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The Donald is getting beat up because of his position on refugee deportations.
His reasoning is based on codified US law..
US Code/title 8/chapter 12/subchapter 2/section 1182(f)
PS: everyone conveniently forgot Jimmy Carter used this same law to deport and prevent Iranian's from getting in the USA, in 1979..
Don't let the facts get in the way of a political agenda
Trump hates muslims.
There is no such thing as radical islam.
Christians want to oppress americans.
Have it your way at Burger King.
I haven't made up my mind on Trump's "no muslim" outburst, yet; haven't really had time to study it.
Something doesn't ring right, though...
What I understood Trump to say was that the U.S. needs to put a hold on taking in anymore muslim immigrants until such time as we can be sure of just who we are letting in. Maybe I missed something but I did not hear him say whatever it is that all these folks are in an uproar about.
Don't let the facts get in the way of a political agenda
Trump hates muslims.
There is no such thing as radical islam.
Christians want to oppress americans.
Have it your way at Burger King.
Trump (and all of his supporters and every Republican) hate muslims.
Peregrino
12-09-2015, 13:02
Trump (and all of his supporters and every Republican) hate muslims.
It's not just muslims. I have problems with anyone who wants to convert, enslave, or kill me. Just because muslims happen to be 99.99% of those people doesn't mean I hold any special animus towards them.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/10/trump-hits-new-high-of-35-anti-establishment-surges-to-65/
Proving once again that our oh-so superior DC pundits are out-of-touch and blindingly bubble-dumb, a new CBS/New York Times national poll shows that all this talk about Donald Trump’s so-called ceiling is just more wishful thinking. If you thought the DC Media was furious before over their inability to destroy Trump, now that he has surged to 35%, the pundits’ impotent rage is about to go nuclear.
Last month, in this same poll, Trump sat at just 22%.
Trump isn’t just leading with 35%, he is crushing second and third place combined. Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) enjoys that second place standing with 16% support — which is a massive surge in this poll, quadrupling his showing in the last one. Ben Carson is in third with 13%. Establishment favorite Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) in single digits with just 9%. Jeb Bush remains the walking dead at 3%. Carly Fiorina is at just 1%.
When you add together the national support for Trump, Cruz, and Carson, what you see is that a full 65% of GOP primary voters are in full rebellion against the Republican Establishment.
As of right now, with 35% support, Trump has as much support as all of the Establishment candidates combined.
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I'm glad to see Trump continue his upward trend.
The media is terrified of him, the establishment is terrified of him.
The dems are terrified of him.
He must be doing something incredibly right!
I hate to see Fiorina doing so poorly. I would prefer her over Jeb Bush any day of the week. (...and twice on Sunday).
Like someone else on here said earlier (i think)... is there hyperbole or outright bullshit that Trump is saying? Sure. But on the main points there is a kernal of truth/common sense.
What I like is that he is not playing by the rules that everyone has defined for him. Rebublicans are supposed to be responsible, intellectual, moderate (so as to appeal to a wider range of (democrat) voters.
Democrats, like hildabeast, and her husband before her can engage in hyperbole, or outright lies, flaunt the law etc. and it goes unchallenged or is minimized by the left-leaning media and academia ... combined with the fact that the democrat base is the undereducated , the non-productive, and/or more easliy swayed (young voters, the elderly etc.)
Donald is taking pages out of the democrat script... and energizing a new set of voters. Voters that sat out the last election because they saw two bad choices. Voters that don't give a fuck....that are pissed off with the establishment, and if they can't get what they want, then they want someone who will start burning shit so that maybe we can someday get to "different" and hopefully "better".
I would be worried if I were the democrats. Hillary will continue to be dogged by scandal. And while you won't pull the under-educated or the free-loaders, she will lose SOME of the principled OR those that are concerned for the real security of our country and our national interests after 8yrs of democrats in the Executive branch.
I think the majority of America wants Change. Hitlery is NOT a change candidate.
I'm one of those people that wants to see things burn. I am angry about a lot of things and I don't give a fuck. And I believe that he can bring the most "new" voters to pull the "R" lever on gameday. So right now I'm leaning towards Trump. If I can't get what I want then hopefully I'll see a little bit of "different".
DIYPatriot
12-10-2015, 11:07
I'm one of those people that wants to see things burn. I am angry about a lot of things and I don't give a fuck. And I believe that he can bring the most "new" voters to pull the "R" lever on gameday. So right now I'm leaning towards Trump. If I can't get what I want then hopefully I'll see a little bit of "different".
My wife and I are right on par with your sentiments. And I bring her into the mix b/c several of her female friends are right in line with that way of thinking. Some of them have been left leaning (which is why they're her friends and not mine) for as long as I've known them. It's interesting to see them getting fed up with the BS. My fear is that if Trump doesn't get the GOP stamp of approval will he go independent and split the vote, thus handing the election to Clinton on a Ross Perot platter? I sure hope not.
Whatever SC says goes, and he's up 8 points out there.
The left and the rinos can't find anybody to beat him.
Islam has destroyed Europe, hands down. It destroys everything it touches. America doesn't need to be next. I would deny anyone but those with higher education from a recognized university. No women, and no families. Enough is enough. If you had a hand full of M&M's and one of them was poisonous and would kill you, wouldn't you throw out all of them?
Islam has destroyed Europe, hands down. It destroys everything it touches. America doesn't need to be next. I would deny anyone but those with higher education from a recognized university. No women, and no families. Enough is enough. If you had a hand full of M&M's and one of them was poisonous and would kill you, wouldn't you throw out all of them?
Agree.
Trump's statement should have contained qualifiers, IMO.
It would be grand if we elected a President with some stones who put the USA as their No. 1 Priority....but Trump may have his hands full with the RNC as they would rather sink Trump than tighten immigration and fight JiHad.
If the establishment sinks Trump with dirty play I for one will sit out the election and watch the RNC, Fat Boy Rove and Jeb the Dildo self immolate. Phuk'm.
Republican officials and leading figures in the party’s establishment are preparing for the possibility of a brokered convention as businessman Donald Trump continues to sit atop the polls in the GOP presidential race.
More than 20 of them convened Monday near the Capitol for a dinner held by Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus, and the prospect of Trump nearing next year’s nominating convention in Cleveland with a significant number of delegates dominated the discussion, according to five people familiar with the meeting.
Weighing in on that scenario as Priebus and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) listened, several longtime Republican power brokers argued that if the controversial billionaire storms through the primaries, the party’s establishment must lay the groundwork for a floor fight in which the GOP’s mainstream wing could coalesce around an alternative, the people said.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/gop-preparing-for-contested-convention/2015/12/10/d72574bc-9f73-11e5-8728-1af6af208198_story.html
Trump will definately run as an independent if the Repub establishment try and screw him over. IMO.
"Republican Establishment" = people as corrupt as their opposite numbers on the other side of the aisle.
at the end of the day, the nation really does deserve the outcome of the coming general election...
and doomsday preppers used to seem like such a stupid TV show
at the end of the day, the nation really does deserve the outcome of the coming general election...
and doomsday preppers used to seem like such a stupid TV show
There is so much truth in that statement. It was true when Hussain won the first election, then we did it again. If we as a country vote to continue down the same path then we really need to start thinking about letting ourselves be annexed by Canada or Mexico because we might just be too stupid to deserve our own country anymore.
Until something changes drastically, it is not likely to get any better.
Thus far Trump is the only candidate that 'appears' to be on that bandwidth and seems the best chance of breaking the established norms. But there is no guarantee he is no just blowing smoke.
Close your eyes and roll the dice.
mark46th
12-10-2015, 22:46
The thing that scares the press, the demo and the republicans is that no one owns Trump and he is well on his way to destroying political correctness. PC is what the press uses to destroy people. Trump looks at reporters, says, F--- You !! and continues on...
Until something changes drastically, it is not likely to get any better.
Thus far Trump is the only candidate that 'appears' to be on that bandwidth and seems the best chance of breaking the established norms. But there is no guarantee he is no just blowing smoke.
Close your eyes and roll the dice.
I might be a dreamer,, but I see The Donald using the same criteria and drive he used on The Apprentice, IF he gets to the WH.
He selects people that get the job done.
His technique is a model of management delegation, not seen in many politicians.
Most elected have an ego that mandates ME ME ME. berry is an extreme example. My way or the hi-way.
The Donald certainly has the ego, but he stays on top via his selectively built and groomed underlings.
I am more impressed by he management style than his rhetoric..
His rhetoric has the left and right scurrying around in catch-up mode. Sounds like a good plan..
:munchin
The entire election process has become a cash cow for the establishment, they take in billions of donation dollars and distribute it amongst themselves.....much in the same way many non-profits abuse the system.
It would appear that Trump, in spending only 300k has put the hurt on the Election Industry and its socialital leeches.
Another positive for Trump.
Golf1echo
12-11-2015, 08:22
I am so tired of a meritless immigration system, seeing social services directed to newly arrived illegal aliens at the expense of seniors, veterans, and other Americans who have contributed through out their lives. Jobs taken by those that either live in the black market or will return to their country...outside a work permit program, having to contend with foreigners with no intentions to assimilate or others that want to push their agenda, Jihad, etc... If America is a sponge, it's time to ring it out! I'm not clear how Trumps management experience would translate to governing or if he has the ability to listen to advisers....those are concerns I have. I like his message on immigration and his ability to repulse what has become the Tabloids...who's messaging is down right treasonous at times.
The government should belong to us and we will know that when they start working for Americans and the country. The things that made this country great were built not given...
Rant over
It would be grand if we elected a President with some stones who put the USA as their No. 1 Priority....but Trump may have his hands full with the RNC as they would rather sink Trump than tighten immigration and fight JiHad.
If the establishment sinks Trump with dirty play I for one will sit out the election and watch the RNC, Fat Boy Rove and Jeb the Dildo self immolate. Phuk'm.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/gop-preparing-for-contested-convention/2015/12/10/d72574bc-9f73-11e5-8728-1af6af208198_story.html
Ditto!
This guy speaks for voters galore.
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/12/11/larry-kudlow-ive-changed-this-is-war-seal-the-borders-stop-the-visas/
A hardline shift from an immigration reformer.
I know this is not my usual position. But this is a war. Therefore I have come to believe there should be no immigration or visa waivers until the U.S. adopts a completely new system to stop radical Islamic terrorists from entering the country. A wartime lockdown. And a big change in my thinking.
ISIS and related Islamic terrorists are already here. More are coming. We must stop them.
Until FBI director James Comey gives us the green light, I say seal the borders.
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atticus finch
12-12-2015, 16:11
I haven't made up my mind on Trump's "no muslim" outburst, yet; haven't really had time to study it.
Something doesn't ring right, though...
It seems legit, deportation? Eisenhower deported millions of illegals. A moratorium on immigration? We had an entire moratorium on all immigration for, if memory serves me correctly, a 40 year period from I think the 1920's through the 60's. Partly due to allow the prior original influx to assimiliate. However a part of that moratorium was to deny possible subversives entry into the country.
ddoering
12-12-2015, 17:47
Hey, the Donald has a phone and a pen.:lifter