the GOP. Conservatives who bring the Bible into the ballot box and want a politician who does the same, reject the realpolitik I, and many fiscal conservatives who have been brought into the GOP fold due to guns, taxes, personal liberties, a detesting of political correctness and social change implemented by the left.
Cruz is a shot in the foot to the future of the RNC. His attitudes may fly in Congress or the Senate, but he sure as hell doesn't retract republicans (small R) like myself or many of my generation, who do no view abortion or the gays as a sign of the Rapture.
As for the Glorious People's Republic of California, Schwarzenegger did not set out to destroy it, and like Trump was so wealthy that he could not be bought off and intimidated, however California's incredibly powerful and well organized public employee unions and trade groups simply banded together and made Schwarzenegger's governship a complete exercise in molasses. Combined with Arnold's move to make it mandatory 6 months of permit in order to get a driver's license when I was 15-16 and then the bastard family that revealed itself after he left office left a real sour taste in my mouth regarding the future of California.
who do no view abortion or the gays as a sign of the Rapture.
You do understand that both of those topics are distractions from real issues of importance and national security?
Another caveat to those two topics, is that is current if the birth rate model continues its trend, you and your friends could be living under Sharia Law. No more Christians, no more queers...everyone should be happy in 50-70 years.
Cruz, Trump, whomever. Git the libdemons outta town.
In my opinion, Trump is subpar and less than ideal to be polite.
But the idea of HRC in the driver's seat for the next 4-8 years when the Supreme Court will require a number of seats to be filled is the stuff of truly horrible nightmares.
I still don't think most people understand the long term and permanent ramifications of the next 1-2 terms.
For all of Trump's flaws(and poor reflections of his target audience), I'm thinking he may clearly be the least bad option.
Shame about Dr Ben Carson not being more a bit more media whore-ish charismatic and a little less strange.
In my opinion, Trump is subpar and less than ideal to be polite.
But the idea of HRC in the driver's seat for the next 4-8 years when the Supreme Court will require a number of seats to be filled is the stuff of truly horrible nightmares.
I still don't think most people understand the long term and permanent ramifications of the next 1-2 terms.
For all of Trump's flaws(and poor reflections of his target audience), I'm thinking he may clearly be the least bad option.
Shame about Dr Ben Carson not being more a bit more media whore-ish charismatic and a little less strange.
You and I jive on these points, Flagg.
I seriously miss President Ronald the Magnificent.
Cruz, Trump, whomever. Git the libdemons outta town.
Very well said Sir!:lifter
IMHO, Trump is above par value on all of his stated issues, and would be a great POTUS! Have thought very highly of Cruz as well.:o
(...and my political views mean Zippo, zero, but wanted to contribute to this particular discussion.) :)
Holly
CAARNG 68W
12-27-2015, 16:07
You do understand that both of those topics are distractions from real issues of importance and national security?
Another caveat to those two topics, is that is current if the birth rate model continues its trend, you and your friends could be living under Sharia Law. No more Christians, no more queers...everyone should be happy in 50-70 years.
Absolutely, and to be honest, I think they're social quagmires that are best free of government regulation.
As for Sharia Law, I just hope Trump's immigration policy that gets the liberals all rallied up comes to fruition. :boohoo:D
Conservatives who bring the Bible into the ballot box and want a politician who does the same,...
Get rid of God and you lose your God-given rights.
Pat
Get rid of God and you lose your God-given rights.
Pat
Amen.
I'm sick and tired of hearing libs try to secularize the basis for the founding of the Country, trying to have it both ways.
Here's how I feel about it.
Special Forces Prayer
__________________
Almighty GOD, Who art the Author of liberty
and the Champion of the oppressed, hear our prayer.
We, the men of Special Forces, acknowledge
our dependence upon Thee in the preservation of human freedom.
Go with us as we seek to defend the defenseless and to free the enslaved.
May we ever remember that our nation, whose motto
is “In God We Trust”, expects that we shall acquit
ourselves with honor, that we may never bring shame
upon our faith, our families, or our fellow men.
Grant us wisdom from Thy mind, courage from Thine
heart, strength from Thine arm, and protection by Thine hand.
It is for Thee that we do battle, and to Thee belongs the victor’s crown.
For Thine is the kingdom, and the power and the glory, forever. AMEN
myself or many of my generation, who do no view abortion or the gays as a sign of the Rapture.
With all due respect, it is not abortion or gays that are the sign of the Rapture (if you even believe in that), but rather people who believe like you.
This is one of the last times I'm gonna say this this year:
Libs are idiots who suck.
bushmaster11
12-27-2015, 19:03
I hate to be a fly in the ointment, sand in the gears, water in the gas, but here goes IMHO.
I truly don't like ANY of those in the run up. None have the vision to meet the intent of the signers plan.
Only one, IMHO, is unfit...UNFIT...is Donald Trump. Here is my rationale. I am not a sophisticated political analyst but am just looking at historical similar speeches/ideology.
Let me start with what is a given: Trump is not evil. Trump has no delusions of grandeur with the intent to rule the world, much less the dictatorship of our country. Having had 4 draft deferences, his military credentials are a little on the short side.
Having said that, I have to look at what is stated and unstated. If wrong, shit you can shoot me but can't eat me. Trump's speeches/tirades are all about the FEARS of the public. He tells everyone what the public wants to hear. He has yet to provide the first fact base solution to any of his problem list.
Compare the tone and in some cases, content with those of a European despot starting in or around 1931. Those speeches are almost a carbon copy. "Too many minorities"; "Too much unemployment"; "Need for not meeting foreign obligations"; etc.
There are no solutions offered, just a "Trust me, I am in charge of the federal government, and here to help". How many of you would take the word of an unknown LLDB or ARVN CPT or MAJ saying "I'll have your arty support and reaction force if you get in trouble". I know there are good and reliable partners. But I personally would have major heartburn.
I just think there should be more steak than gravy. I want my president to work for everyone. I want whoever it is to give me warm and fuzzy answers that have some semblance of reality. For my vote, I need to hear from him those answers. I am not much for trust from politicians.
J R sends his 2 cents
De Oppresso Liber
CAARNG 68W
12-27-2015, 22:01
Get rid of God and you lose your God-given rights.
Pat
Agreeably so, however there is a growing secularism, not only in the rest of the world, but most alarmingly, in our United States. Our Founding Father's certainly were religious men, and their Christianity has been made more hidden and less importatant subtly slowly and slowly in the years, particularly since the decline in American Christianity. However, fundamentalists they were not and only a few were true Deists (as in believing in "just God")
A growing number of the American populace is becoming more and more secular. The voting populace (i.e. the elderly) however hasn't changed much. Whether or not the peers of my generation (you know.....Millennials) keeps this secularism is an answer only time will tell. However the rabidly Evangelical Christian wing of the Republican Party, often referring to themselves as "Conservative", does nothing to bring in youthful voters who are turned away by the shift in American attitudes that the Democrats espouse, but are even more turned away by the religious overtones of Conservative Republicans.
With all due respect, it is not abortion or gays that are the sign of the Rapture (if you even believe in that), but rather people who believe like you.
M'eh, I'm Roman-Catholic ("ROMAN-CATH" on my dog tags), I haven't read outside of Matthew, Mark, Luke & John since before my Confirmation.
You and I jive on these points, Flagg.
I seriously miss President Ronald the Magnificent.
Has ANYONE with a major audience and a centrist perspective been openly discussing the fact that half the Supreme Court is awaiting a visit from the Grim Reaper any day now?
The ability of the next President to either protect the middle or conversely, fundamentally and irreparably transform the Judicial branch is the stuff of Manchurian Candidate nightmares.
Congress, the Executive Branch and senior civil service appointees are almost openly owned by special interests with the elite literally above the law, just look at John Corzine's blatant immunity for evidence.
The Supreme Court Judicial Branch is THe vital ground, in my opinion, in this upcoming election.
If the Supreme Court is lost, so goes the last non-kinetic, non-reboot defense of the Republic.
25-50 years from now I reckon this next 1-2 terms will be viewed as a truly pivotal point in American history.
I hope it will not be an acceleration of the long slow downward spiral towards imperial decline and irrelevance like all others before it.
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It was interesting with President Reagan.
I was, and remain, a huge fan.
Even with time, space, and maturity to see him and his administration warts and all I still reckon the positive bucket far outweighs the hefty negative bucket.
He had a great one to many connection much like President Clinton's famous one to one connction(both with voters and his conquests).
And it harkened back to both a very real and artificially manufactured post WWII period that appeals to citizenry(like Happy Days in a way).
And it worked.
Today, we've got Trump leading not with Happy Days optimism, but Kardashian Social Media shock value momentum.
It's hard watching it from a distance, just like its hard for many who support Trump to actually admit it(according to some polls).
The ideal and reality of America is better than that.
But if you're in a knife fight for your very life, there's no point in wishing for a Randall #1 with a 7 inch blade when all you've got is a prison shiv.
Once the existential fight is won, there will be opportunity to order a custom blade or three and throw away the shiv.
Having said that, I have to look at what is stated and unstated. If wrong, shit you can shoot me but can't eat me. Trump's speeches/tirades are all about the FEARS of the public. He tells everyone what the public wants to hear. He has yet to provide the first fact base solution to any of his problem list.
I seem to recall that he actually does give solid solutions to his problem list. It's why he has gained popularity and why the dems hate him so much.
I mean seriously, look:
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions
He clearly outlines problems and solutions. There might be disagreements with those solutions, but he is the exact opposite of what you say here.
EDIT: I'm going to quote Trump's VA plan in part here, I don't think he'll mind:
The Trump Plan Gives Veterans The Freedom To Choose And Forces The VA To Compete For Their Dollars
Politicians in Washington have tried to fix the VA by holding hearings and blindly throwing money at the problem. None of it has worked. In fact, wait times were 50% higher this summer than they were a year ago. That’s because the VA lacks the right leadership and management. It’s time we stop trusting Washington politicians to fix the problems and empower our veterans to vote with their feet.
Under a Trump Administration, all veterans eligible for VA health care can bring their veteran’s ID card to any doctor or care facility that accepts Medicare to get the care they need immediately. Our veterans have earned the freedom to choose better or more convenient care from the doctor and facility of their choice. The power to choose will stop the wait time backlogs and force the VA to improve and compete if the department wants to keep receiving veterans’ healthcare dollars. The VA will become more responsive to veterans, develop more efficient systems, and improve the quality of care because it will have no other choice.
The Trump Plan Treats The Whole Veteran
We must care for the whole veteran, not just their physical health. We must recognize that today’s veterans have very different needs than those of the Greatest Generation.
The Trump Plan Will:
Increase funding for post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), traumatic brain injury and suicide prevention services to address our veterans’ invisible wounds. Service members are five times more likely to develop depression than civilians. They are almost fifteen times more likely to develop PTSD than civilians. This funding will help provide more and better counseling and care. More funding will also support research on best practices and state of the art treatments to keep our veterans alive, healthy and whole. With these steps, the Trump plan will help the veteran community put the unnecessary stigma surrounding mental health behind them and instead encourage acceptance and treatment in our greater society.
Increase funding for job training and placement services (including incentives for companies hiring veterans), educational support and business loans. All Americans agree that we must do everything we can to help put our service men and women on a path to success as they leave active duty by collaborating with the many successful non-profit organizations that are already helping. Service members have learned valuable skills in the military but many need help understanding how to apply those skills in civilian life. Others know how to apply those skills but need help connecting with good jobs to support their families. Still others have an entrepreneurial spirit and are ready to start creating jobs and growing the economy. The Trump plan will strengthen existing programs or replace them with more effective ones to address these needs and to get our veterans working.
Transform the VA to meet the needs of 21st century service members. Today’s veterans have very different needs than those of the generations that came before them. The VA must adapt to meet the needs of this generation of younger, more diverse veterans. The Trump plan will expand VA services for female veterans and ensure the VA is providing the right support for this new generation of veterans.
Better support our women veterans. The fact that many VA hospitals don’t permanently staff OBGYN doctors shows an utter lack of respect for the growing number female veterans. Under the Trump plan, every VA hospital in the country will be fully equipped with OBGYN and other women’s health services. In addition, women veterans can always choose a different OBGYN in their community using their veteran’s ID card.
This sounds like more of a plan than what any other candidate has been willing to deliver.
But if you're in a knife fight for your very life, there's no point in wishing for a Randall #1 with a 7 inch blade when all you've got is a prison shiv.
Once the existential fight is won, there will be opportunity to order a custom blade or three and throw away the shiv.
Because we have to conservatize the SCOTUS over the next 8-12 years.
Roguish Lawyer
12-28-2015, 09:30
If you support gun control and government-provided universal health care, Donald Trump is your man.
If you support gun control and government-provided universal health care, Donald Trump is your man.
So, we're being hornswaggled, Consigliere?
Little Early to "Rally Around" anybody right now.
The first state primary vote is still in the future.
I'll support my guy until somebody wins the primary - and then I'll support the R who wins.
Unless the GOPe pulls a slicky boy at the convention and boots who won the people's vote. Then it's third party (on the right side).
Roguish Lawyer
12-28-2015, 13:33
So, we're being hornswaggled, Consigliere?
I think this guy is a complete fraud. YMMV
If you support gun control
Then he's lying to us:
NATIONAL RIGHT TO CARRY. The right of self-defense doesn’t stop at the end of your driveway. That’s why I have a concealed carry permit and why tens of millions of Americans do too. That permit should be valid in all 50 states. A driver’s license works in every state, so it’s common sense that a concealed carry permit should work in every state. If we can do that for driving – which is a privilege, not a right – then surely we can do that for concealed carry, which is a right, not a privilege.
Link PROTECTING OUR SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS (https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/second-amendment-rights)
Pat
If you support gun control and government-provided universal health care, Donald Trump is your man.
Well we already got Obamacare, but it seems to me that Trump's CCW permit was made a point of in at least one debate, and his paper on his position is supporting gun control if by that you mean using both hands.
If he was the man you think he is, why wouldn't he just run on the D ticket?
I think this guy is a complete fraud. YMMV
Might I ask what data points led you to this conclusion?
bushmaster11
12-28-2015, 15:11
I am strong proponent of 2d amend. Having said that, I'll have to confess to owning a wide range of weapons. Effective ranges from 5 ft to 500 yds. Any candidate challenges that amend is a non-starter.
Having said that, I would point out that a very few weapons used or possessed by criminals were obtained by existing legal laws. Laws need to be enforced, not new law.
The success of the Affordable Care Act known as Obamacare seems to be a fully accepted universal healthcare. According to the Congressional Budget Office; Annals of Internal Medicine; Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services; and other impartial third party findings, quantitative and qualitative measurements show success in meeting the needs of the nation as a whole.
Lord knows Obama has screwed the pooch but Obamacare is not one. His willingness to go against his cabinet on the Osama Bin Laden operation should stand alone as to his willingness to go against the grain.
The whole pack of GOP are not qualified. Is there anyone to support in a negotiated convention? Can't we find a dark horse to back? I think Ronald Reagan should be in top 10, if not top 5. Surely thare has to be somebody with national and international credentials.
J R sends
De Oppresso Liber
Roguish Lawyer
12-28-2015, 16:14
http://truthinmedia.com/trump-obamacare-government-universal-healthcare/
http://dailycaller.com/2015/08/26/from-immigration-to-abortion-longtime-democrat-donald-trump-must-reckon-with-his-rich-progressive-history/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/07/09/ths-many-ways-in-which-donald-trump-was-once-a-liberals-liberal/
http://truthinmedia.com/trump-obamacare-government-universal-healthcare/
http://dailycaller.com/2015/08/26/from-immigration-to-abortion-longtime-democrat-donald-trump-must-reckon-with-his-rich-progressive-history/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/07/09/ths-many-ways-in-which-donald-trump-was-once-a-liberals-liberal/
So with Obamacare as a given now, Trump wants to replace that with a government sponsored healthcare system. Ok. The fact is we need some sort of healthcare solution to replace the system we have now. He has presented a solution. What do you see as the problem with the solution?
As for the other links, apparently he held different positions 10-15+ years ago.
That makes him human. Which candidate do you support that holds the same positions today that he has 15 years ago?
I say give him a shot at it. He could screw it up just as hard as he wanted to for 8 years and we'd still be in better shape than we are with a marxist quisling in the saddle.
Roguish Lawyer
12-29-2015, 09:34
So with Obamacare as a given now, Trump wants to replace that with a government sponsored healthcare system. Ok. The fact is we need some sort of healthcare solution to replace the system we have now. He has presented a solution. What do you see as the problem with the solution?
Socialist medicine provides vastly inferior care. Perhaps you can name anything the Government does better than the private sector.
As for the other links, apparently he held different positions 10-15+ years ago.
That makes him human. Which candidate do you support that holds the same positions today that he has 15 years ago?
Actually it makes him a whore who is deceiving you like the other politicians everyone claims to be tired of. I have known Ted Cruz personally for 25 years, and he is the same guy today he was when I met him.
Socialist medicine provides vastly inferior care. Perhaps you can name anything the Government does better than the private sector.
Actually it makes him a whore who is deceiving you like the other politicians everyone claims to be tired of. I have known Ted Cruz personally for 25 years, and he is the same guy today he was when I met him.
Can you ask him about this then?
https://www.yahoo.com/politics/ted-cruzs-dishonesty-on-immigration-182057600.html
Socialist medicine provides vastly inferior care. Perhaps you can name anything the Government does better than the private sector.
Actually it makes him a whore who is deceiving you like the other politicians everyone claims to be tired of. I have known Ted Cruz personally for 25 years, and he is the same guy today he was when I met him.
Cruz is fine with me; love the guy. Just wish he had a little more bass gravel in the voicebox.
But, I don't think he's gonna lay into BJ Clinton like The Don's fixing to...:lifter
miclo18d
12-29-2015, 15:16
I have known Ted Cruz personally for 25 years, and he is the same guy today he was when I met him.
Please call him and tell him to take off the gloves like he did going after the debate agitators! I love him but Trump has this in the bag if he can't shake a politicians political correctness.
I do have to say the press and the GOP has been going hard after Cruz. They seem more threatened by him than by Trump. I'll take either of the two but no one else and I would LOVE a Trump/Cruz ticket (but don't really see that happening).
And I'm sure he would like to know that there are a lot of Green Berets that have his back!
craigepo
12-29-2015, 15:22
Trump is beginning to remind me of a rich kid who never had his ass kicked. IMO, every human male needs to lose, at something, at least once in his life. Bar fight, boxing ring, wrestling mat, SFAS, you name it, a guy just needs to know that he can't use physical force to get through life. I haven't seen anything coming from Trump that would show he has been forced to eat "humble pie". The result is he comes across as an obnoxious ass who will never get enough independent votes to win a general, nationwide election.
I also think that he is a plant, and that as soon as he starts losing primaries, he will declare himself a 3rd party candidate with the intent of drawing votes away from the GOP like Perot did to Bush I. However, I don't yet have enough evidence to prove this supposition yet.
Cruz is fine with me; love the guy. Just wish he had a little more bass gravel in the voicebox.
But, I don't think he's gonna lay into BJ Clinton like The Don's fixing to...:lifter
Love him or not the beauty of Trump is his willingness to tangle with the Clintons and to call an ace an ace. Hillary will not get a pass with him and I hope he continues to play what some perceive to be the bully role.
Love him or not the beauty of Trump is his willingness to tangle with the Clintons and to call an ass an ass.
Fixed it! ;)
Pat
Love him or not the beauty of Trump is his willingness to tangle with the Clintons and to call an ace an ace. Hillary will not get a pass with him and I hope he continues to play what some perceive to be the bully role.
Concur 100%
Billary is a juicy target protected only by the slimebag lib press and handwringers.
Trump don't give a flyin' flip, and if he gets the coverage doing what the RINOS haven't had the cojones to do, the world can be a pizza pie.
Concur 100%
Billary is a juicy target protected only by the slimebag lib press and handwringers.
Trump don't give a flyin' flip, and if he gets the coverage doing what the RINOS haven't had the cojones to do, the world can be a pizza pie.
I'm sure the Clinton campaign will play the victim card as ruthlessly as they can.
And while I think the slice of society that utilises, condones, or just passively accepts the cult of victimhood is growing....I think the risk of "victimhood backlash" is also growing.
Whatever it takes to protect the Supreme Court.
4 Supreme Court Justices(2 Reagan appointees, 2 Clinton) aged 82, 79, 78, 77.
The Trump position flip/flips over time are concerning.
Same for the ruthlessness and questionable ethics he has displayed in his business history.
Not that I think Trump is an ideal candidate(far from it), but every day that passes without course correction is going to compel the need for increased ruthlessness.
Fixed it! ;)
Pat
I was being kind, I can not think of a single redeemable quality that those two asses possess.
I was being kind, I can not think of a single redeemable quality that those two asses possess.
Well there is....
Uh, oh don't forget uhh...
Yeah, you're right not one redeemable quality.
The Subaru drivers won in '08 and '12.
The pickup truck drivers want Trump for '16.
Much better outlook for stability with Cruz running point, but...it's time to go on the offensive with speed, surprise and violence of action on so many levels it's ridiculous, or our enemies will win-point blank.
We can lobby and vote for Cruz as the nominee, but everybody better vote for The Don if he gets the nominee or get themselves into a sustainable position with potable water, security and a food source.
(Might wanna do that, anyway, because Trump's a wild man.)
No, I don't have a bunker. I'm not an Armageddon Freak. I'm just advising that if the rudder doesn't get moved about 180 degrees, the ship is heading into a maelstrom that you better be battened down to weather.
Aargh.
I have known Ted Cruz personally for 25 years, and he is the same guy today he was when I met him.
Ask him what he will do to rescind this infernal socialist experiment of allowing women into combat arms, SOF, et al (since he doesn't answer his constituents emails anymore).
Team Sergeant
12-30-2015, 05:48
I have known Ted Cruz personally for 25 years, and he is the same guy today he was when I met him.
So do I want, another, lawyer for prez, endorsed by other lawyers, do I want a bottom feeding scumbag socialist, or do I want a proven businessman that has nothing to prove?
I'll take the businessman over the honed politician/lawyer everyday. ;)
Roguish Lawyer
12-30-2015, 09:32
Can you ask him about this then?
https://www.yahoo.com/politics/ted-cruzs-dishonesty-on-immigration-182057600.html
Calling the amendment he offered "dishonesty" is ridiculous.
Funny how the left and the establishment want to argue that Ted can't work with others, then when he offers a compromise on something, it supposedly shows he's a liar. That amendment was supported by the most hawkish anti-amnesty people in the Senate (e.g. Jeff Sessions), and it would have prevented guest workers from ever becoming citizens (and being able to vote, which is a big part of what this whole fight is about).
I disagree with Ted on immigration, and support a lot more legal immigration. That said, if this is the best you've got on him flip-flopping, you might want to dig in a lot deeper.
Roguish Lawyer
12-30-2015, 09:44
Ask him what he will do to rescind this infernal socialist experiment of allowing women into combat arms, SOF, et al (since he doesn't answer his constituents emails anymore).
I am fairly certain he will reverse all of it, although I don't know if he has said that expressly. He certainly has talked a lot about political correctness destroying our military.
WarriorDiplomat
12-30-2015, 13:46
So do I want, another, lawyer for prez, endorsed by other lawyers, do I want a bottom feeding scumbag socialist, or do I want a proven businessman that has nothing to prove?
I'll take the businessman over the honed politician/lawyer everyday. ;)
Amen brother
Roguish Lawyer
12-30-2015, 14:07
https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBCA0007 (https://secure.donaldjtrump.com/donate/)
:munchin
(Great link RL! Go ahead click it!)
I like Ted Cruz. A lot. Probably my pick (when I decide before the SC Primary).
I'm concerned that he was born in Calgary, Canada.
His Cuban father became a Naturalized citizen in 2005.
His mother was born where? What was there reason for being in Canada when Ted Cruz was born?
I like Ted Cruz. A lot. Probably my pick (when I decide before the SC Primary).
I'm concerned that he was born in Calgary, Canada.
His Cuban father became a Naturalized citizen in 2005.
His mother was born where? What was there reason for being in Canada when Ted Cruz was born?
On the question of eligibility:
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/headlines/20130818-born-in-canada-ted-cruz-became-a-citizen-of-that-country-as-well-as-u.s..ece
Cruz is eligible unless the Supreme Court says otherwise, which they will only deliberate on if he becomes the R candidate and someone with standing objects.
Trump is beginning to remind me of a rich kid who never had his ass kicked...The result is he comes across as an obnoxious ass who will never get enough independent votes to win a general, nationwide election.
I also think that he is a plant, and that as soon as he starts losing primaries, he will declare himself a 3rd party candidate with the intent of drawing votes away from the GOP like Perot did to Bush I. However, I don't yet have enough evidence to prove this supposition yet.
Regards independent votes... I'm not so sure he can't pull independents. I'd think that he will draw voters that may not have voted to pull the R lever. I think that there is an anti-establishment anti-dynasty sentiment that is gaining strength that will doom Jeb Bush and work against Hitlery. As a data point, I have a teenage son who for some reason is following Trump on twitter... he's not of voting age, but all his 17-18 yr old friends are also following Trump on twitter and they will be of voting age.
Right now I think he is running a smart, calculated campaign. Doing what he needs to do. NOT playing by what anyone thinks the "rules" are for R candidates.... not the Media, not the Dems, not the GOPs.
We shall see of course, but I don't think that Trump will make an independent run as long as the GOP establisment does not declare war on him first. They had better not... as Trump will be the best attack dog the GOP has ever had in recent memory...and has the power to wreck all GOP chances for victory in the general election.
Regardless one thing is for certain, he has already started in on the Clintons and is only just beginning. Which other R candidate has flat out called Hillarybeast the crimminal that she is? Or started to call out her husband?
It will be interesting to see how this primary season continues to develop.
RomanCandle
01-02-2016, 14:23
As an non US citizen and someone who does not live there but has an interest in the political outcomes, I have a burning question that I ask with respect:
How is it that any individual who has been funded through massive "donations" from corporate, fund managers or "interested parties" etc can be relied upon to do anything other than the will of his benefactors?
It seems that votes are cast but the candidates have been bought and paid for by parties that have their own interests at heart yet voters get worked up as if "their" candidate will have their interests at the forefront of their presidential tenure.
As an non US citizen and someone who does not live there but has an interest in the political outcomes, I have a burning question that I ask with respect:
How is it that any individual who has been funded through massive "donations" from corporate, fund managers or "interested parties" etc can be relied upon to do anything other than the will of his benefactors?
It seems that votes are cast but the candidates have been bought and paid for by parties that have their own interests at heart yet voters get worked up as if "their" candidate will have their interests at the forefront of their presidential tenure.
I think seems like Donald Trump is in the forum with us. Trump has said the very same thing and has claimed to have made political donations to do that very thing.
RomanCandle
01-02-2016, 16:42
Its just really weird to me that on virtually every discussion I come across there is so much back and forth but so little about the conflict of interest elephant in the room that determines everything that will happen after that person is elected and maybe still motivate that persons agenda in politics even if they are not elected.
Its just really weird to me that on virtually every discussion I come across there is so much back and forth but so little about the conflict of interest elephant in the room that determines everything that will happen after that person is elected and maybe still motivate that persons agenda in politics even if they are not elected.
I was thinking along these lines a day or so ago. If Trump becomes President, he would have to divest himself of all of his business dealings (probably already has just to run). Yet, a professional politician can still involve themselves in their business of politics, i.e., fundraising, endorsements, etc.. Plus, a politician with a money making agenda, like Global Warming (John Kerry), can keep on peddling their wares without anyone batting an eye.
Pat
CAARNG 68W
01-02-2016, 19:12
I'm sure the Clinton campaign will play the victim card as ruthlessly as they can.
And while I think the slice of society that utilises, condones, or just passively accepts the cult of victimhood is growing....I think the risk of "victimhood backlash" is also growing.
Whatever it takes to protect the Supreme Court.
4 Supreme Court Justices(2 Reagan appointees, 2 Clinton) aged 82, 79, 78, 77.
The Trump position flip/flips over time are concerning.
Same for the ruthlessness and questionable ethics he has displayed in his business history.
Not that I think Trump is an ideal candidate(far from it), but every day that passes without course correction is going to compel the need for increased ruthlessness.
This. The High Court is an often forgotten prize/casualty of what can affect an election.
Well, The Donald filled a 13,500 stadium last night with an estimate of well over 5,000 in the overflow area.
Don't see anyone else pulling those numbers from either side.
RomanCandle
01-03-2016, 05:44
Its probably just my perception and of course being so it is entirely irrelevant but all this sponsorship appears to be to at least some extent responsible for all the vacillating and inexplicable uncertainty that seems to plague administrations. These politicians to me seem like professional lip flappers and that's what they bring to the office.
Trump on the other hand seems to be a get things done kind of person and if he really does bring that to the office than it should get interesting in a good way. Hopefully he can look at things and see them as they really are and take appropriate actions and to hell with sponsors, donors, lobbyists and everyone else that taints and perverts the process.
He has no Military experience to speak of but he appears pro-military and surely that's better than some previous mil guy that's become a ticket punching political career advancer?
I was thinking along these lines a day or so ago. If Trump becomes President, he would have to divest himself of all of his business dealings (probably already has just to run).
Why? I'm not up on all the federal election laws, but why would this need to be done?
Why? I'm not up on all the federal election laws, but why would this need to be done?
Conflict of Interest whether real or perceived.
Pat
The Reaper
01-04-2016, 15:01
Blind trust.
TR
Peregrino
01-04-2016, 15:06
Blind trust.
TR
Blind trust? Is that what the ignorati felt as they elected the incumbent (twice!) or what the "powers that be" demand from all of us?
A decent WSJ article on Donald Trump's financial warfare tactics:
http://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-and-his-debts-a-narrow-escape-1451868915
I've read a fair bit about him from across the spectrum of support to detractor over the years.
The guy seems to be fuelled almost exclusively by hairspray, trophy wives, vanity, and ego.
If Trump spoke Dari/Pashtu and had a healthy head of hair I'd swear his story reads like an Afghan fixer turned ISAF services/construction contractor.
I'll say this for Trump, he can certainly juggle quite a few self-made shit sandwiches and sell them on the sizzle if not the taste and nutritional value.
Enemy psych teams would surely be both drooling and shitting themselves on how to crack that nut.
The guy would be a nightmare for both enemies and allies on negotiating for US short to medium term(Trump doesn't seem to have ever heard the term "win-win") advantage.
But I wonder if his ego/vanity is a significant point of vulnerability to enemies.
Personally, I wonder if his seeming inability(based on media and books) to acknowledge(and therefore learn) from his mistakes is a critical leadership flaw?
He always seems to paint his failures with arrogance and Twitter friendly Orwellian revisionist sound bites.
I remember when Ronald Reagan was portrayed both as a maverick as well as a wildcard as far as enemies of the US were concerned.
Trump is a maverick and wild card as well, but I guess I'm getting old and prefer more Cowboy than Boss.
Anywho......he certainly makes American politics interesting.
Surf n Turf
01-04-2016, 18:50
I was thinking along these lines a day or so ago. If Trump becomes President, he would have to divest himself of all of his business dealings (probably already has just to run). Yet, a professional politician can still involve themselves in their business of politics, i.e., fundraising, endorsements, etc.. Plus, a politician with a money making agenda, like Global Warming (John Kerry), can keep on peddling their wares without anyone batting an eye.
Pat
Pat,
Its worse than that
Members of Congress have their own "code of ethics" regarding investments. It is AMAZING
SnT
It's Absurd That There Is No Law Banning Congressional Insider Trading
Sometimes a story breaks that leads to jaw dropping even among the normally jaded. ............ a new book .....shed light on the degree to which members of Congress profited from trading stocks that were directly affected by pending government policy. The insider trading ran the gamut of Republicans and Democrats and in all cases involved knowledge of pending contracts or legislation that would benefit or penalize specific industries. The amounts gained ranged from a few thousand dollars to hundreds of thousands.
Yet insider-trading laws do not apply to what many members of Congress have done. Because their privileged information does not come from company insiders and because congressional representatives are not employees of any public company, their trades do not fall under the definition of illegal insider trading. In short, because they trade on material nonpublic information about spending that they acquire as elected representatives, rather than on material nonpublic information provided by companies, they have not broken the law.
The fact that congressional representatives have a better trading record than “average” investors has been known for some time. Various researchers have shown that over the past years, congressional representatives (and their staffs) outperform by anywhere from 6 percent to 25 percent annually.
as any investor will attest—that getting the fundamentals of a company right does not guarantee that the stock will trade accordingly. But big headline news such as agricultural spending, health-care budgets, highway bills, and assorted regulations does tend to move stocks in the days after the announcement, and having inside knowledge of what those announcements are, when they will be made public, and what companies will be affected provides a massive edge.
Yet no law bars Congress from making money from information that no else has, at least not until someone leaks it or an official announcement is made. Given how advantageous such insider information is and the fact that no law bars its use, it’s a wonder there aren’t more congressional trading millionaires.
http://www.businessinsider.com/its-absurd-that-there-is-no-law-banning-congressional-insider-trading-2011-11
Divemaster
01-04-2016, 20:28
Blind trust? Is that what the ignorati felt as they elected the incumbent (twice!) or what the "powers that be" demand from all of us?
A blind trust is where someone elected to high office places their financial affairs so as to avoid conflict of interest issues.