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Team Sergeant
12-05-2015, 08:21
This is why I hate muslims, islam and allah. This is how muslims think and they will never stop attacking the West. Remember it's not hate speech if a muslim says it.
CAIR Director: U.S. ‘Partially to Blame’ for San Bernardino Jihad
by Jordan Schachtel4 Dec 2015
The United States is “partially” responsible for a jihadi massacre on Wednesday in San Bernardino, California, carried out by Islamic State loyalists who killed 14 and wounding dozens more, Hussam Ayloush, the Los Angeles Director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), said Friday.
“Let’s not forget that some of our own foreign policy, as Americans, as the West, have fueled that extremism,” Ayloush said on CNN’s New Day.
cont:
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/12/04/cair-director-u-s-partially-blame-san-bernardino-jihad/
GratefulCitizen
12-05-2015, 08:44
"Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute."
Foreign policy for pirates.
Golf1echo
12-05-2015, 09:22
When you call whats going on in this country what it is, an insurgency and you identify it's players and sympathizers things come into focus. CAIR is just one small piece of many.
:rolleyes: I blame all children for juvenile onset diabetes as well. :rolleyes:
“Let’s not forget that some of our own foreign policy, as Americans, as the West, have fueled that extremism,”
That is the same meme Obama and John Kerry parrot.......make me wonder who is pulling their string :rolleyes:
It seems that the left is setting this country up with a situation that will almost guarantee that the United States, eventually, goes into the history books (that the left writes) as a nation that carried out a holocaust.
Pat
blacksmoke
12-05-2015, 11:01
I want to insert a sarcastic comment, but really I'm worried about my children's future. It took 3 days for the big news channels to say the jihad in SB Ca. was terrorism (or even that it might be), and CNN still has the story from Thursday saying we are safe from an ISIS attack. Won't somebody (other than me) please think about the children! :confused:
Old Dog New Trick
12-05-2015, 11:19
I'm just thinking I should have bought more ammo last week when they were having big Black Friday sales. (wait is saying Black Friday racist?)
Team Sergeant
12-05-2015, 11:25
(wait is saying Black Friday racist?)
You know it is!!!! I read just last week a child was suspended for a week for using those same words. (I think he went to the same school as bomb-boy Ahmed Mohamed.) :munchin
I think I'll start a few classes on cell phone timers. Just the timers, no bombs, no explosives, no initiators. I figure I'll have hundreds of muslims attending my "clock-making" classes.....:munchin
Beheading 101 is next.
Old Dog New Trick
12-05-2015, 11:42
Beheading 101 is next.
Followed by: Pipe Threading 100 and Electrical Wiring 99.
I think you are on to something. We could even say the classes are taught by Verified Green Berets. Just provide name, address, residency or proof of immigrant status and income sources. Also provide a complete list of associates, family, friends and organizations you are a member of.
Followed by: Pipe Threading 100 and Electrical Wiring 99.
I think you are on to something. We could even say the classes are taught by Verified Green Berets. Just provide name, address, residency or proof of immigrant status and income sources. Also provide a complete list of associates, family, friends and organizations you are a member of.
Great idea, but I'd change one thing ....
Instead of "Verified Green Berets", change that to "Former SEAL, Delta Force, Ranger Operators" ... That last word (Operator) is the key.
You don't want to scare people off with "Verified Green Berets", but put the word "Operator" behind any title ... you'll have 'em knocking yer door down to get in. :D
Team Sergeant
12-05-2015, 11:55
Followed by: Pipe Threading 100 and Electrical Wiring 99.
I think you are on to something. We could even say the classes are taught by Verified Green Berets. Just provide name, address, residency or proof of immigrant status and income sources. Also provide a complete list of associates, family, friends and organizations you are a member of.
Followed by Covert Shopping 101 "Picking up your bomb making kit made easy!"
Advanced Getaway Driving "Don't let that hijab slow you down!"
Committing Mass Murder: "Locating Gun-Free Zones in your neighborhood!"
I think most of these are already being taught at Yale, same classroom as the guy teaching "Advanced Looting" (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/10/08/black-lives-leader-defends-looting-in-yale-lecture/)
Advanced Getaway Driving "Don't let that hijab slow you down!"
lol
You guys are crackin' me up, today. That's the second belly laugh I've had since coffee.
Divemaster
12-05-2015, 13:24
This is why I hate muslims, islam and allah. This is how muslims think and they will never stop attacking the West. Remember it's not hate speech if a muslim says it.
CAIR Director: U.S. ‘Partially to Blame’ for San Bernardino Jihad
by Jordan Schachtel4 Dec 2015
The United States is “partially” responsible for a jihadi massacre on Wednesday in San Bernardino, California, carried out by Islamic State loyalists who killed 14 and wounding dozens more, Hussam Ayloush, the Los Angeles Director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), said Friday.
“Let’s not forget that some of our own foreign policy, as Americans, as the West, have fueled that extremism,” Ayloush said on CNN’s New Day.
cont:
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/12/04/cair-director-u-s-partially-blame-san-bernardino-jihad/
Reminds me of the time I was working in an embassy running down the target rich Islamic charity-terrorism connection. :munchin
This is why I hate muslims, islam and allah. This is how muslims think and they will never stop attacking the West. Remember it's not hate speech if a muslim says it.
CAIR Director: U.S. ‘Partially to Blame’ for San Bernardino Jihad
by Jordan Schachtel4 Dec 2015
The United States is “partially” responsible for a jihadi massacre on Wednesday in San Bernardino, California, carried out by Islamic State loyalists who killed 14 and wounding dozens more, Hussam Ayloush, the Los Angeles Director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), said Friday.
“Let’s not forget that some of our own foreign policy, as Americans, as the West, have fueled that extremism,” Ayloush said on CNN’s New Day.
cont:
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/12/04/cair-director-u-s-partially-blame-san-bernardino-jihad/
CAIR can stuff it.
A foreign national MUSLIM was welcomed to our country and yet she and her American born MUSLIM husband reportedly making > $70k/year (so much for the jobs program idea) took the lives of at least 14 innocent Americans - not unlike the Tsarnev MUSLIM terrorists who were welcomed here.
A foreign MUSLIM and an American born MUSLIM use firearms ILLEGALLY against innocent Americans and our president suggests that we might further limit AMERICAN 2A rights?????
The president suggest that despite the masks, vests, IEDs, the MUSLIM pledge to ISIS and enough pre-planning to stock up on ammo and rent an SUV...this might just be another case of spontaneous "workplace violence."
CAIR says it's our fault?
Baghdad Bob would be proud.
With his attitude the French would have picked him up long ago. He uses the term we and American a lot, I really do not wish to have someone like him calling himself an American. It is he and his ilk that are the problem.
If you notice most of the terrorists in the last 50 years (che, Osama, jackel) come from privileged families yet they yell about capitalism and suppression of the poor. Any studies ever done on this?
They do seem to suck up totalitarian ideology don't they?
The United States is “partially” responsible for a jihadi massacre on Wednesday in San Bernardino, California, carried out by Islamic State loyalists who killed 14 and wounding dozens more, Hussam Ayloush, the Los Angeles Director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), said Friday.
“Let’s not forget that some of our own foreign policy, as Americans, as the West, have fueled that extremism,” Ayloush said on CNN’s New Day.
I think CAIR is half right. American foreign policy under Obama probably has fueled extremism and probably is partially responsible for the attack on San Bernardino, but not because the U.S. has been too tough on Muslim terrorists. It's because we've been too weak.
Muslim terrorists didn't attack in France because France was so tough on terrorists. It was the opposite. IMO, this looks like the start of the same thing here.
Just another group of people that don't want to accept personal responsibility for the fact they act like clowns and try to impose their wills on those that don't want it -- and if they don't accept it...they kill you.
Yeah...it's our fault!
I think CAIR is half right. American foreign policy under Obama probably has fueled extremism and probably is partially responsible for the attack on San Bernardino, but not because the U.S. has been too tough on Muslim terrorists. It's because we've been too weak.
Good stuff.
Won't get better if the AG gets her policy put into play.
Look at trannys, etc. Rarely were a bother until it was illegal to chide 'em.
Now, they're litrally* everywhere.
*Pronounced with UK accent.
Old Dog New Trick
12-06-2015, 09:15
If you notice most of the terrorists in the last 50 years (che, Osama, jackel) come from privileged families yet they yell about capitalism and suppression of the poor. Any studies ever done on this?
Yes, studies have been done. I'm lazy and don't want to search for them but IIRC the vast majority of terrorists other than suicide vest wearing losers are from educated backgrounds and families with the means to provide just about anything. Much like the 'anarchists' in America and Europe they come from affluent families and generally have at least attended college or higher education.
The problem isn't "jobs" or the family identity, the problem is misguided ideology fostered by extremists with extreme levels of education and work experience. They are the the controllers of deception and subversion of the followers.
Our methods of fighting an 'ideological misrepresentation of humanity' are flawed. And have only increased and encouraged more followers.
We have to stop "feeding the beast" because it's a no win situation to do so. Careful and exacting precision to kill, dismantle or dissuade others from joining is the only solution.
The only 'media' coverage of terrorism should be what we did, not what they did. And that would be better executed through law enforcement and limited military action where the risk of investigative procedures would result in failure.
We should be able to find anyone in the world, yet, many of the 'leaders' are still breathing or free to communicate their hatred.
As ODNT suggests above, there are plenty of studies out there contemplating the root cause of terrorism. Because others may be interested in short readings on the subject I've copied a few links below. I don't vouch for the authors or the conclusions but merely share the information.
The CIA library might be a good start. Another link or two with some additional observations are shown below. The motivators creating a terrorist are both simple and complex.
But, think about it in common sense terms...many of these folks are ideologues who are educated and in fact have access to money. They are not, by their actions, merely seeking more money...they are seeking change, power, a voice, belonging, a cause, status, etc., etc., like most things in this world, it is complicated.
https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/csi-publications/csi-studies/studies/Vol49no2/Terror_Networks_Book_Review_9.htm
Understanding Terror Networks
Intelligence in Recent Public Literature
By Marc Sageman. Philadelphia: University of Pennsylvania Press, 2004. 220 pages.
Reviewed by Dwight P. Pinkley
Just a couple of additional links below - there are many more.
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/Articles/Terrorism%20-%20Root%20Causes%20-%20Levi.htm
http://cambridgeglobalist.org/2014/10/19/education-wealth-fails-demystifying-causes-terrorism/
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/12/06/migrants-video-paris-attacks-good-2025-off-france-will-become-muslim/
When asked on camera whether it is good to kill French people for Allah, Muslim migrants seeking asylum in Italy answered affirmatively, remarking that it is “good” to kill French people, and warning of a looming December 8 Islamist attack on Rome.
In a disturbing new video produced by the Italian television program “L’aria che tira” (“What’s Trending”), presenters asked some asylum seekers and other migrants what they thought about the November 13 Paris attacks
Snip
Remember what CAIR is:
The FBI is severing its once-close ties with the nation's largest Muslim advocacy group, the Council on American-Islamic Relations, amid mounting evidence that it has links to a support network for Hamas.
All local chapters of CAIR have been shunned in the wake of a 15-year FBI investigation that culminated with the conviction in December of Hamas fundraisers at a trial where CAIR itself was listed as an unindicted co-conspirator.
The U.S. government has designated Hamas as a terrorist organization.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/01/30/fbi-cuts-ties-cair-following-terror-financing-trial/
Pat
Badger52
12-06-2015, 10:45
Just another group of people that don't want to accept personal responsibility for the fact they act like clowns and try to impose their wills on those that don't want it...
Hollyweird, Soros et al, and their statist political tools. Lots of these around.
-- and if they don't accept it...they kill you.
The distinction of the terrorists under discussion.
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/12/06/migrants-video-paris-attacks-good-2025-off-france-will-become-muslim/
When asked on camera whether it is good to kill French people for Allah, Muslim migrants seeking asylum in Italy answered affirmatively, remarking that it is “good” to kill French people, and warning of a looming December 8 Islamist attack on Rome.
In a disturbing new video produced by the Italian television program “L’aria che tira” (“What’s Trending”), presenters asked some asylum seekers and other migrants what they thought about the November 13 Paris attacks
Snip
Good stuff as usual Dusty. The candid comments, the boldness of statements should IMO not be ignored.
For every person interviewed that was willing to go on camera and state their views on the topic how many others were/are "camera shy" but even more devout...or even more action oriented???
The quote below might be of some help in understanding what we are up against.
"The evidence suggests that terrorists care about influencing political outcomes. They are often motivated by geopolitical grievances. To understand who joins terrorist organizations, instead of asking who has a low salary and few opportunities, we should ask: Who holds strong political views and is confident enough to try to impose an extremist vision by violent means? Most terrorists are not so desperately poor that they have nothing to live for. Instead, they are people who care so fervently about a cause that they are willing to die for it."
Alan Krueger is the Bendheim Professor of Economics and Public Policy at Princeton and has been an adviser to the National Counterterrorism Center. This article is adapted from his new book, “What Makes a Terrorist: Economics and the Roots of Terrorism,” which is based on the Lionel Robbins Memorial Lectures he gave at the London School of Economics in 2006. Copyright © 2007 by Princeton University Press. All rights reserved.
When I went through the Civil Affairs MOSQ years ago we were still under SOC command in the reserves. We had FID/UW training and to make it as simple as I can for this post what causes a problem is either real or perceived oppression for some reason ie economic, religious etc. What it did not address was why rich privileged top of the tier people in a society such as Che etc seem to get involved. Please forgive the simplistic statement of a complex problem but the FID/UW training I had through the JFKSWCS never really address it at that level. The training was very good and relevant to my mission and the level I was working ie ground/village level.
Yup, no doubt great training.
The mixture of grievances - real or perceived - religious and/or political zealotry - economics - and the real or perceived oppression of civil liberties can be a lethal cocktail that influences an otherwise educated and reasonably well-to-do or even wealthy individual to take up arms for a cause.
Add the accelerant of social media and this is one complicated mess we find ourselves in.
With piss-poor PC dominated political leadership like we have at the moment...it is even more difficult.
Badger52
12-06-2015, 12:48
Add the accelerant of social media and this is one complicated mess we find ourselves in.After their PR-debacle on the Obama Care rollout, we can see now where the DoD cuts are going to go.
The WH is all over this social media thing with their Director of Digital Rapid Response in the Office of Digital Strategy (https://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/author/tanya-somanader). (For them, not having the masses typically able to follow every little Twit & Turn is likely viewed as a positive.)
After their PR-debacle on the Obama Care rollout, we can see now where the DoD cuts are going to go.
The WH is all over this social media thing with their Director of Digital Rapid Response in the Office of Digital Strategy (https://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/author/tanya-somanader). (For them, not having the masses typically able to follow every little Twit & Turn is likely viewed as a positive.)
Badger, I had never viewed that page - thank you for posting.
The importance of a rapid delivery of messaging is not lost on this WH.
The freedom of the Internet does however provide some measure of equal opportunity...albeit without the bully pulpit of the WH.
Interesting story line if true - wonder how much play this will get in Obama's address to the nation this evening.
MODERATE MUSLIM DAD TO SAN BERNARDINO TERRORIST: SOON ALL THE JEWS WILL BE DEAD
Farook confirmed that his son spoke of the Islamic State
Frontpage December 6, 2015 Daniel Greenfield
Remember how Syed Farook, the male half of the San Bernardino Jihadists, was from a "moderate" family. This is how moderate the family was.
The senior Farook, in an interview with Italian newspaper La Stampa, described his son as "an angel. Good, obedient studious. Maybe a little too shy, conservative and firmly against Israel."
Everything a proud Muslim father could want...
<snip>
http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/261038/moderate-muslim-dad-san-bernardino-terrorist-soon-daniel-greenfield
Badger52
12-06-2015, 20:49
It looks as if Merkel's Deputy has pointed out the "emperor's nakedness" (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/12035838/German-vice-chancellor-accuses-Saudi-Arabia-of-funding-Islamic-extremism-in-the-West.html) in actual words that got printed & everything. :eek:
The German vice-chancellor has publicly accused Saudi Arabia of financing Islamic extremism in the West and warned that it must stop.
Sigmar Gabriel said that the Saudi regime is funding extremist mosques and communities that pose a danger to public security.
“We have to make clear to the Saudis that the time of looking away is over,” Mr Gabriel told Bild am Sonntag newspaper in an interview.
“Wahhabi mosques all over the world are financed by Saudi Arabia. Many Islamists who are a threat to public safety come from these communities in Germany.”
The allegation that Saudi Arabia has funded mosques with links to Islamist terrorism in the West is not new. But it is highly unusual for a Western leader to speak out so directly against the West’s key Arab ally.
Well.... pour me another cup of coffee. That & the French socialists getting their asses kicked (again) in the latest pre-lim elections is worth celebrating.
Team Sergeant
12-07-2015, 08:15
MODERATE MUSLIM DAD TO SAN BERNARDINO TERRORIST: SOON ALL THE JEWS WILL BE DEAD
So let's entertain this statement for just a second.
All the Jews are dead. Now what? Does the Western world think the islamic people will stop their thousands year war on the West?
I'm sure the low IQ voters think so.
I think this one takes the cake for the lowest of the low. It is an article in the NY Daily News entitled, "Stasi: San Bernardino killers were radical, ISIS-loving monsters — but one of their victims was just as bigoted", by some scag by the name of Linda Stasi. Yep, Stasi, as in E. German secret police back in the bad ol' days.
Here is the link:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/san-bernardino-bloodbath-born-bigots-article-1.2456491
(Note to Team Sergeant: Wish you had a middle finger icon for this particular b***h.)
FlagDayNCO
12-08-2015, 15:25
Remember people, the Feds want the population to believe Islam is just a religion and the Mosque is just a house of worship.
Islam is a form of government, in that it dictates how people should be controlled and live under Islam. It sets rules about financial investment, use of currency/banking, commercial conduct.
Everyone should know that the Mosque is a base of operations; their sanctuary, their place to store arms and munitions, their place to plan, their place to teach their followers.
Almost all of the attcks on US soil have links to a Mosque close by.
From the liberal NY Post earlier this year:
http://nypost.com/2015/07/26/the-us-mosque-link-between-islamic-attacks-that-authorities-are-ignoring/
Almost appears as if the enemy is here, conducting an insurgency, with the cooperation of our leadership. Ya think???
blacksmoke
12-08-2015, 21:52
MODERATE MUSLIM DAD TO SAN BERNARDINO TERRORIST: SOON ALL THE JEWS WILL BE DEAD
I'm sure the low IQ voters think so.
You keep using this term, "low IQ voters" TS but you are wrong. These people aren't low IQ just because they vote for political causes popular with mainstream media and the Democrats. Many of these people are also intelligent, educated individuals from a wide range of backgrounds. The premise these folks are acting on isn't low IQ, they are practicing SELF DECEPTION! Self deception is much worse! Even a stupid person could see not to vote to surround themselves an army with hostile intentions. They know what the Koran really says, they are choosing to ignore that.
You called me wrong on my forums? Brilliant..... TS
Team Sergeant
12-09-2015, 09:21
You keep using this term, "low IQ voters" TS but you are wrong. These people aren't low IQ just because they vote for political causes popular with mainstream media and the Democrats. Many of these people are also intelligent, educated individuals from a wide range of backgrounds. The premise these folks are acting on isn't low IQ, they are practicing SELF DECEPTION! Self deception is much worse! Even a stupid person could see not to vote to surround themselves an army with hostile intentions. They know what the Koran really says, they are choosing to ignore that.
You called me wrong on my forums? Brilliant..... TS
You were saying???? :munchin
You were saying???? :munchin
I saw what you done there! Now that's some funny shit. :eek:
LOLOL
I'm woke up, now!:D
blacksmoke
12-09-2015, 20:19
LOL dabnabit!!! :mad: I was right though!:D Ok seriously, how long is this going to last??
Team Sergeant
12-10-2015, 11:31
LOL dabnabit!!! :mad: I was right though!:D Ok seriously, how long is this going to last??
How much money do you have? :munchin
How much money do you have? :munchin
Every time I see that, I spew cocoa all over my hoodiefootie.
I think this one takes the cake for the lowest of the low. It is an article in the NY Daily News entitled, "Stasi: San Bernardino killers were radical, ISIS-loving monsters — but one of their victims was just as bigoted", by some scag by the name of Linda Stasi. Yep, Stasi, as in E. German secret police back in the bad ol' days.
Here is the link:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/san-bernardino-bloodbath-born-bigots-article-1.2456491
(Note to Team Sergeant: Wish you had a middle finger icon for this particular b***h.)
Doobey
Stasi is a rather common Italian/Italian American surname...I went to school with 4 or 5 kids with that last name...dated one in high school.
blacksmoke
12-10-2015, 15:31
Not much... Probably not enough.:( But I will make a donation somewhere.
Not much... Probably not enough.:( But I will make a donation somewhere.
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/12/10/dhs-whistleblower-investigation-that-would-have-flagged-ca-attackers-shut-down-due-to-profiling-fears/
On Thursday’s broadcast of the Fox News Channel’s “Kelly File,” former DHS employee Philip Haney said work he was doing that would have “put the red light on” the San Bernardino attackers was shut down due to fears of profiling.
Haney said that as a result of work he was doing, “would have put the red light on them. Therefore, two things very plausibly would have happened. Either Syed would have been put on the No-Fly List, because of association with that mosque, and/or the K-1 visa that his wife was given may have been denied because of his affiliation with a known organization.”
Haney added that his investigation was shut down because “we were not allowed to develop a case, based on…any Islamic group.”
Haney added that his investigation was shut down because “we were not allowed to develop a case, based on…any Islamic group.”
...and somehow Donald Trump is the anti-Christ with a bad comb-over
A storm is a-brewin' folks and I hope your families have shelter
Golf1echo
12-11-2015, 08:33
State Department, DOJ, DHS, POTUS doing what they do for our protection.
. “The administration was more concerned about the civil rights and liberties of foreign Islamic groups with terrorist ties than the safety and security of Americans,”
Another article: http://thefederalist.com/2015/12/10/dhs-state-halted-investigation-into-islamist-group-linked-to-san-bernardino-terrorists/
Interesting!
http://www.upworthy.com/american-muslims-trump-hate-with-love-raising-173k-for-san-bernardino-victims-in-6-days?c=ufb1
Interesting!
http://www.upworthy.com/american-muslims-trump-hate-with-love-raising-173k-for-san-bernardino-victims-in-6-days?c=ufb1
That's cool! You'd think there'd be more press coverage...
miclo18d
12-12-2015, 09:05
Interesting!
http://www.upworthy.com/american-muslims-trump-hate-with-love-raising-173k-for-san-bernardino-victims-in-6-days?c=ufb1
I see your "interesting" and raise you a "taqqiya"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3349803/Muslim-convert-faces-jail-threatening-bomb-MP-s-house.html
I see your "interesting" and raise you a "taqqiya"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3349803/Muslim-convert-faces-jail-threatening-bomb-MP-s-house.html
Wouldn't it be weird if muslims had somehow got a taqqiya operator into the cat bird seat in DC? Wow, what a novel that would make.
I see your "interesting" and raise you a "taqqiya"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3349803/Muslim-convert-faces-jail-threatening-bomb-MP-s-house.html
Brings back fond memories of Giuliani's ten million dollar little confetti toss in the face of the Saudi prince in 2001. :D (OK, maybe I'm not remembering it exactly right. ;))
Pat
Golf1echo
12-12-2015, 10:57
I don't mean to be skeptical however.....it is important how a charity actually uses the funds " we may even be able to assist families with longer-term expenses or possibly donate to the regional center where the shooting took place. " Does this mean the Multiple CAIR centers and other organizations listed prolifically on the fund raising site, who actually contributed, Lot of national exposure for that amount....not particularly a successful return for that exposure.
Here is the fund raising page: https://www.launchgood.com/project/muslims_united_for_san_bernardino
That having been said kudos to those that gave from the heart.....I am just perplexed why more peaceful Muslims do not speak out against terrorism and violence perpetrated by other Muslims. Their message of a united stance against the above would speak volumes to me.
Are you not aware that the shootings occurred at the Inland Regional Center in San Bernardino?
http://inlandrc.org/about-us/
I don't mean to be skeptical however.....it is important how a charity actually uses the funds " we may even be able to assist families with longer-term expenses or possibly donate to the regional center where the shooting took place. " Does this mean the Multiple CAIR centers and other organizations listed prolifically on the fund raising site, who actually contributed, Lot of national exposure for that amount....not particularly a successful return for that exposure.
Here is the fund raising page: https://www.launchgood.com/project/muslims_united_for_san_bernardino
That having been said kudos to those that gave from the heart.....I am just perplexed why more peaceful Muslims do not speak out against terrorism and violence perpetrated by other Muslims. Their message of a united stance against the above would speak volumes to me.
Hummmm What if they had provided the funds for the shooters and now are countering the bad PR with this overt funding? All those idiots and PC people would gobble it up and it would be a Win Win for the enemy.
Just a thought....:munchin
Golf1echo
12-12-2015, 11:38
If that is to me, Yes Sir, I watched it minute by minute as it was covered on the National Networks. I certainly don't take away from any campaign to help the victims and family members of the wounded, the deceased, and the First Responders. My point is an observation of the fund raising efforts where less than 2000 folks to date have contributed after the effort was exposed nationally, as listed on their site, multiple times by many different sources. Re: my last...
That having been said kudos to those that gave from the heart.....I am just perplexed why more peaceful Muslims do not speak out against terrorism and violence perpetrated by other Muslims. Their message of a united stance against the above would speak volumes to me.
Is it really any different with Christains Jews, or Hindus? I think not!